Monday, 2012-09-17

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rmkvishy: Around?00:46
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rmkKiall: around?02:22
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gongyshping danwent?02:51
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danwentgongysh: hi02:53
danwentah, you want me to push?02:53
danwentstill haven't02:53
gongyshyes.02:53
danwentok, will do that now02:54
gongyshsomeone is recommending the 2.1 version instead of 2.0.1 one02:54
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danwentgongysh: hehe, was just going to ask you about that :)02:55
danwent2.1 is fine with me if you're ok with it02:55
gongyshok. I agree too.02:56
gongyshand http://wiki.openstack.org/Documentation02:56
gongyshI cannot any link or text for quantum project.02:56
gongyshI cannot see02:56
danwentgongysh: for 2.1, use bc7ba5e19d4e9039146ca37f77a0b232522cddc802:57
danwent(head of master)?02:57
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gongyshyes. head of master.02:57
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danwentwe should probably add a link to the OpenStack APIs section02:57
danwentlink to the api doc github repo is already there: http://github.com/openstack/netconn-api02:58
danwentand all admin guides are in this repo: http://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals02:58
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danwenti can update the wiki, unless you want to02:59
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danwentgongysh: tag pushed… keep an eye on http://pypi.python.org/simple/python-quantumclient/03:02
gongyshwhich wiki page? the http://wiki.openstack.org/Documentation?  I have no rights to update it.03:05
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gongyshI can see the 2.1 zip at http://pypi.python.org/simple/python-quantumclient/03:07
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gongyshdanwent: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/03:13
gongyshfor quantum 2.0 API.03:13
danwentgongysh: ah, great, I didn't realized it had been pushed publicly yet03:13
danwenti'll update the wiki03:13
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gongyshBut the admin document is not in.03:15
danwentgongysh: I can add a link, but it would be to the old Essex version until we finish updating docs03:19
danwent(i guess the other docs probably still point to essex, so its probably ok)03:19
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gongyshIs our admin guide finished?03:20
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danwentno, we still need to complete some sections of the google doc, then have some of the docs team help us convert it to docbook03:23
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danwentplan was to have conversion start tomorrow (monday) US time, but we're behind, so it may be later03:23
danwentgongysh: google docs link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xdovP4u8gLq3h3L2OYWhw9z5xGXFuJ3wO2NobHWof_M/edit?disco=AAAAAE2Fk2M&pli=1#03:24
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gongyshI presented a presentation about the quantum F at a openstack meet up conference in Beijing yesterday.03:27
gongyshI have sent out the PPT to quantum-cores before it.  Did u have chance to have a look at it?03:28
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danwentgongysh: ah, cool.  Sorry, i've been behind just trying to deal with bugs + docs, so I didn't take a look yet03:40
danwentgongysh: btw, did you have a traceback for https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/105050403:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1050504 in quantum "ovs-plugin-agent died when I delete vm" [Critical,New]03:40
gongyshno. I will try to reproduce it from now on.03:41
danwentgongysh: ok, i will try to see if there's an easy fix without needing the traceback03:42
gongyshhi, what about the multi-host feature?03:43
gongyshIs it possible for us to get this feature in?03:43
danwentgongysh: unfortunately, we can't add any features past the feature freeze date, which was several weeks ago03:43
gongyshok.03:44
danwentI wish we had multi_host support in folsom, as well, but we can get it done early in grizzly03:44
gongyshmany guys are talking about it in beijing openstack meet up.03:44
danwentgongysh: yeah, there are several items that I really wish we had been able to finish in folsom… such is life with software development03:45
gongyshagree.03:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Update l3-agent.ini with missing configuration flags  https://review.openstack.org/1306803:47
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rmkIs there a way to get smokestake to retest?04:37
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rmkI have no idea why this failed ... http://smokestack.openstack.org/?go=/jobs/3501804:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: ovs-lib: make db_get_map return empty dict on error  https://review.openstack.org/1309407:25
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Kiallrmk, not at 3:22am ;)08:20
