Wednesday, 2013-01-16

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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Override floating interface on callee side  https://review.openstack.org/1914000:04
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Reject user ports that have MACs the hypervisor cannot use.  https://review.openstack.org/1974300:04
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Fix HEAD request response when request not given to response.  https://review.openstack.org/1942200:04
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jgriffithsighh... none of the admin extensions are in cinderclient00:11
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andyhkyHi, I tried filling in the CLA on echosign but it looks like I left off part of my address. Is that going to hold things up? What do I need to do to fix it?00:18
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Enhance wsgi to listen on ipv6 address  https://review.openstack.org/1969800:50
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-keystoneclient: Make WebOb version specification more flexible  https://review.openstack.org/1920800:58
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lifelessis it possible to add functionality to the v2 quantum API01:03
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lifelesslike a new verb or new filtering on an existing verb ?01:04
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lifelessgongysh: hi, I think I answered your questions. Could you perhaps re-review ?02:45
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gongyshlifeless: # Don't try to use this MAC if we need to create a02:48
gongysh148                            # port on the fly later. MACs can be configured by02:48
gongysh149                            # users into multiple networks (for VLANs) so we02:48
gongysh150                            # discard rather than popping.02:48
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lifelessgongysh: yes. You can't pop the same MAC from a set twice.02:49
lifelessgongysh: consider a physical environment with native vlan and one tagged vlan02:49
lifelessgongysh: so we boot with --net port_id=port1 --net port_id=port202:50
lifelessgongysh: and we have previously created two ports, one in each network in quantum, both with the same MAC.02:50
gongyshlifeless: I just don't agree with your reason why we use the discard. I agree we use discard.02:50
lifelessgongysh: ok, what is your reason ?02:51
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gongyshlifeless: u can use discard without any reason or : one Mac can be configured by user to multiple ports.02:54
gongyshlifeless: network has no mac attr. the port has.02:55
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lifelessgongysh: I infer from that that my current text suggests network has a mac attribute?02:55
lifelessgongysh: I don't see how it does, can you help me see?02:56
gongyshlifeless: I have this kind of understanding02:57
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lifelessgongysh: is it perhaps 'MACs can be configured by users into multiple networks '03:01
lifelessgongysh: if I say03:01
lifeless'Identical MACs can be configured by users into multiple ports (on distinct networks), ...' ?03:01
lifelessgongysh: my concern is to highlight that this is a valid thing for users to do, its not a bug or mistake that they can do it.03:02
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gongyshlifeless: why do we need to talk about networks? we are dealing with ports.03:02
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lifelessgongysh: we are allocating networks03:05
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lifelessgongysh: ports are a part of that, but only a part03:05
gongyshlifeless: but that part of codes are dealing with ports.03:07
lifelessgongysh: but only to map back to networks - the loop is picking up user defined networks03:08
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lifelessgongysh: I can change it if you like, but its false to claim that the same MAC in different ports is ok and not talk networks, because its invalid to have the same MAC twice on one network, but its valid to have the same MAC on two different networks.03:09
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lifelessgongysh: so changing it to not mention network would be omitting important information for someone editing the code in future.03:09
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gongyshlifeless: network has subnets in quantum.03:10
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gongyshlifeless: as far as  I know, the same mac on different subnet works03:10
lifelessgongysh: they do, and strictly this should talk subnets, but the surrounding code allocates on networks.03:10
lifelessgongysh: I'm not sure how to resolve that tension - you can see that the API calls the routine makes to quantum don't specify subnet :(03:11
lifelessgongysh: perhaps future work?03:11
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gongyshlifeless:  ip address will be mapped into a subnet.03:12
lifelessgongysh: does that mean we should let quantum detect if the user has the same MAC on the same network twice ?03:13
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lifelessgongysh: so --nic port_id=port1 --nic port_id=port2 , both with same mac, both on same network.03:14
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gongyshlifeless:   that part of codes assume the port is created by quantum api already.03:14
lifelessgongysh: I think this will error today, because quantum port-create takes network not subnet.03:14
gongyshlifeless: if the ports have the same MAC or if they can have, quantum should have already dealt.03:15
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lifelessgongysh: so, I'm still worried this will just lead to either bad changes in future, or confusion. But - how about ''Identical MACs can be configured by users into multiple ports so ...'03:16
gongyshlifeless: ok, fine03:17
lifelessactually I will say 'may' not 'can'03:17
lifelessto indicate permission03:18
gongyshlifeless: hypervisor_macs is to constrain the macs of the instance can have?03:19
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lifelessgongysh: yes03:19
gongyshlifeless: so u are using None to indicate there is no such parameter, and empty to say there are no more macs available.03:20
lifelessthats right03:21
lifelessthe reason set() is permitted is that some bare metal environments do still virtualise their network cards - they have a mesh inside the chassis with N network cards and M CPU's and you can mix and match, but you have a limit to total NICs03:21
lifelessso if you do many high-NIC instances you can run out of network cards while still having cpu's available ;)03:22
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gongyshlifeless:  ok03:23
gongyshlifeless: I am fine now03:23
