Thursday, 2020-01-09

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chenkeWill there be a meeting today?02:21
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chenkeHi03:03
SundarHi chenke03:03
s_shogoHi all03:03
Sundar#startmeeting openstack-cyborg03:03
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan  9 03:03:42 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sundar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.03:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.03:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_cyborg'03:03
SundarHi all03:03
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Sundar#topic Roll call03:04
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wangzhhHi all.03:04
Sundar#info Sundar03:04
chenke#info chenke03:04
chenkehi03:04
wangzhh#info wangzh03:04
wangzhh#info wangzhh03:05
Yumenghi all03:05
Yumeng#info Yumeng03:05
SundarHi Yumeng and all03:05
SundarLet's get started03:05
Sundar#topic Agenda03:05
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Sundarhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CyborgTeamMeeting#Agenda03:05
s_shogo#info s_shogo03:06
SundarDoes anybody want to bring up anything else?03:06
chenkeYe. I want your guys help me review the exception patches.03:06
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SundarSure, chenke. I started on some of them.03:07
Yumengye, we got a lot patches to review03:07
chenkeOk. Thanks sundar.03:07
SundarAgreed, Yumeng. I am still catching up.03:07
YumengI will focus on reviewing too, these days03:08
SundarI just called out a few patches that I think may need some discussion03:08
Sundar#topic Patches03:08
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Sundarhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/699099/03:08
SundarOne comment was: "Can devices in cyborg be associated to specific projects?"03:08
SundarThis is a use case worth discussing here, right?03:09
SundarWhat do you guys think of this use case? Yumeng, chenke, s_shogo, wangzhh03:10
Li_Liu#info Li_Liu03:11
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Yumengsundar: are you thinking Lance Bragstad's question? Can devices in cyborg be associated to specific projects? If so, this check should ensure the user has reader authorization on the project in addition to the 'reader' role, correct?03:11
SundarHi Li, xinranwang: we are discussing a comment in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699099/ i.e. "Can devices in cyborg be associated to specific projects?"03:12
xinranwangHi all, sorry for late03:12
SundarYumeng: yes03:12
xinranwang#info xinranwang03:12
Sundarxinranwang: np03:13
xinranwangI think devices can be shared between different project, what do you guys think?03:13
Li_LiuHi Sundar03:13
chenkeI don't think it is necessary.03:13
chenkeSundar03:14
Yumengagree with Xinran03:14
Li_LiuThe "project" concept here is in the Openstack context right?03:14
wangzhhxinranwang, Agree.03:14
s_shogoxinranwang , +103:15
wangzhhLi_Liu, Yes03:15
SundarBy default, a device can be shared across different projects. The questions seems to be whether there is value in allowing the admin to allocate a set of devices for a specific project.03:15
Li_LiuAgree, since cpu/memory do not associate with project neither03:16
chenkeAgree03:16
chenkeAcceleration resources should be the same as CPU.03:16
xinranwangagree03:16
SundarOk, if we decide not to do this in Ussuri and change our mind later, that is not a problem, AFAICS. I don't see any upgrade issues. Anybody has a different thought?03:17
SundarApparently not. So, let us agree to not have an option of dedicating a device to a project.03:19
Li_Liu:P03:20
SundarI'll take that as a yes :)03:20
SundarNext patch: https://review.opendev.org/670973 Bump openstackdocs theme03:20
SundarThis has been sitting for a while. I am not an expert here. But it seems safe to merge this change. What do you all think?03:21
SundarLi_Liu, Yumeng, chenke, xinranwang, s_shogo, wangzhh: ^03:22
chenkeAgree Merge +1.03:22
SundarOk, chenke, let's both review it and merge it. Thanks.03:23
chenkeOk.03:23
SundarDrawing all your attention to the ML thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-January/011802.html03:24
SundarI haven;t caught up fully, and will respond soon-ish. If you have any thoughts, we can discuss here.03:24
Li_LiuThat seems pretty long.  I will try to read through it as well03:26
SundarSure03:26
Sundar#topic AoB03:26
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chenkehttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-January/011803.html03:26
chenkezhipeng huang had an email reply this.03:26
SundarYes, chenke. But do we all agree with Arkady's idea? Any points not addressed in the email thread so far. BTW, Arkady was at the PTG and raised issues re. firmware updates, which i captured in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cyborg-ussuri-programming-apis03:28
chenkeI haven't read this email carefully. I will learn your response.03:29
SundarIn my understanding, Ironic deals with devices as just PCI devices, but does inspect their properties03:29
SundarA Cyborg driver can do that. I am not sure that an entire Cyborg driver or its equivalent can be included in the Ironic inspection process.03:30
SundarHowever, Arkady brings up issues regarding server lifecycle management, warranties, etc.03:30
xinranwangYes, ironic can only inspect general pci device, but for example, cyborg can discover vf/pf topology and AFU ID as well.03:31
xinranwangwill read through it later03:31
Sundars/but does inspect/but does NOT inspect/03:31
SundarAnything else to cover today?03:32
YumengSundar: seems need more thinking. I will dig the ML more. and Re:https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701518/ Yes. I was testing with a real GPU03:32
SundarYumeng: good to know03:33
YumengI was testing GPU driver and  pls help to review. Li_Liu, chenke, xinranwang, s_shogo, Sundar,wangzhh: ^03:34
Yumenghttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/701518/03:34
xinranwangYumeng:  ok, will review it later03:34
Yumeng^_^ thanks!03:34
SundarPlease keep continuing the good work, folks! Thanks a lot. Happy New Year, and have a good day!03:34
SundarBye03:34
wangzhhYumeng, Yep, some comments in line.03:34
Yumengbye03:34
Sundar#endmeeting03:34
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wangzhhBye03:34
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Yumengwangzhh: Thanks! I will check. :)03:35
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