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amrith | is there a phone number to call into the meeting at 2pm? | 17:57 |
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eglute | amrith we are starting now | 18:03 |
eglute | it is being recorded, so you can view later | 18:03 |
eglute | https://plus.google.com/events/cuejgn5k8keg0j0c11qi3k4j15c | 18:03 |
eglute | since it is a broadcast, i do not think there is a number | 18:04 |
amrith | can't see the slides any longer | 18:04 |
amrith | eglute ^^ | 18:05 |
eglute | odd | 18:05 |
amrith | now we can | 18:06 |
amrith | thank you! hangouts isn't all that it is cracked up to be. | 18:06 |
eglute | https://docs.google.com/a/openstack.org/presentation/d/1DqhUD4jdc8Cvmcid215age1AAp-K0xyqYHvgr45hWYE/edit?usp=sharing | 18:06 |
amrith | this link requires permissions | 18:06 |
gema | the slides look good now | 18:07 |
eglute | thank you amrith and gema | 18:07 |
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eglute | hm, gema can you see slides? | 18:07 |
eglute | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1DqhUD4jdc8Cvmcid215age1AAp-K0xyqYHvgr45hWYE/edit?usp=sharing | 18:07 |
gema | eglute: yes | 18:08 |
eglute | ok | 18:08 |
amrith | could you provide some background on what the interop group is about | 18:08 |
amrith | and what the aim of this process is | 18:08 |
eglute | amrith, we will answer questions after the presentation if that is ok | 18:09 |
amrith | ok, sure :) | 18:09 |
amrith | I'll wait for the q&a to find out what I'm listening to ... | 18:10 |
eglute | sorry, we should have probably included that in the beginning. i think chris will cover some of your questions | 18:10 |
eglute | Interop group defines what needs to be running on any given OpenStack cloud for THAT cloud to be able to use OpenStack trademark. | 18:11 |
gema | amrith: this group is about guaranteeing interoperability between different openstack clouds so that app developers and rely on the APIs being compatible across vendors | 18:11 |
gema | amrith: I guess I talk about the how and eglute about the what :D | 18:11 |
amrith | so when the presenter talks about 'products' what is he referring to? | 18:11 |
amrith | is he talking about openstack projects | 18:12 |
amrith | or distributions | 18:12 |
amrith | or some combination thereof? | 18:12 |
eglute | all products listed here: http://www.openstack.org/marketplace/ | 18:13 |
eglute | so it is products provided by various companies | 18:13 |
eglute | all those companies must pass defcore guideline tests to be able to use OpenStack trademark | 18:15 |
amrith | sorry, maybe it is me but I can't follow what's being said. I'll listen to the youtube later and maybe skip to the Q&A first. | 18:16 |
eglute | amrith no worries. you can always ask later here or on the mailing list | 18:17 |
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manjeets- | is scoring based on projects in openstack or for every feature in each project? | 18:25 |
mugsie | is there scope for projects not in tc-approved-release to be scored? | 18:25 |
mugsie | (we cannot be added to the standard yet, but we can use the score to get into the tc-approved-release) | 18:26 |
eglute | good questions manjeets- and mugsie, will let hogepodge answer in QA portion | 18:27 |
mugsie | ++ | 18:28 |
tongli | seems we lost audio. | 18:29 |
manjeets- | thank you | 18:29 |
tongli | can not hear anything now. it was working 30 seconds ago. | 18:29 |
eglute | working on it | 18:29 |
mugsie | I can still hear | 18:29 |
manjeets- | i can hear as well | 18:30 |
tongli | ha, strange, I reload the page, audio came back. | 18:30 |
eglute | thanks | 18:30 |
eglute | glad it works! | 18:30 |
manjeets- | eglute, sorry i missed earlier part of this stream can you share slides one more time | 18:31 |
eglute | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1DqhUD4jdc8Cvmcid215age1AAp-K0xyqYHvgr45hWYE/edit?usp=sharing | 18:31 |
manjeets- | thank you | 18:32 |
eglute | you are welcome! | 18:32 |
manjeets- | are patches welcome from whole community ? or just cores ? | 18:36 |
eglute | manjeets- will let hogepodge answer on air, but yes | 18:37 |
tongli | since there are so many variation of Neutron, are you thinking that we do different levels of compliance? | 18:38 |
tongli | say, flat network, tenant network. | 18:38 |
tongli | is there a recommendation on the tools to use for tests? Ansible seems a very nice tool. | 18:39 |
manjeets- | cool thank you | 18:39 |
eglute | manjeets- yw. more questions welcome :) | 18:40 |
tongli | we are facing the same question in neutron land when we are doing the interop challenge. | 18:41 |
tongli | Chris, that is the reason why I am thinking if we should have different levels of compliance. | 18:41 |
markvoelker | tongli: at the end of the day, if a Capability doesn't meet the Criteria, we don't include it. So for example: if only 50% of clouds support floating IP's, it's unlikely it would meet all the 12 criteria. | 18:42 |
markvoelker | tongli: ...because that Capability isn't actually interoperable. | 18:43 |
markvoelker | We have, however, started thinking about vertical use cases. NFV for example: if we created a "OpenStack Powered NFV" program, the networking requirements there might be very different than in an OpenStack Powered Compute product. | 18:44 |
tongli | the question is if I only have nova network, am I compliant? | 18:46 |
markvoelker | eglute: on that note, nova-net was also already on the path to deprecation and the usersurvey showed an overwhelming number of deployments used neutron. | 18:46 |
eglute | no, you must use neutron | 18:46 |
eglute | thanks markvoelker! | 18:46 |
tongli | @eglute, haha, that is what I am trying to get to. | 18:47 |
markvoelker | (As of the April user survey, 90% of deployments use Neutron.) | 18:47 |
tongli | yeah, as long as we have a clear direction. | 18:48 |
tongli | about the tool, I missed Chris answer. | 18:48 |
tongli | can chris repeat please. | 18:48 |
eglute | refstack and refstack client | 18:48 |
tongli | ok. can we try ansible please, please. | 18:49 |
manjeets- | so refstack just invokes api test for accepted capabilities ? | 18:49 |
manjeets- | api tests** | 18:49 |
markvoelker | manjeets-: refstack is a wrapper around Tempest, so it's running the same tests that are run at the gate | 18:50 |
tongli | ok. thanks. | 18:50 |
markvoelker | manjeets-: Basically, the idea is the community who creates the feature in the first place also has the best notion of what is considered "working", so we re-use the tempest tests. | 18:50 |
manjeets- | ohk may get better idea of differences after trying it | 18:51 |
manjeets- | thanks | 18:51 |
tongli | thanks Chris. | 18:51 |
manjeets- | can you repeat part for openstack certification | 18:51 |
manjeets- | ? | 18:51 |
manjeets- | sorry i missed some bits from it | 18:52 |
hogepodge | chris@openstack.org | 18:52 |
eglute | interop@openstack.org | 18:53 |
hogepodge | interop@openstack.org | 18:53 |
manjeets- | cool thank you very much | 18:53 |
hogepodge | http://www.openstack.org/brand/interop/ | 18:53 |
manjeets- | bye thanks | 18:54 |
eglute | thanks everyone! | 18:54 |
eglute | Recording: http://youtu.be/kDn4jj0iSK8 | 18:55 |
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