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zykes-anyone here running XenServer with openstack ?09:42
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sdaguemarkmc, in the previous discussion of API consistency, was there ever a place or policy to keep track of the API oddities we'd like to fix eventually?14:19
markmcsdague, yes, someone needs to create a v3 API blueprint :)14:20
markmcsdague, maybe file the bug in launchpad and tag it as v3-api would do14:20
sdagueso yes agreed, no it wasn't done yet? :)14:20
markmcright14:20
sdaguemarkmc: ok, fair, what's your preference, blueprint or tag?14:20
markmcsdague, both actually, the blueprint would link to a query for the tag14:20
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sdagueok, I'll set something up.14:21
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sdagueI guess the follow on question is the role of extensions in this discussion, for instance, as I was adding sample testing for floating ips, I noticed that the floating ip pool is only creatable via direct db insertion in nova-manage. That seems like it should be API exposed.14:23
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markmcsdague, yes, pretty much anything you can do with nova-manage should be an API (db_sync would be an exception)14:25
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sdaguemarkmc: yep, agreed. Too late for Folsom, but I want to make sure this isn't lost in Grizzly.14:26
markmcsdague, doesn't require v3 to add that API, though14:27
markmcsdague, as an extension14:27
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sdaguemarkmc: yes, agreed, that's why I raised that part of the question. There are actually a couple of different issues here.14:28
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sdague1 - inconsistencies in existing v2 api that need to be addressed14:28
sdague2 - missing api functions that should be exposed by extensions (getting rid of nova-manage core logic)14:29
sdague3 - extensions apis that should be promoted to v3 core API features14:29
markmcall orthogonal issues, right ... cool14:29
sdagueso should we track them all together, or seperately14:29
sdagueI'm happy to call those 3 blueprints, and register them seperately14:30
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sdagueor should I take this conversation to the list, and we can bang it out there?14:31
markmcIMHO, there's rough consensus on all of that14:32
markmcjust needs folks to do it :)14:32
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sdagueok, well I'll start with submitting the 3 blueprints for tracking, then I at least have a place to start filing the issues I'm hitting, so I don't forget about them later:)14:36
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rmkKiall: sorry, forgot you were in europe :)14:44
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sdaguemarkmc: last question, should I make these nova blueprints? No real good way to make a blueprint cross project, right?14:47
markmcsdague, you want blueprint to be as focused as possible really14:47
markmcsdague, so I wouldn't extrapolate this to cross-project, even if it was possible14:47
sdagueok, fair14:48
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Kiallrmk, no hassle14:52
rmkKiall: You probably saw but I updated the patch to deal with reverting resizes14:53
KiallI noticed some changes, but havent had a look just yet14:54
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Kiallrmk, A quick look at the diff since patch set 6 seems like the revert stuff is never supplied with a value for block_device_info?14:56
Kiall(Last version I looked at + tested was #6)14:56
rmkcorrect14:56
rmkThe rest of the changes have to do with the tests14:56
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KiallSure - but where does the `finish_revert_migration` method get called, it seems that would need to be updated to supplied a value for block_device_info?14:57
Kiall(I'm probably missing something..)14:57
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rmkcalled from the compute manager which I updated as well14:58
KiallHumm - Maybe my gerrit fu is weak, but I'm not seeing that :)15:00
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rmkMaybe I forgot to commit it .. checking15:05
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rmkI cannot believe I did that15:17
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Make compute/manager.py use self.host instead of FLAGS.host  https://review.openstack.org/1297415:20
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix XML deserialization of rebuild parameters  https://review.openstack.org/1303315:20
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add api_samples tests for servers actions  https://review.openstack.org/1303515:21
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Kiallrmk, lol15:21
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rmkthats one way to create bugfree code I guess -- put it in a code path that never runs15:23
