Wednesday, 2020-08-12

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flwang1strigazi: brtknr: meeting?09:00
brtknrflwang1: morning!09:00
brtknryes :)09:00
brtknrhow are you stranger?09:00
brtknrlong time09:00
brtknrbtw the topic on this channel has been roll call for 3 weeks :P09:01
jakeyip:)09:01
jakeyiphi all09:01
flwang1:(09:02
flwang1#endmeeting09:02
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Containers Team | Meeting: every Wednesday @ 9AM UTC | Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-weekly-meeting"09:02
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flwang1brtknr: sorry about that :(09:02
flwang1i was busy for house moving09:02
brtknrhehe no worries09:02
brtknrmornig jakeyip09:03
flwang1#startmeeting magnum09:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 12 09:03:52 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flwang1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'magnum'09:03
flwang1i only have one thing to bring to you guys  attention09:04
flwang1but i'd like to allow you guys talk first09:04
flwang1brtknr: anything from your side?09:04
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brtknrwell there's a bunch of open reviews which would be good to deal with:  https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/magnum+status:open09:06
flwang1brtknr: sure, i will start to review them soon09:08
flwang1just had a quick look, most of them are small changes09:08
brtknratm, k8s-atomic is broken on master without this patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745359/09:08
brtknrthats about it really09:09
brtknrwhat do you need to talk about?09:09
flwang1brtknr: is the failure of magnum-tempest-plugin-tests-api related?09:10
flwang1brtknr: i'd like to propose a patch to support separate CA for etcd and front-proxy09:10
flwang1it's a security risk09:10
brtknrflwang1: no magnum-tempest-plugin-tests-api only deploys coreos09:11
brtknrflwang1: no magnum-tempest-plugin-tests-api only deploys fedora-coreos09:12
brtknrflwang1: ok how is it a security risk?09:12
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flwang1now we're sharing the same ca cert for kubelet, etcd and front-proxy09:13
flwang1which means user can use the ca cert in any node to access etcd09:13
brtknrbut a user that has access to a node also has access to any cert09:14
flwang1we're talking about the case that the node is hacked09:17
flwang1it's a typical best practice by any k8s install tool or managed services09:18
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flwang1i can't find the link on k8s doc, i will show you later09:21
brtknrflwang1:09:22
brtknri guess it makes sense from the POV of separating CA for kubelet and etcd09:22
brtknrsince etcd  is usually running on master09:22
brtknrand normal workload only runs on minions09:22
flwang1yes, it's09:23
flwang1brtknr: did you get a chance to revisit the ca rotate patch?09:24
jakeyipI'd like to know more about this too, can share the doc here if you don't mind?09:24
flwang1jakeyip: which one?09:25
jakeyipsecurity best practice of separating certs09:25
flwang1https://github.com/kubernetes/kubeadm/issues/71009:26
flwang1https://kubernetes.io/docs/reference/setup-tools/kubeadm/implementation-details/09:26
flwang1jakeyip: does that make sense?09:30
flwang1it's actually quite straighforward to implement09:30
flwang1we may need a db schema change to add extra fields09:31
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jakeyipI don't think I'm knowledgable enough to give comments09:34
jakeyipstupid question - do the minions not need to contact etcd to report in their status?09:34
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flwang1minions only talk to api server09:38
jakeyipok I will need to read up more09:42
jakeyipwhat is this etcd used for?09:43
jakeyipanyway I've got a question if no one is discussing anything else?09:44
brtknrre09:46
brtknrsure09:46
jakeyipanyone uses istio? any idea if deploying a service mesh with magnum is a good idea?09:47
brtknrflwang1: thanks for reminding me about CA rotate patch, I will take a look at it when I have some free time next week, busy all week this week on a scheduled piece of work Im afraid09:47
flwang1brtknr: thanks09:48
flwang1jakeyip: we're not using istio yet09:48
brtknrjakeyip: ive tried istio last year, the older version seemed to work okay, the newer version i had some issues with09:48
flwang1but i'm happy to see if you want to contribute it09:48
jakeyipbrtknr: what kind of issues?09:49
brtknri cant remember, it didnt deploy cleanly09:49
brtknri was just following the docs09:49
jakeyipflwang1: sure. all these are pretty new to us and is just a question from users for now09:49
flwang1anything else?09:54
flwang1i'm going to off now09:55
flwang1#endmeeting09:57
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Containers Team | Meeting: every Wednesday @ 9AM UTC | Agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-weekly-meeting"09:57
openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug 12 09:57:16 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:57
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flwang1thank you, team09:57
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brtknrflwang1: thanks15:29
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