lifelessgongysh: cool. I have updated that message and pushed to gerrit.03:23
lifelessgongysh: thanks for the review and your time03:23
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-quantumclient: Display security group name in security-group-rule-list  https://review.openstack.org/1812204:42
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Catch up RPC context fixes on NEC OpenFlow plugin  https://review.openstack.org/1970604:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: NEC OpenFlow plugin supports L3 agent RPC  https://review.openstack.org/1970804:58
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uvgHi, reviews required for NOVA: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17592/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19376/. Thanks.05:38
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: support a configurable volume wiping method  https://review.openstack.org/1252106:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Fix i18n of string templates.  https://review.openstack.org/1972507:28
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Sync base identity Driver defs with SQL driver  https://review.openstack.org/1974907:28
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rohitkHi nova-core: Requesting +1 to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18716/, thx11:03
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gongyshzhong yue luo: ping12:49
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Fixes a minor documentation typo  https://review.openstack.org/1976613:28
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ntollHi, I'm trying to set up a dev environment on an Ubuntu natty box (no choice over this). Had a few bumps but got to the state where I can ./run_tests.sh but output from that wasn't what I was expecting for a test suite (see http://pastebin.com/MTBW4e0H). Is this correct? Any idea what I'm doing wrong..? TIA13:35
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ntoll"Libvirt module could not be loaded" looks especially ominous13:36
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ntollI can drop into my Python shell and import libvirt so I'm a tad confused13:38
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alaskintoll: I don't know what the cause is, but I see those messages as well when I use ./run_tests.sh and they haven't caused me a problem.14:03
alaskintoll: I don't get the argparse message you're seeing, but everything else looks normal14:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fixes import order nits  https://review.openstack.org/1978314:11
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Add Kwapi pollster (energy monitoring).  https://review.openstack.org/1910614:41
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danpbif there are any nova core reviewers who are looking for work, i've got a SPICE patch series looking for some +1 love https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/libvirt-spice,n,z14:42
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ntollalaski, ok thanks15:05
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jd__salv-orlando: any idea why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18961/ is failing? :(15:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: enable hacking.py self tests  https://review.openstack.org/1906515:15
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icchahey annegentle_itsme, I am seeing company specific copyrights on openstack patches while doing reviews, are there any guidelines regarding that? any link you can point me to so I can read up on it15:21
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icchattx: ^^15:23
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salv-orlandojd_: looking at it15:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add common config options for SPICE graphics  https://review.openstack.org/1830415:25
ttxiccha: copyright lines are ok. see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2012-August/000665.html15:26
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annegentle_itsmeiccha: I have an email in to the Foundation lawyer, she is working on it. I pinged her again after a week went by.15:31
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add support for setting up <channel> elements in libvirt config  https://review.openstack.org/1830515:31
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Updates prerequisite packages for fedora  https://review.openstack.org/1980915:31
annegentle_itsmettx: OpenStack LLC does not exist any more15:31
annegentle_itsmeso I am seeking updated guidance15:32
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add support for configuring SPICE graphics with libvirt  https://review.openstack.org/1830615:32
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annegentle_itsmeiccha: for the most part now, just leave the company specific ones as it was correct for when the file was created15:33
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixes an import order nit  https://review.openstack.org/1978215:36
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salv-orlandojd_: I agree with AlexXu's comments on your patch. they should be applied. Also, the override should be set before invoking setup, otherwise it will be ignored15:37
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icchaannegentle_itsme: i am talking about people are adding it in now, just wondering what the criteria was to be able to add in a company copyright15:50
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annegentle_itsmeiccha: I need guidance to tell others because the board voted to move docs to CC-By. It has some implication for copyright assignment but I don't know the guidance.15:51
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amotokigaryk: ping16:01
garykameade_: hi16:01
garykamotoki: hi16:01
amotokicould you check alex's comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19777/?16:02
amotokithe test check the response of create_port but the test name is test_port_vif_details16:03
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amotokii would like to confirm your original intention of the test.16:03
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garykamotoki: the first test: admin user can read the vif details and that a regular user cannot16:05
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amotokigaryk: the first cheks the response of create_port. is it right?16:05
garykyes, it checks the response when the port is created. i think that he also wants us to check the results when there is a get_port16:06
garykamotoki: that is essentially what is don in the test below - so it is covered16:06
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amotokigaryk: is it bettter to add a test to check get_port in admin context?16:07
garykamotoki: yes, i think that this will be good.16:07
garyki think that the tests are all in the admin context.16:08