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Kiallrmk, what's even more impressive is that all the tests passed ;)15:24
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rmkthat's not too surprising actually since the additional arg is optional15:27
Kialltrue! Anyway, I can give that lot a once over in a few hours.15:28
KiallRight now back - back to countless lines of meaningless python :/15:28
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notmynamezykes-: in answer to your question yesterday, http://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/09/16/globally-distributed-openstack-swift-cluster/15:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Update NVP plugin to Quantum v2.  https://review.openstack.org/1309916:12
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zykes-danwent: ping16:25
zykes-or garyk16:25
danwentzykes-:  what's up?16:26
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zykes-danwent: you got a clue on the metaplugin stuff ?16:30
danwentzykes-: the metaplugin stuff is "experimental" for folsom.  I haven't dealt with it at all.16:31
danwentzykes-: nachi is the person who wrote it… don't see him online right now16:31
zykes-danwent:16:31
zykes-danwent: is there support for it in the client ?16:32
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danwentzykes-: i'm not familiar with it, but I don't believe there would need to be client changes16:37
danwentzykes-:  best to ask nachi, as I haven't even so much as reviewed that code16:37
bcwaldonjaypipes: ping16:37
vishyjgriffith: ping16:38
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jaypipesbcwaldon: pong16:40
bcwaldonjaypipes: would love feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12721/16:41
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jaypipesbcwaldon: I'll see what I can do! :)16:41
bcwaldonjaypipes: thanks!16:41
zykes-danwent: is there way in the openvswitch plugin to extract what vlan a network / subnet has ?16:42
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bcwaldonjgriffith: would appreciate your eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12816/16:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-glanceclient: Typo in image-create help page  https://review.openstack.org/1311016:59
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vishybelliott: ping17:11
zykes-danwent: ping.17:12
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jog0vishy: ping17:14
jog0is bin/nova-dhcpbridge still used?17:15
jgriffithbcwaldon: I'm about half way through it17:15
garykzykes-: ping17:15
vishyjog0: yessir17:16
vishyjog0: I've tracked down the issue with your bug, just looking at the best way to fix it.17:16
jog0vishy:  for bin/nova-dhcpbridge, is it used under all network modes? I am working on its man page17:18
vishyit is used whenever nova is managing dhcp17:18
vishyso flatchp and vlan17:18
jog0vishy:  thanks17:18
jog0vishy: which bug are you referring to? bug 1048842?17:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1048842 in nova "resource_tracker prevents oversubscription" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104884217:18
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vishyno17:21
jog0vishy: bug 1051066?17:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1051066 in nova "starting multiple VMs causes some to be stuck in BUILDING" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105106617:21
vishyyes17:21
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zykes-would it be sensable to write a l2 infformational plugin for quantum that doesn't do anything except store information ?17:21
jog0vishy:  ahh,  was the problem?17:22
vishypvo, _cerberus_: anyone there that can explain retry to me. Brian Elliot seems to be gone?17:22
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vishyjog0: you are getting NoValidHost because you are out of memory17:23
vishyjog0: The bug is that it only updates one of the instances to error instead of all of them17:23
jog0hmm, when I ran 10 VMs separately they all worked.17:24
jog0my devstack box was configured to handle more then 8 m1.tiny  VMs17:24
vishyjog0: well I can't reproduce an error with devstack, unless the scheduling fails17:24
vishyI just ran 8 just fine on devstack, so perhaps your bug was something else that has been fixed?17:25
jog0I will retry, but the error should only arise when you are running close to capacity17:26
jog0so 8  may not be enough to trigger on your box17:26
vishyi ran 8 and ran 8 more17:26
vishythe second set failed as soon as i ran out of ram17:26
zulis there suppose to be an nova rc1 out?17:28
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jog0vishy: are you sure you were supposed to run out of ram, when I ran the test I wasn't.17:29
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danwentzykes-: yes, the provider network stuff will show the vlan to an admin user17:32
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danwentzykes: if you do a net-show <net-name> as admin user, you should see it as segmentation_Id17:32
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add README for doc folder  https://review.openstack.org/1300217:37
