Tuesday, 2012-07-03

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bcwaldonjeblair: I want you to know that I do agree with you (partially) about fix vs fixes00:36
bcwaldonjeblair: but I still think 'fix' makes sense00:37
bcwaldonjeblair: and screw your grammar00:37
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andrewbogottvishy:  Rubber stamp https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8728/ ?  It's the same as the version you liked on Friday :)00:41
andrewbogott(The notification patch now needs work, alas)00:43
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jgriffithvishy: ping00:47
jeblairbcwaldon: you change make me happy.  i +1 it.  :)00:47
bcwaldonjeblair: I hoped it would00:47
jgriffithbcwaldon: Looks like I missed all sorts of fun today...00:48
bcwaldonjgriffith: how so!?00:49
jgriffithbcwaldon: All of my reviews from Friday night were rejected :(00:49
jgriffithbcwaldon: Looks like vishy took care of some of them00:49
bcwaldonha, yeah00:49
bcwaldonlittle stuff00:49
jgriffithbcwaldon: Did you talk to him about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/919900:49
bcwaldondon't worry00:49
bcwaldonjgriffith: I'm not sure if he's going to do what I asked00:50
bcwaldonjgriffith: I should see him to morrow00:50
bcwaldonjgriffith: gotta run now, though00:50
jgriffithbcwaldon: Ok, I was getting ready to pull them and start fixing, but better wait and talk wit him.00:50
jgriffithbcwaldon: Ok... later00:50
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winston-djgriffith, hi01:13
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jgriffithwinston-d: Hey there!01:13
winston-dI found out current devstack doesn't work with cinder (nova lacks of cinder module) and unfortunately, your nova repository on github has gone.01:14
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jgriffithwinston-d: :(  Sadly you are correct good sir01:16
winston-djgriffith, so if i patched nova with 9198,9199,9200 patches, it should work?01:16
jgriffithwinston-d: Yes01:16
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winston-djgriffith, great, that is what i need. :)01:17
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jgriffithwinston-d: Let me know if you have any issues01:17
jgriffithwinston-d: There were some issues noted in reviews01:17
jgriffithwinston-d: I need to talk with vishy though becuase I was travelling today and he helped out with them01:18
winston-dyeah, i saw those review comments.01:18
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jgriffithwinston-d: So I need to make sure I'm on the same page01:18
jgriffith:)01:18
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vishyjgriffith: here01:32
clarkbvishy: if you go back about three hours in scroll back there are a couple cinder/cinderclient changes mtaylor and I need review for01:34
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jgriffithvishy: Hey... sorry you got stuck with all the review stuff01:35
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jgriffithvishy: I was going to look at the review comments and resubmit01:36
vishyjgriffith: no worries, just trying to keep things moving01:36
jgriffithvishy: I appreciate it, was traveling today so offline01:36
vishyjgriffith: looks like there are a couple of changes needed still01:36
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jgriffithvishy: other than those already submitted?01:36
vishyjgriffith: well 9197 needs to be abandoned01:37
jgriffithvishy: Or are you referring to bcwaldon and motoken's comments?01:37
vishy9198 needs a rename of a varaible01:37
jgriffithvishy: Yes, I saw that, not sure how that happened (9197)01:37
jgriffithvishy: 9198 I've got now and can submit, not sure I agree though01:37
vishy9199 should probably address the Service catalog None like dan said01:37
vishyjgriffith: why don't you agree, the names are automatically translated from ec2 so if you change the name of the variable ec2 won't work01:38
vishythe parameter is volume_id not volume_ec2id01:38
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jgriffithvishy: Not that part...01:39
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jgriffithvishy: That's fine, the part I don't like is with my migration I read the variable in and change it twice with the same name01:39
vishyjgriffith: did you notice I made 9199 dependent on 9198?01:39
jgriffithI suppose it doesn't matter, maybe I'll just add a note/comment if nobody objects01:39
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jgriffithvishy: No... looking now01:40
vishylooks like waldon wants the fake moved01:40
vishyas well01:40
vishyshall i just do those changes?01:40
jgriffithvishy: Ok... I see the dependency added on 919901:40
vishyI've got it queued up so it should be easy?01:40
jgriffithIt's up to you... if you've got it ready to go that's great01:41
jgriffithvishy: Plus that way we won't have to go back and change again if I miss something01:41
jgriffithvishy: You baby sat it today anyway01:41
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jgriffithvishy: The only other thing I looked at was adding sleepsonthefloor as author for 920001:42
jgriffithvishy: It was his work01:42
vishyjgriffith: sounds good01:43
vishyjgriffith: if you want to take 9200 make the change on checking for none and changing the author that would be awesome01:43
jgriffithvishy: Thanks!!01:43
jgriffithvishy: BTW, I guess I just missed you in PaloAlto today01:43
vishyyou can do it with git commit --amend --author "Anthony Young <sleepsonthefloor@gmail.com>01:43
jgriffithvishy: Ok, I guess there was nothing else outstanding on that one, so I'll do it now01:44
jgriffithvishy: Except Dan Prince's comment...01:44
jgriffithvishy: So just an 'if service_catalog is not None' case added seem reasonable?01:46
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vishyjgriffith: yup01:47
vishyi just resubmitted 98 and 9901:47
vishyreally 99 should be dependent on 00 but it is only needed for integration tests so as long as we get them both in before changing the gate we should be fine.01:48
jgriffithvishy: Sounds good01:48
* andrewbogott poises on edge of seat...01:50
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chenxuhey folks, a quick question, does openstack currently support cross-site orchestration under the same identity management?01:54
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chenxumeaning, can I use keystone to manage multiple sites?02:00
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andrewbogottthanks vishy!02:08
clarkbvishy++ one down, one to go02:11
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mtaylorjgriffith: hey!!!02:55
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jgriffithaway03:44