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amotokigaryk: yes. my understanding is same.16:08
amotokii will add a check for get_port.16:09
garykamotoki: ok. at least we are on the same page :). thanks for adding the generic test16:09
alexpilottigaryk: ping!16:09
garykalexpilotti: hi16:09
amotokigaryk: thanks.16:09
alexpilottigaryk: there's a fairly big issue with your patch: https://github.com/openstack/quantum/commit/de99585d4feef9c73020a8b1c53fb719f604556a16:09
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alexpilottigaryk: the option: control_exchange16:09
alexpilottigaryk: is defined in common but redefined by each project16:10
alexpilottigaryk: in common it defaults to "openstack"16:10
garykalexpilotti: the patch that i added did the following:16:10
alexpilottigaryk: while quantum defaults it to "quantum", nova to "nova " etc16:10
garykalexpilotti: in quantum is should be quantum16:11
garykalexpilotti: https://github.com/openstack/quantum/commit/de99585d4feef9c73020a8b1c53fb719f604556a#L0R68 - this line moved the config wariable from quatum back to the rpc.16:11
alexpilottigaryk: I see now the rpc.set_defaults(control_exchange='quantum')16:11
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garykalexpilotti: can you please elaborate on the problem. i missed a few heart beats and have yet to understand16:11
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alexpilottigaryk: brb, doing a few extra tests16:12
garykalexpilotti: ok. np. i am on line for another hour or so if there are issues.16:13
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alexpilottigaryk: I confirm you that to make the agent work I had to force: control_exchange=quantum16:15
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garykalexpilotti: yes, this needs to be set as quantum16:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fix line endings from CRLF to LF.  https://review.openstack.org/1980716:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Move migration_get_..._by_host_and_node to conductor  https://review.openstack.org/1964316:15
alexpilottigaryk: shouldn't it be "quantum" by default?16:16
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garykalexpilotti: by default is is 'openstack'16:16
garykalexpilotti: i think that i see the problem. i'll take care of it.16:17
alexpilottigaryk: tx16:17
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alexpilottigaryk: IMO this breaks a lot of deployments currently16:18
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garykalexpilotti: does the configuration file that you are working with have the control_exchange?16:18
alexpilottigaryk: I had to force it now16:18
alexpilottigaryk: my agent AMQP RPC communication stopped working today after a git pull16:19
alexpilottigaryk: and it took a bit to figure it out ;-)16:19
garykalexpilotti: sorry. i'll have a patch in for review soon16:19
alexpilottigaryk: tx16:19
garykalexpilotti: thank you for spotting this16:19
alexpilottigaryk: gongysh helped also!16:19
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garykalexpilotti: :) (he always finds my bugs)16:20
alexpilottigaryk: I noticed that Nova for example redefines that option16:20
alexpilottigaryk: if you remember it's also how I originally did it in the patch that was abandoned when you redid it16:20
garykalexpilotti: can you please point me to theri code16:20
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alexpilottigaryk: sure16:20
garykalexpilotti: i was sure that i used their code as a reference16:21
alexpilottigaryk: mayve they changed it lately, I'm checking now16:21
alexpilottigaryk: you are right, they changed it as well16:24
alexpilottiwith: rpc.set_defaults(control_exchange='nova')16:24
alexpilottigaryk: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/config.py16:25
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garykalexpilotti: that is what i copied - i am posting a patch now. can you please let me know what you think16:25
alexpilottigaryk: here's when they changed it: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/f80e924737c0db8025aa71cad2f83f74f8ea742b16:26
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alexpilottigaryk: sure16:26
garykalexpilotti: in a sec i'll post the patch16:26
garykalexpilotti: http://paste.openstack.org/show/29539/16:27
alexpilottigongysh: ^^16:27
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alexpilottigaryk: +116:27
salv-orlandojd__: Please see comment on your patch. I think that little change will allow unit tests to run16:28
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alexpilottigaryk: should I file up a bug for this?16:28
garykalexpilotti: i just did16:28
jd__salv-orlando: saw, thank you very much, I'll update :)16:28
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salv-orlandojd__: np16:29
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alexpilottigaryk: cool, I didn't check on other agents / configs, but any case that doesn't call parse is affected16:29
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garykalexpilotti: i just checked linux bridge and ovs16:29
garykalexpilotti: https://review.openstack.org/1982116:29
alexpilottigaryk: checking the code16:30
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alexpilottigaryk: I mean, running it :-)16:30
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alexpilottigaryk: working16:31
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alexpilottigaryk: tx!16:31
garykthanks16:31
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alexpilottigaryk: ufff I wanted to review the latest agent patches and spent the afternoon debugging AMQP, ahhh the joy of the developer's life :-)16:34
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garykalexpilotti: my humble apologies - just a question - how did the control_exchange drop from the config file?16:34
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ayounganyone else having problems with devstack right now, or is it just my environment that is messed up?16:35
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alexpilottigaryk: I didn't have it in the agent config16:35
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henrynashdolphm: around?16:35
alexpilottigaryk: as any other values that don't change from their default16:35
dolphmhenrynash: yes, reviewing your backend changes16:35
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garykalexpilotti: ahh. in the case when we run on ubuntu/fedora/rhel etc, we pass the quantum.conf as one of the input files16:36
garykalexpilotti: it just takes one :)16:36
alexpilottigaryk: I know, but as on WIndows we don't have a "etc" folder is a bit extra overhead16:36
garykalexpilotti: on the bright side you have outlook :)16:37
alexpilottigaryk: but I can add it for extra safety from now on :-)16:37
henrynashdolphm: so there are several ways we could sync up…one is that (like project) the domain_id is first created nullable, then in your change you could fill the column in and make it non null16:37
