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| davidha | notmyname: hi | 04:55 |
| notmyname | davidha: good evening | 04:55 |
| davidha | notmyname; is there somewhere a description how chunked is supported? Once it arrives at the proxy and how it is processed + delivered to the object server? The code is a bit confusing there. | 04:58 |
| notmyname | davidha: I doubt there is a description to that level of detail anywhere. "just look at the code" would be the default answer :-) | 04:59 |
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| davidha | When a proxy receives a chunked body, what is suppose to be sent to the object server? | 05:00 |
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| davidha | a chunked body as well? | 05:01 |
| notmyname | ya. the proxy doesn't buffer anything. it sends chunks as it gets them from the client | 05:03 |
| notmyname | what part of the code are you looking at? proxy object PUTs? | 05:03 |
| davidha | yep proxy PUTs | 05:04 |
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| davidha | so the objetc server also supports chunked body by simply - and needs to extract the chunk size off the body - right? | 05:06 |
| notmyname | davidha: I'd have to look at the webob code again, but IIRC webob abstracts whether the client is using chunked encoding or not. IOW, webob simply provides the request object that has a read() | 05:09 |
| davidha | So what happends with the last chunk (zero) | 05:10 |
| davidha | Why is it that it is being produced at te proxy? | 05:10 |
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| davidha | Seems like the chunked support is subdivided between eventlet.wsgi, webbob, swift code in a some way that is not documented anywhere | 05:12 |
| vanchester12416 | notmyname, hi. I have another question about object auditor again... | 05:12 |
| vanchester12416 | notmyname, can you look at the code? | 05:12 |
| vanchester12416 | in the object_audit function: when we found a quarantined directory why do we increment quarantines but not returning? In this way we also increment passes. Why? | 05:14 |
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| notmyname | davidha: not sure I follow. webob presents a file-like object for the request. the proxy sends the chunks to the object server. | 05:17 |
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| davidha | proxy also includes code to add chunk size fields to chunks conn.queue.put('%x\r\n%s\r\n' % (len(chunk), chunk) | 05:18 |
| davidha | does webob strip it when a body is received but failes to add it when a body is sent? | 05:19 |
| notmyname | vanchester12416: honestly, I don't know. at first glance it looks like a bug, but I'm not sure. git blame says david goetz wrote that part. fortunately I sit next to him every day, so I'll have to ask him tomorrow | 05:19 |
| notmyname | davidha: ah. the proxy isn't using webob to send that data to the object server. it's using a "normal" http connection | 05:20 |
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| vanchester12416 | notmyname, thank you. It really looks like a bug. | 05:21 |
| notmyname | davidha: so therefore it has to send the chunk size (as per the spec for chunked encoding) | 05:21 |
| notmyname | davidha: so webob (I think) simply understands the incoming http data stream and presents it as an object with a read() method in the request | 05:22 |
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| notmyname | vanchester12416: I'm not sure it is | 05:24 |
| vanchester12416 | notmyname, me too | 05:24 |
| davidha | So, why deviate on when sending? Is there a limitation there with webob? This entire behaviour deviates from what a wsgi application suppose to do - but than chunked support of httpd is also deviating from the standard to be efficient | 05:25 |
| notmyname | vanchester12416: notice that that block doesn't call quarantine_renamer() | 05:25 |
| davidha | notmyname: *why deviate from the same scheme (using webob) when sending?... | 05:26 |
| vanchester12416 | notmyname, yes, but we marked that we found quarantine so why do we also mark passes? | 05:26 |
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| vanchester12416 | notmyname, anyway, it just rely on outcome statistic, so it's just a principal question: do we need to mark quarantined dirs as passed? :) | 05:28 |
| davidha | notmyname: actually I do not think it matters in this case as the wsgi application, when sending a request is behaving as a client and it is decoupled from its behaviour as a wsgi application - still some fine details need to be worked out to make the wsgi interface of chunked aligned between the two implementations | 05:28 |
| notmyname | vanchester12416: I think it has to do with how DiskFile is implemented. it may be that the df operations are handling the quarantine (but that doesn't explain the passes +=1) | 05:29 |
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| chmouel | notmyname: I have re-merged 7628 | 08:22 |
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| chmouel | rebased even | 08:22 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: thx | 11:59 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: we should be good to go once that hits. | 11:59 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: or should we also backport bug 1003470 ? | 12:03 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1003470 in glance "glance-api fails to start (invalid schema-image.json)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1003470 | 12:03 |
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| ttx | and/or bug 1003470 | 12:03 |
| ttx | err, I mean bug 1003504 | 12:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1003504 in glance "glance-api now requires sql_ configs in conf file" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1003504 | 12:04 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: its not required, but I guess it would be nice to have | 12:09 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: its just sample config, so its not breaking anything | 12:10 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: i can backport those two for your approval pleasure. | 12:10 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: and only matters for the v2 api | 12:10 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: sure, we might as well | 12:10 |
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| ttx | on it | 12:10 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance+branch:milestone-proposed,n,z | 12:17 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: approved both | 12:18 |
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| bcwaldon | mtaylor: marco | 13:02 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: bit of a problem here | 13:03 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: hm? | 13:04 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: glance pep8 is failing on those milestone-proposed branches we approved | 13:04 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: but there are no pep8 errors | 13:04 |
| ttx | no milestone is fun without strange CI failures | 13:05 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: ^ | 13:05 |
| bcwaldon | or jeblair or LinuxJedi ^ | 13:05 |