jgriffithmtaylor: Hey back03:44
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jgriffithmtaylor: I must've done something wrong :(03:55
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mtaylorjgriffith: not at all104:40
mtaylorjgriffith: I'm just bugging you about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8937/04:41
jgriffithmtaylor: Ahhh04:43
jgriffithmtaylor: aplogies, didn't see that one.  I'll look at it now04:43
* mtaylor dances and pokes and sings a little song04:43
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jgriffithmtaylor: Looks like a lot of 'ci' magic to me :)04:45
mtaylorjgriffith: we hope si!04:45
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mtaylorso04:45
jgriffithmtaylor: +++++++++++04:45
mtaylorjgriffith: thanks! you should have proper versions of stuff released to places soon :)04:46
jgriffithmtaylor: Excellent!  Nice to have folks looking out for me :)04:47
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jgriffithmtaylor: So close to being "official" I can almost taste it04:48
mtaylorjgriffith: ++04:48
jgriffithmtaylor: So here's a silly question, how do I keep up to speed with CI going forward?  Or do you sort of wrangle everyone and keep things synced?04:50
jgriffithmtaylor: Assuming that question makes sense04:50
mtaylorjgriffith: I sort of wrangle everyone04:51
jgriffithmtaylor: That's a very favorable answer from my perspective04:51
mtaylorjgriffith: in general, the goal is for us to get to a place real soon now where there is very little movement needed in tree04:51
jgriffithmtaylor: even better :)04:51
mtaylorjgriffith: yeah!04:52
jgriffithmtaylor: Very cool... thanks for keeping us in mind :)04:52
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vishymtaylor: is this ok? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8916/18/tools/pip-requires06:04
vishysetting to an git/egg like that06:05
vishymtaylor: I don't see any other client deps there06:06
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thingeevishy: looks fine according to the doc http://www.pip-installer.org/en/latest/requirements.html06:19
vishythingee: I understand that it works I'm trying to find out if we have an alternative method for ci06:20
vishybecause we don't do any other deps that way.06:20
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garykdanwent: ping07:35
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GheRiveromorning people07:53
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notmynamettx: ping12:21
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ttxnotmyname: pong12:21
garyksalv_orlando: ping12:22
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notmynamettx: I'm traveling this week (https://twitter.com/notmyname/status/219941711927980032) and won't be at the meeting today. swift status: although I haven't updated LP yet, everything is on track for the 1.5.1 release in 2 weeks AFAIK. I'll be able to give you a better update next week after I'm done moving12:24
ttxnotmyname: through the rather boring lands of west texas, saw that12:24
notmynamettx: actually, that's NM, but it basically looks the same :-)12:24
ttxnotmyname: OK, will paste your status update during the meeting12:25
notmynamettx: thanks12:25
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anniec_logger url12:28
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anniec_sorry wrong window12:29
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mtaylorvishy: I'd MUCH rather that just be "python-quantumclient"13:01
mtaylor(by much prefer, what I really mean is "-2 - this would undo about 2 months of work - but there is thankfully an easier answer now")13:07
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Leander_hello all!13:58
mtaylorgood morning Leander_13:59
Leander_i need some help on how to correctly import libvirt library in order to use the fakelibvirt implementation when running the unit tests13:59
Leander_mtaylor: good afternoon :P13:59
Leander_mtaylor: do you by any chance know how to correctly import external modules(e.g. libvirt) so that when the test are run it uses the fakelibvirt version instead of importing the system module14:01
Leander_?14:01
mtaylorLeander_: I am the wrong person to ask14:01
mtaylorLeander_: I'm sure jaypipes will be more than happy to help you though14:02
Leander_jaypipes: are you there?14:02
Leander_mtaylor: k, thx14:02
ttxjgriffith: ping me when around, unless the fire is at your door14:03
ttxtr3buchet, mikal, bcwaldon, sdague: ping too14:05
jgriffithttx: Ping14:06
ttxjgriffith: hey, wanted to look into Cinder F2 milestone publication14:06
jgriffithttx: Fire's are calming down considerably, so I left town to beat the heat14:06
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jgriffithttx: Yeah, so the pathes are in14:07
sdaguettx: pong?14:07
ttxjgriffith: https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/folsom-2 is a bit unclear14:07
ttxsdague: you're next :)14:07
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ttxjgriffith: can we cut a milestone-proposed branch for F2 from current cinder master state ?14:08
ttxjgriffith: or is there anything more expected ?14:08
jgriffithttx: Cinder yes, still need changes to go into Nova14:08
jgriffithttx: So that should be ok14:08
jgriffithttx: The last two items on the milestone proposal aren't there yet14:09
ttxjgriffith: probably F3 stuff ?14:09
jgriffithttx: But I don't see them as critical to the milestone14:09
jgriffithttx: They were nice to haves14:09
jgriffithttx: Yes, F314:09
ttxjgriffith: features that are not in by the end of the day will have to be deferred anyway14:09
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ttxand the rest is probably python-cinderclient more than cinder14:10
jgriffithttx: ok, we're having the Cinder Hack day today so may get them after all14:10
jgriffithttx: Yeah, everything is up to the Nova changes at this point14:10
jgriffithttx: Everything is pretty much where we hoped it to be14:10
ttxjgriffith: unless you state otherwise, i'll cut the F2 milestone-proposed branch in the european morning with what will be in master14:11
sdagueLeander_: look at nova/tests/test_virt_drivers.py L:5414:11
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jgriffithttx: That sounds good14:11
ttxjgriffith: and defer the remaining blueprints if they are not set to "implemented"14:11
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jgriffithttx: cool14:11
ttxjgriffith: sounds good. About the Nova patches...14:11
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jgriffithttx: yes?14:12
ttxjgriffith: my understanding is that extract-nova-volumes is targeted to F3?14:12