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vishyjog0: can you try and reproduce17:45
vishyI can't and neither could the other person in the thread17:45
jog0vishy:  sure, setting up my environment as we speak.17:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/openstack-common: Normalize_time() always return naive object  https://review.openstack.org/1277117:45
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rmkdo tests just fail from time to time via jenkins?17:51
rmki.e. non-code related17:51
clarkboccasionally. pulling dependencies from github may fail (or other upstream source) and so on.17:52
clarkbdo you have an example failure?17:52
rmkhttp://logs.openstack.org/13071/11/check/gate-nova-python26/601217:53
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clarkbthat looks like a valid failure to me.17:54
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clarkbhowever it could be a transient/nondeterministic error and be unrelated to that change18:00
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rmkclarkb: nods, I guess that's largely what I meant18:00
rmkThough I stated it poorly18:01
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arosen1hey vishy you around?18:07
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vishyarosen1: yeah what's up?18:09
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rmklooks like jenkins is failing for me in different, unrelated places each time18:13
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Fix FLAGS.volumes_dir help message  https://review.openstack.org/1291718:14
zykes-is anyone running openstack with xenserver or xen ?18:14
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rmkzykes-: I haven't heard of too many such deployments except Rackspace18:15
arosen1vishy: I'm not sure if you got a chance to checkout my sgh patch for folsom. When create_instance() is called that also calls security_group_ensure_default() so i'd need to pass sgh to that. (And create_instance() is called in a lot of places). I'd like to move the logic to ensure_default security group to compute/api.py  (how it was done it essex) but I don't think that will work since18:17
arosen1in db/api.py: IMPL = utils.LazyPluggable('db_backend', sqlalchemy='nova.db.sqlalchemy.api')18:18
vishyarosen1: can I ask what issue you are seeing btw?18:18
arosen1vishy: sure, right now if you create a security group nova will create a default one for you by default but it doesn't tell the sgh handler that it did that in folsom (or essex)18:18
vishyarosen1: I mean the default rule should be created on first instance launch, so it really should only be called that one time18:18
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zykes-rmk: how is kvm for supporting os's like mac, windows etc ?18:19
rmkzykes-: Haven't tried Mac but Windows mostly seems fine18:19
vishyarosen1: so it seems perfectly ok to look for the group first, if it isn't there, call ensure and then call the sgh18:19
zykes-you know i got a problem with arguing for kvm vs xen for the out of box support for windows18:19
rmkUnless you go old-school Server 2003 or XP18:19
zykes-and the "enterprise" ish stuff18:19
vishyin some rare race conditions the sgh will get called twice but I think that is acceptable18:19
rmkzykes-: I'm personally not a fan of the DomU approach required for Xenserver18:20
rmkzykes-: Otherwise that's the initial direction we were going18:20
zykes-initial direction how ?18:20
zykes-xenserver?18:20
rmkzykes-: Yes18:20
zykes-who you working for rmk ?18:20
rmkzykes-: By and large KVM works fine for every OS which supports virtio18:21
rmkMetacloud, we're a startup18:21
arosen1vishy: you are talking about : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13043/1/nova/compute/api.py (Just adding the create call there? )18:21
rmkWe'll have a booth at the conference18:21
zykes-rmk: tested quantum v2 with xenserver?18:21
rmkNegative, haven't done anything with quantum yet -- want to some point soon18:21
vishyarosen1: yes18:21
zykes-wonder if it works with xenserver18:21
zykes-i mean, docs state use nova-network but :/18:21
zykes-vishy: does kvm do block migration yet ?18:22
rmkyes18:22
zykes-block live migration sorry18:22
rmkIt has since Diablo18:23
arosen1vishy: If we do that then I think we should return (default_group, created) from security_group_ensure_default() then way sgh doesn't need to be called everytime.18:23
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zykes-without shared storage as well or ?18:23
rmkyes18:23
zykes-rmk: what's your reason for going for xenserver?18:23
arosen1*this way sgh doesn't need to be called everytime*18:23
rmkzykes-: We went KVM.  I had prior positive experience with Xenserver so we evaluated that route first.18:23
vishyarosen1: that seems fine18:23
zykes-oh18:24
zykes-rmk: ubuntu or ?18:24
arosen1vishy: k thanks I'll make that change then.18:24
vishyarosen1: great thanks18:24
rmkzykes-: Yeah.  Though, RHEL is a much more viable option now.18:24
rmkIt wasn't as much at the time without a lot of package building.18:24
