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| dolphm | gabrielhurley: i might have just been looking for you in the wrong channel :P | 01:34 |
| gabrielhurley | dolphm: when I'm on, I try to make sure I'm signed into both this channel and #openstack-horizon | 01:35 |
| dolphm | gabrielhurley: i probably looked in #openstack | 01:35 |
| gabrielhurley | ah, yeah, I'm not always in that one | 01:35 |
| gabrielhurley | I saw you marked the "admin"-ness bug as confirmed for keystone. thanks | 01:35 |
| dolphm | gabrielhurley: yeah, i confirmed the behavior, which i'm pretty confident differs than pre-redux | 01:36 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm like 99% sure | 01:36 |
| gabrielhurley | solely because I spent so long trying to figure out the global vs scoped roles when I first wrote the keystone client | 01:36 |
| dolphm | gabrielhurley: but termie wrote the policy stuff in redux, so i'd like to poke him about it | 01:37 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah, I'd like to get his input as well | 01:37 |
| gabrielhurley | the more the merrier on this topic though, since it matters to the whole stack | 01:37 |
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| corXi | chmouel: ping | 15:01 |
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| pvo | mtaylor: ping | 15:15 |
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| pvo | mtaylor: can you send me the tenant id of the limits you need me to adjust? | 15:33 |
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| chmouel | corXi: pong? | 16:04 |
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| vishy | adam_g: ping | 16:07 |
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| mtaylor | pvo: yes. is that different than my username? | 16:09 |
| vishy | pvo, comstud, tr3buchet, blamar, Vek, core members in general: reviews needed on https://review.openstack.org/#change,5969 and https://review.openstack.org/#change,5983 | 16:09 |
| tr3buchet | vishy: you bet | 16:10 |
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| pvo | mtaylor: its your tenant_id | 16:12 |
| pvo | it shoudl be different than your username | 16:13 |
| pvo | its it openstackjenkins? | 16:13 |
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| vishy | review needed here as well: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5939 | 16:14 |
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| vishy | tr3buchet: this is networking related. Might be a little outside of the stuff you focus on, but let me know what you think: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5961 | 16:19 |
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| justinsb_ | redbo: ping | 16:21 |
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| pvo | mtaylor: bumped the available gee bees | 16:22 |
| tr3buchet | vishy: looks good to me | 16:23 |
| tr3buchet | approved | 16:23 |
| vishy | tr3buchet: hmm just realized i should change the commit message as it doesn't match | 16:24 |
| vishy | let me block it and reapprove | 16:24 |
| tr3buchet | hurry | 16:24 |
| ttx | vishy: yo | 16:25 |
| vishy | ttx: hi | 16:25 |
| vishy | going through bugs now | 16:26 |
| ttx | vishy: great | 16:26 |
| vishy | ttx: i have a bunch of backporting to do and I have to check up on a couple of bugs that I targeted | 16:26 |
| ttx | ok. We'll probably want to sync the translations before RC2 too | 16:26 |
| ttx | and get to the bottom of this scopting tenant/admin thing | 16:27 |
| ttx | scoping | 16:27 |
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| ttx | vishy: would really be good to have RC2 out on Monday, even if that means pushing a few bugs to the known issues section of the release notes | 16:28 |
| vishy | i agree | 16:28 |
| ttx | We need to give at the very minimum 2-3 days of baking for that RC to catch showstoppers | 16:29 |
| ttx | but I don't think we can make it happen today | 16:29 |
| tr3buchet | vishy: i re +2 | 16:29 |
| vishy | tr3buchet: cool thx | 16:29 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: did you get jaypipes's ack for RC2 ? | 16:29 |
| vishy | ttx: I will make sure everything is backported | 16:29 |
| vishy | ttx: i just can't do the cut myself, or else I could do it tomorrow? | 16:30 |
| ttx | vishy: the process is a bit troublesome | 16:30 |
| ttx | vishy: i can do it over the weekend if you greenlight me | 16:30 |
| ttx | it takes just 15min | 16:31 |
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| vishy | ttx: ok i will email you if we are good to go! | 16:31 |
| ttx | sounds good. | 16:31 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: yep | 16:32 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: ok then. I can make it happen now ? | 16:32 |
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| bcwaldon | go for it | 16:32 |
| ttx | yeepee | 16:32 |
| ttx | vishy: note that for two RC2-targeted bugs I mentioned on the bug they might not be that great in the RC at this point | 16:34 |
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| ttx | vishy: The Scheduler default; https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/965732 | 16:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 965732 in nova "Scheduler defaults to fill-first. Spread-first is more intuitive and should be the default" [Medium,Fix committed] | 16:35 |