Leander_sdague: i already did, i am looking for the exact way that the driver in libvirt import libvirt so i can replicate it in my own file. That way the fakelibvirt is imported during the test cade14:12
Leander_i've located some lines14:12
ttxjgriffith: so that would land after F2 rather than before ?14:12
Leander_i've tried to copy those but i keep getting errors14:12
Leander_:s14:12
sdagueLeander_: that function is the exact way14:12
jgriffithttx: Huh?  Maybe it was changed14:12
jgriffithttx: That's fine then14:13
jgriffithttx: Then the cinderclient is "done"14:13
sdaguettx: fire drill (actually fire drill) here, back in 1514:13
ttxjgriffith: my understanding was that just after F2 we make a decision about Cinder being the default14:13
ttxjgriffith: and push the patches in.14:14
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Leander_sdague: yes, but that's the setup for the test case. I wan't to resolve the inclusion process in my code. For instance, if i add my code directly to the driver.py file everything works fine. If i keep it in a separate file it fails due to the import14:14
jgriffithttx: the decoupling patches are just to make Cinder "work"14:14
jgriffithttx: They don't change default at this point14:14
jgriffithttx: But either way, it doesn't really matter to me if it's a patch in nova after F2 etc14:15
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Leander_sdaguei don't know if i'm making it clear enough :s14:15
ttxjgriffith: I thought the decouling patches were in (as part of Nova's volume-decoupling bp)14:15
Leander_sdague: i don't know if i'm making it clear enough :s *14:15
jgriffithttx: They are/were14:15
jgriffithttx: they're still being reviewed14:15
jgriffithttx: but yes, they're submitted14:15
ttxjgriffith: I thought they were merged14:16
ttxjgriffith: ok, we'll clarify with vishy14:16
jgriffithttx: Sorry... you're correct14:16
jgriffithttx: I'm referring to extract-nova-volumes14:17
ttxjgriffith: ok, so everything that's necessary to swap nova-volumes for Cinder is merged, right ?14:17
jgriffithttx: Correct14:18
jgriffithttx: The only step left is the patches that need to be added to Nova14:18
jgriffithttx: Which is "the swap"14:18
ttxand the actual use of Cinder by default is still pending and will be early in F314:18
ttxok14:18
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jgriffithttx: correct14:18
ttxjgriffith: ok, thx14:19
jgriffithttx: sure14:19
jgriffithttx: ttyl14:19
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ttxsdague: ping me at the end of the fire drill :)14:21
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smoserok. feeling like exposing ignorance.14:26
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sdaguettx: back14:28
sdaguealways fun to see fire trucks pull up to your building14:28
smosernova/compute/api.py API:create calls _create_instance, passing along the 'config_drive' that it got.14:28
ttxsdague: wanted to ask you about status of virt-driver-cleanup14:28
smoser_create_instance then says:14:28
smoser if config_drive and config_drive is not True:14:28
smoser   # this must be a volume id.14:28
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smoserWhere was that conversion done? it looks to me like nova-python-client just passes on whatever the user sent in.14:29
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sdaguettx: patches are reviewing slowly, so it's not going to make the milestone14:29
ttxsdague: is the remaining review what's "left" ?14:29
smoserso if I pass in '1', how would that get turned into True.14:29
ttxok, so there is more coming up14:29
smoserwhat code ends up calling API:create ?14:29
ttxsdague: will push back so that we can concentrate the effort on the stuff that's almost there14:30
sdaguettx: no, after that I've got to clean up the non libvirt drivers a little, and add docs14:30
sdaguettx: yep, sounds good14:30
smoseranyone? i'm sure i'm just missing something obvious.14:30
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sorensmoser: What makes you think it gets turned into True?14:34
smoserok. i see now. python-nova-client converts it14:34
smoserhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1073167/14:34
smoserline 10714:34
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smoseri was hoping that i could sneak "version-2" in somehow.  ie indicating what version of config drive to create.14:36
sorensmoser: It only gets converted if it's passed as "true" or "1". You can pass a string just fine.14:40
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smosersoren, right.14:40
smoserbut i was trying to think about different clients.14:41
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smoserother clients would pass in booleans.14:41
sorenWhat makes you think so?14:41
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smoserbecause they kind of have to, or it will be interpreted in the server as a volume id14:41
sorensmoser: Perhaps *I'm*  missing something.14:41
smoser(which i doubt anyone is using)14:41
smoserand if i change the behavior of True (by making the default to behavior to be "version 2 config drive"), then I break existing usage.14:42
sorenRight... So when it arrives on the server as a volume id.. You do your magic?14:42
smoserI was hoping to avoid a wart of:14:42
smoser if the value is boolean(True):14:42
smoser  do old style configdrive v114:42
smoser elif value is string("2"):14:42
smoser  do config-drive-v214:43
smoser else:14:43
smoser  assume its a volume id14:43
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sorenAnd what were you hoping to do instead?14:44
sorenMaybe I should call it a day. I don't understand what anyone is telling me.14:44
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smosersoren, hm.. i guess i dont know. :)14:51
smoserthanks for pointing that out.14:51
smoseri guess i was just thinking that if it was always a string coming into the api that i would have more to work with.14:52
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sorensmoser: But..14:54
sorensmoser: If you need it to be a string... It can be.14:54
smoserright.14:54
sorensmoser: You can pass a string. That's perfectly valid.14:54
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sorensmoser: How would it help to know that it's never a boolean?14:54
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* soren is having trouble grasping even simple concepts this afternoon :(14:56
smoserwell, i dont like that unless i want to break behavior, boolean True will always indicate config drive version 1.14:56
smoserbut you're right. i can't think of any situation where i could improve on that anyway.14:56
