Thursday, 2016-05-26

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openstackgerritAndrey Pavlov proposed openstack/defcore: Introduce target_programs definition  https://review.openstack.org/31062113:41
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hogepodgemarkvoelker: we're saying the same things14:51
markvoelkerhogepodge: are we?  Ok, good. =)  I thought you were saying router operations were not exposed to non-admins. =)14:52
hogepodgemarkvoelker: some are, and the policy files aren't very enlightening (it looks like the policies that say l3-router apply to external interfaces and snat?)14:53
markvoelkerright14:53
hogepodgemarkvoelker: I don't want to get rid of any of the tests, I just want to figure out which ones we have to get rid of, and I can do that today (it was on my plate). I was in some ways making notes in those reviews. There are other tests, for volume qos for example, that seem to be admin-only by policy14:54
markvoelkergotcha14:55
markvoelkerI find reading policy files perplexing if you're not already familiar with them (and this point has been brought up in the technical community too...there's a move afoot to switch to yaml so they can be comment-doc'd).14:55
hogepodgeI didn't want that patch to land, but owed it to catherine to do that initial work14:55
markvoelkerMuch easier to read the end user docs and/or just test it w/devstack imho14:55
hogepodgethe docs aren't always clear either, :-D14:55
hogepodgebut yeah, testing with devstack ++14:55
hogepodgeI'll send up an initial tempest review later today. This work is pretty similar to what I did for cutting out multi-tenant access. It's a refactor job, and the tests that require admin will also be moved to the right spot.14:56
markvoelkermuy bueno.  Shout if you need some help, I may get a few free cycles next week14:57
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nikhilcatherineD: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcAJIY7vWzISHw_7nBp1VCGyXB2pkrKfgKKUfztHvfaJmLU9A?hl=en&authuser=0 :-)15:07
hogepodgemarkvoelker: see nikhil's link above, glance refactor meeting15:09
nikhilhogepodge: we're just waiting for someone from defcore15:10
nikhil:)15:10
markvoelkeryep, joining shortly15:10
hogepodgenikhil: I can't join for some reason15:10
nikhilhogepodge: how about if you use this https://plus.google.com/events/cb4acoebucn25vu8f7enprp85j415:10
hogepodgeIt says the broadcast will begin soon15:11
nikhilhogepodge: oh, if you are waiting to stream it then I will start the brodcast soon15:11
nikhilhogepodge: if you want to join then that's the link15:11
hogepodgenikhil: I do want to join, so don't understand why I'm only there as a viewer and not a participant15:12
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hogepodgenikhil: can you send an invitation to chris@openstack.org?15:13
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hogepodgemarkvoelker: should we schedule a time to talk about future image upload capablities?16:21
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hogepodgethat meeting highlights a real problem we face, especially with images and networking16:28
hogepodgehere are interop capabilities we want to have, but OpenStack gives different providers for those capabilities16:28
hogepodgeI don't think we can ignore the multiple provider problem, and I'd even argue we have a responsibility to work with the technical community to find a tractable solution for it16:29
nikhilmarkvoelker: hogepodge: thingee: Thanks a ton for joining and giving valuable feedback!16:41
nikhilHere's the video recording if you need to lookback into the meeting discussions https://plus.google.com/events/cb4acoebucn25vu8f7enprp85j416:42
markvoelkerhogepodge: nikhil: thanks.  I left a comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318313 recapping what I think I heard the asks are.16:42
markvoelkerhogepodge: sure, let's do that16:43
nikhilmarkvoelker: oh, that's a nice detailed comment. I will make sure to read it today. Much appreciated!16:44
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