| bcwaldon | https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-glance-pep8/855/ | 13:05 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: I've yet to see one milestone or release where the tooling would just work (to the point where it could be automated) | 13:05 |
| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: this could be the same problem keystone was having, looking into it | 13:05 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: :( | 13:06 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: thanks! | 13:06 |
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| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: yep, you are failing the new version of pep8: http://paste.openstack.org/show/18147/ | 13:07 |
| annegentle | ttx or bcwaldon could you approve Puneet Sangal on https://launchpad.net/~openstack-cla/+members#proposed I see him on the Contributrors page of the wiki now. | 13:08 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: blargh | 13:08 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: what version is that? | 13:08 |
| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: 1.1 | 13:08 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: we peg pep8 at 0.6.1 | 13:08 |
| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: not in tox.ini you don't | 13:09 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: le sigh, we do in tools/test-requires | 13:09 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: is that dep ignored, now? | 13:09 |
| Daviey | bcwaldon: i'm prepping a merge to fix that, but if you want to beat me, i won't be upset. | 13:09 |
| bcwaldon | Daviey: go for it | 13:10 |
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| bcwaldon | Daviey: I'm curious what the fix is here | 13:10 |
| ttx | LinuxJedi: that same fix passed the master gate though | 13:10 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: passed *yesterday* might be key, since the bundle got rebuilt this morning, I think | 13:11 |
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| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: I think that dep is for the py tests, where as the dep in tox.ini is for the thing actually running the tests (which is different) | 13:11 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: hmm, still doesnt explain how we got through the gate the other day | 13:12 |
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| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: and the job isnt reporting the errors, either | 13:12 |
| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: so in tox.ini under [testenv:pep8] it probably needs to be "deps = pep8==0.6.1" or something | 13:12 |
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| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: I'm not sure when 1.1 was released. And yes, not reporting the errors is a bug | 13:13 |
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| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: 5 hours ago | 13:13 |
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| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: that is when all hell broke lose :) | 13:14 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: yep :( | 13:14 |
| Daviey | bcwaldon: sigh, i thought it was just a case of adding test-requires. | 13:14 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: I agree with the new policies its introducing, but this is frustrating... | 13:14 |
| Daviey | is this hitting trunk aswell? | 13:14 |
| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: oh totally. Not something easy to predict :( | 13:14 |
| Daviey | my issue was with the stable branches? | 13:14 |
| Daviey | s/?// | 13:15 |
| bcwaldon | Daviey: ah, we're seeing it with milestone-proposed (and I assume master) glance right now | 13:15 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: I can run 'tox -e pep8' and pass locally | 13:15 |
| LinuxJedi | Daviey: all pep8 tests from now on will be against that version unless tox specifies something different, so if trunk violates, it will fail | 13:15 |
| Daviey | bcwaldon: pep8 version? | 13:15 |
| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: with 1.1? | 13:15 |
| bcwaldon | no idea how to tell | 13:15 |
| Daviey | LinuxJedi: perhaps i am being daft, but what does tox.ini provide? | 13:16 |
| LinuxJedi | Daviey: pep8 --version | 13:16 |
| Daviey | bcwaldon: ^^ | 13:16 |
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| bcwaldon | Daviey: it takes the place of our run_tests.py and with_venv stiff | 13:16 |
| bcwaldon | stuff* | 13:16 |
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| bcwaldon | Daviey: definitely useful, we're just in a bit of a painful transition period | 13:16 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: How do I get into the venv that tox builds? | 13:16 |
| dprince | So what is the deal with pep8? | 13:17 |
| dprince | I went to bed and everything was pep8 happy. Now the world has ended. | 13:17 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: we're having the discussion right now | 13:17 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: pep8 1.1 was released last night | 13:17 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: added new rules | 13:17 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: Ah. I see. | 13:17 |
| bcwaldon | ah, if I blow away .tox/, I can reproduce it | 13:18 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: Can we just nail it to the old version then? | 13:18 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: yes, we *did* in tools/test-requires, but apparently tox doesnt look at that for pep8 versions | 13:18 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: Until we get things up to speed? | 13:18 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: yes, thats the plan | 13:18 |
| bcwaldon | I'll have a branch for glance up shortly | 13:18 |
| * dprince doesn't use tox yet. | 13:18 | |
| Daviey | bcwaldon: i mean, we have some duplication between tox.ini and test-requires. Having declarations in one place is clearly superior | 13:18 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: kk. | 13:18 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: you should! I like it quite a bit | 13:18 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: on the list. Just haven't gotten there. | 13:19 |
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| dprince | bcwaldon: I'm gonna look at nova then... | 13:19 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: kk | 13:19 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: 'tox -e pep8' to test | 13:20 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: and delete your local .tox/ if you have it | 13:20 |
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| bcwaldon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7746/ | 13:21 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: which version of pep8 do we want? | 13:21 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi, dprince: ^ | 13:21 |
| dprince | gotcha | 13:21 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: peg it at whatever is in tools/test-requires | 13:22 |