alexpilottigaryk: tx for fixing it so quickly!16:37
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henrynashdolphm: alternatively we merge this together so we make it non null in one go16:38
dolphmhenrynash: only problem with that: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4007014/alter-column-in-sqlite16:38
henrynashdolphm: dman!16:38
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ayoungdolphm, that has bit me many times16:38
dolphm(altering a column means a 3 step process of creating a new table, moving data over, etc)16:39
ayoungthe general way I worked around it is to rename a table and copy into the new table16:39
ayoungso16:39
dolphmayoung: +116:39
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ayoungrename domain to domain_orig and create a new domain table with the constrains16:39
ayoungrename domain to domain_orig and create a new domain table with the constraints16:39
dolphmhenrynash: how do you want to merge them together?16:40
dolphmhenrynash: i assume my change needs to come in the migration sequence ahead of yours, correct?16:41
dolphmhenrynash: should i slip it in and bump all the subsequent migration numbers up?16:41
henrynashdolphm: are we going to have to do the table copy trick anyway?  if so it could come after16:42
dolphmhenrynash: i don't think so, do we?16:42
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henrynashdolphm: what about projects?16:42
ayoungdolphm, I am seeing problems running devstack.  devstack is setting  OS_SERVICE_ENDPOINT and OS_SERVICE_TOKEN  but it looks like the keystone exe expects16:42
ayoungSERVICE_ENDPOINT  and SERVICE_TOKEN16:43
ayoungsounds like a version mismatch16:43
ayoungI assume the OS_ ones are correct16:43
dolphmayoung: the (now) really old client expects SERVICE_ENDPOINT and SERVICE_TOKEN16:43
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ayoungdolphm, right16:44
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dolphmayoung: current client supports both but the feature isn't documented16:44
ayoungdolphm, I have /opt/stack/python-keystoneclient checked out from master. Which is what devstack should use16:44
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ayoungI wonder if somehow the old one got pip installed16:45
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henrynashdolphm: ah, right, of course domain_id is still in extras in projects/tenats16:46
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henrynashdolphm: do yes, maybe you slip you change in earlier.  Maybe just add it to 007 when we crete the domain table?16:47
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dolphmayoung: python setup.py develop on the copy you want it to use16:51
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ayoungdolphm, /opt/stack/python-keystoneclient/  ?16:52
dolphmhenrynash: i'd rather not combine data migration with schema migrations in the same migration step, makes for nasty unwinding when a migration fails16:52
dolphmayoung: python /opt/stack/python-keystoneclient/setup.py develop16:52
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ayoungdolphm, henrynash BTW, if you do multiple migrations in one commit, say 14,15,16,  name the test after the activity performed, so test_upgrade_domain_constraints instead of test-upgrade_13_to_1616:53
dolphmayoung: you can also do a `pip freeze` to check what pip had installed, or keystone --version16:53
henrynashdolphm: ok,maybe you just put in your 014, I'll move mine to 015…16:54
dolphmayoung: that's probably a good idea16:54
henrynashayoung: _116:54
henrynashayoung: +116:54
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ayounghenrynash, dolphm, yeah, I might go back and retroactivly rename some of those.  But it will also make it easier if you have to reshuffle your migration numbers16:56
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ayoungdolphm, devstack is doing16:57
ayoungDownloading/unpacking python-keystoneclient>=0.1,<0.2 (from -r python_openstackclient.egg-info/requires.txt (line 8))16:57
ayoungShouldn't devstack be using /opt/stack/python-keystoneclient?16:58
ayoungHmms, seems to have worked.16:58
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dolphmhenrynash: ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19788/17:04
ayoungdolphm, you are stepping on my review17:05
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/19750/17:05
dolphmayoung: i know, henrynash's as well... that's why i'm pinging you both17:05
henrynashdolphm: my clash is minor, i could re-base easy….although it does rather trample yours, ayoung17:06
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ayoungdolphm, It looks like yours incorporates my fixes and goes further17:06
dolphmayoung: yeah17:07
ayoungdolphm, so...one thing I realized17:07
dolphmayoung: henrynash: i figured it would be useful for you both17:07
ayoungthe downgrade doesn't drop the columns17:07
ayoungwhich means running the upgrade again will fail17:07
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dolphmayoung: which migration?17:07
ayoungtrying to add the columns which are already there17:07
ayoung00917:07
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dolphmayoung: you don't create columns here though, right?17:08
ayoungah...maybe in 817:08
ayoung1 sec17:08
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ayoungdolphm, ah, right17:09
ayoungit means that 008 needs to be fixe17:09
ayoungd17:09
ayoungit didn't deal with the dropped columns for sqlite17:09
ayoungthat can be a different commit17:09
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dolphmayoung: if you propose a fix for that, i'll rebase this on your fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19826/17:16
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ayoungdolphm, I think I am going to approve your fix and then I'll write a fix on top of it17:17
dolphmayoung: cool17:17
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ayoungdolphm, does your test run?17:18
dolphmayoung: it fails on exactly the bug you just mentioned17:18
ayoungdolphm, also, is there some way we can autodetect the highest migration number?17:18
ayoungdolphm, ah, ok17:18
dolphmayoung: yeah, i don't remember how... you can get it out of sqlalchemy-migrates api17:18
ayoungok,  we'll burn that bridge later17:18
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Use testrepository setuptools support.  https://review.openstack.org/1968817:19
alexpilottigaryk: http://logs.openstack.org/19821/1/check/gate-quantum-pep8/3642/console.html17:20
garykalexpilotti: sorry - no rest for the wicked today17:21
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garykalexpilotti: my bad i posted in the middle of the tests17:22
alexpilottigaryk: PEP8 strikes again :-)17:22
alexpilottigaryk: don't worry, it happens to me all the time17:22
garykalexpilotti: at times it makes me want to use the italian words i learnt at school17:22
garykalexpilotti: i'll suffice with forza juve17:23
