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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/defcore: Fixing generator to output doc8 compliant rst https://review.openstack.org/189335 | 18:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/defcore: Update tox.ini to test all rst, fix tox errors https://review.openstack.org/181756 | 18:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag Compute tests that rely on the Glance V1 (resubmission) https://review.openstack.org/189867 | 19:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Fix syntax error in 2015.next.json https://review.openstack.org/189887 | 19:30 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_SWA: eglute: Syntax error in 2015.next.json. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189887/1 | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/defcore: Fix syntax error in 2015.next.json https://review.openstack.org/189887 | 19:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag Compute tests that rely on the Glance V1 (resubmission) https://review.openstack.org/189867 | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag Compute tests that rely on the Glance V1 (resubmission) https://review.openstack.org/189867 | 19:42 |
| zehicle_SWA | ironically, the fastest time for me to do these reviews is when I'm flying | 19:47 |
| hogepodge | heh | 19:50 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_SWA: eglute: I'm starting to work through the old flagged test so we can start prioritizing re-addition or rejection. | 19:50 |
| zehicle_SWA | thanks | 19:54 |
| zehicle_SWA | my top priority would be getting VanL list of capabilities back into the .next file | 19:55 |
| zehicle_SWA | I cannot just do it myself because I can't find the test membership. link? | 19:55 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_SWA: it's probably best left to VanL | 19:55 |
| VanL | Ohai, I see you are talking about me | 19:56 |
| zehicle_SWA | hogepodge, I think that having concrete examples of flags would help drive the process discussion | 19:56 |
| * zehicle_SWA waves | 19:56 | |
| VanL | I've been on the other side of the clock (in Taiwan), but am planning on attending tomorrow. | 19:56 |
| * zehicle_SWA arms are getting tired | 19:56 | |
| VanL | A couple questions: | 19:57 |
| zehicle_SWA | cool! you can test our time zone friendliness | 19:57 |
| VanL | 1. Weren't we going to combine capabilities w/ the regular meeting? | 19:57 |
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| zehicle_SWA | 1. yes | 19:57 |
| VanL | I hear talk of two separate meetings again. Did that not happen? | 19:58 |
| VanL | (That's ok, just want to understand what is going on) | 19:58 |
| zehicle_SWA | but I'm not sure how to run that discussion in an interactive way over IRC. was hoping someone smarter would have an idea | 19:58 |
| VanL | I understand the affection for IRC, but its a pretty low-bandwidth way to have a meeting. | 19:59 |
| VanL | Not a fan, myself. | 19:59 |
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| zehicle_SWA | this is a trial run ... so, we should plan do score something and see how it goes | 20:04 |
| hogepodge | zehicle_SWA: VanL: If we want community involvement, IRC is a must IMO. | 20:04 |
| hogepodge | Meeting skills are hard, but actually have a lot of strengths. Logged, for one. | 20:04 |
| * zehicle_SWA did not mean to reopen that can of worms | 20:05 | |
| VanL | hogepodge: Yes, I know. I'm not fighting it, just expressing my opinion. | 20:05 |
| zehicle_SWA | I'd like to see a specific suggestion of how we are going to discuss scoring 12 items per capability via IRC | 20:06 |
| zehicle_SWA | and/or gerrit | 20:06 |
| VanL | zehicle_SWA: I actually think that we can do that, now that we have base scores | 20:06 |
| zehicle_SWA | for changes, yes. I'm thinking about unscored caps | 20:06 |
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| zehicle_SWA | likely OK if we only have a few at a time | 20:07 |
| VanL | I would propose something like this: | 20:07 |
| VanL | Discussion: capability_name | 20:08 |
| VanL | Proposal: Plays well: 1/0/1 | 20:08 |
| VanL | Future direction: 1/1/1 | 20:08 |
| VanL | So you can deal with them in groups of four triplets | 20:09 |
| VanL | With a semi-standard way of formatting them | 20:09 |
| zehicle_SWA | could work | 20:09 |
| zehicle_SWA | what about having people post the "achievements" they think apply as a single line | 20:10 |
| zehicle_SWA | then we could union it for scoring | 20:10 |
| zehicle_SWA | that's pretty much the same as you suggested | 20:10 |
| VanL | Achievements are already captured in the triplets | 20:10 |
| zehicle_SWA | would be interesting to see. discussion is the critical thing | 20:10 |
| VanL | except you need to type less for the triplets... although it assumes base knowledge | 20:11 |
| zehicle_SWA | +1 VanL | 20:11 |
| VanL | Then I propose that discussion take place like this: | 20:11 |
| zehicle_SWA | I think that could work. | 20:11 |
| VanL | zehicle_SWA proposed plays well 1/0/1. I think it is 1/1/1, because [...] | 20:12 |
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| VanL | That way you can disagree, and the bitfield notes the extent of the disagreement, followed by the reasoning. | 20:13 |
| zehicle_SWA | you've sold me. getting out my mad chmod skills | 20:15 |
| zehicle_SWA | so, we'll end up w/ tuples! 111.011.100.111 | 20:16 |
| VanL | Yes | 20:17 |
| VanL | And we could even record those if we wanted | 20:18 |
| VanL | def score(bitfield:tuple, weights:tuple) -> int | 20:19 |
| zehicle_SWA | cool! and I'm assuming NO BIT math :) 7.3.4.7 is not going to be welcomed | 20:27 |
| zehicle_SWA | hmmm, actually, that is not too hard to read | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag tests that depend upon SSH. https://review.openstack.org/189927 | 20:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Justin Shepherd proposed openstack/defcore: Fixing [doc8] section in tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/189928 | 20:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Remove flag because of bug fix. https://review.openstack.org/189931 | 20:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Justin Shepherd proposed openstack/defcore: Fixing [doc8] section in tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/189928 | 21:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Justin Shepherd proposed openstack/defcore: Moving documentation over to sphinx build process https://review.openstack.org/189950 | 21:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Remove flag because of bug fix. https://review.openstack.org/189931 | 21:55 |
| galstrom | hogepodge, eglute: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189950/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189956/ | 22:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Justin Shepherd proposed openstack/defcore: Moving documentation over to sphinx build process https://review.openstack.org/189950 | 22:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Remove test that is not widely supported across hypervisors https://review.openstack.org/189961 | 22:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Remove test that is not widely supported across hypervisors https://review.openstack.org/189961 | 22:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Remove capabilities for vendor policy. https://review.openstack.org/189966 | 22:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag soft reboot test. https://review.openstack.org/189973 | 23:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag soft reboot test. https://review.openstack.org/189973 | 23:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag compute resize tests https://review.openstack.org/189975 | 23:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag test that makes assumption about image creation https://review.openstack.org/189977 | 23:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Flag test_get_object_after_expiry_time due to Tempest bug https://review.openstack.org/189978 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Hoge proposed openstack/defcore: Remove Swift ACL test on advice from Swift PTL https://review.openstack.org/189979 | 23:54 |
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