| * dprince turns crank.... waits for tests. | 13:22 | |
| bcwaldon | dprince: go approve that glance patch while youre waiting ;) | 13:22 |
| LinuxJedi | I believe keystone is using 0.6.1, but anything before 1.1 sohuld be good, the new rules are in that | 13:23 |
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| bcwaldon | yep, I'll get a patch up after this to move on to 1.1 | 13:23 |
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| LinuxJedi | FYI, I filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1003941 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1003942 | 13:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1003941 in openstack-ci "New pep8 not reporting back errors correctly" [High,New] | 13:24 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: thank you, sir | 13:25 |
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| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: I'll talk to mtaylor and jeblair on it further when they are online | 13:25 |
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| ttx | LinuxJedi: could we unblock milestone-proposed in some hackish way ? I kinda need those patches in now | 13:25 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: we've got a path forward | 13:25 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: just approve my glance review | 13:26 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: then backport to m-p | 13:26 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: then we can rekick the others | 13:26 |
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| ttx | ayeaye | 13:26 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: unless you need it faster? | 13:26 |
| ttx | can wait one hour | 13:26 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: ok, I'll make sure it happens | 13:26 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: approved. | 13:27 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: thanks | 13:27 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: Do we need to do anything for users of run_test.sh too? | 13:27 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: nope | 13:27 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: I think that uses test-requires | 13:27 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: not 100% sure, though | 13:27 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: For nova I think we need to nail it there as well. | 13:28 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: ok, you got it? | 13:28 |
| ttx | dprince: slightly less urgent, but yes. | 13:28 |
| LinuxJedi | ttx: not in a good way (like maybe disabling pep8 check and gate for a few minutes?). I really don't like the idea of doing that though... | 13:28 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: sure. | 13:28 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: dont worry aboot it | 13:29 |
| ttx | LinuxJedi: let's try to do it properly. If all else fails we'll flip into weirdmode | 13:29 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: I'll do the subsequent pep8 1.1 updates for nova | 13:29 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: I've got it now... | 13:30 |
| bcwaldon | ok | 13:30 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: sorry. You mean actually fixing things. | 13:30 |
| bcwaldon | yes | 13:30 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: go for it! | 13:30 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: okie dokie | 13:30 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: you might want to lock nova at 1.0.1 | 13:31 |
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| dprince | bcwaldon: Is that what it was at before? | 13:32 |
| dprince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7748/ | 13:32 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: it was at >=1.0, which was just 1.0.1 until today | 13:33 |
| * dprince takes forever to build a fresh venv! | 13:33 | |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: 1.0.1 is what nova was using until 1.1 was released | 13:33 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: so that makes the most sense | 13:33 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: I'll change it. Is there a ticket for this BTW? | 13:33 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: nope | 13:33 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: sorry about test-requires not fixing the pep8 issue ... there's a tox optimiztion in place there ... but we're going to get rid of that optimization real-soon-now | 13:34 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: (we were just discussing fixing/changing/removing it yesterda) | 13:34 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: will we end up with the pep8 dep back in tools/test-requires, or will it be in tox.ini? | 13:35 |
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| mtaylor | back in test-requires | 13:35 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: ok | 13:35 |
| dprince | mtaylor: Nice. If it already did that then Glance wouldn't have broken since it already nails pep8 to 0.6.1 in test-requires. | 13:36 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: other fun for today is that I can't run python-glanceclient tests... | 13:36 |
| mtaylor | dprince: yeah. the system has become too complex and is ready for pruning | 13:36 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: YIPPEE | 13:36 |
| dprince | mtaylor: Nova however was living dangerously with >= | 13:36 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: since tox apparently can't install the venv with the zipball changes from yesterday | 13:36 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: do you have another patchset coming for nova? | 13:37 |
| LinuxJedi | dprince: we like living on the edge ;) | 13:37 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: what? that's super weird... it worked for me yesterday ... lemme work on fixing | 13:37 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: yeah...me too | 13:37 |
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| bcwaldon | mtaylor: http://paste.openstack.org/show/18150/ | 13:37 |
| mtaylor | btw - tox - great in theory, using it at the scale we do ... not as happy as I'd like to be | 13:37 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: oh. my. holy. crap. I. am. going. to. kill. something. | 13:38 |
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| bcwaldon | mtaylor: you're telling me... | 13:38 |
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| LinuxJedi | mtaylor: is that paste the git URL problem? | 13:38 |
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| mtaylor | kinda | 13:39 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: its a NEW problem!!! | 13:39 |
| bcwaldon | yay | 13:39 |
| * ttx taks a break while Jenkins digests changes | 13:39 | |
| dprince | bcwaldon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7749/ | 13:39 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: you probably dont want to be here for this anyways :) | 13:39 |