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sorenYou could let it either be a boolean, an integer or a string. A boolean True would mean config drive v1. An integer 2 would mean config drive v2. A string would mean a volume ID.14:57
sorenWhat could possibly go wrong?14:58
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smoserexactly.14:58
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smoseri didn't like that whatever i came up with, pushed knowledge of "which version of config drive do i want" down to the user.14:58
sorensmoser: Of course an integer value of -1 would mean "latest version of config drive". That's the only sensible thing to do.14:58
smoserforcing them to know something.14:58
smosersoren, i thought -2 would be better for that.14:59
smoserwhat about floats?14:59
smoserso, yeah.14:59
smoserthanks, soren14:59
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sorensmoser: Well, of course specifying -1 as two's complement would be valid, too. What's that, like 340282366920938463463374607431768211454?15:00
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zulyay floggings!15:02
* soren dinners15:02
zullol15:02
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ttxandrewbogott: ping15:06
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andrewbogottttx, what's up?15:09
ttxandrewbogott: was wondering about the status of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/novaplugins (folsom-2-targeted)15:11
ttxandrewbogott: looks like only half the stuff proposed made it and it was not completed ?15:12
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andrewbogottttx:  I'm going to commit it to nova via common.  So I've been bogged down in quixotic common refactors.15:13
andrewbogottI'm planning on submitting much of the plugin stuff to common today, actually.15:13
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ttxandrewbogott: ok, so it won't make it into Nova in time for F215:14
ttxandrewbogott: ok to defer that to F3 ?15:14
andrewbogottf2 is, what, Friday?15:14
ttxandrewbogott: we cut the branch at the end of today, then it's only bugfixes and publication on Thursday15:15
andrewbogottOh, then, yes, deferring it definitely ok.15:15
ttxandrewbogott: ok, will do15:15
andrewbogottThanks for checking in.15:15
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ttxandrewbogott: np, thx15:16
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Leander_could i get some reviews and approvals here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8839/9 please?15:24
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Leander_i've finally managed to solve the import issue :)15:25
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andrewbogottjkoelker, dhellmann, comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9075/  svp?15:31
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Leander_does any know if Johannes Erdfelt is around here?15:36
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primeministerpmtaylor: ping15:44
primeministerpmtaylor: mind joining #openstack-hyper-v?15:44
primeministerpmtaylor: for a moment?15:44
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smoseranyone know of anyone using  'metadata' in the compute api ?15:48
smoserjustinsb_, maybe you are? or perhaps someone from rackspace? maybe its more utilized in xen?15:48
smoserit seems to me that unless you use config drive, its just basically ignored. or, at least it is not available to the instance (maybe it is useful elsehere?)15:48
andrewbogottrussellb, since you seem to be the other person doing common->nova merges, this may interest you:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9075/15:49
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primeministerpvishy: ping15:56
primeministerpvishy: hey can you join #openstack-hyper-v for a few minutes?15:57
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chmouelwhy nova is asking for password interactively in devstack? https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/7082/consoleFull16:10
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mtaylorchmouel: it's a weird thing with python-keyring16:20
mtaylorjeblair: ^^16:20
mtaylorchmouel: jeblair hit it a few days ago and might have more infos16:21
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jeblairchmouel: quick and dirty fix: "sudo apt-get remove python-keyring"16:24
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jeblair(i think the correct fix is a change to python-novaclient so it's easy to disable its use)16:25
jeblairchmouel: oh, python-novaclient is what's pulling it in and using it, btw.16:25
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smoseranyone using metadata?16:29
smoseri'm looking at this and its just really wierd.16:30
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Leander_could i get some more reviews and approvals here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8839/ please? thx16:36
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chmoueljeblair: yeah that's from jenkins16:40
jeblairchmouel: link?16:42
chmouelhttps://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/7082/consoleFull16:42
chmoueljeblair: ^16:42
clarkbdoes the --no_cache flag need to be used? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9125/16:43
jeblairclarkb: quite possibly, but i'm very curious about how this got through in the first place; i had assumed it was not being used because it knew there was no controlling tty...16:44
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jeblairoh, i think it is a no-op -- it shows up in successful and failed runs16:47
jeblairso i think once the change to use a keyring merged, it probably started prompting all the time (but didn't get any data, so continued as before)16:48
jeblairso i think it's harmless but annoying.  we should probably set the env variable OS_NO_CACHE=1 in devstack-gate.16:50
garykdanwent: ping16:51
jeblairor perhaps default it to that in devstack itself...16:51
danwentgaryk: hey16:51
garykdanwent: hi, did you by anchance see - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/102056316:52
garyk. this is a bt troubling16:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1020563 in quantum "delete_subnet since ipallocationranges has a foreign key to the subnet" [High,In progress]16:52
danwentgarky just responded via email a second before you pinged me16:52
danwentgaryk… but i rather like garky as well :)16:52
garykdanwent: thanks!16:53
garykdanwent: :) i am so tired I did not pay attention16:54
danwent:P16:54
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garykdanwent: think that your mail just helped me find the problem. not sure yet. it has port_id=... should be subnet_id=16:56
