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| jhesketh | mikal: Morning | 00:34 |
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| jhesketh | mikal: Time for a PM? | 00:35 |
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| mikal | jhesketh: sure | 00:35 |
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| notmyname | mikal: just saw the tweets. answer: "no" | 01:14 |
| ayoung | clarkb I have no interest in changing the test runner. Seems like busy work to me. You'll have to make a compelling argument to get me excited about it. | 01:14 |
| notmyname | mikal: but to clarify, swift (of course) will end up using the system's page cache, so more memory allows more stuff to be cached. this may be important depending on the cluster and use case | 01:15 |
| mikal | notmyname: ahhh cool | 01:16 |
| mikal | notmyname: this was in the context of a "write only" backup storage cloud | 01:16 |
| notmyname | mikal: did you hear this online or in person? | 01:16 |
| mikal | notmyname: this was in the context of a mailing list conversation about swift as a backup solution. Unfortunately the list is private (its a members only list for SAGE AU) | 01:16 |
| mikal | notmyname: I'm not a member, so I can't reply directly | 01:17 |
| notmyname | mikal: ah. then certainly not. "write only" (/dev/null? har har) wouldn't be sensitive at all to latency and therefore cache doesn't matter | 01:17 |
| mikal | notmyname: sweet | 01:17 |
| clarkb | ayoung: I can start with this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1153720 :) | 01:17 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1153720 in keystone "replace nosetest with tox and testr" [Undecided,New] | 01:17 |
| mikal | notmyname: thanks for debunking it for me | 01:17 |
| notmyname | mikal: any time :-) | 01:17 |
| clarkb | ayoung: nose is unreliable. failures aren't always reflected as such by nose. nose lets your write bad tests that pass when they shouldn't or only pass when run in the order executed by nose | 01:19 |
| clarkb | testr is less forgiving and while this results in an initial cost, the long term cost is much lower because now you aren't trying to figure out how $thing got past the gate just to find out your setup class or setup module threw and exception which nose didn't think was an error | 01:20 |
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| clarkb | there are other benefits too. parallel tests execution makes things faster. subunit is a rich log format that makes debugging easier (testr can use it to rerun only failing tests and do bisection of failing tests). So this may be busy work if you run the tests a few times a day but when you run them for every patchset there is a lot of value | 01:23 |
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| jamielennox | clarkb, ayoung: yea, i've thought about doing testr for keystone, this wouldn't have happened: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1178532 | 01:28 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1178532 in keystone "Keystone Client tests find old contrib.ec2" [Undecided,New] | 01:28 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, oh? You have my attention | 01:28 |
| jamielennox | i think it will be easier when we aren't running things against a real server. Threading that is asking for trouble | 01:28 |
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| ayoung | clarkb, parallel is cool. | 01:29 |
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| ayoung | clarkb, jamielennox is working toward webtest in place of using an eventlet server.... | 01:29 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: actually if you can tell me what the proper outcome of that bug should be i'll have a look at addressing it | 01:32 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1178532 ? | 01:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1178532 in keystone "Keystone Client tests find old contrib.ec2" [Undecided,New] | 01:32 |
| jamielennox | yea | 01:32 |
| ayoung | looking | 01:32 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, hmm...well, i am not sure if we are seeing a false negative there or not | 01:33 |
| ayoung | I think we are... | 01:33 |
| ayoung | but I was seeing tests fail when run individually....let see. | 01:33 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: that's about where i got to as well, i'm not really sure what we should be seeing there | 01:34 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, I know the desired state is to test the auth_token and ec2 middlewares with the code we'd expect them to be deployed with in production. In the case of ec2 the middleware is still in keystone, and needs to move to keystone client, as does the s3 middleware | 01:35 |
| ayoung | so maybe this is just the kick in the pants we need to make that happen | 01:35 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/middleware/ec2_token.py | 01:36 |
| ayoung | and | 01:36 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/middleware/s3_token.py | 01:36 |
| ayoung | ec2 token also needs a unit test. | 01:36 |
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| jamielennox | but what is the point in testing them against old keystone clients? are we trying to make sure that they still run against a more modern server, or are we testing that the server can run with an older keystoneclient library? | 01:37 |
| ayoung | There is a trivial fix to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/904526 | 01:37 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 904526 in keystone "ec2tokens passes AWS Access Key ID twice" [Medium,Confirmed] | 01:37 |