| LinuxJedi | ok, just when I thought this day couldn't get worse! :) | 13:39 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: real quick | 13:39 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: are you nova-core? | 13:40 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: yes? | 13:40 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: god forbid. Not looking into extra work right now | 13:40 |
| bcwaldon | we need another +2a on dan's patch for nova | 13:40 |
| bcwaldon | before that blows up | 13:40 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: ^ | 13:40 |
| ttx | saw markmc not far | 13:40 |
| mtaylor | I'm not nova-core anymore | 13:40 |
| bcwaldon | curses | 13:41 |
| * markmc looks | 13:41 | |
| bcwaldon | whew | 13:41 |
| bcwaldon | I was just gonna do it live | 13:41 |
| ttx | we need to recruit more EU or East coast nova-core, now that we lost soren | 13:41 |
| bcwaldon | approve it muself | 13:41 |
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| markmc | dprince, 2 Change-Ids? | 13:41 |
| bcwaldon | crap, howd i miss that! | 13:41 |
| dprince | ETOOMANYWINDOWS this morning. | 13:41 |
| dprince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7749/ | 13:41 |
| bcwaldon | haha | 13:41 |
| dprince | markmc: ^^ | 13:42 |
| bcwaldon | dprince: you have two change-ids in the commit msg | 13:42 |
| markmc | dprince, also, add something like "new pep8 was released, broke stuff" | 13:42 |
| dprince | one sec. | 13:42 |
| markmc | dprince, i.e. the "why" | 13:42 |
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| markmc | dprince, also, add something like "pep8 1.1 was released, broke stuff" | 13:43 |
| dprince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7749/ | 13:43 |
| dprince | All fixed up. | 13:44 |
| * markmc +2ed | 13:44 | |
| bcwaldon | dprince: on its way in | 13:44 |
| LinuxJedi | although really, we should at some point be testing trunks against 1.1. I don't see the new rules as being bad, just a pain they happened right now | 13:44 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: I'm working on that | 13:45 |
| bcwaldon | I dont think we can ride latest pep8 anymore, so we're going to have to peg it in every single project | 13:45 |
| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: awesome | 13:45 |
| bcwaldon | LinuxJedi: there are about 2 dozen errors I'm working through right now | 13:45 |
| LinuxJedi | bcwaldon: ah, fail :( | 13:45 |
| dprince | bcwaldon: Hey. So when you actually fix the new pep8 issues... we should always nail pep8 IMO. So you'd just nail it to the newer version right? | 13:45 |
| markmc | dprince, see, Daviey had a nicer commit message :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7747/ | 13:45 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: yep, you and I are on the same page | 13:45 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: then why dont you marry him! | 13:46 |
| markmc | bcwaldon, he's english :( | 13:46 |
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| bcwaldon | we roll hard and fast over here | 13:46 |
| markmc | why don't ye get married then? :) | 13:46 |
| bcwaldon | the time difference would never work out | 13:46 |
| bcwaldon | the relationship wouldnt last | 13:46 |
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| mtaylor | bcwaldon: I have no idea how that patch worked for us yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/7750 | 13:47 |
| dprince | markmc: I like to keep things short. | 13:47 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: you and I both, my friend | 13:47 |
| markmc | dprince, I like to know why people did stuff when I look at the history :) | 13:47 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: especially because you and I and jeblair all tested it by hand :) | 13:48 |
| bcwaldon | ...yep | 13:48 |
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| dprince | markmc: point taken. Hey on Mr. Walkers keystone review... Doesn't that chnage need to land in upstream first? | 13:50 |
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| markmc | dprince, point taken :) | 13:50 |
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| bcwaldon | dprince: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7751/ | 13:59 |
| bcwaldon | markmc, LinuxJedi ^ | 13:59 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon, dprince: I thought that 1.1 also wasn't reporting the errors properly? | 14:00 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: the jenkins job isnt reporting errors properly | 14:00 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: pep8 is doing its job just fine | 14:01 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: oh, STELLAR | 14:01 |
| markmc | 1. remove whitespace | 14:01 |
| markmc | 2. .... | 14:01 |
| markmc | 3. profit! | 14:01 |
| bcwaldon | indeed :) | 14:02 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: progress ? | 14:04 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: waiting on merges | 14:05 |
| ttx | ok | 14:05 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: necessary branches are lined up | 14:05 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: we might have screwed ourselves with all these patches now | 14:06 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: we'll have to wait hours for all the devstack runs to complete :/ | 14:06 |
| ttx | ... good thing my /other/ tarballs are all up | 14:06 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: :) - well, we have a fix for _that_ coming in a day or two ... but we didn't want to roll out new things right before milestone day | 14:07 |
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| mtaylor | because ttx kills us when we do that | 14:07 |
| bcwaldon | but it always seems to happen anyways... | 14:07 |
| ttx | mtaylor: I usually kill you anyway, but that gives me a good reason to | 14:07 |
| bcwaldon | ursed pep8 | 14:07 |
| mtaylor | ++ | 14:07 |
| bcwaldon | cursed! | 14:07 |
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| * ttx is always looking for someone to take the blame on release days | 14:08 | |
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| mtaylor | ttx: one of these days we're going to have a release day that has no drama | 14:08 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: i hope to see that in my lifetime. | 14:08 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: tox change merged | 14:31 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: backport ? | 14:32 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: yep on it | 14:32 |
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| ttx | will approve then | 14:32 |
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| ttx | (once you give me link) | 14:32 |
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| * ttx will start to publish Folsom-1 in 30 min | 14:33 | |
| bcwaldon | ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7755/ | 14:33 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: feel free to approve | 14:33 |
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| Kiall | Folsom-1 time already? That was fast! | 14:34 |
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| LinuxJedi | ttx: do we have a half-second abort option like SpaceX did? ;) | 14:34 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: done | 14:35 |
