Monday, 2012-12-03

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gongyshamotoki: ping01:31
amotokigongysh: pong01:31
gongyshamotoki: I remember we have quantum_enable = true|false in local_setting.py for horizon to load qantum module or not.01:32
gongyshamotoki:  right?01:32
amotokiCurrently it depends on whether keystone endpoint is defined.01:32
amotokiquantum_enable now does not exist I believe.01:33
gongyshso the GUI for quantum will be disable if I does not have quantum endpoint in keystone, right?01:34
amotokiyes, though I have not explicitly do so.01:35
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amotokiThere is no horizon configuration change when we move from nova-network to quantum and vice versa.01:35
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amotokigongysh: I tested now. After I removed quantum endpoint, I did not see 'network' panel in Horizon.01:38
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gongyshamotoki: cool. thanks01:39
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stevebakevuntz: hey, are you about?03:49
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zyluosalv-orlando, ping04:05
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nubi3_hay guys, i have problem with glance, any one can help me04:15
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nubi3_guys ???04:20
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amotokigongysh: ping04:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Use json instead of jsonutils in rpc.impl_fake.  https://review.openstack.org/1729106:34
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gongyshamotoki:  he07:27
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amotokigongysh: you there?07:48
gongyshamotoki: yes07:49
amotokiI have a question about quantumclient.07:49
amotokiI want to clear list attribute in *-update. For example, I want to clear dns_nameserver by subnet-update.07:49
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amotokibut i could not find the way to specify an empty list.07:50
amotokigongysh: is there any way to do this?07:50
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gongyshamotoki: no, there is not way now.07:51
amotokigongysh: thanks. I will call directly to do it.07:52
gongyshamotoki: I think we can add it.07:52
amotokigongysh: I think so too. actually I am testing secgroup patch and try to clear secgroup for the port.07:52
gongyshamotoki: what do u mean by 'call directly to do it'?07:52
amotokigongysh: invoke python or ipython and import quantumclient and ...07:53
gongyshamotoki: sure, you can do it by python lib.07:53
amotokigongysh: very manual way :-(07:53
gongyshamotoki: I will create a bug for it.07:54
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amotokigongysh: thanks.07:55
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nubi3_any ones here ???08:30
markmcmarkmc: mornin'08:31
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* eglynn typed /nick instead of /whois ... too early in morning08:33
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nubi3_i have error in instace08:36
nubi3_any one can help me ???08:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fixes import order nits  https://review.openstack.org/1732708:40
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Hiteshsalv-orlando: Hi Salvatore09:21
Hiteshsalv-orlando: I have some questions related to extension, is it good time to ask?09:22
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Removes unused code in quantum.common  https://review.openstack.org/1733409:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: check the redirected path on the request, not the response  https://review.openstack.org/1719309:57
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alogadolphm: the problem of not being a native-english speaker ;-)10:31
dolphmaloga: no worries, that's what reviews are for! plus, we all make the same mistakes :)10:38
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Implement /meters to make discovery "nicer" from the client  https://review.openstack.org/1719111:54
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garykttx: ping12:53
ttxgaryk: pong12:54
garykttx: something seems to have happened with the permissions for stable on gerrit. any idea where i can look to see what has happened?12:54
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ttxgaryk: not sure, you'll have to ask on #openstack-infra12:55
ttxgaryk: quantum stable/* +1/+2 permissions ?12:56
garykttx: correct12:56
garykttx: ok, i'll ask them. thanks12:56
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ttxgaryk: can you see that ? https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/quantum,access12:56
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garykttx: yes12:57
ttxlooks like it describes what you're looking for12:57
ttxnot sure that's what ends up being used though12:57
ttxgiven that https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/nova,access is considerably simpler12:58
garykttx: ok, thanks. seems that the folsom has gone for a cup of coffe12:58
ttxgaryk: not sure.. there seems to be some default12:58
ttxsince nova perms are quite basic as you can see12:58
ttxgaryk: in all cases, you'll need CI help to fix it12:59
garykttx: ok, thanks.12:59
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enikanorov_salv-orlando: ping13:06
enikanorov_hello13:06
salv-orlandoenikanorov_: hi13:06
enikanorov_how is it going?13:06
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salv-orlandonot bad. busy as usual. Catching up on emails, I've been out of the loop for a few days as I had to focus on something else.13:07
enikanorov_I see. I suggest you've not been following device management/scheduling discussion13:08
enikanorov_i feel it is somewhat relative if not dependent on your part of work13:08
enikanorov_so I'd like to see your participation in that discussion some time soon13:09
