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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The CI system will be offline starting at 11:00 UTC (in just under an hour) for Zuul v3 rollout: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123337.html | 10:07 | |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Due to unrelated emergencies, the Zuul v3 rollout has not started yet; stay tuned for further updates | 13:05 | |
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| zhipeng | #startmeeting openstack-cyborg | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 15:01:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhipeng. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_cyborg' | 15:01 |
| zhipeng | #topic Roll Call | 15:01 |
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| crushil | \o | 15:01 |
| zhipeng | #info howard | 15:01 |
| crushil | #info crushil | 15:01 |
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| zhipeng | anyone else here for our project meeting ? | 15:02 |
| mpaolino | #info Michele Paolino | 15:02 |
| mpaolino | hello Howard! | 15:02 |
| zhipeng | oh hi Michele ! | 15:02 |
| zhipeng | long time no see | 15:02 |
| jkilpatr | monring. | 15:03 |
| mpaolino | yes, busy times on my side, now I'm back | 15:03 |
| jkilpatr | #info jkilpatr | 15:03 |
| Li_ | HI Howard :) | 15:04 |
| zhipeng | Hi :) | 15:04 |
| zhipeng | could you put your info down using the info command ? | 15:04 |
| Li_ | #info Li | 15:04 |
| Li_ | #info Li Liu | 15:05 |
| zhipeng | thx :) | 15:05 |
| zhipeng | helloway you there ? | 15:05 |
| helloway | yeah | 15:06 |
| zhipeng | info plz | 15:06 |
| jkilpatr | wow busy this week. | 15:06 |
| helloway | #info helloway | 15:06 |
| zhipeng | #topic Official Project Application Status Report | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Official Project Application Status Report (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 15:07 | |
| zhipeng | so again, thanks to everyone's hard work | 15:07 |
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| zhipeng | we are now an official project | 15:07 |
| zhipeng | altho nobody has contacted me for the mascot yet :P | 15:08 |
| jkilpatr | cheetah with cyborg parts. I won't stop staying it until it happens ;) | 15:09 |
| zhipeng | let's try to make it happen XD | 15:09 |
| zhipeng | #topic New Core Team member confirmation | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Core Team member confirmation (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 15:09 | |
| crushil | I already have an unofficial mascot that I have been using in my slides | 15:09 |
| zhipeng | crushil do send me the slides :P | 15:10 |
| zhipeng | so I sent out the nomination email for zhuli as new core reviewer one week ago | 15:10 |
| zhipeng | no objection received, so I guess we reach consensus on that | 15:10 |
| jkilpatr | we're adding zhuli as core right? | 15:10 |
| zhipeng | yep | 15:11 |
| zhipeng | i will labor him more :P | 15:11 |
| jkilpatr | someone just put a sticky note that says 'better commit messages' on his monitor and it's all good. | 15:11 |
| zhipeng | hahaha | 15:11 |
| zhipeng | i will do that | 15:11 |
| zhipeng | physically | 15:11 |
| zhipeng | #agreed zhuli will be added as a new core reviewer | 15:12 |
| jkilpatr | do we all need to run that command or just you? | 15:12 |
| zhipeng | that'd just be me | 15:13 |
| zhipeng | if it is vote yall need to run that cmd | 15:13 |
| zhipeng | #topic patch discussion: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/cyborg+status:open | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "patch discussion: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/cyborg+status:open (Meeting topic: openstack-cyborg)" | 15:13 | |
| zhipeng | so we have two major patches | 15:14 |
| zhipeng | and three trolling patches not necessary need discussion | 15:14 |
| zhipeng | (sign of success maybe ?) | 15:14 |
| crushil | Btw zhipeng this is what I have been using | 15:14 |
| crushil | https://imgur.com/gallery/pRdGp | 15:14 |
| jkilpatr | nice. | 15:15 |
| zhipeng | cool | 15:15 |
| zhipeng | first up, spdk spec | 15:15 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/498690 | 15:15 |
| zhipeng | any more questions or we are good to go ? | 15:16 |
| jkilpatr | let me give it one last glance. | 15:16 |
| zhipeng | the floor is yours senator | 15:16 |
| jkilpatr | looks good, but I think we need to focus on drilling down on these specs. we have high level stuff (nova interaction, spdk) but next is spec'ing standard traits/flavors in nova placement. | 15:17 |
| jkilpatr | like format and such. | 15:17 |
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| zhipeng | agree | 15:19 |
| zhipeng | but spdk/dpdk is less of a concern on traits, since they are not directly related to the compute resource | 15:20 |
| jkilpatr | not saying it's a concern for that spec specifically, but in general both of these need follow up specs to flesh out details. | 15:20 |
| crushil | What is the timeline for the implementation of the Cyborg Nova interaction spec? | 15:21 |
| zhipeng | oh definitely | 15:21 |
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| zhipeng | Q-2 if we are fast enough ? | 15:21 |
| jkilpatr | it's just calling existing placement api stuff, hard part is getting the format for the tags we want to use then keeping track of all of them | 15:22 |
| crushil | And don't we need to have a patch in Nova as well? | 15:22 |
| jkilpatr | the live whitelist addition? | 15:22 |
| zhipeng | we agreed in denver that we should experiment with nova extension first | 15:22 |
| zhipeng | to get a sense of what we want to add | 15:23 |
| zhipeng | attach/detach for hotplug to start with | 15:23 |