| ayoung | but it needs a unit test to confirm | 01:37 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, we are trying to make sure that upgrades will work, when the versions of the server and client are out of sync | 01:38 |
| jamielennox | in which case what we are seeing is correct, the tests should fail | 01:38 |
| jamielennox | because the older client doesn't have the middleware in it, thus test setup is wrong | 01:39 |
| jamielennox | there are a few TODO(termies) floating around so i assume he wrote this section | 01:39 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, should be a deliberate failure, though. | 01:48 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: what do you mean? | 01:51 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, if we mix and match, and it fails, in the unit tests, it should be because we are forcing it to fail. THis looks like it is accidentally getting the wrong version of the older utils with the newer middleware. | 01:51 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: ok, sure the test failing should be deliberate. It's not really getting the older version with the new middleware though. It's getting the up-to-date version when it's supposed to be using the old middleware. | 01:57 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yep | 01:57 |
| jamielennox | and i take it this is wrong | 01:57 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, that is my take on it, yep | 02:00 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, try ./run_tests.sh test_keystoneclient test_keystoneclient:KcEssex3TestCase like in the bug report | 02:00 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: ok, bug confirmed. what do you think should be happening? this kind of says that pushing middleware into the client is a broken upgrade strategy | 02:01 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so it needs to be out of the server. THe client is the right place, but we need to make sure that the right files get resolved. I suspect that the solution involves using unique package names... | 02:02 |
| ayoung | lets see | 02:02 |
| ayoung | ah...not sufficient.... | 02:02 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, so the problem is that we have the wrong version already resolved....and you think testr will fix that? | 02:03 |
| ayoung | Brand new process space, nice and clean? | 02:03 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: no i don't think it will fix it. I think that the way it runs tests would have highlighted it before now | 02:05 |
| ayoung | so we need insulation at the package resolution layer. Not sure how to do that properly | 02:05 |
| jamielennox | i'm not sure if this is possible but i think that you should run client tests in a new process | 02:06 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, ok, annotate that in the bug, and we'll follow up on it. | 02:07 |
| jamielennox | actually, i'd be interested to see that if you didn't do from keystoneclient.xxx import utils as ec2_utils but just did a straight import would that mean it would be found when you did the module replacement? | 02:08 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, interesting...play around with it if you want | 02:08 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: yea, i'll see if it makes a difference and put it on the report if so | 02:09 |
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| zyluo | arosen, ping | 02:27 |
| zyluo | arosen, well actually each project should redefine synchronized by giving it a prefix | 02:28 |
| zyluo | arosen, that way the prefix is fixed in to the synchronized decorator | 02:28 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, so i've been working on the html patch, and trying to think through how it will work in conjunction with Kerberos/cleit cert/basic-auth. Tell me if this makes sense: | 02:40 |
| ayoung | when running keystone that way, you protect all of the resources with the auth mechanism | 02:40 |
| ayoung | asking for a token is a deliberate act, and works to prevent XSRF attacks | 02:40 |
| ayoung | No changes in state can happen without a token deliberately written into the X-Auth-Token field. | 02:41 |
| ayoung | to allow people to actually view the page, we provide a minor amount of Javascript that will copy the token into the the X-Auth-Token field on form submission | 02:42 |
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| jamielennox | why not just give the token as a cookie? | 02:44 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, XSRF: Cross Site Request Forgery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_request_forgery | 02:48 |
| jamielennox | right but how is that different to what you can do with the CLI tools now? | 02:49 |
| ayoung | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_request_forgery#Prevention | 02:49 |
| jamielennox | shouldn't the same bearer-ness we are putting in tokens work for both applications | 02:49 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I can't speak to Horizon (I assume they use something from DJango) but the web services are not typically in your browser. And, I think they chose to use X-Auth-Token explicitly as a XSRF avoidnace mechanism | 02:50 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so I think that, if we are responsible for putting the token into the header using Javascript, we should be safe. Does that look right to you? | 02:52 |
| jamielennox | right, was thinking of something different | 02:53 |
| jamielennox | the javascript seems unnecessary for something that should be fairly simple | 02:53 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, we might also be able to use the HTTP Referer header | 02:54 |
