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| boden | ayoung -- morning... let me know if you get a min for a quick question | 13:44 |
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| ayoung | boden, fire away | 13:51 |
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| ayoung | radez, I thinthe magic numbers are indicative of an ASN1 sequence for the header | 13:52 |
| boden | ayoung -- I was reviewing the REMOTE_USER changes posted by rhafer to his personal branch and also the comments you made on his changes via the email list -- safe to assume taking his changes + your comments is close to what we'd get delivered for this support? | 13:53 |
| radez | ayoung: yes, I'm not sure that we'll find a reason that they are, but I think we can trust that they are | 13:53 |
| ayoung | boden, that is correct | 13:53 |
| radez | ayoung: though talking to the infosec guys the other day I think there could be other prefixes to look for. | 13:53 |
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| ayoung | radez, you mean other ASN1 formats could show up there? | 13:54 |
| radez | no that proprietary tokens could start a different way was the feel I got from then | 13:54 |
| radez | *them | 13:54 |
| boden | ayoung -- a side question in hopes to save me some investigation... if HTTPD is not 'fronting' the pipeline, is there any other way the REMOTE_USER could get into the environ? | 13:54 |
| ayoung | radez, I assume that is correct, but that we will not see them. THat is why I would like to document what they really mean. | 13:54 |
| radez | ayoung: for openssl I thinkwe can trust the MII | 13:54 |
| boden | what I'm getting at is if REMOTE_USER is there -- is it safe/secure to assume only HTTPD put it there | 13:55 |
| ayoung | radez, care to try it out with NSS for comparison? | 13:55 |
| ayoung | boden, yes, it is safe | 13:55 |
| boden | ayoung -- thx much | 13:55 |
| radez | ayoung: I can take a shot at it | 13:55 |
| ayoung | boden, I mean, if someone messes up the pipeline configuration, they could inject it. But it can't come in from a user request | 13:56 |
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| boden | got it | 13:57 |
| ayoung | 0x30 82 == ASN1 Sequence | 13:57 |
| ayoung | from http://etherhack.co.uk/asymmetric/docs/rsa_key_breakdown.html | 13:58 |
| ayoung | but I'd like to know the spec that comes from | 13:58 |
| ayoung | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASN1#Standards | 13:59 |
| ayoung | boden, I think the 0x30 means sequence, and the 82 isthe length | 14:01 |
| boden | ayoung -- dont think that was for me :) | 14:01 |
| ayoung | So whatever follows is probably the header | 14:01 |
| ayoung | radez, ^^ | 14:02 |
| ayoung | boden you don't care about discovering the underlying dformat of PKI tokens? | 14:02 |
| radez | ayoung: that doc you referenced above | 14:03 |
| radez | say 30 82 02 5e (0x3082 == ASN.1 Sequence) | 14:03 |
| radez | and that 30 82 02 5e is the header | 14:03 |
| ayoung | radez, yeah, I am looking at http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com17/languages/X.690-0207.pdf | 14:04 |
| ayoung | page 10 | 14:04 |
| ayoung | So Hex 30 means sequence, followed by the length of that sequence. | 14:05 |
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| ayoung | the length things are strange. THat whole syntax is weeirddd | 14:07 |
| zigo | There used to be auth_uri and auth_token in /etc/glance/glance-api-paste.ini | 14:08 |
| zigo | Is this gone? | 14:08 |
| ayoung | radez, for example: { name "smith", ok True"} Gets formatted as a sequence of length 0x0a or 10. | 14:09 |
| ayoung | "smith" becomes 1605Smith and True becomes 0101FF | 14:10 |
| ayoung | That does not add up to 10, and I am stumped. | 14:11 |
| * zigo is trying to figure out how to write glance/debian/glance-common.postinst which has broken debconf handling ... | 14:11 | |
| ayoung | radez, so page 3 says: | Identifier Octets | Length Octets | Content Octets | or alternatively | Identifier Octets | Length Octets | Content Octets | End of Content Octets | | 14:13 |
| ayoung | for tags from 0 to 30 it is one octet. So I think we are solid on 30 being the tag | 14:14 |
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| ayoung | In the short form, the length octets shall consist of a single octet in which bit 8 is zero and bits 7 to 1 encode | 14:17 |
| ayoung | the number of octets in the contents octets (which may be zero), as an unsigned binary integer with bit 7 as the most | 14:17 |
| ayoung | significant bit. | 14:17 |
| ayoung | 82 = 10000010 is not short form. | 14:18 |
| ayoung | So long form: a) bit 8 shall be one; b) bits 7 to 1 shall encode the number of subsequent octets in the length octets, as an unsigned binary integer | 14:19 |
| ayoung | with bit 7 as the most significant bit; | 14:19 |
| ayoung | so even though they could have used the short form, they used the long form? THis is weird | 14:19 |
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| ayoung | So this says the there are 2 length octets in the sequence | 14:21 |
| ayoung | and the length is 02 5e | 14:21 |