| ttx | Kiall: http://wiki.openstack.org/FolsomReleaseSchedule | 14:35 |
| ttx | LinuxJedi: given that the process is actually a list of consecutive processes, no. | 14:36 |
| Kiall | ttx, sure, I had meant "time flies"! | 14:36 |
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| mnaser | anyone from core can take a look at this to try and get it approved? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7605/ | 14:43 |
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| mnaser | also this has one code review and a +1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7643/ | 14:45 |
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| * ttx needs a "ignore jobs from anyone but me" setting on jenkins for release days | 14:45 | |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: I need that every day | 14:46 |
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| mnaser | dprince: I haven't made one, would you prefer I write up something? | 14:47 |
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| dprince | mnaser: Its nice to have a bug and/or BP for tracking purposes. | 14:48 |
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| mnaser | dprince: ok, I will do that, and should I append and change the commit message to link to said bug? | 14:48 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-glance-pep8/860/console | 14:49 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: why... | 14:49 |
| dprince | mnaser: That would be good. | 14:49 |
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| bcwaldon | mtaylor: OH | 14:50 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: ignore me | 14:50 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: still waiting on the milestone-proposed patch to land | 14:50 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: yep | 14:50 |
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| bcwaldon | whew, I was worried | 14:50 |
| * ttx starts F1 publication, using quantum as the first victim | 14:52 | |
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| mnaser | dprince: fixedorz :) | 14:54 |
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| ttx | next up: Keystone | 15:01 |
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| sandywalsh_ | jeblair: thanks ... jenkins was the part I was missing! | 15:02 |
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| ttx | next up: Nova | 15:06 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: as nova-acting-ptl any last-minute objection to pushing Nova f1 out ? | 15:07 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: not at all | 15:08 |
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| mtaylor | bcwaldon: wow, you're nova ptl today too? | 15:12 |
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| ttx | too late, it's out | 15:12 |
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| bcwaldon | mtaylor: I do what I want | 15:13 |
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| * ttx does Horizon now | 15:14 | |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: looks like I've the time to get a beer before jenkins digests those three changes | 15:17 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'm watching it for you | 15:18 |
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| Daviey | markmc: Hey, so - the reason to pin to an older version, is because the latest version picks up on whitespace pep8 violations that the previous version missed. It feels less appropriate to fix whitespace issues that were released as 'ok', than it does to pin to the version that was developed against. | 15:24 |
| markmc | Daviey, right, understood | 15:24 |
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| markmc | Daviey, 1.1 is the version with those issues | 15:24 |
| markmc | Daviey, 1.0.1 is fine AFAIK | 15:24 |
| markmc | Daviey, 0.6.1 is fairly ancient | 15:24 |
| markmc | Daviey, glance and nova pinned to 1.0.1 | 15:25 |
| Daviey | markmc: but the issue is sorta wider than that.. it concerns me the thought to jump to new major versions of dependencies, that weren't part of the devel cycle. | 15:25 |
| Daviey | markmc: ah, i see your point. | 15:25 |
| markmc | Daviey, agree on the wider issue | 15:25 |
| Daviey | markmc: Hmm, ok.. if 1.0.1 passes ok.. that seems reasonable.. shall we bump to that? | 15:25 |
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| markmc | Daviey, yep, think so - need it on master first though | 15:26 |
| Daviey | markmc: well, i saw it as a CI enablement change.. which was why i didn't push forward first.. but yes, it is appropriate for trunk aswell. | 15:26 |
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| markmc | Daviey, yep, saw it similarly which is why I approved - dprince made the fair point re: master first | 15:27 |
| Daviey | ok | 15:27 |
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| Daviey | markmc: do you feel something like pep8 versioning should be handled by openstack-common? | 15:29 |
| mtaylor | well, actually most things should have been testing through CI on 1.0.1 | 15:29 |
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| mtaylor | Daviey: we have a todo list item for a single consistent project-wide dep list | 15:30 |
| mtaylor | we have a few things we have to land first before we can implement that though | 15:30 |
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| Daviey | mtaylor: by accident it seems.. test-requirements not matching tox | 15:30 |
| mtaylor | yes. that is a bug that will get fixed | 15:30 |
| markmc | Daviey, some early days discussion at the summit: http://etherpad.openstack.org/FolsomDependencyManagement | 15:30 |
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| Daviey | So.. is the consensus that 1.1 should be set for Folsom? | 15:31 |
| Daviey | markmc: thanks | 15:31 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: why can't I kill this job? https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/4325/ | 15:32 |
| mtaylor | bcwaldon: you did | 15:32 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: that review got double-approved and its already passed/merged | 15:32 |
| bcwaldon | mtaylor: hrm, took a while to react | 15:32 |
| mtaylor | yeah - it's an async queue | 15:32 |
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| notmyname | chmouel: FYI, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7401/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7426/ are the only outstanding patches needed for swift 1.5.0 | 15:35 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: where do we stand on milestone releases? we've got some jenkins job improvements we're wanting to roll out, but wanted to wait until milestones were released | 15:41 |
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| clayg | jgriffith: are the cinder meetings happening like... nowish or is my utc conversion wrong? | 16:33 |
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| rnirmal | clayg: they were yesterday at 11 am Central time... but no one showed up | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | clayg: Nope, Wed's | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | clayg: grab the ics from the meetings wiki page and it'll update everything on your cal for you | 16:34 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: all in ? | 16:35 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: looks like it | 16:35 |