salv-orlandoI'm starting to read that thread now actually (I've seen the mail in past days, but I have to admit I just flagged them as important on gmail and let them go)13:09
enikanorov_ok, great13:11
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garykjeblair: ping14:13
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maploindoes anyone know why nova doesn't include the migrate.cfg file for sqlalchemy-migrate? There are recent/pending patches for this in other components. But after I saw it in nova, it made me wonder if there might be something more to it that I'm not seeing.14:32
maploin*the nova python package that is14:32
maploinoh, well. I just submitted another review request14:41
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ndipanovo14:46
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ndipanovooops wrong window... sorry.14:47
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garykjeblair: ping14:50
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Rename Config osapi_compute_link_prefix to osapi_volume_base_URL  https://review.openstack.org/1579715:09
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: On confirm_resize, update correct resource tracker  https://review.openstack.org/1726415:14
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dimsmarkmc, added a code snippet in https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1085984/comments/1 - is adding a "replace" method the right solution?16:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1085984 in oslo "glance-manage --version is broken" [Medium,Confirmed]16:27
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markmcdims, cool stuff16:28
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markmcdims, we should probably add some tests to oslo for this16:28
markmcdims, to check that e.g. it works now that we've ported from optparse to argparse16:28
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Add metadata_agent.ini to config_path in setup.py.  https://review.openstack.org/1736216:29
markmcdims, look at --version test in test_cfg.py for inspiration, but this would be a test case for version.py not cfg.py16:29
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dimsmarkmc, there is a test_version in test_cfg.py in olso16:29
dimsah yes16:29
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markmcdims, yeah, it's a test for deferred_version_string though16:30
dimswill try to recreate with test case first and then cut a patch16:30
dimsy16:30
markmcdims, create a ConfigOpts object, pass a deferred_version_string to conf() and parse --version16:30
markmcdims, cool stuff16:31
dimsthanks will do that16:31
markmcdims, the minidns patch turned out really nice in the end, right? :)16:31
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dimsmarkmc, absolutely!!!!16:41
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ayoungmarkmc, I realized that I don't know what the Oslo library is going to be called.  I assume python-openstackcommon or python-oslo.  Has that been decided?16:45
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markmcayoung, see "library releases" in https://etherpad.openstack.org/grizzly-oslo16:45
ayoungmarkmc, thanks16:46
markmcayoung, we'll be starting with oslo-config: https://github.com/markmc/oslo-config16:46
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ayoungmarkmc, does it need to be python-  for setup.py reasons?16:47
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markmcayoung, no16:47
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ayoungmarkmc, ok, so oslo-config is going to be a top level git repo?  And if, as I foresee in the future,  some of the crypto stuff needs its own place to live, it would be, say oslo-crypto?16:48
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markmcayoung, yes, after a period in oslo-incubator.git16:48
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hub_caphas anyone set up the oslo wsgi.py server to actually run? im seeing an issue w/ using the log in eventlet, wondering if anyone has advice16:50
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ayoungdolphm_, sounds like we should push on getting the swift memcache ring in to https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator if it isn't there yet16:51
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markmcayoung, fyi, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/eventlet-safe-memcache-client16:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Configurable exec_dirs to find rootwrap commands  https://review.openstack.org/1676617:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix test suite to use MiniDNS  https://review.openstack.org/1695017:04
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Added sample tests to deferred delete API.  https://review.openstack.org/1675417:06
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Renaming xml test class in sample tests of consoles API.  https://review.openstack.org/1684117:12
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hub_capim having an issue w/ oslo/log.py integration. When i call logging.setup("reddwarf") in a bin script, _all_ of my other getLogger() calls have to have modules that start wiht reddwarf for logging to actually happen. Is there someone who has set this up and can help me out?17:22
jgriffithzul: ping17:22
zuljgriffith: what did i break now/17:22
jgriffithzul: Not a thing :)17:23
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zuljgriffith: whats up?17:23
jgriffithzul: but wondering/trying to test something with dm-thin on 12.0417:23
zuljgriffith: dm-thin?17:23
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jgriffithzul: Yeah, I think it's going to solve my snapshot performance and dd hang issues17:24
jgriffithzul: But I don't know what the offiical stance is in Ubuntu on it's use (experimental etc)17:24
zuljgriffith: never heard of dm-thin17:24