danwentgaryk: I think its that if we decide to delete a subnet, we need to remove everything from the IPAllocation table that references that subnet (should just be one block, since all IPs must be deallocated)16:57
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danwentyou can't just delete the subnet, as the IPAllocations table refers to the subnet using a foreign key16:57
danwenthence the error16:57
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garykdanwent: the IPAllocation => that a port is assigned and has an IP - hence we cannot delete. In the case of the bug there is no port assigned. For some strange reason I am unable to get devstack up and running to reproduce.16:59
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danwentthe bug refers to ipallocationranges17:00
danwentwhich I thought was the thing that represented unused allocations, no?17:00
danwentgaryk17:00
garykdanwent: i know this happens when the subnet is deleted.17:00
garykdanwent: no - that is the IPAllocationRange17:01
danwentyes, exactly :)17:01
danwentthat is what the bug refers to, an IPAllocationRange17:01
danwentthese are not being removed when a subnet is deleted17:01
garykdanwent: ching ching (the penny dropped)17:02
danwenti mistyped and put ipallocation in one of my comments above, hence the confusion17:02
garykdanwent: i'll fix the bug17:03
danwentand in my email it appears17:03
danwentok, sorry for the confusion17:03
garykdanwent: its the monday night meetings. have jetlag on a tueadsy17:03
danwentgaryk: haha17:03
garykdanwent: tomorrow i'll be more coherent17:04
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garykdanwent: can you take a peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9285/ I am trying to get devstack up and running to check17:13
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garykdanwent: http://www.writing.com/main/books/entry_id/35272517:15
danwent:)17:15
danwentgaryk: it looks good.  any idea why this issue wasn't caught by a unit test for delete_subnet?17:15
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danwentanytime we find something like this, it usually points to a missing unit test that we should add along with the fix.17:16
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garykdanwent: i know. i am looking into it...17:18
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bcwaldoneglynn_: around?17:24
eglynn_bcwaldon: hey17:24
bcwaldoneglynn_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9056/17:25
* eglynn_ looking17:25
garykdanwent: it has been a long day. need to put the kids to bed and wake at the crack of dawn. please look at http://fpaste.org/0MsT/. the problem is solved. tomorrow i'll look into the fact that the unit tests did not get this. i think it is importnat for our f2 deadline. i'll be happy to work with aaron and mark on the dhcp if need be - ran into a lot of issues with it today. good night and happy holiday. gary17:25
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danwenthehe, thanks gary.  I will get fix approved today.  I will be working on the 4th, so will be online tomorrow.17:26
danwentyes, dhcp is the final area of focus.  we'll be working and testing all day today, so hopefully we'll have it merged by when you wake.17:26
garykdanwent: ok. come and run with us tomorrow morning :). later17:26
danwentthanks for all your help :)17:27
vishymtaylor: status on stable/diablo? we really need to get those sec patches in17:27
danwentgaryk: ah, will definitely do a run tomorrow17:27
garyk:)17:27
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bcwaldoneglynn_: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9256/17:29
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eglynn_bcwaldon: cool, I'm on it ...17:30
sdaguecan I get a nova core approver on this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9174/, it was approved yesterday, but then had to be rebased after an openstack common merge17:35
vishyttx: the patchs in review don't swap out cinder, they just add it as another option17:36
vishy* patches17:36
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bcwaldonmtaylor: let's try tagging python-glanceclient17:42
bcwaldonmtaylor: once I land a patch17:42
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eglynn_can someone with nova LP karma target LP #1019334 at folsom-2?17:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1019334 in nova "boot-from-volume broken by foreign key constraints" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101933417:44
eglynn_(bug is fixed, but not targeted at any milestone ...)17:44
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bcwaldoneglynn_: on it17:44
eglynn_thanks!17:44
heckjbcwaldon: I was wondering how you might do that...17:44
bcwaldonheckj: tag glanceclient?17:44
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heckjbcwaldon: yeah - I know how to make a git tag, but what accepts the push? Wasn't sure of the mechanics that mtaylor wanted us to follow. (pestered him in an email about it this morning)17:45
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bcwaldonheckj: I don't really know either17:46
heckj:-)17:46
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bcwaldoneglynn_: what do you want the priority at?17:46
bcwaldoneglynn_: I could see High17:46
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eglynn_bcwaldon: yep, I think high given the impact17:47
creihtsandywalsh: I took a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9270/17:47
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bcwaldoneglynn_: done and done17:47
creihtIt seems to work, but I think I had to clear out my cached passwords17:47
sandywalshcreiht: gotcha17:47
eglynn_bcwaldon: thank you sir!17:47
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sandywalshcreiht: hmm, I wonder why you had to do that? It's a new key so it simply shouldn't have found the old ones17:47
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creihtyeah not sure if that was the case, or coincidence of another failure17:48
creihtsandywalsh: I also noticed this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/102066917:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1020669 in nova "nova endpoints and credentials commands fail with new caching" [Undecided,New]17:48
creihtthat could have added to the confusion I had earlier17:48
sandywalshcreiht: k, let's keep an eye on it.17:49
creihtI'll see if I can get clayg_ to try it out and verify if they need to be cleared or not17:49
sandywalshcreiht: ah phooey ... yeah that could be a problem17:49
sandywalshcreiht: thanks, I'll have a look17:49
creihtcool, and thanks for taking a look at it :)17:49
sandywalshnp17:49