| tr3buchet | belliott: o/ | 16:36 |
| ttx | and the probably-topo-complex-to-fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/797770 | 16:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 797770 in nova "'Socket closed' during API stress test" [High,In progress] | 16:36 |
| ttx | vishy: up to you if they should stay RC2-targeted. They are both above my paranoid risk threshold. | 16:37 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: actually, will roll Glance RC2 in ~3hours | 16:40 |
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| heckj | chmouel - you up and about? | 16:51 |
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| heckj | ayoung - you around? | 16:53 |
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| ayoung | heckj, yes | 16:53 |
| heckj | am doing a run through the bugs - read through this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/928441 | 16:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 928441 in keystone "document base model types for key elements within Keystone API" [High,Confirmed] | 16:53 |
| heckj | ayoung: I think you rather took care of that with your LDAP branch for identity. Do you agree, or do you think there's more needed there? | 16:53 |
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| ayoung | well, not sure | 16:54 |
| ayoung | it seems like the Model stuff fits the letter of the law | 16:54 |
| ayoung | docstring documentation might not quite be up to it | 16:55 |
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| ayoung | and nothin enforces it in the SQL Identity provider... | 16:55 |
| heckj | So still worth nailing down some abstract base class or something that explicits identifies the things that need to get returned with objects and their relations? Or a doc to that effect in the ReST external to docstrings? | 16:55 |
| ayoung | So I would close that one as fixed, but open another for enforcing the contract with SQL | 16:56 |
| ayoung | that was pretty much what termie suggested in the meeting back then | 16:56 |
| ayoung | let me look at the docstrings, though | 16:57 |
| vishy | ttx: the scheduler was changed from chance which was approximately fill-first about a month ago | 16:57 |
| heckj | sounds good - I'll close it out then. Would you mind opening one on enforcing the contract w/ SQL? I think you've got a better handle on it than I do for describing what needs to get solved. | 16:57 |
| vishy | ttx: so not changing it scares me a lot more | 16:57 |
| adam_g | vishy: pong | 16:57 |
| vishy | ttx: we will probably be forced to leave out https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/797770 although that one annoys me | 16:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 797770 in nova "'Socket closed' during API stress test" [High,In progress] | 16:58 |
| vishy | adam_g: just made a couple reqs on your mysql prop | 16:58 |
| vishy | adam_g: I was going to ask you to update it if you were around so I don't have to do it when I merge | 16:58 |
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| adam_g | vishy: for sure. gimme a few, just got online | 16:59 |
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| heckj | ttx: what's the impact of https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/963478? | 16:59 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 963478 in keystone "Missing files in python-keystoneclient RC1 tarball ?" [High,Confirmed] | 16:59 |
| vishy | wow so unittests are broken on mac | 17:00 |
| vishy | :( | 17:00 |
| vishy | there is no O_DIRECT | 17:00 |
| heckj | and is that something we can fix in the client, or is this something that needs to be tweaked in the tarball creation | 17:00 |
| ayoung | heckj, so identity/model.py only covers User, Tenant and Role. The other Token Catalog endpoint Action and Capability are not covered | 17:01 |
| ayoung | I'd assmue the token stuff would be in keystone/token/modle.py or comparable location | 17:01 |
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| heckj | ayoung: yeah, doesn't appear to exist there | 17:03 |
| ayoung | So...defer to Folsom. I think what we have now is sufficient for an operational Essex. | 17:04 |
| ayoung | I'll update the ticket | 17:04 |
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| heckj | thanks | 17:05 |
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| vishy | comstud: i guess we might have to degrade the socket closed errors down to known issue | 17:15 |
| vishy | comstud: i'm guessing that you can work around it with sufficient load balancing | 17:15 |
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| comstud | vishy: i don't think that'll solve it.. if it's happening in compute talking to things | 17:23 |
| comstud | vishy: But i think degrading it is fine, since it's been around forever | 17:23 |
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| vishy | comstud: looks related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-oops-amqp/+bug/882346 | 17:27 |
| vishy | might have to patch amqp? | 17:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 882346 in python-oops-amqp "IOError exceptions are not caught" [Critical,Fix released] | 17:28 |
