Monday, 2012-10-01

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rmkCan anyone explain the difference between "location" and "copy_from" for Glance?03:20
rmkThey seem pretty similar.03:20
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rmkIf I understand correctly, "location" actually stores a reference to the image(s) in question without actually pulling them into whatever Glance is using as a back end store.03:33
rmkWhere copy_from is just a shortcut for pulling files into the Glance store itself via http or whatever (i.e. saves a wget, s3 copy, etc)03:33
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rmkIf I'm wrong I'd appreciate a correction. :)03:35
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zaitcevmaybe just e-mail; I think eglynn could answer these questions about Glance but he's busy03:47
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zykes-salv-orlando: hoii07:31
salv-orlandozykes-: good morning07:31
zykes-salv-orlando: what was the remarks you made about the drop rule ?07:31
salv-orlandozykes-: we found the issue. Basically that drop rule is a kind of "baseline"; normally on top of that quantum adds then rules for forwarding packets for each network07:33
zykes-oh!07:34
zykes-is that a quantum thing or ?07:34
salv-orlandothe problem was that for some reason these rules were not appearing. This is usually the case when you decide to create "local" networks07:34
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salv-orlandozykes-: yes, it's normal ovs plugin behaviour. By default all traffic on tunnel bridge is dropped.07:34
salv-orlandoThen we enable flows for each network07:34
zykes-salv-orlando: yeah, but then I say, I don't use tunneling, I use VLAN07:34
zykes-so, hmm :)07:34
salv-orlandozykes: you don't have br-tun07:35
salv-orlandozykes-: ^07:35
zykes-Nope, I use VLAN networking, and I too had problems with getting dhcp / traffic between VM's and the controller / networking node07:35
salv-orlandobut you still have some code that converts the "local" vlan tag into the "official" one07:35
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zykes-k07:36
salv-orlandoI don't want to bother you with all details of the ovs plugin. But suffice to say that the tag used within br-int is different from the one used over the wire07:36
salv-orlandoand ovs flow rules perform the conversion07:36
zykes-yeah, I know you have some "internal" stuff07:36
salv-orlandojust like it happens for the tunnel case07:36
salv-orlandozykes-: perfect. Now there are several kind of tenant network types. The default one is "local"07:37
zykes-in the br-int and that get's converted in and out via the phys-br-int interfaces and the ovs plugins07:37
salv-orlandozykes-: correct07:37
salv-orlandothe "local" network type is tantamount to a host-only network.07:37
zykes-salv-orlando: i've been working quite alot with quantum compared to the other components in OpenStack ;p07:37
zykes-ok07:37
salv-orlandomeaning that this flow entries for converting the local tag in the real one are not added.07:37
zykes-basically a Isolated tenant network or ?07:37
zykes-or just locked into the host?07:38
salv-orlandozykes-: the second you said. Now very useful apart from devstack probabluy07:38
zykes-k07:39
salv-orlandoanyway in EmilienM case, we found out that tenant_network_type=gre, which is correct for a deployment with tunnelling. However the network in the database was created before setting tenant_network_type to gre07:39
zykes-oh07:39
salv-orlandoand hence was regarded as a local network by Quantum07:39
zykes-I'm setting up a env alike my lab one in VMware workstation, i'll ping you if it fails :)07:41
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Use test.TestCase provided self.mox and self.stubs  https://review.openstack.org/1386407:44
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Use self.flags() instead of manipulating FLAGS by hand  https://review.openstack.org/1386507:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/openstack-common: Limit pep8 checks to our source  https://review.openstack.org/1385608:19
zykes-salv-orlando: is there something that prunes inactive ports on bridges ?08:20
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salv-orlandozkes-: I don't think so. The ovs plugin puts unknown ports on the "dead clan", but does not remove them08:26
salv-orlandozykes-: ^08:26
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zykes-salv-orlando: maybe you should disable use_namespaces as a default in folsom ? :(08:37
zykes-or add a note about it08:37
zykes-default installation I just did enable namespaces as a default on the l3 and dhcp agents08:38
salv-orlandothe admin guide addresses this topic - Folsom is out now, so changing the default is now for grizzly. But then I wish we'll have namespaces and overlapping ips by default there.08:39