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alexpilottigaryk: hahaha17:24
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alexpilottigaryk: tox is the only tool that doesn't work on Windows yet17:26
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garykalexpilotti: :)17:27
alexpilottigaryk: so even if I get some positive pep8 checks sometimes I get slapped by jenkins.17:27
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garykalexpilotti: i on the other hand do not have any excuses.17:27
alexpilottigaryk: which is were knowing how to swear in multiple langues is very effective :-)17:27
garykalexpilotti: true17:28
alexpilotti*languages17:28
ayounghenrynash, are you OK with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19788/  ?17:29
ayoungIf so, I'll approve/merge17:29
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henrynashayoung: yep, fine with that17:29
ayounghenrynash, go ahead and approve then17:29
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henrynashayoung: done17:30
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dolphmayoung: henrynash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19828/17:31
henrynashdolphm: where did we land on your default domain change…do you want to push that in, then I'll move mine after yours (and have seen your comments on it too)?17:31
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ayounghenrynash, too quick on the trigger with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19828/17:34
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ayoungat least let it get through jenkins...17:34
ayoungNo harm done, as it won't merge if jenkins fails.17:34
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henrynashayoung: ok, yes, should have waited for that...17:34
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dolphmayoung: henrynash: definitely no harm, it will be gated regardless17:35
dolphmhenrynash: and it's a trivial change so no one should be upset17:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Make resource tracker use conductor for listing compute nodes  https://review.openstack.org/1964417:43
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alexpilottijohngarbutt smoser: ping18:03
smoserso.. why isn't cloud-init an agent?18:04
johngarbutthi18:04
smoseri just do not see much reason for a hypervisor/cloud specific agent.18:04
smoserthere are loads of existing agents that function perfectly well.18:04
alexpilottismoser: there are some command that need to be retriggered after boot18:04
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johngarbuttI think we are thinking of building a cross hypervisor agent, that uses cloud-init18:05
alexpilottismoser: setting the WIndows password is a very clear example18:05
smoserthat means the only value that cloud-init could provide is that it could read data over a openstack specific communication channel.18:05
smoseri really could care less about setting passwords.18:05
alexpilottismoser: tell it to my Windows centric customers ;-)18:05
johngarbuttsmoser: agreed, its the windows users18:06
smoseri agree that you have to set one18:06
smoserbut after that, dont lose it18:06
smoserif you lose it... sorry.18:06
johngarbuttalso its the not quite proper cloud customers18:06
alexpilottismoser: I agree that for Unix is useless18:06
smoseryour agent can re-set it for you, but it is not related to openstack18:06
smoser(it operates over IPv4 or IPv6)18:06
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comstudwhat operates over IP?18:07
alexpilottijohngarbutt: smoser point here is correct18:07
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smoserif you kill your networking, *and* forget your password, *and* you have no openstack console/vnc access to the guest, then OH-NO! (you might have to "rescue")18:07
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alexpilottiOpenStack has nothing to do with the guest internals18:07
comstudthe xen agent doesn't use IP for communication18:07
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Make resource tracker use conductor for listing instances  https://review.openstack.org/1965118:07
smoserright.18:07
smoseri'm saying the xen agent is bogus useless also18:07
smoserthere are other agents18:08
smoserjust use them.18:08
alexpilottithat's why I think an extension is more appropriate18:08
smoserif you buy a laptop from IBM you get one!18:08
alexpilottiand I like the idea of a generic framework18:08
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alexpilottito be honest, I need to consider my customer's request18:09
johngarbuttright, this is openstack people collaborating to solve a customer issue, using windows in the cloud18:09
smoserthen install "mypcanywhere" inside the instance18:09
alexpilottiIf a customer asks: I want the password reset feature I prefer to provide it than losing the customer, to add some drama :-)18:09
smoserthen show them how to get at it over IP.18:09
comstudlol18:10
comstudi can see this conversation is going to stay rather ridiculous and I have better things to do18:10
smoseri'm just saying, there are lots of agents that do this sort of thing.18:10
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smoserthey exist, and they work outside of openstack.18:10
alexpilottiIMO smoser point is clear18:10
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alexpilottiMy suggestion, to cut it short18:11
alexpilottiis to have a common library of commands18:11
alexpilottipassword reset, netwok injection, file injection etc18:11
alexpilotticloud-init can wrap it,18:11
alexpilottiand also any other agent can use them18:11
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alexpilottiwe could already use a lot of the great goodies in cloud-init with a single issue: GPL vs Apache218:12
smoseri agree with the idea of modularity, but all of those things already exist in lots of agents.18:12
johngarbuttso, cloud-init knows guest platforms, agent knows hypervisors18:12
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alexpilottismoser: none of those agents has all the requirements that we have18:12
alexpilottijohngarbutt: I'd put it this way18:13
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alexpilottijohngarbutt: agent encompasses cloud-init, adding an additional datasource18:13
johngarbuttok18:14
alexpilottitheadditional datasource abstracts the guest / hypervisor communication18:14
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johngarbuttand additional trigger mechanism18:14
alexpilottijohngarbutt: correct18:14
johngarbuttlets try create something that works on both hyper-v and xenapi then?18:14
alexpilottijohngarbutt: sure18:14
smoserplease also make it work over IP18:15
vishyjohngarbutt, alexpilotti: don't leave out kvm ;)18:15
alexpilottivishy: sure18:15
smoserhonestly, that is the most useful communication mechanism ever18:15
alexpilottijohngarbutt: our next cloud-init feature will be the support for vishy's patch18:15