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| ayoung | radez, so if we produced a really long document, one where you could not fit the length into two octets, say we needed 4, the second octet would be 10000100 or Ox84 | 14:23 |
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| radez | ayoung: hm, but that would fail our prefix test wouldn't it? | 14:24 |
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| ayoung | radez, yes it would | 14:25 |
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| ayoung | radez, so we should, at a minimum, handle 3082 3083 and 3084 | 14:26 |
| ayoung | radez, 308. is probably a good regex | 14:27 |
| ayoung | or 308\d | 14:27 |
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| radez | :q | 14:31 |
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| ayoung | radez, so lets make it a function. For now, we check for MII, or the Base64 equivalents for 3083 and 3084 | 14:43 |
| radez | kk | 14:43 |
| ayoung | actually, how long can we store in 82 | 14:43 |
| ayoung | It might be unreasonable to go longer | 14:43 |
| ayoung | so MII might be fine | 14:44 |
| radez | everything I can see | 14:44 |
| radez | seems that that is the case | 14:44 |
| radez | I don't think anyone is doing anything longer than 30 82 | 14:44 |
| ayoung | we are at 02 5e now | 14:44 |
| ayoung | 606 | 14:44 |
| ayoung | If we can go as long as 7FFF That is | 14:45 |
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| ayoung | 32767 | 14:45 |
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| ayoung | Lets state that tokens that large are not practical for HTTP | 14:46 |
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| radez | ayoung: your saying include that in the cmmit msg correct? | 14:47 |
| ayoung | radez, yes | 14:48 |
| ayoung | the whole explanation | 14:48 |
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| radez | ayoung: maybe we should put this as comment in the check | 14:54 |
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| radez | since there's multiple places in the code that do the check we can make a tirival function that does and check and has the comment that explains all this | 14:54 |
| radez | may be more practical for future understanding | 14:55 |
| radez | *trivial | 14:55 |
| ayoung | I'd like it to be a function that is called is_pki_token or something | 14:55 |
| radez | agreed, I'll update my commit | 14:55 |
| ayoung | radez, so, yes | 14:56 |
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| ayoung | eglynn, I tried to answer your questions in email, but if you have additional, please fire them at me here, and I will try to field them. I am not super up on the policy side of things, but understand that in Grizzly, we will have dolphm_zzz 's super V3 Api with which we can define policy as well | 15:11 |
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| ayoung | eglynn, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12806/ | 15:12 |
| ayoung | eglynn, let me find a pointer to the current doc, too | 15:12 |
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| eglynn | ayoung: thanks! | 15:13 |
| ayoung | eglynn, so role based access control (rbac) is written up here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/rbac-keystone | 15:13 |
| ayoung | eglynn, I think that putting together a case study of this use case will flush that pesky devil out of the details. | 15:14 |
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| eglynn | ayoung: yep, the obvious current use-case is the Heat example that you're aware of (the cfn-* scripts calling out from the instance to remote services) | 15:16 |
| eglynn | ayoung: we could certainly write it up in detail on the wiki ... | 15:16 |
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| ayoung | eglynn, a similar but different need for the same mechanism: content product, needs to be pushed to swift. For example, a render farm. Each VM is rendering a frame, and then they assemble small sequences into video which then gets uploaded to swift. It needs delayed access to swift, but only to add a new piece of data | 15:20 |
| ayoung | I'm sure there are other ways it is done now | 15:21 |
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| eglynn | ayoung: yep, that's another good one | 15:22 |
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| ctracey | ayoung: going tonight? | 15:24 |
| ayoung | ctracey, if enough people ask me nicely, I will...lot of travel right now, and I was waffling | 15:25 |
| ctracey | fair nuf | 15:26 |
| ayoung | ctracey, BTW, thanks for the Pointer to the mirantis talk. I was at a Hotel with a wifi service that lasts exactly 24 hours, and it timed out just as I was getting ready to thank you | 15:26 |
| ctracey | ha - no worries | 15:26 |
| ayoung | ctracey, did they say that they were actually using PKI tokens? | 15:26 |
| ctracey | they did not - only spoke of it as a new feature in folsom | 15:27 |
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| ctracey | 50K foot view of the architecture | 15:27 |
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| ayoung | eglynn, so, policy enforcement is not keystone's job, but I would suspect that something like a policy engine should make its way into openstack common. I wonder what that would look like? | 15:32 |