salv-orlandoand security groups, and all the other stuff08:39
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zykes-Ok :)08:42
zykes-salv-orlando: what's the chance for landing SG support before the summit ? I think Dan was talking about it08:42
salv-orlandoGood chances for the APIs08:43
zykes-but not so much for the agents ? ;)08:44
zykes-I can try to help all I can08:44
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salv-orlandoIt would be great to get some help on the plugin support08:51
salv-orlandoI think both the ovs and linux bridge plugin might use a porting of nova's iptables firewall driver08:52
zykes-isn't it going to be a seperate agent ?08:52
zykes-or integrated into the agent for the plugin itself ?08:52
sorencd /win 708:56
sorenWhoops08:56
sorenttx: Still no stable/folsom branches?08:56
ttxsoren: they are all in08:57
ttxhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/stable/folsom08:58
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sorenttx: Oh. /me fixes a typo09:00
sorenttx: Ah, yes. There it is.09:00
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sorenttx: Oh. Except not for Swift?09:08
ttxsoren: for Swift I need to discuss veriosning with notmyname first. Think 1.7.4.1 or 1.7.509:10
ttxversioning*09:10
ttxshould be covered today09:10
sorenOk.09:10
sorenttx: So the Swift stuff included in Folsom is in the milestone-proposed branch still?09:16
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zykes-salv-orlando: should it be integrated into the plugins or ?09:19
ttxsoren: yes09:19
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zykes-danwent: ping11:55
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zykes-salv-orlando: can you tell me why my port has drop as the first rule ?12:28
salv-orlandodo you have a drop rule with in_port=<your_port>?12:28
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zykes-yes salv-orlando .12:33
zykes-I have a drop rule that says that12:33
salv-orlandozykes-: that port must have ended up on the dead vlan - check its tag: it should 409512:35
zykes-2 sec12:36
salv-orlandoa port ends up there if the ovs agent cannot find any binding for it12:36
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zykes-salv-orlando: what is the drop rule ?12:44
zykes-I see it on both compute nodes and my controller node12:45
zykes-and dhcp isn't work12:45
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salv-orlandothe drop rule when it refers to a specific port - is because the port is recognised as not belonging to any quantum network. Whether this normal or bug, it has to be investigated.12:48
salv-orlandodrop rules without ports instead are normal, and should be overridden by rules allowing traffic for specific networks.12:48
salv-orlandoI now apologise but I have to leave the channel for a while12:48
zykes-salv-orlando: basically at it stands now my networking is non operational12:49
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zykes-but ok .12:49
salv-orlandozykes-: Yeah you cannot send packet across hosts12:49
salv-orlandoI shall be back at 15.30 BST/17.30 CET/8.30 AM PST12:49
zykes-darn it :p12:50
salv-orlandozykes:- I'll be happy to look more in detail at your problem when I'll be back. I really need to run now.12:50
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/1389114:34
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notmynamettx: what do you need from me re version numbers?15:27
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ttxnotmyname: if we want to create a stable/folsom branch over 1.7.4, we need to give it a future version number, even if we never actually "release" anything from that branch15:31
ttxnotmyname: the Folsom release is 1.7.4 so we can pick 1.7.4.1, or 1.7.5, provided that's not used for master branch15:31
notmynamettx: ah. ya, then 1.7.4.X would be my preference (since we're dev'ing on 1.7.5 now)15:31
ttxnotmyname: OK, then I'll prepare a 1.7.4.1 version bump and do the magic to create the branch15:32
ttxnotmyname: thx15:32
notmynamettx: but there isn't anything for that branch right now, is there? 1.7.4 should be what's in folsom15:32
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notmynamethere is no outstanding backports15:32
ttxnotmyname: exact15:33
notmynamettx: ok, just checking. this is a hook for future things that may land, then15:33
ttxnotmyname: yes, think security fixes15:33
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notmynamettx: ok. thanks for taking care of it15:34
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ttxnotmyname: you can sanity-check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13905/15:37
ttx(The "devnull" branch is the intermediary work branch between milestone-proposed and stable/folsom)15:38