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vishyrussellb: ping17:56
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claygsandywalsh: creiht: fwiw I didn't have to clean out any of the cached "passwords"18:00
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sandywalshclayg: cool. That's what I would expect. There still be some wonky thing going on. Let's keep an eye on it.18:00
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russellbvishy: pong18:02
claygsandywalsh: I just looked at bug # 1020669 - I guess that's a seperate patch?18:02
vishyrussellb: I'm recruiting reviews for the cinder patches18:02
russellbah ok18:03
vishyrusselb: 9198 9199 920018:03
sandywalshclayg: yeah, I'm looking at that now. I think for those cmds I'll force caching off.18:03
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claygsandywalsh: I'll add a +1 to 9270, if you end up adding another patch set I'll test that too18:03
sandywalshclayg: needs the ServiceCatalog for them to work and I only store the token18:03
sandywalshclayg: thanks!18:03
vishyrussellb: and this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8732/18:03
russellbvishy: will look, thanks18:04
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russellbvishy: ttx is asking that it wait until after folsom-2, thoughts?18:06
vishyrussellb: i commented on 9200. I think he is misunderstanding due to the linked blueprint18:06
russellbk, will read that one18:06
vishyrussellb: nothing in those patches switches to cinder18:07
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salv-orlandodanwent: I gave a +2 to review.openstack.org/#/c/9285 . Is that ok for you If I approve it as well?18:07
danwentsalv-orlando: hehe, just beat you to it18:07
danwentsaw your +2 and clicked approved18:08
danwentthx for the quick review18:08
salv-orlandook, thanks18:08
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sdaguevishy: can you re-approve when you get a chance? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9174/18:20
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vishysdague: done18:22
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sdaguethanks much18:22
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dwalleckjaypipes, davidkranz: ping?18:25
davidkranzdwalleck: Here18:25
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dwalleckthat's one18:27
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davidkranzdwalleck: Looks like Jay is not around right now.18:30
jeblairchmouel: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9283/   that should suppress the keyring output18:31
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dwalleckWell, I'll be lurking18:35
jaypipesdwalleck: heyo18:36
jaypipesdavidkranz: I'm here buddy18:36
davidkranzHere we are.18:37
danwentmarkmcclain: ping?18:37
dwalleckI'm never totally here :-)18:37
jaypipesdwalleck, davidkranz: Google hangout?18:37
dwalleckyessir, before someone else tries to kidnap me18:38
markmcclaindanwent: what's up?18:38
jaypipeskk18:38
jaypipesI will start18:38
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danwentmarkmcclain: was about to start some more quantum dhcp testing, but was wondering whether I needed to wait for an update based on garyk's comments (hadn't seen a reply yet)18:39
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markmcclainI've got an update after reading through his stuff18:39
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jaypipesdwalleck, davidkranz: waiting in hangout... you're both invited18:40
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danwentmarkmcclain: ok, great.  ping me when its on gerrit, and i'll take another wack at testing18:40
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danwentmarkmcclain: when is EOD for you?  you're west coast I assume?18:41
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davidkranzjaypipes: No mic! Need to switch to a different machine.18:41
danwentwith the holiday, the deadline is pretty tight (we'll have reviewers online, but i'm assuming you won't be)18:41
jaypipesdavidkranz: k18:41
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markmcclaindanwent: I'm east coast, but will be around this evening18:43
davidkranzjaypipes: I'm screwed. Some one grabbed the laptop I was going to use. How about we check back in a little bit?18:43
danwentmarkmcclain: ah, ok.  well, i'm in favor of getting this patch in today, then filing bugs for any remaining issues (assuming the base use cases work).  That way, multiple people can help work on the bugs, and any bug fixes will be easy to pull into a milestone-proposed branch once ttx makes it tonight.18:44
jaypipesdavidkranz: np.18:44
jaypipesdavidkranz: ping us when you're good.18:44
ttxvishy: ok, ignore me then18:48
vishyttx: cool thx18:49
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davidkranzjaypipes, dwalleck_ : I'm on and invited you.18:50
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dwalleck_davidkranz: don't see an invite18:51
jaypipesdwalleck_: I invited ya18:51
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jaypipesdavidkranz: https://github.com/openstack-ci/devstack-gate19:04
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matiuWhat is the general feeling on how one should do logging ?19:33
matiuI'm looking to re-add instance action logs19:33
matiuthat were removed in Folsom: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/99484619:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 994846 in nova "Remove InstanceAction logging mechanism" [Low,Fix released]19:33
matiuand I've been doing it basically the same, only it logs the api calls, rather than in the vmware driver19:34
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matiuSo I'd l19:34
matiul19:34
matiulike to just log things in the db19:34
matiubut I heard that some people think it's better to have a separate non-openstack process listening to notifications and logging there..19:35
matiuany advice appreciated..19:35
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sdagueanyone else realize we got 3 pep8 errors slipped into nova?19:55
sdaguewas there a pep8 upgrade?19:55
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bcwaldonsdague: what version of pep8 are you running locally?19:56
bcwaldonmatiu: I'll check it out19:56
sdagueI'm doing ./run_tests.sh -p19:56
sdagueso should be using the venv19:56
bcwaldonmatiu: since I'm the one who removed instance action logging int he first place19:56
matiubcwaldon, yeah, you're the one that removed it :)19:56
matiuI'd definitely appreciate your input19:57
bcwaldonmatiu: will do19:57
sdaguebcwaldon: http://pastebin.com/LRDxfDhv19:57
