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| tongli | guys, can someone please merge this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356586/ | 13:11 |
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| tongli | it has been there for 6 days since Edgar +2. | 13:12 |
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| gema | it needs workflow review | 13:53 |
| gema | I am not sure who can do that, I Cannot :) | 13:53 |
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| tongli_ | hello, guys. time for the meeting. | 14:01 |
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| skazi | hi | 14:01 |
| tongli_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-08-31 | 14:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 14:01 |
| tongli_ | the etherpad. | 14:01 |
| tongli_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| gema | tongli_: are you starting the meeting? | 14:01 |
| tongli_ | I have not done that myself. I mean with all the commands. | 14:02 |
| tongli_ | if you can start, that will be nice. | 14:02 |
| catherine_d|1 | #startmeeting interop-challenge | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 31 14:02:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherine_d|1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge' | 14:03 |
| rohit404 | o/ | 14:03 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 14:03 |
| shamail | hi | 14:03 |
| gema | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-08-31 | 14:03 |
| tongli_ | o/ | 14:03 |
| MarkBaker | hello interop folk | 14:03 |
| catherine_d|1 | o/ | 14:04 |
| topol | hi | 14:04 |
| topol | hi | 14:04 |
| tongli_ | hi, brad. | 14:04 |
| skazi | o/ | 14:04 |
| catherine_d|1 | #chair topol | 14:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: catherine_d|1 topol | 14:05 |
| dmellado | hi | 14:05 |
| topol | sorry for being late. Had some wifi issues. running off my cellphone hotspot :-) | 14:05 |
| topol | #startmeeting interop_challenge | 14:05 |
| openstack | topol: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 14:05 |
| topol | cool someone started the meeting | 14:05 |
| dmellado | topol: it seems that it has already been started, yes | 14:06 |
| topol | who is here today? | 14:06 |
| luzC | o/ | 14:06 |
| tongli_ | @topol, catherine alerady started on. | 14:06 |
| rohit404 | o/ | 14:06 |
| dmellado | o/ | 14:06 |
| gema | o/ | 14:06 |
| tongli_ | o/ | 14:06 |
| skazi | o/ | 14:06 |
| catherine_d|1 | o/ | 14:06 |
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| MarkBaker | o/ | 14:07 |
| shamail | o/ | 14:07 |
| topol | The agenda for today can be found at: | 14:08 |
| topol | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge#Meeting_Information | 14:08 |
| topol | In case we need to take notes, the etherpad for this meeting can be found here | 14:08 |
| topol | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-08-31 | 14:08 |
| topol | #topic review action items from previous meeting | 14:08 |
| topol | #link | 14:08 |
| topol | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-08-17-14.00.html | 14:08 |
| topol | markvoelker | 14:08 |
| topol | markvoelker update wiki page with how to submit test results | 14:08 |
| topol | markvoelker to record results on the wiki page, folks you email results to the defcore meeting list | 14:08 |
| topol | is markvoelker here today? | 14:09 |
| topol | I believe these action items have been copleted | 14:09 |
| topol | tongli_ can you confirm? | 14:09 |
| tongli_ | @topol, he might be traveling, could not find him yesterday neither. | 14:10 |
| tongli_ | @topol, yes, that is all agreed on. | 14:10 |
| topol | But these items have been done correct? | 14:10 |
| rohit404 | "Where/How to Share Test Results" section seems to be added on the wiki | 14:10 |
| topol | great | 14:10 |
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| topol | tongli | 14:11 |
| topol | if folks want tongli to help run tests on their cloud, get him an account | 14:11 |
| topol | let tongli, topol know if any issues with Terraform | 14:11 |
| topol | tongli and topol to follow up on who has declared their release | 14:11 |
| topol | topol | 14:11 |
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| hogepodge | Can you add the link to the wiki? | 14:11 |
| topol | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge#Meeting_Information | 14:12 |
| topol | Does anyone need help from tongli_ to get the workloads running? | 14:12 |
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| topol | Let us know if anyone is struggling | 14:13 |
| tongli_ | or has anyone run these tests on their own? | 14:13 |
