| fungi | sean-k-mooney: is https://docs.openstack.org/cyborg/latest/configuration/drivers.html the new guide referred to in the 2026.1/gazpacho highlights? | 19:35 |
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| sean-k-mooney | yes its still not very compelte but it was better then the 0 content that was more or less there before | 19:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | fungi: did you have any specific questions of feed back? | 19:38 |
| fungi | sean-k-mooney: nope, just going back through on a final pass of highlights now that more of them have merged, flagging things for the marketing/pr folks to consider working into the press package | 19:41 |
| fungi | they're overly eager to say ai-related things about cyborg, because media hype train, and i thought at least that's something useful to show in that regard while you're still getting ramped up on deeper development efforts | 19:42 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya well this guide is mostly ai generated form the souce code and config option help text but framed to be a litte more parseable | 19:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | its ceretnly either then lookign at the config smaples https://docs.openstack.org/cyborg/latest/configuration/sample-config.html | 19:44 |
| fungi | to marketing people, cyborg == gpu == ai | 19:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | fungi: basiclly i created it when i realisted that there was no doc on hwo to deploy with a specific driver or what depencies it needs | 19:45 |
| fungi | so whenever they want to say things about ai, cyborg always comes up | 19:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya | 19:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | that proably because its called out in the ai white paper so prominently | 19:45 |
| fungi | but hey, if it brings attention to the project and maybe more help, who am i to argue? ;) | 19:45 |
| fungi | as long as we don't say anything that's untrue, it's cool | 19:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | :) | 19:46 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://www.openstack.org/openstack-for-ai-white-paper implies cyborg is more useful today then it really is | 19:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | but that does nto mean it cant evovle to have a larger role in the future | 19:47 |
| fungi | i'm still enough of an engineer that i don't like to lie about things, but i feel like there are exciting things to say while sticking to the facts | 19:47 |
| fungi | and sometimes we just need to make seemingly-unexciting things exciting | 19:48 |
| fungi | like... driver documentation | 19:48 |
| fungi | (from my perspective, it's great when anyone cares about documentation at all, so that's a clear win) | 19:49 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya specs are grate but oen of the thing is want to improve in general is the intree devleoper docs and user/admin ones too to capture more of the why and how it wors type content | 19:50 |
| sean-k-mooney | the user/admin ones need to be more how you use it focused | 19:50 |
| sean-k-mooney | but i think improving the contributor docs is also important so that future contibutor undersand how and imporantly why thigns work | 19:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | the way they work | 19:51 |
| fungi | that would all be great for project updates, absolutely | 19:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | i partly considered if moving the cyborg-spec into the docs like placement did would be good long term but that was too low a priority to change right away | 19:51 |
| fungi | from a "what's in 2026.1/gazpacho?" angle, there's less to cover for cyborg at the moment, hence gravitating toward the driver config guide | 19:52 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya the main things that change were oslo.db comatablity, eventlet removal and a cople of bug fixes | 19:53 |
| fungi | of the highlights, the only other maybe user-facing one was placement integration | 19:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | partly because the focus was "get somethign releaseable" rather then adding end user value via new features ectra | 19:53 |
| fungi | but that's a bit harder to get marketing people to turn into a good press blurb | 19:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | the placement fix was more an operator highlight | 19:53 |
| fungi | sounds like there may be some great nuggets to include in 2026.2/hibiscus press though | 19:54 |
| sean-k-mooney | but yes there isnt a lot to highlith for actull end users this cycle | 19:54 |
| sean-k-mooney | hopefully | 19:55 |
| fungi | yeah, you and i both know that's the most important thing, it's just sadly not the sort of thing news articles are likely to focus on | 19:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya so as you said along as what they include is correct i think haveing a minimal refence to cybrog is fine. i know there is a tempation to include it because of the ai connection but i think most of that will come in 2026.2, 2027.1 or later releases as we properly get going again | 20:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | the only ai usecase not supproted driectly in nova form https://www.openstack.org/openstack-for-ai-white-paper is fpga provisiong. that is the only thing that cybrog really brings to the tabel today. | 20:03 |
| sean-k-mooney | we are currently trying to source some hardware for a potical third party ci to test some gpu usecase going forward | 20:04 |
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