zuljgriffith: source?17:24
jgriffithzul: well that's not promising :)17:24
jgriffithzul: it's part of lvm217:24
zuljgriffith: should be in 12.04 then :)17:25
jgriffithzul: yeah, I'm getting it up and running there now17:25
jgriffithzul: just wanted to see if you had any superior knowledge about it :)17:25
zuljgriffith: nope :)17:25
jgriffithzul: alrighty... well then I'll let ya know how it works out :)17:25
zuljgriffith: coolness17:26
zuljgriffith: if you need anything else lemme know17:26
markmchub_cap, see if this shines any light on your problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/107324117:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1073241 in oslo "the root logger is not got right" [Undecided,Incomplete]17:26
hub_capoh sweet markmc that looks like my problem17:26
hub_capthe eventlet integration in wsgi (using a WritableLogger) is _not_ writing :P17:27
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markmchub_cap, cool :)17:28
hub_capmarkmc: is that bug being worked on? it looks like the review got abandonated17:28
markmchub_cap, yeah, looks like it needs a prod17:29
hub_capkk im on it, i cant get the wsgi stuff to actually log which is not good for troubleshooting :P17:29
markmcgreat17:30
hub_capmarkmc: has anyone actually hooked up all these suckers in a app? or is it more of the diff projects just using a bit here and there?17:30
hub_capim trying to use it exclusively instead of wrapping a method here and there...17:30
markmchub_cap, check ceilometer, it may be17:31
markmchub_cap, I actually thought no-one was using it and it was just a stale copy of nova's code17:32
hub_cap:)17:33
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hub_capdhellmann: hey dude i have a question regarding a oslo review to logging u got a few min? https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/107324117:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1073241 in oslo "the root logger is not got right" [Undecided,Incomplete]17:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes import nit in test_zmq  https://review.openstack.org/1718017:42
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes update.py issue with EOL style on Windows  https://review.openstack.org/1729617:42
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Rename utils.py to strutils.py  https://review.openstack.org/1703217:43
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Improve cfg's argparse sub-parsers support  https://review.openstack.org/1681417:44
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix set_default() with boolean CLI options  https://review.openstack.org/1688917:44
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mnewbyjaypipes: *ping*18:01
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jaypipesmnewby: pong18:02
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mnewbyjaypipes: following up on your comments on the quantum tempest tests...18:04
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jaypipesmnewby: kk18:05
mnewbyjaypipes: I wanted to clarify why there was logic to repeatedly attempt to remove a resource.  see: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12485/5/tempest/smoke.py18:05
jaypipesmnewby: ya, go on.18:06
mnewbyjaypipes: The async nature of some API's (say, vm deletion in nova) requires either general case deletion handling, like you see here, or special case handling.18:06
mnewbyjaypipes: In either case, Tempest effectively has to make an async api call into a sync operation.18:06
mnewbyjaypipes: the general case handling would appear to be preferable (less work). what are your thoughts?18:06
jaypipesmnewby: sure, but repeated calls to delete() != repeated calls to status() after a single call to delete().18:07
jaypipesmnewby: my suggestion would be to use a wait_for_status loop instead of multiple calls to thing.delete()18:07
jaypipesmnewby: b/c, AFAIK, no OpenStack API DELETE REST call should be executed multiple times to achieve the delete.18:07
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mnewbyjaypipes: it's not a broken api, but i can see your point.18:08
davidkranznotmyname: ping18:08
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jaypipesmnewby: though I understand that the *status* of deleted may take some time to show up after the 201/204 is returned18:08
mnewbyjaypipes: the current approach would execute delete, then continue, so that a subsequent related deletion might be waiting on that first delete18:08
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mnewbyjaypipes: you'd prefer to see the deletion method not return until the resource is seen as deleted18:09
davidkranzIf we need some one with deep swift knowledge to review a tempest test, who do you recommend to ask?18:09
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mnewbyjaypipes: the only concern i have is that each type of resource might have different indication of deletion18:09
mnewbyjaypipes: or is the absence of the resource a common sign?18:09
notmynamedavidkranz: any of the swift core devs. I don't know about their current time availability, though18:10
jaypipesmnewby: I think it would be easier to talk in specifics. could you elaborate on a specific example from the quantum API?18:10
mnewbyjaypipes: boot a vm with a port on a network.18:10
mnewbyjaypipes: delete said vm.  then delete said subnet.18:11
mnewbyjaypipes: the subnet deletion requires the vm to be removed and the port allocated to it on the subnet removed as well.18:11
davidkranznotmyname: I understand. But there is no mechanism to ask "any of the swift core devs" so I was wondering it some one could volunteer to route requests.18:11
davidkranznotmyname: I don't expect this to happen all the time.18:11
mnewbyjaypipes: the vm deletion is of course async.18:11
jaypipesmnewby: and how does calling delete () in a loop on the subnet resource solve this problem?18:11