| peterscraig_ | since I've only recently engaged I may need your help tongli_ | 14:13 |
| tongli_ | @peterscraig_, I am here to help. | 14:14 |
| topol | OK, good. dont be shy | 14:14 |
| tongli_ | I have run these tests against IBM Bluebox and some of my private cloud, all working well. | 14:14 |
| vkmc | I'm as well recently involved, got my environment ready, hopefully will try running workloads later today | 14:14 |
| peterscraig_ | I'll be working to setup the tests later this week | 14:14 |
| vkmc | at least the three-tier webapp | 14:14 |
| topol | vkmc Excellent | 14:14 |
| tongli_ | @vkmc, cool. | 14:15 |
| topol | peterscraig Very good as well | 14:15 |
| topol | tongli and topol to follow up on who has declared their release | 14:15 |
| topol | UNASSIGNED | 14:15 |
| topol | other folks put your preferred test OS release in the etherpad, | 14:15 |
| rohit404 | I did run the Terraform Swarm tests against Cisco cloud and with some fixes that are out for review it's running fine | 14:15 |
| topol | please! | 14:15 |
| tongli_ | @vkmc, do not need any thing special, other than have two images, | 14:15 |
| topol | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-08-17 | 14:15 |
| topol | 14:15 | |
| topol | shamail to add affiliate/company to the results template | 14:15 |
| tongli_ | coreos and a ubuntu image to run these tests. | 14:15 |
| topol | rohit404 Great! | 14:15 |
| shamail | sounds good. | 14:16 |
| gema | rohit404: what kind of fixes, do you have a link to them? | 14:16 |
| rohit404 | gema: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356586/ | 14:16 |
| gema | ta | 14:16 |
| tongli_ | @gema, there is a patch for the docker swarm , already there, just need someone to push the button to get it merged. | 14:16 |
| gema | oh, I just reviewed it, sounded good | 14:16 |
| gema | tongli_: yep, no idea who has the core commit rights on that branch | 14:17 |
| topol | tongli_ do you know who the cores are? | 14:17 |
| tongli_ | catherine might know. | 14:17 |
| topol | #action tongli_ to check with Catherine to identify the cores :-) | 14:18 |
| topol | Last action item from last week: I believe everyone did update last weeks etherpad with their company affiliation and what release version they are using | 14:19 |
| catherine_d|1 | one of the important thing is ... since we use this repository ... does it make sense to invite one of the core to join our project> | 14:19 |
| topol | or at least lots of people did. Need to track down anyone that maybe missing | 14:19 |
| topol | catherine_d|1 yes of course | 14:19 |
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| topol | ok to today's agenda | 14:20 |
| topol | #topic Test Environments | 14:20 |
| peterscraig_ | I added Mirantis' version to the etherpad for today's meeting | 14:20 |
| topol | Sounds like the first two workoads are getting tested. Any news on the ATT NFV workload? | 14:21 |
| topol | peterscraig_ Thanks. I copied it to the etherpad where all the others are listed | 14:23 |
| peterscraig_ | @topol thanks | 14:24 |
| topol | So is anyone from AT&T here? eeiden? | 14:24 |
| topol | I talked to eeiden yesterday and I believe At&T is still deciding which NFV workload to propose | 14:24 |
| topol | #action tongli_ and topol to follow up with eeiden on which ATT NFV workload to use | 14:25 |
| topol | #topic Results - Send as emails | 14:25 |
| topol | tongli_ does eveyone know how to send results? | 14:26 |
| gema | I am unclear on that | 14:26 |
| topol | tongli_ do we have that documented on the wiki now? | 14:26 |
| tongli_ | @topol, @gema, I think we supposed to create a report (manually) and email to the defcore mailing list. | 14:27 |
| gema | tongli_: yeah but there was a specific format | 14:27 |
| tongli_ | Mark will record the results. | 14:27 |
| MarkBaker | topol, I believe Toby mentioned Clearwater IMS in the 1st call | 14:27 |
| tongli_ | correct, the format is at the bottom of the wiki page. | 14:27 |
| topol | tongli_ we have a template to fill out. Where is that? | 14:27 |
| gema | tongli_: where is that wiki? | 14:27 |
| topol | tongli_ perfect! | 14:27 |
| tongli_ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge, at the bottom of the page. | 14:28 |
| topol | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge#Meeting_Information has everything :-) | 14:28 |
| luzC | lost connection for a sec. about the results it will be sending the email to the defcore mailing list right? | 14:29 |
| topol | And the specific spot: | 14:29 |
| topol | #linl https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge#Where.2FHow_to_Share_Test_Results | 14:29 |