ayoungdolphm, you can rebase  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19826/ on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19840/18:15
johngarbuttdoes ip = metadata service?18:15
alexpilottijohngarbutt: afterwards I'd like to start the agent discussion in detail18:16
smoserno. ipv4 or ipv618:16
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alexpilottijohngarbutt: one additional detail:18:16
smoserie, listens on a port. you can have it require ssh key auth, and expose a restful api18:16
johngarbuttsmoser: so directly to the VM's IP address then? like a rest API18:16
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alexpilottijohngarbutt: I will require the guest / host communication already at teh cloud-init stage18:17
smoserthen that same api is exposed over those other interfaces also.18:17
johngarbuttsmoser: OK, makes sense, as you say, using ssh key auth18:17
smoser(fwiw, qemu has one of these)18:17
alexpilottijohngarbutt: because there's no other alternative to avoid the metadata service and still supporting vishy's solution18:17
smoserhttp://wiki.qemu.org/Features/QAPI/GuestAgent18:17
smoserimo that is just about the best way you could do this. extend it to receive input over additional transports.18:18
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johngarbuttthat could make sense18:19
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johngarbuttalexpilotti: I still like how the metadata service is not hypervisor specific18:20
alexpilottijohngarbutt: me too. But I don't lik ethe idea of exposing it to the guests18:21
alexpilottijohngarbutt: and it's simply moving the complexity to another layer18:21
alexpilottijohngarbutt: mapping on the host "169.254.169.254" is a PINTA as big as teh guest / host channel18:22
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johngarbuttalexpilotti: maybe, they have control over most of these channels anyway though18:22
alexpilottijohngarbutt: they have it anyway18:22
johngarbuttalexpilotti: I think we understand each others requirements better now18:23
alexpilottijohngarbutt: at least for HyperV, the channel is part of the LIS (Linux Integration Services)18:23
alexpilottijohngarbutt: which are part of the Linux kernel18:24
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alexpilottijohngarbutt: being also a simple key / value pair exchange, it's not subject to expolits or else18:24
alexpilottijohngarbutt: (except issues in the Hypervisor itself of course), but the limited attack surface helps18:25
smoseralexpilotti, please do take a look at qemu guest agent. if you could get that running in windows guests, and able to talk over a hyperv socket, that'd be very helpful to lots of people.18:25
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alexpilottismoser: I will18:25
smoser(it probbaly isn't the easiest path, but it has a lot of bang)18:25
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alexpilottismoser:  as I said, the last thing I want is reinventing the wheel18:26
johngarbuttxenstore is very similar, so *should* be an easy port of the above18:27
alexpilottiI suggest to update the discussion in a couple of weeks, after we will have added support for vishy's patch18:27
johngarbuttsounds good18:27
alexpilottijohngarbutt smoser: I have to go, will be around later in case!18:27
swaT30hey guys18:28
johngarbuttlikewise I am afraid18:28
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swaT30anyone ever seen TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'host' when trying to launch compute?18:28
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swaT30http://paste.openstack.org/show/29548/18:28
devoidany devstack maintainers here?18:28
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clarkbdevoid: if you have a devstack question I would go ahead and ask it then people can get to it as they are able18:39
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devoidwell the general question is how stable/essex maintenance is done18:40
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devoidI've submitted a number of bugs related to essex/stable but I've heard no replies.18:42
vishyswaT30: nope, although it sounds like you have an old version of the libvirt driver somehow18:43
swaT30vishy: any way to check?18:43
vishyswaT30: actually that is incorrect18:43
vishyswaT30: it is your network_manager18:44
vishywhat is CONF.network_manager set to ?18:44
swaT30network_manager=nova.network.quantumv2.api.API18:44
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vishyswaT30: that is not a valid network_manager18:52
swaT30well that would make sense18:53
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vishy:)18:53
vishyyou probably want that as your api18:53
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swaT30you're probably right ;)18:54
vishyswaT30: network_api_class=18:54
swaT30man, I've been looking at config files for too long18:54
swaT30vishy: tks! that fixed 'er up18:56
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dolphmjeblair: re:Recheck/Reverify bug # -- awesome! nice work19:09
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jeblairdolphm: thx!19:12
belliotthi guys, can someone please approve andyhky's (andy hill) here https://launchpad.net/~openstack-cla ?19:12
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vishybelliott: done19:14
belliottvishy: thank you :)19:14
vishybelliott: i think you can do it if you are a member of the team no?19:14
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belliottvishy: Perhaps, I don't see an option19:15
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henrynashayoung: do you want to put your stamp on the domain-scoping bp again…I think we're there now! (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18770/)19:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Safer data migrations  https://review.openstack.org/1978819:16
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Auto-detect max SQL migration  https://review.openstack.org/1982819:16
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Stub out find_file... fix policy.json test issue.  https://review.openstack.org/1947519:16
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ayounghenrynash, done.19:24
henrynashayoung: merci19:24
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eglynn_bcwaldon: ping20:21
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eglynn_bcwaldon: can you give https://review.openstack.org/18038 another look?20:21
bcwaldoneglynn_: yes20:22
bcwaldoneglynn_: and I have part of a review written for your glance change20:22
bcwaldoneglynn_: expect that this afternoon20:22
eglynn_bcwaldon: the dependency is now relaxed to WebOb>=1.2, so not as sensitive to the point versions being packaged on various distros20:22
eglynn_bcwaldon: thanks and thanks!20:22
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henrynashyoung, dolphm: skiptest….could you point me to an example…I had been, for example, overriding test_backend tests in test_backend_ldap for the things not yet support there….dolph, I think you feel skip tests is a better solution?20:26