| ttx | mtaylor: almost there | 16:36 |
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| * ttx checks | 16:37 | |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: ok for glance=2d5e38e93324975dc5c77e2a88a63f9ed95be909 ? | 16:39 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: indeed | 16:39 |
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| ttx | ok, i'm on it | 16:40 |
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| clayg | they _used_ to be on thursday tho right? | 16:41 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: done | 16:44 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: I'm done, unless shithappens[tm] | 16:47 |
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| russellb | comstud: this one would be good for you to look over if you have the time. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7590/ | 16:49 |
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| comstud | russellb: hm yea | 16:49 |
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| comstud | thnx | 16:49 |
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| russellb | comstud: yep np | 16:50 |
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| jgriffith | clayg: Yeah, but we couldn't get an earlier time slot on Thursdays remember? | 16:52 |
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| jgriffith | clayg: You were even the only person to respond to the reschedule notice email I sent out :) | 16:53 |
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| russellb | comstud: in short, lets you create a consumer where the queue name is != routing key, so that you can have more than one consumer get every message for the same routing key. Use case: receivers of notifications | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: add queue name argument to TopicConsumer https://review.openstack.org/7590 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Verification of a change to openstack/nova failed: Expose a limited networks API for users https://review.openstack.org/7605 | 17:16 |
| dtroyer | bcwaldon: when your release fun settles down can you have a look at a couple of simple devstack commits? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7566/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7757/ | 17:19 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: awesome | 17:21 |
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| bcwaldon | dtroyer: the fix related to qpid/rabbit | 17:26 |
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| bcwaldon | dtroyer: rabbit is on by default, and supplying qpid is really just an override, yes? | 17:26 |
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| dtroyer | yes; the problem is that the rabbit host and password are required on all hosts | 17:27 |
| dtroyer | the previous change made it selecting on rabbit in ENABLED_SERVICES. so it broke in compute-only hosts | 17:28 |
| bcwaldon | dtroyer: ok, should we block on filing a bug for this? | 17:28 |
| bcwaldon | dtroyer: I'm leaning towards yes | 17:28 |
| mnaser | I'm not very good with Git… I was told this required a rebase, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7605/ -- Can someone just let me know if I properly rebased it or not? | 17:29 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: appears that you did it correctly | 17:29 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: sweet, thanks! | 17:30 |
| bcwaldon | mnaser: patchset 3 depends on a different commit than patchset 2 | 17:30 |
| dtroyer | bcwaldon: fwiw we haven't been too strict about that in the past | 17:30 |
| bcwaldon | dtroyer: ok, then I'll just approve | 17:30 |
| dtroyer | bcwaldon: thx. | 17:30 |
| mnaser | bcwaldon: ah I see it there now, and the commit is the last one so I guess it went OK | 17:30 |
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| winston-d | i got some weird problem with 'git review'. everytime i made some changes to address reviewer's comment, and 'git commit --amend', and then 'git review', all my changes are gone. does anybody know why? | 17:41 |
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| mtaylor | winston-d: that seems very weird | 17:44 |
| mtaylor | winston-d: when you do git commit --amend, have you made sure to do git add on the files first? or else do git commit -a --amend? | 17:45 |
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| winston-d | mtaylor, yes i do. i even do a git diff to generate a patch file locally. | 17:46 |
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| winston-d | mtaylor, do you have any idea how i can fix this? | 17:51 |
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| clarkb | are the changes present before running git review but after the commit? | 17:54 |
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| winston-d | clarkb, pardon? yes, changes are present before running git reivew, but then gone after git review. | 17:56 |
| mtaylor | winston-d: SO - a) what version of git review are you using? (git review --version) b) could you go through the sequence again, each time you run git review add -v to it so that it will spit out all of its commands, and then paste the console log to paste.openstack.org? I have literally no idea how the changes would be going away and I'd like to figure that out | 18:01 |
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| winston-d | mtaylor, i'm using git review 1.16 on fedora 17 | 18:03 |
| winston-d | mtaylor, i'm doing b) now. will post to paste.openstack.org once i've done. | 18:05 |
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| winston-d | mtaylor, this time it works. http://paste.openstack.org/show/18160/ | 18:10 |
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| winston-d | mtaylor, but i think last time my sequence of command is: 'git co master; git pull; git co bp/TOPIC; git pull origin master; make changes; git add; git ci --amend; git review' | 18:12 |
| winston-d | mtaylor, and this time, i didn't do git pull stuff. does that matter? | 18:12 |
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| mtaylor | winston-d: might. pull, btw, it dangerous in our context, as it can generate merge commits which we disallow | 18:32 |
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| bcwaldon | Vek: time for a review? | 18:32 |
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| cp16net | jgriffith: hey i had to make a fix to the volume db code | 18:32 |
| cp16net | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7764/ | 18:32 |
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| bcwaldon | s1rp: or do you have time for a review? | 18:34 |
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| bcwaldon | or jk0 !? | 18:35 |
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| winston-d | mtaylor, then what is the correct procedure for a short term branch but takes long time to get reviewed? | 18:38 |
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| mtaylor | git co bp/TOPIC ; git remote update origin ; git rebase -i origin/master | 18:40 |