| jamielennox | are we still looking to do 2nd factor for havanna? | 02:55 |
| ayoung | "However a request that omits the Referer header must be treated as unauthorized " | 02:55 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so that might be sufficient: | 02:55 |
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| ayoung | ensure that the referrer is always a keystone page, and enforce always checking it | 02:55 |
| ayoung | then we might be able to put the token in the cookie.... | 02:55 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, 2 factor? Depends on who you mean by "We" | 02:56 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: hmm, doesn't necessarily matter cause you do two factor auth, not 2 factor with the token | 02:57 |
| jamielennox | https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Cross-Site_Request_Forgery_%28CSRF%29_Prevention_Cheat_Sheet#Checking_The_Referer_Header | 02:57 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, that looks promising | 02:58 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: i prefer that approach to having to keep user state | 03:00 |
| jamielennox | it makes token usage much more similar to the cli as well | 03:00 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, OK, we'll have a few options. I'll record that as the direction and get some people that are smart about it to review | 03:00 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I'm think then, that an authenticated user would always get a token. It would start out unscoped, but if they hit the right URL they get a scoped one, and that could get recorded in the cookie | 03:01 |
| ayoung | since authN data would be set with each request, going back to an unscoped, or one scoped to a different domain is always possible | 03:02 |
| jamielennox | if you have an unscoped token why would you be sending authN data? | 03:03 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: note that whilst i understand why it would be useful, i'm a little skeptical on doing html in keystone, the smaller the change to the base the better | 03:05 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, you wouldn't need to send an unscoped token, just that keystone could always reproduce one for you if it needed to | 03:06 |
| ayoung | but, tru, you could just do https and only authenticate once up front. Any 403's could actually kick you into a validation URL, but they wouldn't say how to authenticate, which breaks the HTTP spec | 03:07 |
| ayoung | 401 needs to say "here is how you auth" | 03:07 |
| jamielennox | ok, well why issue an unscoed one at all? this token should only be used for this keystone only, what cause does this token have to be transfered? | 03:07 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, actually, I agree with you, no need to have unscoped tokens | 03:08 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, but that is If and only if you always pass authN data | 03:08 |
| ayoung | we probably should remove the userid and password from the token request and replace it with basic-auth | 03:09 |
| jamielennox | sure on basic-auth, but you can probably do that in the server somehow | 03:09 |
| jamielennox | but why pass authN data? once you have your keystone token what else do you need? | 03:10 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, that is the point, the unscoped token is kindof useless outside of keystone, so why bother with it...damnt termie is right again.... | 03:12 |
| jamielennox | lol, not sure what i stumbled upon there | 03:13 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, termie and I were discussing the unscoped token and he was firmly against it. I now have come around to his way of thinking | 03:14 |
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| ayoung | but, in order to get rid of unscoped tokens, we need to pass data to keystone, either basic-auth, or ideally some better, more secure format | 03:14 |
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| jamielennox | yes, once, same as signing into a website. That keystone scoped token then becomes your cookie similar to the CLI method. Why would you pass around authN after that? | 03:15 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, you wouldn't need to pass it around, except for session timeout | 03:18 |
| ayoung | yeah, unscoped or scoped tokens become cookie, but you really need a subset of the scoped data to make some decisions. In the past t | 03:18 |
| jamielennox | meh, session timeout they have to get a new token | 03:19 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, in the past there was an admin tenant that was responsible for admin stuff | 03:19 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, right, although with kerberos/x509that gets somewhat in-lined | 03:19 |
| ayoung | so the new token is seamless | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | not really | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | the token we issue is linked to the kerberos/cert that they sign in with, same as cli | 03:20 |
| ayoung | getting the new token is seamless...ok, I am getting tired here. I think you get a sense of the problems, and probably will have some good ideas on the solutions. | 03:20 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yep | 03:20 |
| ayoung | I'm going to crash. fire me off a summary of the things you need me to discuss at the meeting tomorrow, will you please? | 03:21 |
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| jamielennox | go to bed | 03:21 |
| jamielennox | yea, there isn't much | 03:21 |