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dolphmhenrynash: raise nose.exc.SkipTest('Blocked by bug ###')20:27
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dolphmhenrynash: overriding the test and leaving it blank sort of asserts that this should never be implemented; raising a skiptest makes it obvious that something is blocking normal testing behavior20:28
henrynashdolphm: yep, good distinction20:29
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dolphmhenrynash: an inline comment would be useful for posterity as well, e.g. 'FIXME(dolph): this backend does not yet support feature X'20:30
henrynashdolphm: sure20:30
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henrynashdolphm: are you going to put your default domain change in ahead of mine?20:32
dolphmhenrynash: do you think that's the best approach?20:33
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henrynashdolphm: I'm not sure quite how else we really do it…I know it makes a few extra upgrade steps, but in the big scheme of things….20:34
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dolphmhenrynash: alright, then i'd like to merge pending migration changes before we rewrite the migration history https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19840/20:36
dolphmhenrynash: do we have any others?20:36
henrynashdolphm: is this in" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19826/20:37
dolphmhenrynash: that's actually dependent on ayoung's review now (it's also testing his fix)20:38
henrynashdolphm: not an actual change in the migration, however20:38
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henrynashdolphm: is ayoung still woking on his change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19840/20:41
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dolphmhenrynash: i don't think so; i made a bunch of comments, but actually implementing them would require splitting the migration into two (so they're way more complex than they sound)20:42
dolphmhenrynash: i'm fine with it as-is20:42
ayounghenrynash, no, that one is ready to go20:43
ayounghenrynash, prior to my patch, the downgrade for sqlite was a no-op.  THat was due to the fact that you can't drop columns from a SQLite table20:43
ayoungmine made sqlite use the sqlalchemy code, and made the sqlalchemy code uses a temporary  table20:43
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fix ATTR_NOT_SPECIFIED comparison errors  https://review.openstack.org/1916120:44
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: get swob.Request.blank to parse path  https://review.openstack.org/1984120:44
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Prevent column summation if no non-None cells  https://review.openstack.org/1983620:44
ayoungdolph should I remove the comment from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19840/2  ?20:45
ayoungIt is a minor change, but probably worth it20:45
henrynashayoung: are there not other places we drop columns?  I think we drop a role column in 007 ?20:46
ayounghenrynash, yep, you are right20:46
ayoungthat will need to change, too20:47
dolphmayoung: i'd be happy to re +2 if you did20:47
ayoungOK20:47
dolphmhenrynash: sqlalchemy-migrate may be doing the table shuffle there for us? i'm not sure20:48
ayoungdolphm, my guess is it is failing but not throwing an error20:49
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ayoungbut interesting that you test doesn't blow up on that issue20:50
dolphmayoung: yeah20:50
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dolphmayoung: it should be creating the column, dropping the column (perhaps failing silently), but then it's successfully creating it again20:50
henrynashdolphm, young: I be afk for a bit, but be back on  later….will check where we are on this then and hopefully be ready to push it through…20:51
ayounghenrynash, dolphm, reposted20:51
ayoungOK if I merge it?20:51
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Use default_if_none rather than default filter  https://review.openstack.org/1983720:52
ayoungdolphm, if you rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19826/  I'll approve20:52
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Peg the version of Ming used in tests  https://review.openstack.org/1973320:53
henrynashayoung: yep I'm good20:53
dolphmayoung: done20:54
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dolphmayoung: +220:55
henrynashayoung: should I wait for jenkins to run….20:55
henrynash?20:55
ayoungheh20:55
dolphmhenrynash: we also drop columns in 2, 3 & 420:55
ayounghenrynash, this is just a comment change, but you can +2 it now, and I can approve based on the +2s after20:56
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dolphmhenrynash: no, jenkins will gate either way20:58
mjforklifeless: got a few minutes on "Define a hypervisor driver method for getting MAC addresses."? Wanted to re-work my pending commit that would benefit from it (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19707/)20:58
lifelessmjfork: sure20:59
henrynashayoung: done21:00
mjforklifeless: I see it wasn't plumbed all the way through to _allocate_mac_addresses in nova/network/manager.py21:00
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lifelessmjfork: I have been focused on quantum21:00
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mjforklifeless: was there a techincal reason? or just time? ok.21:00
lifelessmjfork: as nova-network has to talk to a real network to be useful for baremetal21:01
mjforklifeless: is there a seperate commit for quantuM?21:01
lifelessmjfork: and AFAIK it doesn't have a provider-network concept like quantum does21:01
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lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/19755/21:01
lifelessmjfork: ^21:01
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lifelessmjfork: a further improvement I plan, which I discussed on the -dev list, is to let you configure everything in quantum once and have it looked up by hypervisor-supplied acceptable-macs21:02
lifelessmjfork: I'm just getting to grips with quantum internals now though21:02
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mjforklifeless: what is intended behavior? that the hyper returns one or more MACs and have quantum select 1 of them?21:03
lifelessmjfork: the hypervisor returns either None[no constraints] or a set of acceptable ones21:03
mjforklifeless: but how does one of the acceptable ones get selected for the VM?21:03
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lifelessmjfork: arbitrary21:04
mjforklifeless: ok, see that now in the updated comment.21:04
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mjforklifeless: did you have any conversations with the nova-network team to see if this enhancement would be accpeted there?21:05
lifelesssorry otp21:05
lifelesswillget back to you21:05