| luzC | also it will be 1 email per cloud results (all workloads/executions) | 14:29 |
| tongli_ | @luzC, yes. | 14:29 |
| topol | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge#Where.2FHow_to_Share_Test_Results | 14:29 |
| gema | cool, thanks | 14:29 |
| topol | #action all to become familair with the template and how to submit results :-) | 14:29 |
| tongli_ | @luzC, yes, one report per cloud with all three test results. | 14:30 |
| catherine_d|1 | RefStack test should be run also on the clouds | 14:30 |
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| catherine_d|1 | I will add instructions about testing/sending results to the wiki afther this meeting | 14:31 |
| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: can we also encourage participants to run more than just the defcore specified tests? | 14:31 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: absolutely | 14:31 |
| topol | #action catherine_d|1 will add instructions about testing/sending results to the wiki after this meeting | 14:31 |
| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: there's a habit amongst result submitters to only run defcore specific tests, and we want to capture as much of the available api as possible | 14:31 |
| jkomg | +1 | 14:32 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: +1 | 14:32 |
| topol | +1 Lets get all those results flowing in! | 14:32 |
| rohit404 | catherine_d|1: there was a recommendation documentation in progress for running the refstack tests, is that already available ? do you know by any chance ? | 14:32 |
| tongli_ | the results of refstack run and the work load results will be different location. | 14:33 |
| tongli_ | refstack recorded at a site. | 14:33 |
| gema | rohit404: dmellado and I are going to be working on how to generate a proper tempest.conf for the run , we can share the list for testing | 14:33 |
| tongli_ | work load test results are supposed to send to the defcore mailing list. | 14:33 |
| gema | dmellado: my cloud is almost ready for the testing, I hope I can try it soon | 14:33 |
| dmellado | gema: ack, awesome ;) | 14:33 |
| dmellado | gema: I'll put it on a git.openstack repo so we could track and collaborate on it | 14:34 |
| tongli_ | the work load test result only references the link to the refstack result. | 14:34 |
| gema | dmellado: ack, thanks | 14:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | rohit404: we do .. I will add that to the wiki ... For RefStack related questions, please ask on #refstack or #openstack-defcore | 14:34 |
| topol | #action catherine_d|1 will add that to the wiki ... For RefStack related questions, please ask on #refstack or #openstack-defcore | 14:35 |
| rohit404 | sounds great ! thanks gema, catherine_d|1 | 14:35 |
| topol | Sounds like folks are making good progress! | 14:35 |
| topol | #topic Open discussion | 14:36 |
| topol | any other topics or issues? | 14:36 |
| dcnatt_ | Joined late, apologies. Quick update on VNF - hoping to have code first of next week | 14:36 |
| tongli_ | NFV work load | 14:36 |
| dcnatt_ | lol | 14:36 |
| tongli_ | a bit urgent now, I would think. | 14:36 |
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| gema | topol: how are we going to present this at ODS? do we need to give anything other than the results for that? | 14:37 |
| dcnatt_ | Challenging working through options | 14:37 |
| dcnatt_ | Do we have a format of exactly what we wish to report/present? | 14:37 |
| topol | tongli_ gema ODS? You mean the OpenSTack SUmmit Barcelona? | 14:37 |
| gema | topol: yep | 14:38 |
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| topol | gema, We need to work with the foundation on the best way to present. One option may be having the workloads running in the exhibitor hall or as part of a presentation | 14:39 |
| luzC | topol did we establish some dates to have the result reports from everyone? | 14:40 |
| topol | So as more folks get the workloads running we will chekcpoint with the foundation | 14:40 |
| gema | topol: ack | 14:40 |
| topol | luzC the idea was to leave this as open as long as possible so that we could include as many folks as possible | 14:40 |
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| luzC | cool, makes sense | 14:41 |
| topol | Okay I see some Open Discussion items on the etherpad (Thanks Catherine) | 14:41 |
| topol | nterop-Challenge related reviews | 14:41 |
| topol | Added dir and heat files for interop challange ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351799/ ) | 14:41 |