notmynamettx: lgtm15:39
ttxok, will open stable/folsom with that commit as soon as it lands.15:40
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davidkranzjgriffith: I don't know if you are looking for more cases, but the tempest/volume problem just showed up in http://logs.openstack.org/13902/1/gate/gate-tempest-devstack-vm/13374/15:56
mnaserSeeing as there's quantum and nova-network right now, would changes to the current nova IPAM to support multiple subnets per network be accepted?15:57
jgriffithdavidkranz: yes... thank you15:57
davidkranznotmyname: Any more news about possibly giving two summit slots to QA?15:57
mnaserIn our use case, we use flat manager so migrating an entire deployment to Quantum just to get multiple subnets per network seems a big pain15:57
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mnaserand nova's backend can work with multiple subnets so its just a matter of the nova IPAM starting to provide it, unless someone has a better suggestion15:58
mordredwhy does openstack.common.utils:execute use greenthreads15:58
mnaserwe've sorta close to exhausted a /22 for public fixed ips and yeah15:58
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notmynamedavidkranz: I've got a swift meeting at 1pm (pacific) today. we'll be talking about the summit schedule. I don't anticipate any issues with handing them over, but I'll give you a final word by COB today15:58
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: fixes bug 1058429  https://review.openstack.org/1387915:58
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1058429 in keystone "run_test.sh produces no output" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105842915:58
davidkranznotmyname: OK, thanks!15:59
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mordreddavidkranz: to make things fun - could you not schedule any session in the QA track that I should be at on monday?15:59
mordredapparently I have an all-day board meeting...15:59
davidkranzmordred: The QA sessions are all late-morning through afternoon on Tuesday. Any issues with that?16:01
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jgriffithdavidkranz: Interesting, looks like this one finsihed up about 2.5 minutes past the alloted timeout16:03
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mordreddavidkranz: PERFECT16:04
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ttxswift stable/folsom branch created, all set16:18
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rmkHas anyone seen a situation where disconnecting a volume basically triggers a series of kernel traces on a compute node?  Completely reproducable in one environment we have.16:35
rmkIt's obviously not a nova issue but hoping someone else has seen this16:35
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gugljgriffith: ping16:42
gugljgriffith: do you know who is responsible for corporate contributor agreement for HP?16:43
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jgriffithgugl: Nope, sorry I sure don't16:54
gugljgriffith: k. tks.16:54
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rmkWell, figured it out.17:00
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rmkBad oneiric kernel.17:22
rmkoneiric 3.0.0-25-server is just broken17:23
rmkWhich is the current/latest kernel17:23
rmkIf there's a device mapper entry on top of a volume and you sever the iscsi connections (as is done while deleting a block device), you will end up with a dead system17:24
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rmksame process is fine on 3.0.0-17-server17:25
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johnpurgugl: check with eileen evans @ hp wrt the corporate contributor agreement17:36
gugljohnpur: k, tks.17:37
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vishyarosen: ping17:39
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vishyjgriffith: ping17:49
jgriffithvishy: poing17:50
vishyjgriffith: did you see my ping this weekend about nova -> cinder migration?17:51
jgriffithvishy: No, I did not17:51
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vishyjgriffith: I can't find any docs anywhere about how to migrate from nova-volume -> cinder so I made one: http://wiki.openstack.org/MigrateToCinder17:52
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vishyjgriffith: but it led to an interesting question17:52
vishyjgriffith: copy_ptgt_files: I'm trying to find the purpose of that command17:52
jgriffithvishy: Yeah, that may prove to be un-necessary17:53
jgriffithvishy: The idea was to move iscsi persistence files obviously17:53
vishyjgriffith: i guess my concern is a) there were no persistence files in essex17:53
vishyjgriffith: so does it create them on boot?17:54
vishyin folsom?17:54
jgriffithvishy: Hmmm...  I thought it was on certain actions17:54