mnewbyjaypipes: eventually the vm will have been removed and quantum will allow removal of the subnet since no more ports are allocated on it18:12
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notmynamedavidkranz: is this a patch in gerrit or something that hasn't been submitted yet? most of the core devs are available on IRC (generally more active in #openstack-swift)18:13
mnewbyjaypipes: again, it's a choice between deletion of a given resource knowing how to detect removal, vs related deletions simply repeating (with a timeout of course) until they can succeed18:13
jaypipesmnewby: I think it would be appropriate in this case then to wait for the VM deletion to "complete" -- in other words, wait for the status to be 'deleted', and then try deleting the subnet. would you agree with that?18:13
davidkranznotmyname: Ah. I didn't know about #openstack-swift. I can ask there. This would be for a patch in gerrit.18:13
mnewbyjaypipes: in this specific case, sure...18:14
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davidkranznotmyname: Nothing is needed right at this moment. Thanks.18:14
mnewbyjaypipes: my concern is whether that approach can be easily generalized18:14
mnewbyjaypipes: frankly, openstack's inability to perform operations synchronously is a huge pita18:14
jaypipesmnewby: part of the reason that the method here pops resources in reverse order is to address these kind of issues. So I'd prefer to go the following route:18:15
jaypipesa) add a fn_wait_status parameter to the method that would contain a callable that would return True when a resource can be considered deleted18:15
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jaypipesb) if fn_wait_status is not None, then call the timeout/wait function until True is returned or a timeout occurs18:16
mnewbyhow about 'synchronous' ;)18:16
jaypipesmnewby: sure18:16
mnewbyjaypipes: Sure, I can do that.18:16
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jaypipesmnewby: but again, it's not about synchronous vs. asynchronous. it's more about determining if a resource is in a particular state...18:16
mnewbyjaypipes: And as an aside, what do you think of adding this capability to the clients?18:17
jaypipesmnewby: I would*definitely* love to see a consistent way in the various clients of doing this like this.18:17
jaypipesmnewby: and having a def delete(wait_for_status=False) type of thing would be excellent.18:17
mnewbyjaypipes: I guess my point is that if I make a call, I want the option of that call not returning until it has been attempted and succeeded or failed.  To me, that is pretty much the meaning of synchronous.18:18
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mnewbyjaypipes: 'blocking' vs 'nonblocking', 'async' vs 'sync'18:18
jaypipesmnewby: sure.18:18
jaypipesmnewby: I understand you.18:19
jaypipesmnewby: that's fine by me.18:19
mnewbyjaypipes: Ok, I'll make the change in any case.  Thank you for the feedback.18:19
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jaypipesmnewby: thank *you*! :)18:19
mnewby:)18:20
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vishyDaviey: I think your the only official stable-essex reviewer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16722/ :)19:03
vishysmoser: ping19:03
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smoservishy, here.19:05
vishysmoser: hi. Did you get a chance to check out my reviews?19:05
smosernot yet. i promise today. harlowja pinged me about that too.19:06
harlowjaya, smoser such a slacker, haha19:07
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smoserright now, only 1/2 of instances successfully find user-data on our daily cloud images....19:08
smoserso that is kind of high prioirity (and that bug got SRU'd to quantal)19:08
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harlowja1/2, odd19:10
harlowjavishy: i can look at review also, after i rebase some nova changes and resolve them19:10
harlowja*if smoser is to busy*19:11
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smoserand harlow is like a super smoser19:13
harlowjalol19:13
harlowjaand smoser is like a smoser19:13
harlowja*still super*19:13
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smoservishy, so just curious...19:16
smoserwhy would i ever post a encrypted password19:17
smoserwhat good is that19:17
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jgriffithzul: booo... wrong version of dmsetup and libdevmapper in Precise to expose dm-thin19:19
zuljgriffith: sorry19:20
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jgriffithzul: Maybe you could back-port them from quantal as standard versions :)19:20
zuljgriffith: erm19:21
zuljgriffith: what about raring?19:21
jgriffithzul: what do you mean?  same version in Raring I believe19:22
jgriffithzul: Or you mean just look forward to Raring?19:22
zuljgriffith:  just looking forward to raring19:22
jgriffithzul: ahh... got ya19:22
jgriffithzul: Well we'll be fine there I assume as it's in precise19:23
jgriffithzul: errr.. quantal!!!19:23
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smosergah.19:24
smoserit seems euca-describe-images does not show private images that you own.19:24
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smoser(bug in nova api, not in client)19:25
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harlowja:(19:27
harlowjanot good19:27
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vishysmoser: so the idea being that a user could download and decrypt the password19:33
vishysmoser: I'm trying to do this https://gist.github.com/4008762 <-- without having to use the console19:33
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vishyjgriffith: did i tell you i tried the dm-zero using cow and the performance was just horrible?19:34
jgriffithvishy: yeah :(19:35
jgriffithvishy: I've been messing with dm-thin provisioning with good results19:35
jgriffithvishy: but it's not going to help us19:35
jgriffithvishy: Until the next LTS I guess19:35