| zhipeng | then we could have a formal proposal to the nova team | 15:23 |
| Li_ | basically issue virsh attach in libvirt right? | 15:24 |
| zhipeng | this is what we think nova api should be extended and why | 15:24 |
| zhipeng | Li_ that would be the nova part | 15:24 |
| crushil | If we are planning to have a patch in Nova, then we should be conservative as the Nova queue is already overloaded with patches and the review time will be months if not weeks | 15:24 |
| jkilpatr | didn't think of that. | 15:24 |
| jkilpatr | at the same time we don't want to make a nova patch first and then figure out we don't like it's workflow once we write the other code... | 15:25 |
| zhipeng | yes exactly | 15:25 |
| crushil | +1 | 15:25 |
| zhipeng | so what we want to have out of Queens is to function with placement | 15:25 |
| zhipeng | and an unofficial hacky extension of nova | 15:25 |
| zhipeng | to make it e2e working | 15:25 |
| crushil | And have a semblance of a driver so that vendors have something tangible to play with | 15:26 |
| zhipeng | then we could discuss with nova team about the api extension in Rocky | 15:26 |
| zhipeng | yes crushil | 15:26 |
| crushil | We basically want to end the vendor dependence on Nova for accelerators by the end of this release | 15:26 |
| zhipeng | provide a leeway | 15:27 |
| zhipeng | so to speak | 15:27 |
| zhipeng | #link https://review.openstack.org/508572 | 15:27 |
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| zhipeng | btw the conversation so far is about this magnificent beast | 15:27 |
| jkilpatr | lol | 15:27 |
| zhipeng | i will work with zhuli to add more resource provider related info to the spec | 15:30 |
| zhipeng | jkilpatr for the spdk spec if it is ok plz green light it so that helloway could start code implementation | 15:32 |
| jkilpatr | sounds good. I'm not sure we want the placement stuff in the same spec as high level nova cyborg interaction. | 15:32 |
| zhipeng | and #action zhuli and howard will provide additional info on resource provider/trait design for the nova interaction spec | 15:32 |
| jkilpatr | ok +3 | 15:32 |
| zhipeng | jkilpatr let's try and figure out then | 15:33 |
| crushil | +3? | 15:33 |
| jkilpatr | +2 cr +1 wf | 15:33 |
| zhipeng | beast privilege | 15:33 |
| zhipeng | XD | 15:34 |
| zhipeng | #topic AoB | 15:35 |
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| zhipeng | okey any other topics/ideas/what have you | 15:35 |
| jkilpatr | nope, I'll start poking at adding devices to the nova whitelist live, see how hacky I can get away with at first. | 15:36 |
| jkilpatr | if you have placement and crushil has the driver I think that's what's left uncovered? | 15:36 |
| zhipeng | yep | 15:37 |
| jkilpatr | until it comes time to implement all of the placement calls from the conductor/agent then I can switch to that. | 15:37 |
| crushil | Is the Nova team aware of all the Nova-Cyborg interaction? I see that they have commented on the patch | 15:38 |
| crushil | \me doesn't remember | 15:39 |
| zhipeng | yes they are | 15:39 |
| * crushil haven't had my coffee yet | 15:39 | |
| crushil | zhipeng, Cool. I haven't been following the Nova-Cyborg interaction much. Nova team has a lot on their plate. Just making sure they are aware that this is coming their way | 15:41 |
| zhipeng | no problem :) | 15:42 |
| zhipeng | btw how's the driver going crushil ? | 15:42 |
| zhipeng | we will start with GPU ? | 15:42 |
| crushil | It's going. I have been closing on a lot of my downstream work. We are implementing an in house cloud with accelerators embedded in them | 15:43 |
| crushil | We actually demoed to a customer about SPDK integration POC in our lab. They seemed interested in Cyborg | 15:43 |
| zhipeng | ah cool | 15:44 |
| crushil | Btw zhipeng do you know whether you'll be at the Sydney summit? | 15:45 |
| zhipeng | chances are i will not be there :( | 15:45 |
| zhipeng | we've cut a lot of people for sydney attendance | 15:45 |
| zhipeng | budgeting issue | 15:45 |
| zhipeng | i will still try, but not likely | 15:45 |
| zhipeng | I will prepare the slide tho, for our lightening talk | 15:46 |
| crushil | I'm not going either | 15:46 |
| crushil | 2 of my coworkers are | 15:46 |
| crushil | I'm going to make them cover our lightning talk | 15:46 |
| jkilpatr | Sounds like Sydney isn't going to have attendance from the team then :( | 15:47 |
| zhipeng | yep :( | 15:47 |
| jkilpatr | too bad we can't attend via telepresence robots and be real cyborgs :P | 15:49 |
| zhipeng | that would be the goal for S release | 15:49 |
| zhipeng | scare the S out of everybody | 15:50 |
| crushil | haha | 15:51 |
| crushil | I'll make one of my coworkers cover the talk | 15:52 |
| jkilpatr | https://shop.suitabletech.com/products/beam-smart-presence-system?variant=28643990416 | 15:52 |
| jkilpatr | what they make you pay a subscription to use it forever? | 15:52 |
| jkilpatr | great now we need FOSS robots. | 15:53 |
| zhipeng | ok i'm staring the girl in the picture for too long | 15:54 |
| jkilpatr | you're tired, go to sleep. It's what midnight over there? | 15:54 |
| zhipeng | 5 min to midnight | 15:55 |
| zhipeng | okey folks great meeting today | 15:56 |
| zhipeng | i'm gonna close it on time, like any official projects do | 15:56 |
| zhipeng | lol | 15:56 |
| zhipeng | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 15:56:53 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2017/openstack_cyborg.2017-10-11-15.01.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2017/openstack_cyborg.2017-10-11-15.01.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg/2017/openstack_cyborg.2017-10-11-15.01.log.html | 15:56 |
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