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| alexpilotti | squishy: about cloud-init / cloudbase-init, I'm going to start by supporting your metadata approach, will be ready for Grizzly | 00:01 |
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| squishy | alexpilotti: cool thanks. FYI xenapi will have the agent + write on server side | 00:01 |
| squishy | I am going to put that together next week | 00:02 |
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| squishy | so if you prefer that it is fine | 00:02 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: just support the other as well. I.e. only write it if the guest communication works | 00:02 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: cool. Should we have a meeting to see how to put togheter a common interface? | 00:02 |
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| squishy | also i don't have this in my script, but the cloud init should actually try to get the password before setting it | 00:03 |
| squishy | because it is write once | 00:03 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: I mean something that could be abstracted on all hypervisors in use | 00:03 |
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| alexpilotti | squishy: especially considering the cloud-init side | 00:03 |
| squishy | so if curl http://169.254.169.254/openstack/2013-04-04/password returns data (not a 404) then the password has been set already | 00:04 |
| squishy | and the cloud-init shouldn't attempt to change the admin password | 00:04 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: what happens if cloud init tries anyway? | 00:04 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: should this be enforced on the metadata side as well? | 00:04 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: if you try you will get a 409 conflict | 00:04 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: returning e.g. a 401? | 00:04 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: ok, perfect ;-) | 00:05 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: just make sure you do generate -> try to set metadata -> set admin password | 00:05 |
| squishy | because if you change the admin password and get a 409 the user can't login anymore :) | 00:05 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: gotcha, I guess that a try / except will save me :-D | 00:06 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: also the 409 isn't immediate becasue the metadata server caches values for about 15 seconds | 00:06 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: ok, it's still a synchronous operation, right? | 00:07 |
| squishy | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/metadata/password.py#L58 | 00:07 |
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| alexpilotti | squishy: will take a look at the implementation. Seems very straightforward anyway. | 00:10 |
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| smoser | squishy, patches are welcome | 00:27 |
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| squishy | smoser: 0o | 00:29 |
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| squishy | smoser: U | 00:29 |
| smoser | squishy, there isn't actually a pure "openstack" datasource at the moment. | 00:29 |
| squishy | yes i suppose so | 00:30 |
| smoser | ie, what is there now uses the ec2 metadata. i'd very much welcome a openstack datasource. | 00:30 |
| smoser | (ie, one that only hit http://<MD_ADDRESS>/openstack/ | 00:30 |
| squishy | smoser: do you think it should automatically do the password setting if a public key is passed in? | 00:30 |
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| smoser | i'd have to think about it. actually i just noticed today that if you laucnh an instance with nova client, it shows you an admin pass. | 00:31 |
| squishy | (assuming the password enpdpoint is available) | 00:31 |
| squishy | smoser: yes which is not set for libvirt | 00:31 |
| smoser | but honestly in linux, ther is very little value in this. | 00:31 |
| smoser | right? | 00:31 |
| smoser | or am i missing something | 00:31 |
| squishy | smoser: i think the password could be omitted by the provider by doing password_length=0 | 00:35 |
| squishy | smoser: but a user can still set it and have it do nothing | 00:36 |
| smoser | i dont follow. | 00:36 |
| squishy | :( | 00:36 |
| smoser | do you actually see a use for it in linux? | 00:36 |
| squishy | smoser: not really, but it is in the api unfortunately | 00:36 |
| smoser | it is *trivial* with current cloud-init to set up any user you want to have sudo access. | 00:36 |
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| smoser | squishy, but i'd definitely be interested in a pure openstack datasource for cloud-init, and i would accept patches to do the passowrd post. | 00:39 |
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| smoser | have to think about it as default true though. | 00:40 |
| smoser | if anyone is interested (i'd appreciate feedback) cirros 0.3.1~pre4 is at http://download.cirros-cloud.net/0.3.1~pre4/ | 00:40 |
| smoser | it has config-drive-v2 support and some other bugs fixed there too. | 00:40 |
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| squishy | smoser: the admin password is on the config drive | 01:17 |
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| squishy | smoser: does cloud init do anything with it? | 01:18 |
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| squishy | alexpilotti: does your current version of cloud-init use the admin_password that is on config drive? | 01:25 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: yep | 01:26 |
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| squishy | alexpilotti: does it just leave the config drive connected? | 01:28 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: as in any user on the box could read the admin password? | 01:28 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: it dismount it | 01:28 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: no | 01:28 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: ok nice | 01:28 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: in windows it's quite complicated | 01:28 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: I mean, you just don't mount a raw partition containining ISO data | 01:29 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: It doesn't show up as a cdrom? | 01:29 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: I mount it, extract the data to a file, mount it as loopback, read it and close it | 01:29 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: no, it 's a virtual HDD with unpartitioned data | 01:30 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: oh my, we should have attached it as a cdrom | 01:30 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: I spoke with smoser time ago | 01:30 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: then the guest code could just 'eject' the cd | 01:30 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: he promised to do that ;-) | 01:30 |
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| alexpilotti | squishy: we already support it | 01:31 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: there's a flag in our config drive implementation that mounts the config drive as a CD | 01:31 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: this is also the only way on systems <= 2012 for the moment | 01:31 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: but still, for how quick you can be, the CDROM will be visible | 01:32 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: so admin_pass is still a security issue | 01:32 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: even bigger if you think about getting the host hacked | 01:32 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: that is why I was hoping for cd + eject | 01:33 |
| squishy | once the cd is ejected it is gone | 01:33 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: but that would require tracking the state of the cd on the host and not reattaching it on reboot etc. | 01:33 |
| squishy | so that might be a little complex | 01:33 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: more: you need to delete it as soon as possible | 01:34 |
| alexpilotti | swifterdarrell: there's a CONF option to not use admin_pass at all | 01:34 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: ^^ typo :-) | 01:34 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: what is that option | 01:34 |
| squishy | alexpilotti: I was just looking for it | 01:34 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: it's also available in KVM | 01:35 |
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| squishy | ah enable_instance_password | 01:36 |
| squishy | there it is | 01:36 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: yep | 01:36 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: with your patch we can get rid of admin_pass altogether | 01:37 |
| squishy | yeah v3 i'm hoping to remove it from the api | 01:37 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: we still have the problem of the visiibility of configdrive | 01:37 |
| gongysh | alexpilotti: where is your nova patch for hyperv? | 01:37 |
| alexpilotti | squishy: users like to put in userdata all sort of things :-D | 01:37 |
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| alexpilotti | gongysh: which one? the configdrive one? | 01:38 |
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| gongysh | alexpilotti: I don't know, you said you would have a patch last night? | 01:38 |
| alexpilotti | gongysh: good morning :-) | 01:39 |
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| alexpilotti | gongysh: I was in a conversation w squishy, I thought you were adding on that one ;-) | 01:39 |
| alexpilotti | gongysh: I sent you an email | 01:39 |
| alexpilotti | gongysh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19485/ | 01:40 |
| alexpilotti | gongysh: I updated the Quantum plugin doc with the nova.conf bits | 01:41 |
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| studly | i do | 05:00 |
| studly | but it's not completely straightforward | 05:01 |
| studly | I have modified vhd libraries from xen to generate a tool, but I don't have it up anywhere | 05:01 |
| studly | the manual way can be.. | 05:01 |
| studly | create vdi in xen, attach it to dom0 or a domU and dd the .img to the block device | 05:02 |
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| studly | or mkfs the block device, mount both things and rsync | 05:02 |
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