vishyjgriffith: nice dm-thin would stop us from having to zero volumes19:36
jgriffithvishy: Yeah, among other things19:36
jgriffithvishy: Almost no hit in performance with snapshots19:36
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vishythat's awesome19:36
vishyi still don't comprehend why my dm-zero + snapshot was so slow tbh19:37
jgriffithvishy: Yeah, part of that I still don't get19:37
jgriffithvishy: but it seems like with lvm snaps you're really just kinda screwed in terms of perf19:37
jgriffithvishy: maybe it's worth taking another look at, because it really doesn't make sense19:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-swiftclient: Adding segment size as another x-object-manifest component  https://review.openstack.org/1695619:41
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: add state_path sample back to l3_agent.ini file  https://review.openstack.org/1736319:49
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixing modulename so eventlet will log properly.  https://review.openstack.org/1738620:01
anteayasdague: ping?20:03
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Vekany cfg experts around?  I just uncovered something that I think is a bug, and wanted to check with someone to confirm it is before I submit a bug and push a fix for it.20:11
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sdagueanteaya: pong20:16
anteayasdague: hello, thank you for your response. I have a huge favour to ask of you.20:17
anteayasdague: I am an applicant with the GNOME outreach program for women program, sponsoring internships for women with various FOSS organizations, OpenStack has 3 spaces.20:18
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anteayasdague: I am asking on behalf of another applicant who wants to work with documentation, Anne Gentle is offline right now and the application deadline is in a few hours.20:19
anteayasdague: would you have some time to review this bug and post any comments if you have any? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/108610820:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1086108 in openstack-manuals "Misspelling errors on CLI manual file" [Undecided,New]20:19
sdagueanteaya: sure, I'll look20:20
anteayasdague: thank you20:20
smoservishy, still there? so https://gist.github.com/4008762 makes some sense, other than the fact that you put a public key into the image, so it would have made sense to use *that* for auth rather than a password. (or ssh in with it and set 'passwd')20:21
smoserbut i'm guessing you had something further in mind.20:21
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anteayasdague: ladquin is the applicant, she has about 4 hours left to submit a patch. Even if the patch isn't accepted in the 4 hours, she needs to have a submission on her application.20:21
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sdagueanteaya: ok, if you are chatting with her, if you could get her to submit it as an actual patch file instead of just the updated file, that would be great20:23
anteayaladquin: did you hear sdague's feedback?20:24
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anteayasdague: I have only run maven one time previously. Do you have the time to spend with her, or is that too much of an imposition?20:25
sdagueanteaya: sure, I can try. I'll admit I only slightly know the manuals repo, but I'll do what I can to help20:25
anteayasdague: I'm so grateful to you, thank you. She is very lovely to work with, unfortunately the lack of time right now is causing a little stress.20:26
ladquinanteaya, sdague: sure, thanks! I'm on submitting a patch to gerit20:28
anteayaladquin: did you read sdague's feedback?20:28
sdagueladquin: ok, great, if you are already on the cla, that's the better place to put it20:28
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ladquinsdague: ok, let me try that..20:30
sdagueladquin: sounds good, let me know if you hit a bump in the road20:31
ladquinsdague: sure, thanks!20:31
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vishysmoser: this is a prototype for things like windows which don't allow ssh keys20:45
vishysmoser: it is much easier to get it working in linux and then say. Ok do this20:46
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vishysmoser: for consistency we might as well support the password on everything20:46
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Davieyvishy: thanks, will +2 it shortly20:54
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ladquinsdague: question.. I've tried to upload the patch... but it says of course that I'm not allowed to merges21:37
ladquinsdague: is that ok?21:37
sdagueladquin: right, if you aren't on the CLA yet, it won't let you push into gerrit21:37
sdagueyou can attach to the bug instead21:37
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Added --top option to swift-recon -d  https://review.openstack.org/1705421:39
smoservishy, i added a -1, but really jsut because i'm concerned about config-drive/meta-data-service and the specificness of "password" compared to a more generic solution.21:39
ladquinsdague: I did, though.. I thought I was on the CLA...21:39
sdagueladquin: are you on the list here - http://wiki.openstack.org/Contributors ?21:40
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ladquinsdage: yup21:41
sdagueyes, ok, I see you there, did you apply to the openstack-cla group on launchpad?21:41
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sdaguehttps://launchpad.net/~openstack-cla21:42
sdagueyes, looks like you are there21:42
creihtIs there some sort of basic instal and config of keystone for dummies doc anywhere?21:42
sdagueladquin: post the error you are getting here - http://paste.openstack.org/21:43
creiht(without resorting to running devstack)21:43
ladquinsdague: http://paste.openstack.org/show/27325/21:44
sdagueladquin: have you previously logged into http://review.openstack.org /21:47