| topol | swarm-manager.service does not support enable as a command ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356586/ ) | 14:41 |
| topol | Test version Mitaka (Mirantis) - sorry missed prior meetings | 14:41 |
| topol | How do I propose Juju as a tool covered by this challenge? Is Juju OpenStack? No less so than Terraform or AnsibleGood point | 14:41 |
| topol | So we have some patches that need to be reviewed | 14:42 |
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| catherine_d|1 | topol: yea | 14:42 |
| topol | So for Juju, did you want to just use Juju with the existing workloads? | 14:44 |
| gema | topol: who are you talking to? | 14:44 |
| gema | I Am completely lost | 14:44 |
| catherine_d|1 | this is related to the discussion ealrlier that we should invite the core from the osops to the interop-challenge porject | 14:45 |
| topol | gema, someone on the etherpad in open discussion asked bout Juju. Who was that? | 14:45 |
| gema | topol: ah, ok | 14:45 |
| gema | topol: juju is a deployment tool and we could use it for a workload indeed | 14:45 |
| topol | gema yes, but don't we need Charms built? | 14:46 |
| gema | topol: all we'd need is to decide to run it, the charms are already there | 14:46 |
| gema | we may need to agree on some config options | 14:46 |
| vkmc | is there a juju deployment available somewhere? | 14:46 |
| gema | topol: that wasn't me comenting on the etherpad, but I have worked with juju before and I like it :D | 14:46 |
| topol | gema so its always great to see all the deployment tools working | 14:47 |
| gema | vkmc: you can deploy many services with juju, we just have to choose one | 14:47 |
| gema | there are open source charms for them (the scripts that configure the services) | 14:47 |
| vkmc | I'm aware yes, but I mean of a public cloud set up with MaaS + Juju | 14:47 |
| topol | gema I thought with juju you had to purchase its runtime component. Is that not true? | 14:47 |
| gema | vkmc: I believe so, but the right person for that question is MarkBaker | 14:48 |
| vkmc | AFAIK there is not a community version | 14:48 |
| vkmc | that we can use/deploy | 14:48 |
| gema | topol: I don't think that's true | 14:48 |
| gema | MarkBaker: can you comment on this? | 14:48 |
| jkomg | I also thought there wasn't a community version, I'd love to be wrong | 14:48 |
| topol | gema so my question is how could someone like tongli_ test the juju version? | 14:48 |
| gema | I have always done a sudo apt-get install juju | 14:48 |
| gema | and used it | 14:48 |
| vkmc | jkomg++ | 14:48 |
| gema | you bootstrap your env and that's it | 14:49 |
| tongli_ | @gema, if there is a good instruction on how to use it, I do not mind to try it. | 14:49 |
| topol | gema so we would need someone to add to the repository the Juju content and how to run it so we could all try it | 14:49 |
| MarkBaker | sorry - was distracted | 14:49 |
| topol | Yay MarkBaker :-) | 14:49 |
| * MarkBaker reads scrollback | 14:49 | |
| gema | MarkBaker: the floor is yours | 14:49 |
| tongli_ | but I think we have pretty much decided to use ansible and terraform. as the report format indicated. | 14:50 |
| tongli_ | should we alter the report to include juju? | 14:50 |
| topol | I am okay with seeing if Juju can work for folks as well. | 14:50 |
| MarkBaker | ok, there are no propreitary components to Juju, no purchase required | 14:50 |
| gema | tongli_: I think if we were going to include juju we should choose a different workload | 14:50 |
| gema | and add it to the list | 14:50 |
| gema | the overhead would be minimal imo | 14:50 |
| topol | gema that would be ideal | 14:50 |
| luzC | tongli_ +1 | 14:51 |
| MarkBaker | the Juju OpenStack provider supports multiple versions of OpenStack - i.e you can deploy workloads to openstacks from different providers | 14:51 |
| MarkBaker | providers in this conztext = distributions | 14:51 |
| gema | MarkBaker: if you and james could choose an easy but not as easy as wordpress workflow to run | 14:51 |
| gema | I can document it | 14:51 |
| gema | and we'd be set to go next week with a juju workload as well | 14:51 |
| MarkBaker | Juju has hundreds of charms including all the worklaods discussed here | 14:51 |
| MarkBaker | many NFV workloads for example | 14:51 |
| peterscraig_ | Doesn't the different providers break the intent of the test in the same way Shade does? | 14:52 |
| topol | MarkBaker, NFV would be really cool!!! | 14:52 |
| tongli_ | so gema, if we do this juju thing, there needs to be a workload test in the repository where lampstack is currently in? | 14:52 |