jgriffithvishy: But that may be a gap17:54
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vishyjgriffith: it seems like what we really need is a way to create the files17:55
jgriffithvishy: agreed17:56
vishyjgriffith: so I think i should remove the copy the tgt files over17:56
vishyand we should figure out how to create them17:56
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jgriffithvishy: but it should also be in the nova-manage cmd for essex-->folsom17:56
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jgriffithvishy: I think I have a way to add them via the iscsi driver17:56
vishyjgriffith: well I was thinking more that it should recreate missing ones on boot17:57
jgriffithvishy: Even better, automate it in the init?17:57
vishyjgriffith: and we could backport that fix17:57
jgriffithvishy: Yes, I think that's the right way to do it17:57
vishyjgriffith: something you want to tackle?17:58
jgriffithvishy: Let me take a look and see if I can come up with a solution17:58
jgriffithvishy: Yep, I'll start looking at it today17:58
jgriffithvishy: BTW, I had an etherpad started that's basicly the same as your wiki17:58
jgriffithvishy: Thanks for doing the Wiki page17:59
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vishyjgriffith: ok I just want to have it documented in the release notes17:59
jgriffithYes, I'll transfer the info into the release notes after sorting the persistence stuff17:59
vishyjgriffith: can you also check to see if there is a workaround to force the files to get created18:00
vishyjgriffith: be nice to put that in the release notes as well18:00
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vishy(until the fix is in)18:00
jgriffithvishy: Yep, will do18:01
vishyannegentle: ping -> http://wiki.openstack.org/MigrateToCinder18:01
vishyannegentle: there will hopefully be a small addition once we figure out how to create the persistent volume conf files.18:01
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annegentlevishy: yay for migration info18:04
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vishyjgriffith: guess what?18:05
vishyjgriffith: I think we are good18:05
vishyjgriffith: init_host -> driver.ensure_export -> tgtadm.create_iscsi_target -> creates the conf file if it doesn't exist18:06
vishyjgriffith: at least that is how I read the code, haven't actually verified18:07
mnaserUhh18:08
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jgriffithvishy: I'm testing that now actually :)18:08
mnaserDoes anyone know what's the point / difference of nova.network.nova_ipam_lib and nova.network.quantum.nova_ipam_lib18:09
mnaserThey seem very similar in what they do with little diffs between them, notably the quantum one having a 'tad bit more code implemented.18:09
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jgriffithvishy: So that was the "certain actions" and is in fact the intention18:11
jgriffithvishy: I believe I tested this at one point, but will take another look to make sure18:12
vishymnaser: not completely sure, but I think the code moved at one point18:12
mnaserdoes sound like it18:13
vishymnaser: I didn't realize it was still in both locations18:13
mnaserthe quantum one does have some different things that have to do with quantum18:13
mnaserit also has functions like create_subnet that are never used anywhere in the codebase (according a grep -irl anyways)18:15
zykes-mnaser: you on essex18:16
mnaserzykes-: pulled trunk18:16
mnaserdevstack18:16
zykes-mnaser: created_subnet you mean subnet-create ?18:17
mnaserzykes-: no, under nova.network.quantum.nova_ipam_lib it has a bit more functioned implemented that dont seem to be used in the codebase18:17
mnaserlike create_subnet18:18
mnaseri don't know much of the quantum code base so i'm not sure18:18
zykes-ah18:18
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Sync openstack common and add policy  https://review.openstack.org/1390418:18
zykes-mnaser: I thought that quantum stuff in nova in folsom was just "proxied" over to the quantum server?18:18
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zykes-*goes to read*18:18
mnaserzykes-: seems to be the case in the quantumv2 module thats there18:19
zykes-mnaser: yeah, which is what you should use ;p18:19
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mnaseryeah but I'm not using quantum :p18:19
zykes-mnewby: hey you!18:19
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mnaseri'm making some changes to the nova IPAM in order to support multiple subnets per network as using quantum is way over kill because we use flatmanager18:20
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zykes-oh mnaser  :p18:24
zykes-ok18:24
zykes-mnaser: around mr ? :L)18:24
mnaserwrong highlight? ;p18:24