vishyany core reviewers around for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8732/19:57
bcwaldonsdague: so you're using the virtualenv19:58
bcwaldonsdague: ah, thats the HACKING check19:58
bcwaldonsdague: I think I saw a patch up for that19:58
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bcwaldonsdague: we don't gate on those, afaik19:58
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matiubcwaldon, this shows how I'm doing the logging, in a separate api extension: https://github.com/matiu2/nova/commit/1bc738a8a89aa3dd33a2c845656a7c777dbc06db20:00
sdagueok, I saw it in an unrelated review (that actually had a pep8 issue as well)20:00
matiuand I changed the api extension scheme to allow extensions to be called even with errors20:00
matiusdague, yeah, I noticed the new pep8 thing20:01
matiuand immediately downgraded20:01
matiuas it hates nova codebase ;)20:01
matiubcwaldon, so I was planning as the next step to put back the admin api extension that you removed20:02
matiuand call it v220:02
matiuinastead of v1.120:02
bcwaldonmatiu: so I'm really not a fan of logging to the db20:02
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matiubcwaldon, yeah, I was planning to do it as an interim measure20:03
bcwaldonmatiu: I'd rather not have an interim20:03
matiubut I don't know where else one would log20:03
bcwaldonmatiu: database changes are too permanent20:03
bcwaldonmatiu: just use logging20:03
matiuah my trouble is in our install20:04
matiuthe logging stuff could be lost20:04
bcwaldonmatiu: sec, another meeting to attend20:04
matiuokayz20:04
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markmcclaindanwent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9064/420:17
bcwaldonmatiu: ok, half back20:18
bcwaldonmatiu: so what's the specific problem you're solving?20:18
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matiuthe support team want to be able to see what customers did with their servers20:18
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matiuto handle disputes and whatnot20:18
bcwaldonmatiu: so you're interested in having an audit log20:19
danwentmarkmcclain: great, thanks.  in PPB mtg right now, but will test asap20:19
matiuand I was planning to allow customers the ability to see what they did with their servers too20:19
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matiubcwaldon, yeah, sounds right :)20:19
matiuc20:19
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bcwaldonmatiu: so my thought is that a massively scalable system can't track its complete history20:19
bcwaldonmatiu: at least not this one20:19
matiuand the plan was to keep those logs around for a while after the actual instance is dead20:20
matiubcwaldon, do you have a suggestion how I might implement it ?20:20
matiuwithout logging to the DB20:20
bcwaldonmatiu: so you've already got the ability to send logs to syslog20:20
matiuI was considering some separate process that listens to openstack notifications20:21
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bcwaldonmatiu: you work for rackspace cloud?20:21
matiuyeah20:21
bcwaldonmatiu: so thankfully your team already has a lot of experience with that notification mechanism20:21
matiuyeah, but they're all super busy :)20:22
bcwaldonmatiu: and there exists a tool to do consume said notifications20:22
matiuso, you reckon just log to syslog inside the api server20:22
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bcwaldonmatiu: really, using notifications would be better20:22
bcwaldonmatiu: most of the work has been done20:22
matiubut if I submitted the code using syslog logging ?20:23
matiumight get in ?20:23
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bcwaldonmatiu: not sure what code there would be to submit at that point20:23
matiuthe other side of the balance is, systems team don't want more stuff to maintain :)20:23
bcwaldonmatiu: that's not nova's responsibility at that point20:23
bcwaldonmatiu: I really want to scope down what nova is doing20:23
matiuyeah, I can understand that philosophy20:23
matiuso, I was still planning to re-add the admin api extension20:24
matiuto retrieve the logs20:24
bcwaldonmatiu: what is that?20:24
bcwaldonwhat would you be retrieving logs from?20:24
matiuI don't know at this point20:24
matiuif it's not from the DB, from wherever we log to :)20:24
matiueven if the actual logging is done by a separate process running elsewhere20:25
bcwaldonwell, we are already generating notifications in a queue that should be consumed by a different process20:25
bcwaldonyou can feel free to write something to interface with that specific tool, but it shouldnt live in nova20:25
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matiuso another separate api server :(20:26
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bcwaldonmatiu: if that's how you want to solve the problem, yes20:26
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matiuhaha, I'd prefer to jam all my code into nova and log to the db20:26
bcwaldonmatiu: and that's where we disagree20:27
matiubut it's not going to get into trunk I wouldn't expect20:27
matiuI'll look at the options20:27
matiuthanks bcwaldon ;)20:27
matiu:)20:27
bcwaldonmatiu: yes sir20:27
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ttxbcwaldon: python-glanceclient bugs were moved to https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient -- other projects will follow tomorrow20:55
* ttx likes to use glance to test his scripts20:56
bcwaldonttx: how did you identify those bugs?20:57
bcwaldonttx: the similarly named tag?20:57
ttxthe python-glanceclient tag20:57
bcwaldonttx: ok, I've got a couple more to move, then20:58
ttxprobably yes20:58
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markmcclaindanwent: wiki updated21:04
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danwentmarkmcclain: awesome, thanks21:08
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vishymtaylor, jeblair: any idea why nova.openstack.org/~soren now redirects to: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/~soren ?21:27
vishyi can't see soren's helpful review stats any more :(21:27
bcwaldonvishy: nova.openstack.org doesnt exist21:28
bcwaldonvishy: mtaylor moved subproject.openstack.org to docs21:28
vishybcwaldon: but it used to :(21:28
bcwaldonvishy: I know it used to21:28
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vishybcwaldon: i'm sure soren's code is still there, it just got broken by the redirect21:29
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jeblairvishy, bcwaldon: if soren put something there, he did it outside of any documented/repeatable process we know about.21:30
jeblairnifty review stats sounds awesome, though21:30