zykes-rmk: why rhel over ubuntu ?18:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: fix for nested rootwrap checks with 'ip netns exec'  https://review.openstack.org/1309318:24
rmkvishy: I'm sure you're being pulled a million different directions, wanted to pick your brain when you have some free time18:25
rmkzykes-: I'm saying either is viable now.18:25
zykes-:o18:25
rmkzykes-: So whichever you prefer is going to be fine.  We're Ubuntu though.18:25
zykes-but rh only has essex atm i guess18:25
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Clean up handling of project_only in network_get  https://review.openstack.org/1274918:31
maoyjeblair: ping18:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Deserialize user_data in xml servers request  https://review.openstack.org/1301018:37
zykes-rmk: what you use to deploy it ?18:38
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zykes-what can one do for patch management for ubuntu ?18:40
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rmkzykes-: Deploying it is a lengthy answer.  We have our own config management system.18:43
zykes-rmk: hmmm oook18:43
zykes-puppet or smth ?18:43
rmkhttps://github.com/metacloud/spine18:43
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rmkMost people use Puppet or Chef.18:43
zykes-why use your own ?18:44
rmkThat's a lengthy topic on its own.  We eventially will transition to something else.18:44
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zykes-:p18:45
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jk0dtroyer: how does one enable the v2 API in openstackclient for compute? is it just not written to do this yet?19:10
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jk0I could be overlooking something too19:10
dtroyerjk0: v1.1 and v2 are (were?) equivalent.  v2 should be the default anyway19:16
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jk0the v2 module doesn't seem to be loading at all when making 'openstack list server' calls19:17
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dtroyerhowever, if you're looking for the commands, they're still in review at https://review.openstack.org/1174119:17
jk0ahah, that would explain it19:17
dtroyerthat's just the server commands, the rest for compute haven't been written yet.19:17
jk0yeah, I am looking into adding the rest19:18
dtroyerunfortunately my day job doesn't leave me much time to work on this any mre19:18
dtroyergreat!19:18
jk0and eventually glance, etc as well19:18
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zykes-rmk: what's the best thing for HA in nova ?19:26
EmilienMzykes- : Pacemaker ?19:28
zykes-hmm, EmilienM more like storage.19:28
zykes-and networking.19:28
EmilienMfor storage : shared storage like Ceph, OCFS2, GlusterFS or NFS19:29
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Change qpid_heartbeat default.  https://review.openstack.org/1304519:29
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EmilienMand networking you should consider a commercial solution for networking virtualization with Quantum19:30
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zykes-EmilienM: problem with NV is that it's hard to get ahold of these days unless your google size ;p19:30
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zykes-or your made of $$$19:30
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EmilienM:D19:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Add README.md to the tarball.  https://review.openstack.org/1305519:31
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zykes-or you can pay it for me EmilienM ;)19:33
EmilienMzykes-: ok :)19:34
zykes-EmilienM: you know if there's a way to get a newer OVS for ubuntu then 1.4.0 ?19:36
zykes-i mean the latest is 1.7.019:36
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EmilienMdo you run Quantal zykes- ?19:37
zykes-EmilienM: nope ;)19:37
vanchesterHello, Stackers. Is there anything about Keystone's domains?19:37
zykes-lts all the way19:37
zykes-:o19:37
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EmilienMthere is a PPA : https://launchpad.net/~gdahlman/+archive/openvswitch19:38
zykes-1.6.9 :/19:38
EmilienM:/19:39
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EmilienMzykes-: we can switch to #openstack-packaging ok?19:41
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zykes-sur.19:43
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ameadeseems like upgrading pip in the tools/install_venv.sh script breaks the venv setup20:26
ameademtaylor: ^^ not sure if you are the one to mention this to20:27
ameaderemoveing the line 'pip_install('pip')' in tools/install_venv.sh fixes the problem20:28
ameadethis seems to be true for all projects20:28
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: README file changes for Cisco plugin  https://review.openstack.org/1313720:29
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: allow empty network list to be requested  https://review.openstack.org/1305020:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Update quota when deleting volume that failed to be scheduled  https://review.openstack.org/1313320:37