mnaserstrange nova.network.nova_ipam_lib seems to be newer18:25
zykes-asd18:25
vishysdague: blocked your merge here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13913/ sorry :(18:25
mnaservishy: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/357ffa7d3aa2124d9d7697a4bd492b7819646ba9#nova/network/nova_ipam_lib.py -- do you think that it might have just been forgotten left over?18:26
mnaserfrom the melange/quantum codebase?18:26
vishysdague: looks like it will fail gating anyway as that flag is not imported.18:27
mnaservishy: ton of functions that are implemented in it seem to be unused like create_subnet, delete_subnets_by_net_id, etc18:27
mnaserwhich are the only differences18:27
vishymnaser: i would ping danwent18:28
mnaserthink i'll try to do that18:28
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zykes-so vmware will support openstack <> vcenter tie ins18:29
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sdaguevishy: no worries18:31
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sdaguevishy: so just want to reverse the logic on that so that xen is the special case?18:33
vishysdague: I just put more explanation on the review18:33
vishysdague: no I want to remove the first block and the flag check altogether18:33
sdagueok, I'm fine with that :)18:33
vishyI wonder if dan prince is going to do a migration compaction for us again :)18:34
mnaservishy: just an fyi spoke with him and it was supposed to removed indeed!18:36
vishymnaser: cool, kill it!18:36
mnaser(Y)18:37
vishyttx: ping18:38
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sdaguevishy: so you want the flavor list with the ephem disks, or without?19:11
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sdaguevishy: never mind, saw the follow up comment19:13
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zykes-danwent: are you here ?19:14
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jtrananyone know if nova management-api was ever implemented?  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-devops/+spec/management-api19:15
sdaguejtran: I don't think so, I know there are some nova-manager commands that don't have api equivalents19:17
jtransdague: thx19:17
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jtransdague:  currently, there's no way to query services and register a service via nova api right?19:20
sdaguejtran: I don't know on those cases specifically. I did notice some missing functions around ip pools when doing some testing.19:21
jtransdague:  when testing against the standard api?  or a test branch of 'management-api'?19:21
sdaguejtran: this was in building sample api testing as part of folsom release19:22
jtranah i see19:22
jtrani did see the services example specifically on management-api blueprint wiki, so i assume i will have to wait for it.  http://wiki.openstack.org/ManagementAPI19:22
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sdaguevishy: ok, updated patch19:30
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arosenHi vishy19:31
arosensorry i was afk for you ping.19:31
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jgriffithvishy: Verified ensure_export handles it, there's also a work around by using tgt-admin --dump, but no reason to publish it unless somebody hits a problem.19:50
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vishyarosen: hi19:59
arosenHi vishy you pinged earlier.19:59
vishyarosen: so I was looking at the trigger_security_group_refresh thing19:59
vishyarosen: it absolutely seems like it shouldn't bee in manager19:59
notmynameswift meeting in #openstack-meeting in one minute19:59
arosenvishy:  yea i agree.20:00
vishyarosen: based on one of the tests, it seems like it was stuck in there to prevent deallocation if the security group refresh fails20:00
vishyarosen: test_fixed_ip_cleanup_fail in nova/tests/network/test_manager20:01
vishyarosen: git show 44132acb20:02
arosenyea i saw jenkins complaining about that. I was going to move it to network/api.py like you said but there is that circular import unless security groups are pulled out to its own file.20:02
vishyarosen: I fixed the circular import i think20:02
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vishyarosen: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13912/20:03
vishyarosen: I think based on that commit that the trigger_security_group refresh should happen before we deallocate the ip20:04
vishyarosen: although I'm a but unsure whether that actually does anything.20:04
vishyarosen: i.e. if allocated is still true, wouldn't it still be used in the rules?20:05
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vishyarosen: as far as i can tell the trigger will still be using the allocated ip so I think that it may be incorrect to trigger before.20:07
arosenvishy:  Yea I think we should trigger afterwards20:07