jeblairi'd love to do that in a way that's reproducible.  :)21:30
bcwaldonvishy: http://173.203.107.207/~soren/stats/21:31
bcwaldonvishy: problem solved21:31
vishybcwaldon: nice thx21:31
bcwaldonvishy: dig is your friend21:31
jeblairthat doesn't strike me as a good long term solution.21:32
bcwaldonjeblair: I didn't claim it was21:33
bcwaldonjeblair: results now!21:33
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jeblairif it's a useful thing for the project, it should be in a code repo somewhere, and we should actually support it, publish it, and link to it so people can find it.  :)21:33
bcwaldonjeblair: indeed we should21:33
jeblairbcwaldon: understood.  i will not say you are not results oriented.  :)21:33
bcwaldonjeblair: works for me21:34
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apevechm, what happened w/ keystoneclient? keystone user-role-add: error: ambiguous option: --user could match --user-id, --user_id21:45
apevecfrom https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-integration-tests-devstack-vm/7107/consoleFull21:46
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apevecahh that's devstack stable/essex21:48
apevecusing trunk keystoneclient ...21:48
jeblairapevec: that's uncool.  looking.21:48
apevectrunk keystoneclient got https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/commit/1fa29109c2194102b4c79fa7fd7328843af6998e21:49
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apevecunfortunately there isn't stable/essex for keystoneclient, right?21:50
jeblairright, there are no stable branches of client libraries21:51
apevecso devstack stable/essex needs patch21:51
apevecfiles/keystone_data.sh21:51
jeblairapevec: yes, i think that would do it.21:51
jeblair(and testing client libs on older releases is something i hope we'll be able to do soon)21:52
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apevecjeblair, here it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9299/22:03
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apevecthis is blocking stable/essex gate, so devstack-core please approve22:03
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jeblairapevec: looks like that did the trick, the check test passed.22:11
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apevecjeblair, very good, now just need that merged and then re-trigger failed gate jobs22:14
apevecjeblair, actually, what re-triggered gate jobs here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9014/ ?22:16
apevecwas that heckj pulling magic levers?22:16
bcwaldonvishy: killing code - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/9296/22:17
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heckjapevec: no magic lever pulling from me22:18
heckjer, did try to reapprove it though :-)22:19
jeblairyeah, i think that was just heckj leaving a second approved vote, which doesn't show up in the history because it's the same as his previous vote with no text22:19
jeblairclarkb and i are working on adding retriggering right now.  should be available RSN.22:20
apevecheckj, see, it was magic22:20
apevecheckj, anyway, let's get that devstack/essex patch in, then please reapprove those two for keystone/essex 9014 and 901522:22
heckjyep - +1'd the devstack (I don't have core there)22:22
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mikalbcwaldon: ping?22:52
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bcwaldonmikal: yep23:08
mikalHeya23:08
mikalSo, I just commented on that review for the replicator... Wanna chat about it in a PM or something?23:08
mtaylorbcwaldon: ola!23:13
mtaylorbcwaldon: oh, nevermind - I was just reading scrollback23:14
bcwaldonproblem solved23:14
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mtaylorbcwaldon: thanks!23:28
mtaylorbcwaldon: I echo jeblair's assesment that we should, you know, probably actually run that for real, and take care of it and all23:28
mtaylorI mean, I've been thinking of deleting that server and replacing it with one that we actually manage... it would be sad to miss the random report in soren's homedir :)23:28
bcwaldonmtaylor: good luck!23:28
mtaylorbcwaldon: thanks!23:29
mtaylorbcwaldon: hey, did you see my neat $project-$branch.tar.gz tarballs?23:29
* mtaylor is happy about them - won't shut up really23:30
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bcwaldonhave not23:30
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mtaylorbcwaldon: http://tarballs.openstack.org/nova/nova-master.tar.gz or http://tarballs.openstack.org/nova/nova-stable-essex.tar.gz23:31
mtaylorfor instance23:31
mtaylorget created with every commit23:31
mtaylorbut they're actual proper sdist tarballs - so you can use them in pip-requires files if you need to23:31
mtaylorand they won't, you know, suck23:31
bcwaldon...interesting23:32
bcwaldoncan you explain how they might be helpful?23:32
bcwaldonif we want to use master instead of a tagged release in a pip-requires?23:32
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mtayloryeah23:34
mtaylorprobalby more for people who need to follow things we don't release to pypoi, like nova or swift or glance themselves23:35
mtaylorlike, ./glance/tools/pip-requires:https://github.com/openstack/keystone/zipball/ab6be05068068b0902db44b1d60f56eea4fe1215#egg=keystone23:35
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mtaylorbcwaldon: we should really add git short hash to our per-commit tarballs23:39
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bcwaldonG is for Grizzly!23:50
clarkbor Grizzle23:50
bcwaldonclarkb: that might be stretching the naming rules a bit too far23:51
clarkb:) mtaylor came up with it because he can't type23:51
bcwaldonclarkb: wasn't it because Grizzle is a manlier Drizzle?23:52
jeblairdon't they need to be cities in the the state where the G summit will be held (CA, again)?23:52
bcwaldonjeblair: yes, look for an email from me on the ML23:52
bcwaldonjeblair: just sent, so give it a few days23:52
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jeblairhaha23:53
clarkbjeblair: http://wiki.openstack.org/GNames and https://launchpad.net/~openstack/+poll/g-release-naming/+vote23:53
clarkbGasquet is pronounced funny so I may have to go with that one23:53
jeblairyou could pass up Goshen?23:54
jeblairhttp://firezine.net/faq/fst-humboldt.html23:55
clarkbalso the H summit should be held in Oregon so that we can go with Hell23:55
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mtaylorso many potential ayn rand jokes possible if we go with galt...23:56
mtaylorooh. gerber is tempting23:57
jeblairand there's such a dearth of ayn rand jokes.23:57
mtaylorhehe. you said dearth23:58
mtaylorwhat are you ... educated?23:58
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