| comstud | vishy: Yeah, that's really a more appropriate fix | 17:28 |
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| comstud | however, since we're doing our own reconnecting in nova... | 17:29 |
| comstud | catching IOError ourselves would also work | 17:29 |
| vishy | comstud: lets try it as a workaround and report it upstream | 17:29 |
| vishy | unless it is fixed already in a newer version? | 17:29 |
| comstud | dunno | 17:30 |
| comstud | it's easier to just submit my impl_kombu fix ;) | 17:30 |
| comstud | submit/approve | 17:30 |
| comstud | but I'm waiting more feedback on the bug | 17:30 |
| vishy | comstud: right he hasn't given a new traceback | 17:31 |
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| comstud | vishy: Ya | 17:33 |
| comstud | vishy: Ultimately either of these aren't great fixes to the real problem... | 17:33 |
| comstud | vishy: which seems to be that greenthreads are not getting scheduled quickly enough | 17:33 |
| comstud | vishy: ie, another greenthread is running for too long... or we have too many greenthreads or something. dunno what, though. just not enough pseudo-parallelism in some way, though, i assume. | 17:34 |
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| comstud | (mysql blocking doesn't help) | 17:36 |
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| vishy | comstud: hmm my reading of transport is that recv is getting zero bytes | 17:40 |
| justinsb_ | comstud: We block on DB calls? | 17:40 |
| vishy | comstud: when it expects more bytes, so you are saying that the greenthread that has the socket open on the other end isn't responding and it is timing out? | 17:40 |
| vishy | comstud: I wonder if the flag: MSG_WAITALL wait for full request or error --would have an effect | 17:42 |
| vishy | justinsb_: correct mysql is a c library that is not monkeypatched | 17:42 |
| comstud | vishy: 0 byte recv == EOF.. remote end is closing the socket. | 17:43 |
| comstud | vishy: When I looked at this, rabbit was closing the connection on the client because protocol negotiation was taking too long | 17:43 |
| comstud | vishy: Which means that the client side is not getting to recv() quickly enough. | 17:43 |
| comstud | vishy: When the greenthread is finally scheduled, it reads the EOF | 17:43 |
| comstud | (or well, 0 bytes) | 17:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/keystone failed: don't duplicate the extra dict in extra https://review.openstack.org/5978 | 17:44 |
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| vishy | comstud: interesting, the only place i see IOError raised with that message is in tcp when it gets less bytes than it is expecting | 17:44 |
| comstud | vishy: if the connection was still open, you'd not read 0 bytes... you'd get a -1 response and EAGAIN | 17:44 |
| vishy | ah i see | 17:44 |
| comstud | i suspect if those having this issue go and look at their rabbit logs... | 17:45 |
| comstud | they'll find the timeout in there | 17:45 |
| justinsb_ | vishy: so if someone selects 1.7 million rows... :-) | 17:45 |
| comstud | and rabbit closing the connection | 17:45 |
| vishy | comstud: so increasing the timeout in rabbit might be a workaround | 17:45 |
| comstud | vishy: yes, if that's possible | 17:45 |
| vishy | justinsb_: yes the worker will block | 17:45 |
| comstud | i'm not sure what the default is | 17:45 |
| comstud | but it must be something relatively small | 17:45 |
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| justinsb_ | vishy: But, more problematically, it can throw other code off. Code that might be perfectly correct if run on its own thread. | 17:46 |
| vishy | justinsb_: we tried to make db non-blocking in diablo | 17:46 |
| vishy | failed | 17:46 |
| vishy | justinsb_: and no one has bothered to fix it properly | 17:47 |
| comstud | We should try it again | 17:47 |
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| comstud | I think it was done correctly in the first place.. | 17:47 |
| comstud | but something else weird didn't like it | 17:47 |
| comstud | i was able to get the same sqlalchemy traceback without db pool | 17:47 |
| justinsb_ | I guess it's the same thing with libvirt, or any process call though | 17:47 |
| comstud | by doing something with locks | 17:47 |
| justinsb_ | Any call that takes too long could cause protocol negotiation to time out | 17:47 |
| comstud | and I can't reproduce that issue now | 17:47 |
| comstud | so I wonder if dbpool is also now fixed. | 17:48 |
| comstud | 'fixed' | 17:48 |
| vishy | comstud: something definitely wasn' tworking right | 17:48 |
| vishy | comstud: it would start way more threads than you requested | 17:48 |
| vishy | even with threadpool of one i was seeing 4 threads iirc | 17:49 |
| comstud | oh, okay | 17:49 |
| comstud | yeah, well, that's not quite right | 17:49 |
| vishy | but it may be fixed now | 17:49 |
| comstud | I was more referring to the weird KeyError exception from sqlalchemy | 17:49 |
| comstud | :) | 17:49 |
| justinsb_ | Eventlet = the Windows 3.0 model of multitasking :-) | 17:49 |
| vishy | comstud: who wants to try it ? | 17:49 |
| comstud | justinb: pretty much | 17:49 |
| vishy | justinsb_: lol | 17:49 |
| comstud | +s | 17:49 |
| comstud | I've been thinking of a really bastardized way of doing non-blocking socket stuff for non-python modules | 17:50 |