sdague?21:47
sdaguefrom the web21:48
ladquinsdague: seems like I was, but there is nothing there...21:49
sdaguelets ask the infrastructure folks, jump over to #openstack-infra21:49
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ladquinsdague: sure21:52
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vishysmoser: explained my rationale on the mp21:58
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mnewbynati_ueno: I'm still seeing the same problem :(22:09
mnewbynati_ueno: AMQPChannelException: (406, u"PRECONDITION_FAILED - parameters for queue 'notifications.info' in vhost '/' not equivalent", (50, 10), 'Channel.queue_declare')22:10
nati_uenocould you paste it here?22:10
flaper87This review needs approval, could any of you take a look? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17004/22:10
nati_uenomnewby: Ah you should delete /opt/stack all22:10
flaper87pls :)22:10
nati_uenomnewby: code should be updated22:10
mnewbynati_ueno: ok, willdo22:10
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mroddenwould some nova cores be able to take a look at this? just waiting approval  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17102/22:13
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vishysmoser: why can't you just test using latest?22:21
vishysmoser: I think the fact that it is write-once and a single key makes a huge difference22:22
vishyif someone wants to 'hack' it to write other data they could. But they could also just use the console log.22:22
vishysmoser: there is much less surface area to attack if all you have is a write once single-key22:23
vishyyou can't lock up the db for example by sending a bunch of writes. You don't have to worry about quota checking, etc.22:24
vishysmoser: I would love to have arbitrary metadata but there are two major issues: 1) we have to provide an alternate means for people who aren't using the metadata service 2) we have to add a bunch of security since it isn't a trusted source.22:25
mnewbynati_ueno: no joy :(  latest everything, clean devstack, quantum + dhcp agent still broken due to that amqp error22:26
mnewbynati_ueno: any idea how to debug?22:27
nati_uenomnewby: I just found that for quantum alos ...22:27
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nati_uenomnewby: I filed the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/108616722:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1086167 in quantum "AMQPChannelException: (406, u"PRECONDITION_FAILED - parameters for queue 'notifications.info' in vhost '/' not equivalent", (50, 10), 'Channel.queue_declare') " [Undecided,New]22:27
nati_uenoIt looks dhcp is working in my env22:27
nati_uenohmm22:27
mnewbynati_ueno: what caused this?  it's a showstopper.22:27
nati_uenoI'm not sure yet22:28
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mnewbynati_ueno: so much for working on anything else.  can't test anything until the underlying system is working.22:29
mnewbynati_ueno: note that reproduction does not require floating ip creation22:29
mnewbynati_ueno: trying to boot a vm has the same result22:29
nati_uenomnewby: hmm boot vm is working in my env22:30
nati_uenoand ping to private ip22:30
nati_uenohmmm22:30
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mnewbynati_ueno: my clean devstack install can't boot vm's, so i'm assuming you have lingering state that allows you to boot.22:30
nati_uenomnewby: could be22:31
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mnewbynati_ueno: are you looking into this, or do you know who to talk to?  the fact that this blocks execution of quantum is pretty damn serious.22:35
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mnewbydanwent: help?22:38
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Kiallnati_ueno / mnewby: "PRECONDITION_FAILED - parameters for queue '..' not equivalent" Usually mean you're trying to redefine a queue that already exists using incompatible params..22:39
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Kialleg it's setup in rabbit as durable=True, but you're asking for durable=False22:40
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mnewbyKiall: So the fix is…what? I'm not rabbit expert, and I'm not messing around with anything.  This is a devstack build pulling from top of tree for all services.22:41
nati_uenomnewby: I'm looking for solution22:41
nati_uenoKiall: Thanks for your information22:41
Kiallmnaser, delete the queue from rabbit, and then it should be redefined correctly..22:41
nati_uenoKiall: Ahh OK I'll try to setup durable=True22:41
KiallBear in mind that everything that wants to use that queue need the same settings for it..22:41
danwentmnewby: what's up?22:42
danwentah, this issue.22:42
mnewbydanwent: It looks like Kiall is helping.  Quantum is currently broken on devstack out of the box.22:42
danwenti think markmcclain is looking into it as well.22:42
mnewbybit of a showstopper, this.22:42
Kiallmnaser, Well .. I'm only taking a guess based on that 1 error message ;)22:43
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nati_uenoI'm trying rabbit_durable_queues=True22:43
mnewbywhoever committed the change that caused this should be spanked!22:44
nati_uenomnewby: quantum-gate may block this kind of issue22:45
danwentnati_ueno: that was my first thought as well… we need to get gating done!! :)22:45
Kiallmnewby / nati_ueno: `sudo rabbitmqctl list_queues -p / name durable`22:45
mnewbyso somebody changed the notifications queues to be durable...22:46
KiallFind the notifications.info queue, and the true / false next to it will tell you if it's durable or not22:46
nati_uenodanwent: Same thought22:46
mnewbyany idea as to why this change was made?22:46
nati_uenoKiall: I'm restarting stack.sh with new config22:46
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nati_uenohttps://gist.github.com/df1a5c1de7658137940522:47
nati_uenoahhh22:47