| jamielennox | talk to you later | 03:21 |
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| zyluo | garyk, ping | 06:50 |
| garyk | zyluo: hi | 06:50 |
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| zyluo | garyk, about the lowercase referencing thing. | 06:50 |
| garyk | zyluo: yes. i think that we should wait for the oslo db support to get in then we can move forwards with your changes | 06:51 |
| zyluo | garyk, I think it should be done before you patch if I'm not wrong. | 06:51 |
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| garyk | why? the code should be backward compatible. | 06:51 |
| zyluo | garyk, oh is it? | 06:51 |
| garyk | if not then we may have a serious problem. | 06:51 |
| zyluo | no the conf file is backward compatible but the code won't be. | 06:52 |
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| zyluo | So I think what mark was thinking was that the same conf files can work in G and H | 06:52 |
| garyk | good point. if you see the comments i made in the review. i think that the oslo code should provide a function to get the details and not have the quantum code access directly | 06:52 |
| zyluo | yes I agree with that. | 06:53 |
| garyk | do you want to add the functions to the oslo db code or should i? | 06:53 |
| garyk | once that is in we can merge that and then proceed with your changes to the config files | 06:53 |
| zyluo | oh you mean oslo should support capital references to group names? | 06:53 |
| garyk | no. what i mean in that osl should have a function: db_configuration_get (or something with a better name) | 06:54 |
| zyluo | oh ic | 06:54 |
| garyk | this should return the the configuration values in a dictionary | 06:54 |
| garyk | the sql connection, retries etc. | 06:54 |
| zyluo | if your busy I can do it now | 06:54 |
| garyk | i am always busy :) | 06:54 |
| zyluo | haha | 06:55 |
| garyk | how about we toss a coin. | 06:55 |
| garyk | heads or tails? | 06:55 |
| zyluo | tails | 06:55 |
| garyk | it was heads (2 out of 3). | 06:55 |
| zyluo | fingers crossed | 06:55 |
| garyk | only joking. you are welcome to go ahead and make the change | 06:55 |
| zyluo | haha ok thanks! | 06:55 |
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| garyk | thanks! | 06:56 |
| garyk | if we can get your change and dims changes in, then i'll rebase my code on top of that ... i just hope that it does not take weeks | 06:56 |
| zyluo | it won't I think..our patches have been hanging quite long enough | 06:57 |
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| garyk | yeah. far too long. thanks for the help. much appreciated | 07:00 |
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| zyluo | garyk, I think we need more discussion about the public function in oslo which fetches database details. | 08:34 |
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| zyluo | garyk, let me think about it a bit more and we can talk about it later. | 08:35 |
| garyk | zyluo: ok. do you want to send a mail to the list | 08:35 |
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| zyluo | garyk, sure | 08:35 |
| zyluo | garyk, and the change from DATABASE to database, I think it makes sense doing it in your patch | 08:35 |
| zyluo | after dananum's patch merges | 08:36 |
| garyk | ok. thanks. | 08:36 |
| garyk | i'll take care of it as soon as dims patch lands | 08:36 |
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| Qten | I had this bit of code vishy helped me with in folsom but few things have changed in grizzly and i was hoping it would have already been implemented. https://github.com/qgrasso/nova/commit/31f6839a2c2dd72e2cc44c37cb316610b42598bd | 09:06 |
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| abhishekkr | have folks tried (or are already successfully) running OpenStack using Cython ? | 13:20 |
| sld | ...what is cython? | 13:20 |
| koolhead17 | cython? | 13:20 |
| abhishekkr | it was project that converts Python code to C Code which can be compiled using 'C Language' Compiler providing great performance boost | 13:22 |
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| abhishekkr | haven't extensively used it yet... last time I heard of it was ongoing project | 13:23 |
| sld | yikes...sounds dangerous. lol | 13:23 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, so, actually I don't need to update cli.py to add the credential backend to the migration call. | 16:38 |
| ayoung | I think that fact that you called that out, though, indicates an issue we are going to have to face sooner or later: migrations are monolitihic, and don't support plug-ins | 16:38 |
| ayoung | but there is no need to specifically call db_sync on each back end. | 16:39 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: it is weird because the same code gets called for each backend. | 16:59 |
| bknudson | ayoung: if there's at least 1 backend configured to use sql then migration needs to happen. | 17:00 |
| bknudson | but if there's 0, then migration doesn't happen | 17:00 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, yep | 17:01 |
| bknudson | so if only credential is configured to use sql backend, then db_sync needs to create db | 17:01 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I think it was designed with per backend migrations in mind, but then implemented monolithic ally | 17:02 |
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| bknudson | I mean, if credential is the only backend configured to use sql, db_sync needs to create the db | 17:02 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yeah, I'll add it in... | 17:02 |
| bknudson | we'd need a separate migration store per backend. | 17:02 |