| comstud | essentially eventlet-like thing that you LD_PRELOAD | 17:51 |
| comstud | replaces socket(), etc. | 17:51 |
| comstud | (libc's socket()) | 17:51 |
| comstud | and the rest of the socket calls. | 17:51 |
| comstud | fun hack-day project | 17:51 |
| sdague | justinsb_: are you working any further on database optimizations at the moment? | 17:52 |
| justinsb_ | comstud: That sounds fun, but really hard! | 17:52 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: I don't think they are going to make Essex, so I'm focusing on my real work! | 17:52 |
| comstud | justinsb: i've done some crazy stuff | 17:52 |
| sdague | justinsb_: fair enough :) | 17:53 |
| comstud | a lot of background in high perf socket i/o multithreaded servers in C | 17:53 |
| justinsb_ | comstud, vishy: I think we need a summit session on this blocking topic generally | 17:53 |
| comstud | i just need time! | 17:53 |
| comstud | y'all have some time you can donate? | 17:53 |
| comstud | vishy: I can see if we can work out trying dbpool here in our environments. | 17:54 |
| comstud | (again) | 17:55 |
| justinsb_ | comstud: If you know high performance C, there are much better ways to apply that knowledge than monkey patching some monkey's driver for a monkey DB ;-) | 17:55 |
| comstud | hahaha | 17:55 |
| sdague | I mostly wanted to make sure I wasn't going to be duplicating work you were doing. I'm actually a little surprised how many non indexed where clauses we've got, though I'd love to understand how big these tables are expected to get to know how bad it really is. | 17:55 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: Yes, I tried prioritizing them based on my guesses. But that's why I really wanted to get logging in to Essex. | 17:56 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: The discussion on that patch wore me out! | 17:56 |
| sdague | justinsb_: fair enough | 17:56 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: As long as everything is in memory, even a huge table shouldn't be too bad | 17:57 |
| vishy | comstud: someone should definitely try it | 17:57 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: And I think it should all be in memory. Certainly not unreasonable to ask for a few Gig of RAM on a DB if you're running something the size of EC2 | 17:57 |
| comstud | vishy: I'll see what we can do.. i know we're rather busy atm.. but we also have a big interest in it | 17:58 |
| vishy | comstud: maybe i can get someone on my team to give it a shot | 17:58 |
| vishy | comstud: i will ask | 17:58 |
| comstud | vishy: okie | 17:58 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: The use of MyISAM does concern me though | 17:58 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: Terrible locking model, terrible persistence model :-) | 17:58 |
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| vishy | davidkranz: are you around to give us a new traceback on that bug? | 18:00 |
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| davidkranz | Yes. I pulled the change yesterday but it was the same. Is there something new? | 18:01 |
| vishy | justinsb_: solution: set the db to innodb by default | 18:01 |
| vishy | davidkranz: we are unconvinced that you are getting the same traceback | 18:01 |
| vishy | davidkranz: you restarted everything in the system with the new code? | 18:01 |
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| vishy | davidkranz: because that should at least give you a different error message if it doesn't fix the problem | 18:01 |
| davidkranz | Ah. I didn't look closely at the trace back when I saw the same socket closed error. I did restart from scratch. | 18:02 |
| davidkranz | I'll do it again now. | 18:02 |
| vishy | davidkranz: great thanks | 18:02 |
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| vishy | justinsb_: that will stop the myiasm table issue :) | 18:02 |
| vishy | *isam | 18:02 |
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| justinsb_ | vishy: I know. But when someone doesn't do that, it won't be themselves they blame. | 18:03 |
| sdague | what if we just force that in a migration? | 18:04 |
| justinsb_ | vishy: And good luck when MyISAM blocks for someone, throws up an timeout somewhere unrelated, but we can't reproduce because all the repro systems are running InnoDB! | 18:04 |
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| justinsb_ | sdague: Yes, we should. But it probably won't make it into Essex. | 18:05 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: I think we can create a 'tuning' SQL script that we can recommend | 18:05 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: And the distros may package that, but OpenStack itself won't | 18:05 |
| sdague | it looks like that was done once with 022_set_engine_mysql_innodb.py, but then tables since then cropped up | 18:05 |
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| justinsb_ | sdague: Yes. Would have been nice to have set a systemwide default in the same patch... | 18:06 |
| sdague | I dislike the idea of optional bits there, because it means lots of bugs because the default isn't that way. | 18:07 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: I agree. Even if the patch is an improvement, forking/fragmentation is bad. | 18:07 |