Kiallnati_ueno, L6 tells me that notifications.info IS durable..22:48
nati_uenoThis is difficult to solve22:48
nati_uenonotifications.info      true22:48
nati_uenoKiall: Yes22:48
nati_uenobut22:48
KiallSo any attempt to connect to with durable=False will fail22:48
nati_uenoq-plugin        false22:48
markmcclainit's actually kind of easy to fix22:48
KiallI wonder if nova defined that queue, and set it to durable?22:48
nati_uenoThis means quantum using both type of queue22:48
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mnewbySo the quantum config needs to be confgured for the queues to be durable?22:48
mnewbymarkmcclain: do tell :)22:48
nati_uenoah just remote all22:48
nati_uenotypo22:48
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nati_uenoclean existing queue may fix all22:49
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mnewbynati_ueno: didn't work for me22:49
Kiallnati_ueno, not necessarily.. quantum could be using all durable=False, but if, for example, nova defines the queue first with durable=True.. It will still fail22:49
markmcclainwe should be able to change the Q name.. because we actually don't listen on that Q22:49
* markmcclain looking at code22:49
Kiallmarkmcclain, https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/notifier/rpc_notifier.py#L2522:50
nati_uenoKiall: so nova is using durable=True, quantum should also use same22:50
markmcclaintopics and queues are different22:50
Kiallnati_ueno, Maybe! I havent checked if nova is now.. Just suggesting that it may not be quantum using 2 different types22:50
markmcclainwe want to leave the topic the same22:51
markmcclainotherwise the ceilometer folks will not be happy22:51
Kiallmarkmcclain, no.. a in AMQ speak, you have topic/direct/fanout queues22:51
nati_uenomarkmcclain: I agree22:51
KiallAMQP speak*22:51
Kialltopic is just 1 type of queue..22:51
mnewbymarkmcclain: the ceilometer folks only want to read off a single queue then?22:52
harlowjavishy: where is your cloud-init branch?22:52
markmcclainmost of their stuff if configured to look for the notification.info topic22:52
nati_uenomnewby: I believe so22:52
markmcclainif you create two processes with the same topic and queue_name then I want to say the mesasges are read round robin22:53
markmcclainthat's why rabbit enforces that the queues be created with the same opts22:53
mnewbymarkmcclain: so fix is?  I'd like to continue working...22:54
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markmcclaintrying to find the exact place to patch22:54
nati_uenoOK fixed22:54
nati_uenoI i22:54
nati_uenoI'm going to push patch now22:54
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nati_uenohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/16506/22:57
nati_uenowill fix the issue22:57
nati_uenomnewby: Could you uninstall rabbitmq-server and delete /var/lib/rabbitmq again? Then try the ptach22:58
nati_uenos/ptach/patch/22:58
mnewbyok, will do. danke all that have assisted in this!22:58
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vishyharlowja: i don't have a cloud-init branch22:58
nati_uenomnewby: np. This is alos needed for quantum-gating22:58
harlowjahmmm, is just openstack code, or both?22:59
harlowjaor neither :-p22:59
mnewbynati_ueno: I would suggest breaking out the part that fixes the bug.  It needs to go in straight away, and is unrelated to the change you pointed me to.22:59
harlowjaor just the script u have so far22:59
nati_uenomnewby: We are fixing some bug in one commit if it is small23:00
mnewbynati_ueno: What is the fix?  I can't even see it?23:00
mnewbynati_ueno: Very bad changeset hygiene not to know why changes are being made.23:00
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nati_uenomnewby: stack.sh line 136023:01
nati_uenomnewby: hmm I understand what you are saying. but this is just one line change.. hmm23:01
mnewbynati_ueno: and again - this is a showstopper.  it may be a small change, but it is more important than everything else in the changeset since without it quantum is broken.23:01
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mnewbynati_ueno: And if it's a simple one-liner, very easy to get approved.23:01
nati_uenomnewby: OK I'll push separate patch justnow23:01
mnewbynati_ueno: danke!23:02
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nati_uenomnewby: Sure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17424/ :)23:05
nati_uenodanwent: Could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17424/ ?23:05
markmcclainthe downside of setting the Queues to durable23:05
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danwentnati_ueno: i can test, though I wouldn't say I understand the full ramifications of setting that value23:06
mnewbydanwent: it's already been set elsewhere23:06
mnewbydanwent: quantum needs config parity to not be broken23:06
danwentmnewby: yup, i understand it fixes this issue, just saying that I can't predict any unintended side-effects (if any)23:07
mnewbymarkmcclain: this advertises against a common notification queue, regardless of ceilometer's desires.  too much inter-project coordination.23:07
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markmcclainit's not a common queue they want23:08
markmcclainjust that things stay consistent23:08
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nati_uenoFYI: http://www.rabbitmq.com/tutorials/tutorial-two-python.html23:09
mnewbymarkmcclain: ah, makes sense.  so common queue could go away, and there could be an ongoing effort to ensure consistency.  +1 from me23:09
nati_ueno"When RabbitMQ quits or crashes it will forget the queues and messages unless you tell it not to. Two things are required to make sure that messages aren't lost: we need to mark both the queue and messages as durable."23:09
mnewby(as if my opinion counts ;)23:09
nati_uenoI'm not sure why we are changing this option now.23:10
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nati_uenoI suppose this is related HA option23:10