arosenvishy:  though imo I don't think trigger_security_group_members_refresh() is even needed. We have trigger_instance_[add/remove]_security_group_refresh()20:08
arosenwhen trigger_security_group_members_refesh() we don't  know who was added or removed just that something changed in that group_id.20:09
arosenwhere as the other functions tell you what actually happened and to who.20:10
zykes-vishy: is the vnc console working in Folsom ?20:10
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vishyzykes-: yessir20:27
zykes-vishy: what package in the ubuntu repo has the vnc / console stuff ?20:27
vishyarosen: ok, as long as you think that it will update the source groups stuff then we're probably ok20:27
vishyzykes-: assuming the cloud-archive stuff is up-to-date20:28
vishyzykes-: should be apt-get install nova-novncproxy20:28
vishywhich has a dependency on novnc and websockify20:28
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zykes-vishy: problem is that it has no init scripts20:38
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Update RPM SPEC to include new bandwidth plugin.  https://review.openstack.org/1391520:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove TestCase.assertNotRaises  https://review.openstack.org/1390920:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-keystoneclient: updating keystoneclient doc theme  https://review.openstack.org/1388220:40
vishyzykes-: so it isn't up to date20:40
vishymine has init scripts :)20:40
vishyzykes-: https://gist.github.com/381429120:41
vishyzykes-: but i had to remove stuff from novnc as well20:42
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zykes-vishy: yours what ? ;)20:50
zykes-package20:50
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zykes-vishy: you got a package built or ?20:58
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dolphm_annegentle: is there a preference on the tense used in release notes?21:05
annegentledolphm_: when reporting fixed bugs it can vary21:06
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annegentledolphm_: what are you trying to convey?21:06
dolphm_annegentle: heckj is establishing some notes for keystoneclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13841/21:06
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annegentledolphm_: past tense is probably fine, present probably better "Changes logging to report…" "Adds support for …" to describe the release itself.21:08
annegentledolphm_: really I don't personally care :)21:08
dolphm_annegentle: same -- i was looking for it to be self-consistent21:08
annegentledolphm_: yeah ongoing consistency I would fight for21:09
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chenxu_danwent: do you know who is working on quantum integration with devstack?21:15
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Clean up pep8 E127 violations  https://review.openstack.org/1333121:18
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danwentchenxu_:  its a team effort, several of us, mainly salvatore, garyk and myself21:28
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toranduwho21:31
torandudavidkranz: can you pls take a look at this tempest output? http://paste.openstack.org/show/21239/21:32
torandudavidkranz: at line 70121:33
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torandudavidkranz: I was looking at this w/ jaypipes. is this related to recent changes to keystone that might be affecting nova client?21:33
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torandudavidkranz: I'm not familiar w/ the changes. jaypipes suggested contacting you21:34
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notmynamedavidkranz: ping21:42
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Catch NotFound exception in FloatingIP add/remove  https://review.openstack.org/1313221:54
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: xenapi: Removing legacy swap-in-image.  https://review.openstack.org/1220921:56
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-keystoneclient: enabling i18n with Babel  https://review.openstack.org/1388421:56
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sdaguevishy: when you get a chance, if you can take a look again - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13913/ the hold from the first patch doesn't seem to clear with the update22:28
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-keystoneclient: updating base keystoneclient documentation  https://review.openstack.org/1384122:34
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toranducan someone pls approve me for openstack-cla?23:32
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toranduis there anyone around that can help me with that?23:35
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