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| vishy | sdague: we figured setting default table type was not really something that nova should do | 18:11 |
| vishy | sdague: but yeah it would have been nice to make all future tables innodb :( | 18:12 |
| vishy | if we are setting some of them | 18:12 |
| vishy | a new migration to do that? | 18:12 |
| justinsb_ | vishy: Any chance of it getting in to Essex? | 18:13 |
| sdague | vishy: I'd be happy to make the migration, I've also got one out there just to add one of the missing keys justinsb_ identified - https://review.openstack.org/#change,5970 | 18:14 |
| sdague | vishy: I can understand not wanting to change it for the entire environment. | 18:15 |
| sdague | justinsb_: any idea if you can set default engine per database? not really seeing that | 18:15 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: I was thinking sqlalchemy might have a setting. Checking now | 18:16 |
| justinsb_ | Oh goodie. I bet we're not setting mysql_charset either | 18:17 |
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| jaypipes | comstud: heyo. I've done a few rounds of iterative reviews for the Nova multi-process-blueprint submission: https://review.openstack.org/#change,5762. It's looking pretty good now, but I was hoping you could check it out since it does differ a bit from the similar code in Glance and Swift and wanted to make sure you didn't see any further catches to what I brought up in earlier reviews... | 18:22 |
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| comstud | jaypipes: ok. i'll try to hit it here.. crazy busy atm. | 18:23 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: Looks like the best would could do would be to subclass the Table class e.g. OpenstackTable | 18:23 |
| comstud | jaypipes: thnx for heads up, tho. maybe i can get to it in an hour or so | 18:23 |
| comstud | if it's still there :) | 18:23 |
| jaypipes | comstud: yup, no worries mate. I appreciate it. | 18:24 |
| comstud | np | 18:24 |
| justinsb_ | sdague: i.e. not simple enough to bundle into a migration | 18:24 |
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| sdague | justinsb_: well, at least that would be a folsom strategy | 18:43 |
| tr3buchet | vishy: haha, i love they way you taking over these things :D | 18:44 |
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| justinsb_ | vishy: Can you backport sql_logging into Essex pls https://review.openstack.org/#change,5816 | 18:55 |
| justinsb_ | vishy: If we can't fix things, at least we won't be flying blind... | 18:55 |
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| davidkranz | vishy, comstud: No good news. See comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/797770 | 19:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 797770 in nova "'Socket closed' during API stress test" [High,In progress] | 19:46 |
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| ttx | heckj: needs to be tweaked in MANIFEST.in | 20:16 |
| ttx | heckj: impact is minimal | 20:16 |
| ttx | vishy: ack for scheduler | 20:17 |
| heckj | ttx: kk | 20:17 |
| heckj | thanks | 20:17 |
| ttx | heckj: but it's an easy fix if you do RC2 | 20:17 |
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| ttx | heckj: I can propose a fix if nobody else does. Monday | 20:18 |
| * ttx published Glance RC2 | 20:18 | |
| ttx | publishes* | 20:18 |
| russellb | ooh | 20:22 |
| * russellb goes to update Fedora with glance rc2 | 20:22 | |
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| sdague | davidkranz: for kicks, do you have mysql slow query log turned on? would be curious if any ringers came out during the stress tests | 20:27 |
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| ttx | Glance RC2 is in: https://launchpad.net/glance/essex/essex-rc2 | 20:33 |
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| ttx | vishy: about 797770, I'm ok to leave it out. It's been there all cycle, this week is not the right one to realize it needs to be fixed | 20:41 |
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| mikal | Are there any nova core reviewers who aren't vishy around who can review https://review.openstack.org/#change,5799 please? | 22:01 |
| kbringard | oooo vishy slam out of nowhere | 22:02 |
| kbringard | :-p | 22:02 |
| kbringard | have a good weekend friends | 22:03 |
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| vishy | kbringard: :) | 22:58 |
| vishy | justinsb_: we aren't, devstack does though! | 22:59 |
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| vishy | comstud: i'm thinking we just merge your fix. It may not completely fix the problem, but at least it gives us a chance to recover from that error | 23:00 |
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| jeblair | vishy: https://github.com/openstack-dev/sandbox | 23:09 |
| jeblair | vishy: there's a sandbox project for dev tooling workshops | 23:09 |
| jeblair | it's hooked up to gerrit and jenkins just like the rest. and anyone in openstack-cla can approve changes | 23:10 |
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| vishy | jeblair: woot thx | 23:20 |
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