| mtaylor | or, instead of git remote update origin, you can do git fetch origin | 18:40 |
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| winston-d | mtaylor, but git rebase is needed, right? | 18:41 |
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| mtaylor | yeah. that sticks your changes on top of the new stuff in origin/master | 18:42 |
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| s1rp | bcwaldon: sure, link? | 18:43 |
| bcwaldon | s1rp: already taken care of, thanks though | 18:43 |
| s1rp | bcwaldon: k | 18:43 |
| winston-d | mtaylor, thx! | 18:44 |
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| vanchester12416 | hello, did someone had troubles with installing swift to virtualenv? | 19:03 |
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| maoy | jaypipes: ping | 19:15 |
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| maoy | jaypipes or others: is there any pylint checking done in jenkins as a guard? | 19:16 |
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| jaypipes | maoy: used to be, but not anymore... was too false-negative-y | 19:17 |
| maoy | jaypipes: ok. | 19:18 |
| maoy | jaypipes: a few obvious bugs i can see from pylint output. so just wondering | 19:18 |
| jaypipes | maoy: yeah, agreed... | 19:19 |
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| chmouel | notmyname: I just +1 them | 19:22 |
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| jgriffith | cp16net: what's up? | 19:29 |
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| cp16net | i updated the volume stuff | 19:31 |
| jgriffith | cp16net: Yeah, looking at it now... | 19:31 |
| cp16net | i found a bug with the volume_update | 19:31 |
| cp16net | i was just looking over it with rnirmal | 19:31 |
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| jgriffith | cp16net: cool... so what happens to the volume_destroy call? | 19:33 |
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| jgriffith | cp16net: NM... I see | 19:34 |
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| cp16net | jgriffith: i was following the pattern that instances use. I removed those print statements.. :-/ | 20:00 |
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| jgriffith | cp16net: :) | 20:02 |
| jgriffith | cp16net: One other question, did you intend to remove the volume_destroy call in test_cloud.py? | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | cp16net: 2125 | 20:03 |
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| jgriffith | cp16net: Other than that it think it looks good | 20:06 |
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| maoy | jaypipes: is there a simple script to run pylint against every file? or i have to run the xargs magic? | 20:11 |
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| jaypipes | maoy: been a while.. gimme a sec | 20:16 |
| jaypipes | maoy: have you tried running: pylint nova | 20:17 |
| jaypipes | ? | 20:17 |
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| jaypipes | maoy: should pylint-check all modules in nova/ dir | 20:17 |
| maoy | ha | 20:17 |
| maoy | didn't know that | 20:17 |
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| maoy | jaypipes: thanks. | 20:18 |
| zaitcev | Is it possible to run Swift functional tests against an instance with Keystone? | 20:18 |
| zaitcev | Seems like it expects v1 | 20:18 |
| maoy | jaypipes: it fails miserably though. :p | 20:18 |
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| jaypipes | maoy: well I didn't say it would *work*! :P | 20:21 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair: ping | 20:25 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: pong | 20:25 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair: so the gate-tempest-devstack-vm job is failing a lot now.. turns out the 60 minute timeout is now being exceeded pretty regularly. | 20:25 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: what do you think we should set it to? | 20:26 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: funny thing is, tempest is only taking marginally more time to complete... it's devstack that is taking forever to set up the env. | 20:26 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: it's not devstack's fault, it's the providers for giving us slow virtual machines | 20:26 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: well, yeah :_) | 20:26 |
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| jeblair | jaypipes: https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-devstack-vm/838/consoleFull | 20:29 |
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| jeblair | that one looks like it was 20/40 devstack, tempest (which didn't finish) | 20:30 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: that seem typical? | 20:30 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair: well, anything using the rackspace-nova node provider is about 3 times slower than the other node providers... I'm looking at 837 now. | 20:30 |
| jaypipes | which is hp az2 | 20:30 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair: and devstack takes 23 minutes to complete, the devstack exercises take 3 minutes, and tempest takes 40 minutes... | 20:32 |
| maoy | comstud: ping | 20:32 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: problem is I see a bunch of ERROR output at the end of the tempest output that makes me think something is majorly wrong. | 20:33 |
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| jog0 | is anyone working on getting swift working again in devstack? It broke after swift3 was pulled out | 20:34 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: I'm looking at the syslog artifacts... looks like the scheduler is the source of the errors...https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-devstack-vm/837/artifact/logs/screen-n-sch.txt | 20:34 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: seeing a bunch of "Failed to schedule_run_instance: No valid host was found" | 20:35 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: I'm not a nova guy. :( | 20:35 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: I'm going to do some further research... might be the tempest test is simply asking too much of the VM | 20:35 |
| notmyname | jog0: I don't have an answer, but I've sent an email to find an answer | 20:36 |
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| jeblair | jaypipes: i just checked the node that's running #839, it currently has about 3 out of 4G of ram free, and is not using swap. fwiwi. | 20:37 |
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| jeblair | jaypipes: i'll up the timeout to 90 mins? | 20:37 |
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| jog0 | notmyname: thanks. The offending line appears to be https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/files/swift/proxy-server.conf#L43 | 20:41 |
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| comstud | maoy: pong | 20:49 |
| maoy | comstud: could you help me to understand the rebuild API in Nova? it doesn't exist in EC2. | 20:50 |
| comstud | yeah | 20:50 |
| maoy | comstud: how is it different from creating a new VM with the same parameter? | 20:50 |
| comstud | essentially, you keep the same networking information | 20:50 |