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| gema | tongli_: I don't think we'd need anything other than instructions | 14:52 |
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| MarkBaker | peterscraig_, no there is a single Juju OpenStack provider which works against many different openstack distributions | 14:52 |
| gema | we won't need code | 14:52 |
| gema | it's all in the charms already | 14:52 |
| topol | gema can you get this into the repository so we can see what we have here? | 14:53 |
| topol | Ideally Juju with NFV would be my preference | 14:53 |
| MarkBaker | gema is correct - most of the work is already done, we just need to run the tests | 14:53 |
| gema | topol: I have never deployed any NFV workload on my clouds so MarkBaker would have to help with that | 14:53 |
| peterscraig_ | Reading back to MarkBaker's comments about juju providers, I interpreted that as JuJu adapting to different distributions, which is the opposite of the goal. Or am I misinterpreting? | 14:54 |
| gema | but I Can definitely add a few lines on how to install/use juju | 14:54 |
| topol | MarkBaker do you think that is doable? | 14:54 |
| MarkBaker | for many workloads the charms have tests (benchmarks etc..) built in as a way of validating the installation | 14:54 |
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| MarkBaker | peterscraig_, juju does not adapt to different distros, it uses base API calls. Admittedly it needs a lot more testing against other OpenStacks though | 14:54 |
| gema | MarkBaker: I think the key here is for you to tell us: what version of juju / ubuntu we should use for this, and what service | 14:55 |
| topol | Time is of the esssence. gema, MarkBaker the key is to get something into the repository for folks to be able to try | 14:55 |
| peterscraig_ | ack | 14:55 |
| MarkBaker | topol, I'll write up/point to some docs zinstructing people how to get going | 14:55 |
| topol | Cool | 14:55 |
| gema | MarkBaker: +1! | 14:55 |
| topol | #action MarkBaker will write up/point to some docs instructing people how to get going | 14:56 |
| topol | If all goes well we show 3 different workloads and 3 different deployment tools running on everyone's OpenStack clouds | 14:56 |
| topol | the foundation asked for an NFV workload so if anyway to wing that would be cool | 14:57 |
| tongli_ | earlier, someone indicated to have deadline to report test results. | 14:57 |
| tongli_ | should we establish that? | 14:57 |
| dcnatt_ | Working on it and it looks plausible | 14:57 |
| gema | the week before ODS barcelona sounds like a good deadline? | 14:57 |
| dcnatt_ | +1 | 14:58 |
| topol | tongli_ we will leave it open as long as possible to help get as many folks successful as we can. Obviously the more folks that get it done early will allow me to lower my blood pressure medicine dosage | 14:58 |
| tongli_ | @gema, two weeks before, just make sure people have a sense of urgency. | 14:58 |
| dcnatt_ | me2 | 14:58 |
| topol | two weeks sounds good | 14:59 |
| gema | topol, tongli_ ack | 14:59 |
| topol | #agree final results deadline is two weeks before Barcelona summit | 14:59 |
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| topol | any other items for today? Pretty much out of time | 15:00 |
| vkmc | +1 to deadline | 15:00 |
| topol | OK great meeting everyone!!! | 15:00 |
| tongli_ | just run these tests and share the results. looking forward to the results. | 15:00 |
| dcnatt_ | Thx all | 15:00 |
| topol | Thanks for participating!!! | 15:00 |
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| topol | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| gema | oh, man, I was planning to run the tests on the plane to ODS... x) Now I have to do it earlier! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 31 15:00:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-08-31-14.02.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-08-31-14.02.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-08-31-14.02.log.html | 15:01 |
| topol | gema :-) | 15:01 |
| catherine_d|1 | gema: :-) | 15:01 |
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| vkmc | thanks o/ | 15:02 |
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| eglute | DefCore meeting today, please add items to the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.15 | 15:23 |
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| tongli_ | can some of the cores please help get this merged? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356586/ | 19:07 |
| tongli_ | really appreciate your help if you can take a quick look. removed two lines. | 19:07 |
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