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mnewbymarkmcclain: question regarding ns proxy...23:12
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markmcclainyeah23:12
mnewbymarkmcclain: are there docs on configuring?  fresh devstack with l3 gives an error that it can't find the pidfile for the metadata proxy...23:13
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Kiallmarkmcclain / nati_ueno / mnewby FYI - Glance avoids this problem without an explicit value for rabbit_durable_queues..23:14
Kiallhttps://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/glance#L7323:14
mnewbymarkmcclain: I'm assuming I need to add it to the service list.23:14
mnewby?23:14
KiallAnd then L130-135 makes use of it..23:15
nati_uenoKiall: THanks for your information23:15
KiallNot sure there fix is 100% reliable though.. But the pattern seems sane23:15
nati_uenoKiall: I believe it is same problem23:16
mnewbymarkmcclain: sorry, bad bug report.  It is failing to run the metadata proxy, in any case.  please disregard and i'll hopefully have a more useful question shortly.23:16
KiallIt seems to be, but their fix assumes durable once they find a single durable queue23:16
nati_uenoKiall: Thank you for your input. I may take some days to fix this :)23:16
danwentnati_ueno: with the patch, and fully updated quantum/glance, glance fails with the PRECONDITION_FAILED message23:17
danwenti will recheck that i have the versions I think i have23:17
Kiall(I suppose there is only 1 rabbit_durable_queues option.. I guess you cant be more specific anyway)23:17
nati_uenodanwent: Did you remove rabbitmq?23:17
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nati_uenodanwent: so apt-get remote rabbitmq; rm -rf /var/lib/rabbitmq is needed23:18
nati_uenos/remote/remove/23:18
danwentnati_ueno: that's nasty :P23:18
Kiallnati_ueno, also worth looking at.. https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/bin/nova-clear-rabbit-queues23:18
Kiall(saves a rabbit reinstall)23:18
markmcclainyou don't have to remove rabbit23:18
markmcclainsudo rabbitmqctl stop_app23:18
markmcclainsudo rabbitmqctl reset23:18
markmcclainsudo rabbitmqctl start_app23:19
nati_uenoKiall: markmcclain: cool23:19
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: 406 if we can't satisfy Accept  https://review.openstack.org/1716623:20
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Add test storage driver  https://review.openstack.org/1738823:31
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nati_uenoarosen: Are you around?23:34
arosenhi nati_ueno23:35
nati_uenoarosen: hi23:35
nati_uenoarosen: IMO, This line should be ATTR_NOT_SPECIFIED https://github.com/openstack/quantum/blob/master/quantum/extensions/securitygroup.py#L21423:35
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arosennati_ueno: yea i agree23:36
nati_uenoarosen: OK I will fix this in my lb patch23:37
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Add domain proxies that stop unauthorized actions  https://review.openstack.org/1699323:37
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danwentdtroyer: could you look at this one-line devstack review?  i've already tested it, and we've had other quantum cores confirm it too.  seems like a change in another project changed rabbit config without making the quantum setup consistent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17424/23:40
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danwentnati_ueno: i did a +2, but garyk (only other quantum core dev with devstack core privs) is asleep right now, so i've tried pinging some of the devstack folks.23:44
nati_uenodanwent: Thanks!!23:44
danwentnati_ueno: thanks for looking into this :)23:45
nati_uenodanwent: your welcome23:45
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mnewbymarkmcclain: am i missing something or is the metadata agent spawned regardless of whether namespaces are enabled or not?23:47
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markmcclainproxy is always spawned23:47
markmcclainagent too23:47
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mnewbymarkmcclain: is it used when namespaces are not enabled then?23:49
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mnewbymarkmcclain: implying no more direct access from vm to metadata service?23:49
markmcclainyes.. just to keep the flow consistent23:49
mnewbymarkmcclain: understood23:50
mnewbymarmcclain: so i have more visibility on the bug I'm seeing.23:50
mnewbymarkmcclain: quantum-ns-metadata-proxy is being installed in /usr/local/bin, which isn't in the search path for a rootwrap invocation.23:51
mnewbymarkmcclain: I'm a bit confused as to why it would be installed in /usr/local/bin - any thoughts?23:51
markmcclainare you using setup.py to install?23:52
mnewbyI'm guessing so, but it's devstack - no manual intervention.23:52
mnewbyi'm guessing this is the first instance of the rootwrap being used to execute something installed by quantum directly.23:53
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mnewbyI remember we had to remove the explicit path for rootwrap targets, but now it's biting us.23:54
markmcclainyeah...23:54
markmcclainthe value originally was /usr/local/bin in the filter23:54
markmcclainthen the packagers requested it be moved to /usr/bin23:55
mnewbypackagers vs sourcers: fight!23:55
mnewbyI guess I should file a bug then.23:56
mnewbyNo easy fix23:56
mnewbyAlthough...23:56
mnewbyMaybe devstack can fix things up with a symlink..23:57
mnewbymarkmcclain: do you think that's an acceptable stopgap?  submit a patch to devstack that adds a symlink post-install?23:57
markmcclainyeah or define the filter to allow the executable in both places23:58
mnewbymarkmcclain: the latter would seem preferable…  The packagers could always patch out the lines they don't want.   Any docs on how to include multiple locations?23:58
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