| mnaser | Am I hallucinating or there was a blueprint for implementing XenServer console in Nova... | 20:50 |
| comstud | and I think that's about it | 20:50 |
| maoy | comstud: oh.. | 20:51 |
| comstud | mnaser: there's been xenserver console support for quite a while... although it changed a bit ago | 20:51 |
| mnaser | comstud: by console, I meant like the "console output", server logs | 20:51 |
| comstud | mnaser: I think there are some docs in the nova tree | 20:51 |
| comstud | mnaser: Ah, not real time console? | 20:51 |
| mnaser | comstud: there is VNC but not like serial console | 20:51 |
| mnaser | comstud: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/xenapi/vmops.py#L1345 | 20:52 |
| maoy | comstud: what about resize? | 20:52 |
| maoy | comstud: resize vs snapshot + create? | 20:52 |
| comstud | mnaswer: yeah, needs to be implemented yet.. I dunno if there's a BP or not | 20:53 |
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| comstud | maoy: similar.. keep networking info | 20:53 |
| comstud | maoy: same IP, etc | 20:53 |
| maoy | ok. | 20:54 |
| mnaser | comstud: thats why i remember seeing it but i cant find it now lol | 20:54 |
| mnaser | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xenapi-text-console-support | 20:54 |
| mnaser | there we go! | 20:54 |
| comstud | mnaser: aha! | 20:54 |
| mnaser | :p | 20:54 |
| comstud | maoy: There's also some other advantages to resize vs a snapshot + create... | 20:54 |
| maoy | comstud: e.g.? | 20:55 |
| comstud | maoy: mostly in the case your snapshot is somehow bad, etc | 20:55 |
| comstud | maoy: And not having to be billed twice for 2 instances running in parallel | 20:56 |
| comstud | maoy: Ie, I'd want to snapshot + create and make sure everything is okay before I deleted old instance... | 20:56 |
| comstud | maoy: Which means you're going to be billed for 2 instances for a short period of time.. in the ISP world | 20:56 |
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| maoy | comstud: not if you stop the original VM? | 20:57 |
| comstud | maoy: It's probably not a great reason for 'resize' to exist itself... however.. keeping the same networking info is. | 20:57 |
| comstud | maoy: You'd have to delete it | 20:57 |
| comstud | not just stop it | 20:57 |
| comstud | depends on your billing model, I guess, though :) | 20:57 |
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| maoy | comstud: yeah. that's right. in EC2 it stops charging the VM part once you stop it. | 20:58 |
| comstud | a stop in EC2 is really a delete | 20:58 |
| comstud | afaik | 20:58 |
| maoy | comstud: but the granularity is 1 hour so it doesn't make much difference | 20:58 |
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| comstud | a delete on the backend | 20:58 |
| comstud | maoy: nod | 20:58 |
| comstud | that's why I think the networking info part is the more important reason for the feature to exist | 20:59 |
| maoy | comstud: not if you stop with EBS-backed instances on EC2 | 20:59 |
| comstud | maoy: true | 20:59 |
| maoy | comstud: ok. | 20:59 |
| maoy | comstud: but I don't really enjoy ssh/scp over the image over approach in resizing | 20:59 |
| comstud | So I can spin up a crapload of machines on EC2.. using EBS and then shut them down, and I won't get billed anything... | 20:59 |
| comstud | even if they are using disk space? | 20:59 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: in the meantime, yeah 90 minutes should work. | 20:59 |
| comstud | (i'm not really that familiar with EC2) | 20:59 |
| maoy | comstud: you still pay for EBS volumes, but not ec2 instances | 21:00 |
| comstud | yeah ok | 21:00 |
| maoy | comstud: the reason i'm asking is that there are quite some code duplication in the compute manager about spawn VMs | 21:01 |
| maoy | comstud: one for new, two for resize(?), and one for hard_reboot. | 21:02 |
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| maoy | comstud: and they are slightly different. | 21:02 |
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| maoy | comstud: so i was wondering if we could simplify this just by just calling new instance instead.. of course code refactoring should also be fine. i guess keeping networking info is why they look slightly different. | 21:03 |
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| comstud | probably... that.. and resize is schedulered to a different host in most cases (there's a flag to configure that) | 21:04 |
| comstud | scheduled | 21:04 |
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| comstud | so you have to pick a new host | 21:05 |
| comstud | and then you have to create the new VM on that target host | 21:05 |
| comstud | migrating the disk over to it | 21:05 |
| comstud | etc | 21:05 |
| maoy | yeah. i meant other than the picking new host part. | 21:05 |
| comstud | yeah | 21:05 |
| comstud | well, it needs to know to use the original disk | 21:05 |
| comstud | that's been copied | 21:05 |
| comstud | so there's that difference too | 21:05 |
| comstud | preserve disk and network | 21:05 |
| comstud | and potentially resize the disk | 21:06 |
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| maoy | to copy the disk, there is a need to setup password-less ssh access among all compute nodes | 21:06 |
| maoy | that makes me a bit uncomfortable | 21:06 |
| comstud | amongst the dom0s for xenapi | 21:06 |
| comstud | but yes | 21:06 |
| comstud | Is there a better way to transfer the disk?:) | 21:07 |
| maoy | i don't know about better.. but uploading to glance seems more secure.. | 21:07 |
| comstud | that'd add a tremendous amount of time | 21:08 |
| comstud | for large instances | 21:08 |
| maoy | not as efficient in the p2p way of coz.. | 21:08 |
| comstud | nod | 21:08 |
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| comstud | I think that if you set up your authorized_keys file to only allow a specific command, that should be decent enough. | 21:08 |
| comstud | I'm not sure that's currently possible with how it transfers.. I think you'd have to blanket allow 'rsync' | 21:09 |
| comstud | for that key | 21:09 |
| comstud | it's a valid concern, though. | 21:09 |
| maoy | i haven't looked at live migration yet. is there a similar requirement? | 21:10 |
| comstud | i think most live migration right now requires shared storage | 21:10 |
| comstud | so there's no copying | 21:10 |
| maoy | i mean the ssh access part. | 21:10 |
| comstud | but I could be wrong | 21:10 |
| maoy | right | 21:10 |
| comstud | however, there's going to be live migration support added to xenapi that will not require shared storage. | 21:11 |
| comstud | i'm not sure the transfer happens inside nova tho | 21:11 |
| comstud | XenServer might handle it | 21:11 |
| comstud | not familiar with it enough to say | 21:11 |
| maoy | ok. | 21:11 |
| maoy | well. thanks for the discussion. | 21:12 |
| jog0 | notmyname: fixed swift3 in devstack https://review.openstack.org/7771 | 21:14 |
| comstud | maoy: no prob | 21:15 |
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| mnaser | Anyone in here involved with XenServer stuff? | 21:24 |
| mnaser | Looking for a way to get the console output (which should be feasable with XS 6) | 21:24 |
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