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| eglynn | ayoung: well the policy logic is being actively developed in openstack-common, e.g. https://review.openstack.org/14245 | 15:35 |
| eglynn | (not sure though if the common version is used by all the services ...) | 15:35 |
| ayoung | eglynn, yeah, I saw that discussion. Let me check the Summit schedule to make sure I can be at the discussion there | 15:37 |
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| ayoung | markmc, it doesn't look like there is an explicit Summit session dealing with Policy. Am I missing something? We certainly can discuss the Keystone side during the V3 api session | 15:41 |
| markmc | ayoung, there's isn't a session lined up, you're right | 15:42 |
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| ayoung | markmc, if you end up driving an unconference session on it, please let me know, and try to do so before Thursday. And definitely ping dolphm_zzz (when he awakes) as he is kindof the guru on the Keystone side | 15:44 |
| markmc | ayoung, I'm not planning on it | 15:44 |
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| joern_ | hi guys, I'd like to talk about the semantics of POST Requests of RESTful webservices. | 17:28 |
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| joern_ | I read that REST APIs should honor the semantics of POST as a "create resource" request, but yet OpenStack allows actions like rebooting, resizing a server through POST. Why is that? | 17:29 |
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| joern_ | Is the differentiation between POST and PUT not that strict after all? | 17:31 |
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| joern_ | what would you say is the semantics of POST? | 17:36 |
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| mordred | joern_: that's a general enough topic that you might have better luck with it on the mailin glist | 17:53 |
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| joern_ | hm i'm in need of quick insights though. | 17:55 |
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| mordred | bcwaldon? markmc? any opinion on this one? | 18:03 |
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| bcwaldon | mordred: wha | 18:12 |
| mordred | bcwaldon: nm. the person asking the question done gone | 18:13 |
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| annegentle | jgriffit2: around? | 18:20 |
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| vishy | annegentle: ping | 18:28 |
| annegentle | vishy: pong | 18:29 |
| vishy | annegentle: hi just wondering about api samples in docs | 18:29 |
| vishy | did you get them merged in? | 18:29 |
| annegentle | vishy: all the core ones are merged in, but none of the (94-ish?) extensions have the updated examples | 18:29 |
| vishy | annegentle: ok cool. There have been quite a few new ones added to trunk | 18:30 |
| vishy | I'm going to try and get all of those backported to folsom/stable this week | 18:30 |
| annegentle | vishy: yeah I noticed that when I pulled yesterday | 18:30 |
| vishy | * stable/folsom | 18:30 |
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| vishy | then maybe we can get a new set proposed in for the summit | 18:30 |
| vishy | :) | 18:30 |
| annegentle | vishy: oh nice. | 18:31 |
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| reed | details about live audio streaming from San Diego: http://www.openstack.org/blog/2012/10/participating-remotely-to-openstack-summit-2012/ | 18:43 |
| zykes- | only audio ? :| | 18:43 |
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| clayg | where do I file a bug for a bad example on http://api.openstack.org/ (volume create volume_type is expected to be the name, not an id (which is an integer instead of a uuid anyway)) | 18:48 |
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| jog0 | annegentle: I see a essex version of the docs (http://docs.openstack.org/essex/) and a trunk version but no folsom version (http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/) | 18:52 |
| annegentle | jog0: yep, we haven't cut the docs "release" yet | 18:53 |
| jog0 | annegentle: ahh, thanks. | 18:54 |
| annegentle | jog0: still working on the doc bug backlog | 18:54 |
| jgriffit2 | annegentle: Hey... | 18:59 |
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| jog0 | annegentle: perhaps a a coming soon page would be nice | 19:01 |
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| hemna | anyway to reset my keyring password for devstack? | 19:14 |
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| zykes- | hemna: just do "export OS_NO_CACHE=1" | 19:17 |
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| hemna | thnx | 19:43 |
| hemna | I just nuked the crypted_pass.cfg and restarted stack | 19:43 |
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| Apsu` | vishy: You around? | 20:33 |
| JoseSwiftQA | Is there anyone around that can answer a question about the volume attachments api? | 20:34 |
| vishy | Apsu`: sup? | 20:35 |
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| Apsu` | vishy: Saw you tag that ipv6 hairpin bugfix. Did anyone actually test the nwfilter definition I proposed in the bug? | 20:36 |