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mtaylorameade: it's not me really - I don't use install_venv.sh for anything, nor does CI21:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Improve entity validation in volumes APIs  https://review.openstack.org/1286521:06
alaskiameade: Does https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/2e4c23279327e526d8d5ee936653c35181574c1d address this?21:06
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zykes-hmmm, is floatingip in horizon / nova with quantum broken ?21:27
zykes-I get that there's no floating ip pool21:27
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ameadealaski: sure does, for nova anyways21:37
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rmkzykes-: I don't believe floating IPs are implemented yet in Quantum21:38
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Include Schedule Hints deserialization to XML API  https://review.openstack.org/1294021:53
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add api samples to Scheduler hints extension  https://review.openstack.org/1294121:53
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vishybelliott: ping again21:59
amotokizykes-: quantum floating IP is not integrated with nova yet. You need to use "quantum " command to manage floating IPs.21:59
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clarkbamotoki: the ubuntu folsom trunk testing PPA is at https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+archive/folsom-trunk-testing22:01
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amotokiclarkb: thanks for the pointer. I will add the PPA.22:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Fixes setup compatibility issue on Windows  https://review.openstack.org/1315322:15
clarkbadam_g: does https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+archive/folsom-trunk-testing still follow master or is it on milestone-proposed now?22:16
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adam_gclarkb: as of friday, they have been redirected to milestone-proposed for the projects that opened 2013.122:24
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adam_gclarkb: i need to go through today and see whats been bumped since  / whats failing to build22:25
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vinay_Are the unit tests (run_tests.sh) in horizon passing?22:26
vinay_I have a change that I want to submit for review but having unit test failures but don't appear to be related to my changes.22:26
clarkbvinay_: they appaer to be passing https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-horizon-python26/ and https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-horizon-python27/22:27
vinay_Thanks22:27
clarkbvinay_: you can always submit your changes for review then change the state of your submitted code to work in progress if it fails unit tests on jenkins (this will allow you to run the unittests on jenkins)22:30
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mtaylorclarkb: re: PPA above22:39
mtaylorclarkb: http://blog.canonical.com/2012/09/14/now-you-can-have-your-openstack-cake-and-eat-it/22:39
clarkbshiny22:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Includes sec group quota details in limits API response  https://review.openstack.org/1286122:42
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Reset the task state after backup done.  https://review.openstack.org/1315222:43
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adam_gclarkb: so far glance, keystone, horizon, quantum have had their tracking move to milestone-proposed. im assuming its correct that we're still waiting on nova + cinder?22:52
clarkbadam_g: I think it is for nova. just glancing at version info on master22:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: make README point to real v2 API spec  https://review.openstack.org/1316723:11
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jgriffithbcwaldon: ping23:22
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bcwaldonjgriffith: hey23:30
jgriffithbcwaldon: Hey there... wondering if you knew what the policy is regarding removal of nova-manage commands?23:30
jgriffithbcwaldon: Same rules as API changes etc?23:31
bcwaldonjgriffith: it depends23:31
jgriffithbcwaldon: The background is...23:31
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jgriffithbcwaldon: The volume/delete methods are no longer *needed* after the osadm action extensions land23:31
jgriffithand.. the current implementation doesn't work if you're using Cinder anyway23:32
jgriffithI can fix that, but seems like just removing it makes more sense23:32
bcwaldonjgriffith: Ideally, I would want to see them there until nova-volumes is removed23:32
bcwaldonfeel free to deprecate them now, though23:32
bcwaldon(assuming it works with nova-volumes when it doesnt with cinder)23:33
jgriffithbcwaldon: sounds good to me23:33
jgriffithbcwaldon: thanks23:33
bcwaldonjgriffith: no problem23:33
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