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Relax version constraint on Webob-1.0.8  https://review.openstack.org/1803821:09
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Update version code from oslo.  https://review.openstack.org/1959421:43
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lifelessmjfork: sorry, with you now21:48
mjforklifeless: np.21:48
mjforklifeless: did you have any conversations with the nova-network team to see if this enhancement would be accpeted there?21:48
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lifelessmjfork: I did talk with vish about the layout, haven't talked about what doing it for nova-network would look like [because nova network is to be deleted, right? :)]21:48
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mjforkright. ok. i was going to look at it.21:49
lifelessmjfork: that said I think if you've got folk running with nova network, honouring the constraint should be straight forward enough21:49
mjforklifeless: looks pretty straight forward - arbitary selection of a mac and pass it to add_virtual_interface21:49
lifelessjust need to pass macs through the rpcapi layer (be sure to make it optional), and then use from there rather than randomly making one21:50
lifelessmjfork: I'd be delighted to do a review if you put such a thing together21:50
mjforkok, thanks.21:50
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lifeless[or to give more pointers if needed - I'm sure youknow the code already, but I did look through what it would take as part of doing the initial patch, to make sure it wouldn't be impossible for n-network]21:51
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mjforklifeless: its already available in the manager from what i can tell21:51
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lifelessmjfork: yeah, but nova/network/api delegates over rabbit to a nova-network process21:52
mjforklifeless: looks like you added it to the network_api21:52
lifelessright21:53
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mjforklifeless: so is it not availalbe in allocate_for_instance in network_manageR??21:54
lifelessmjfork: but network/api calls self.network_rpcapi.allocate_for_instance21:54
lifelessline 204 of nova/network/api.py21:54
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lifelessmjfork: so you need to add it to args there, and look for it (supporting it missing for backwards compat) in nova/network/rpcapi.py21:55
lifelessmjfork: which also has an unaltered allocate_for_instance21:55
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douarddacan anyone tell me why my latest patchset tests fails ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19087/ )21:56
douardda?21:56
lifelessmjfork: and that finally should get it down to nova/network/manager.py21:56
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: downgrade user and tenant normalized tables downgraded such that sqlite is supported, too  https://review.openstack.org/1984021:58
mjforklifeless: ok, thanks for pointer.21:59
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Stop using no longer valid -E option for pip  https://review.openstack.org/1983821:59
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lifelessmjfork: nova/network/api.py is the interface nova-compute sees; I only touched the surface layer so that nova-compute could call in sensibly.21:59
mjforklifeless: i made the changes locally, will have to test it out.  I just pop a MAC address off the set in _allocate_mac_addresses and pass it to add_virtual_interface and modified add_virtual_interface to only gnereate a mac if the param is None22:00
lifelessmjfork: so you need to add it, with rabbit message compatability, to the inbetween layers22:00
lifelessmjfork: cool!22:00
lifelessmjfork: what virtualiser is this for ?22:00
douarddaI find this jenkins failure (in py26 pip install) strange since it passed with my previous verisio of the patch22:00
mjforklifeless: powervm22:00
douarddaand thath I only fixed a typo between these 2 versions22:01
lifelessmjfork: oh nice22:01
lifelessmjfork: I wonder how closely that aligns to baremetal in general22:01
lifelessmjfork: e.g. could we support it as a specialisation of baremetal.22:01
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lifelessmjfork: will you be at LCA, or ODS ?22:02
mjforki just have a requiremnt to have a special mac address range. you can see my initial commit here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19707/22:02
mjforklifeless: no22:02
lifelessdouardda: looks like it hung22:05
douarddalifeless, so  it is related to the test machinery in jenkins?22:09
douarddamaybe I should try to juste rebase my patch series to fire tests again?22:09
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lifelessdouardda: I don't think so22:12
lifelessI've asked zuul to recheck it22:13
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mordredmjfork, lifeless I like it when things might be related to other things22:15
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SpamapSis there a really quick/simple way to pretend to be a rabbitmq client?22:39
SpamapSjust want to see if messages are going to the topic I think they're going to22:40
lifelessSpamapS: 2 lines of python ?22:40
SpamapSI suppose22:40
lifelessi3 seems to be quite nice22:41
jerdfeltdoes anyone know why the Openstack Contributors list got subscribed to quantum bugs?22:42
jerdfeltYou received this bug notification because you are a member of OpenStack22:42
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jerdfeltContributors, which is subscribed to quantum.22:42
mordredjerdfelt: that doesn't seem like something I'd want...22:44
jerdfeltmordred: yeah, i don't want it either :)22:44
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mordredjerdfelt: I don't see that Openstack Contributors is, isubscribed..., looking further22:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Allow running of sql against the live DB.  https://review.openstack.org/1851922:55
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jeblairmordred: i see that it is subscribed...23:12
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jeblairmordred: i have unsubscribed it23:13
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mordredjeblair: where did you see it23:15
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jeblairmordred: i followed some links from the subscription page for a quantum bug email that i got.23:16
jeblairmordred: like https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1100476/+subscriptions23:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1100476 in quantum "No quota for fixed_ips " [Undecided,New]23:17
mordredawesome23:17
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mordredjerdfelt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19622/23:21
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mordredjerdfelt: related to your ml question23:23
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