| Apsu` | vishy: I saw the gerrit commit, but no discussion anywhere about whether my proposal was correct or not. lol | 20:36 |
| vishy | Apsu`: ha! | 20:36 |
| vishy | Apsu`: I don't use ipv6 so I did not | 20:37 |
| Apsu` | srsly. I even said in the bug to please test it and leave feedback. | 20:37 |
| Apsu` | Me either. Not on VMs directly | 20:37 |
| vishy | Apsu`: I assume that the proposer tried it | 20:37 |
| Apsu` | I mean... my proposal makes sense. It should be the correct solution. And I assume they did too | 20:37 |
| vishy | Apsu`: sounds like we need some ipv6 openstack installs | 20:37 |
| Apsu` | But.... I figured I should try to find out, since it's kind of my suggestion :P | 20:37 |
| davidha | notmyname: I have completed building an apache mod_wsgi interface to swift and to do initial performance comparissons | 20:40 |
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| davidha | After two month intense work on a project and a long vacation, I hope to now return to this work and see how to best contribute it | 20:45 |
| davidha | I noticed that there is increasing interest in apache for keystone and wonder if apache interface is also of interest as a general openstack interface | 20:46 |
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| davidha | ayoung-afk: hi | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Filter users in LDAP backend (bug 1052925) https://review.openstack.org/13338 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1052925 in keystone "Filter users, tenants and roles in LDAP backend" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052925 | 21:09 |
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| gatuus | guys... Ganglia or NAgios?? | 21:42 |
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| gugl | just pull down stable/folsom for devstack today...I am getting g-api did not start | 21:44 |
| rootard | gatuus: the answer is clear: yes. | 21:44 |
| gatuus | yes what? | 21:44 |
| gugl | 2012-10-10 14:44:49 6119 CRITICAL glance [-] (406, u"PRECONDITION_FAILED - cannot redeclare exchange 'glance' in vhost '/' with different type, durable, internal or autodelete value", (40, 10), 'Channel.exchange_declare') | 21:47 |
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| ayoung-afk | davidha, whats up | 21:50 |
| rootard | gatuus: Sorry, I am feeling punchy... you don't currently run either of them? It seems like there are plugins for nagios in the Debian repo today but there are Ganglia plugins elsewhere. | 21:50 |
| gatuus | rootard: yes.. no problem.. mmmm.. yeah.. but I think I'm going in favor for nagios... | 21:52 |
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| davidha | ayoung-afk: hey, finally finding time to progress with the apache mod_wsgi interface | 22:04 |
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| davidha | ayoung-afk: was there any significant update on this subject in keystone or elsewhere in openstack taht I need to be aware of | 22:05 |
| davidha | off? | 22:05 |
| davidha | of? :) | 22:06 |
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| gatuus | Does anyone knows the "dashboard" admin password for Fedora??? | 22:33 |
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| med_ | vishy, I'm getting an error on Folsom compute nodes (after moving instances_path to a new directory | 22:42 |
| med_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1272205/ | 22:42 |
| med_ | any ideas what needs to happen? All of the nova-SERVICES on the compute node were restarted. | 22:43 |
| med_ | jgriffith, any idea? | 22:43 |
| rmk | med_: the backing location (if you're using qcow2) doesn't get changed automatically if you re-locate the dir | 22:44 |
| rmk | you'll have to manually update the disk files with qemu-img, symlink/bind mount/etc | 22:44 |
| med_ | rmk, I did an rsync from the old location to the new.... that's what I thought ould be the problem | 22:44 |
| med_ | (and there were no instances running at all) | 22:45 |
| med_ | nova delete 1..N prior to doing this. | 22:45 |
| rmk | I see so this isn't about any existing instances moving | 22:45 |
| med_ | nope. | 22:45 |
| med_ | there were some _base/ files (ephemeral sizes and somee UUID looking files) | 22:45 |
| med_ | but nothing else really. | 22:46 |
| rmk | those should have been ok | 22:46 |
| rmk | that error is definitely complaining about instances it still thinks are supposed to be around | 22:46 |
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| rmk | actually, libvirt looks angry | 22:47 |
| rmk | does virsh list return anything? | 22:47 |
| med_ | nothing | 22:48 |
| med_ | no items listed | 22:48 |
| rmk | but doesn't error.. ok | 22:48 |
| med_ | I'm going for the full reboot incase libvirt thinks things are ... odd. | 22:49 |
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| vishy | med_: permissions | 23:13 |
| vishy | med_: libvirt looks like it is having trouble reading/writing to the directory | 23:14 |
| vishy | i would check permissions of the dir structure all the way down to / | 23:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Proxy floating IP calls to quantum https://review.openstack.org/13007 | 23:42 |
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