| bknudson | which doesn't seem difficult. | 17:03 |
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| bknudson | migration would need a separate version per backend... not sure how that works. | 17:03 |
| ayoung | bknudson, nope. Although we need a way to register and manage extensions, which is trickier | 17:03 |
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| bknudson | I just happened to be looking at this the other day | 17:03 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I think that we need to make it happen. Here is what I see happening over time | 17:05 |
| ayoung | bknudson, people will crete extensions, and those will need a backing store | 17:05 |
| ayoung | but they won't be part of core. At least, not at first | 17:06 |
| ayoung | so we'll have the overall version id, and then one per extension, and they might not be in lock-step | 17:06 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: makes sense, I'm just not sure how you get multiple versions from sqlalchemy. | 17:07 |
| ayoung | bknudson, lets see what the table looks like | 17:07 |
| ayoung | repository_id repository_path version | 17:08 |
| ayoung | so the table should support it | 17:08 |
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| bknudson | ok, so we'd have separate paths. | 17:08 |
| ayoung | keystone, /opt/stack/keystone/keystone/common/sql/migrate_repo ,21 are the values I have | 17:08 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yep | 17:09 |
| bknudson | ayoung: easy. | 17:09 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I'll write up the blueprint | 17:09 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: a somewhat related problem... during the tests (see jamielennox's merge) the tables are all created | 17:09 |
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| bknudson | but in order to create all the tables all the models must have been imported | 17:09 |
| bknudson | and sometimes not all the models are imported | 17:10 |
| bknudson | e.g., the Ec2Credentials model. | 17:10 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, which merge is that? | 17:11 |
| bknudson | ayoung: I wrote down the problems in https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1179259 because I couldn't work on it right away. | 17:12 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1179259 in keystone "test_keystoneclient_sql fails when run by itself" [Undecided,New] | 17:12 |
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| bknudson | it was commit efc30beab10faf4720a96322adb135726662b025 , to support mysql and postgres | 17:13 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone/sql-migrate-extensions | 17:14 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: the formatting is atrotious! | 17:14 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yes, yes it is...lemme fix dat | 17:14 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, that should be better | 17:16 |
| bknudson | ayoung: this should make migration tests a lot easier too. | 17:16 |
| ayoung | bknudson, it should also keep us from stepping on each other with every migration. | 17:17 |
| bknudson | How many 23s can we have? | 17:17 |
| bknudson | I think there's 3 in flight already | 17:17 |
| ayoung | bknudson, BTW, I am not sure if the placeholder approach will work | 17:17 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: we'll let nova try it first. | 17:17 |
| ayoung | yeah, still, if they are all touching the identity backend.... | 17:17 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: how do we migrate to the new migration scheme ? (e.g. for credentials) could we add an empty 001 migration and then take over from there? | 17:20 |
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| shri | currently when I run tox in the main swift directory, it runs all tests. Is there a way to run specific tests. For e.g. If I want to only run tempurl tests, how do I do that? | 18:44 |
| clarkb | shri: `tox -epy27 -- path.to.test | 18:44 |
| clarkb | ` | 18:44 |
| shri | cool… let me try that | 18:45 |
| clarkb | using whatever format nosetests accept for specifying tests | 18:45 |
| clarkb | the posargs are passed through to nose | 18:45 |
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| shri | clarkb: I tried this: $ tox -epy27 -- test/unit/common/middleware/test_tempurl.py . But that runs all the tests | 18:49 |
| clarkb | shri: I don't think that is the proper format | 18:50 |
| clarkb | use the same format that you use to run a specific test with nose. its something like test.unit.common.middleware.test_tempurl:TestClass | 18:50 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, henrynash, gyee I just want an agreement that we should push to get the backend tests into the gate process, and maybe some guidance as far as making that happen | 19:00 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: +1 | 19:01 |
| henrynash | how many of our DB tests need to modified? | 19:01 |
| bknudson | ayoung: jamielennox did find a lot of problems in the tests getting mysql to work. | 19:01 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: my only issue is that you're stepping on tempest | 19:01 |
| bknudson | henrynash: I don't think it's the db tests need to be modified at this point. | 19:01 |
| ayoung | henrynash, not sure, but can we get them in there in a "not voting" way first? | 19:01 |
| ayoung | dolphm, sort of, but I think the keystone client tests have already squashed tempest under their iron heel | 19:02 |
| stevemar | termie: ping | 19:02 |
| dolphm | ayoung: api behavior should be preserved across multiple combinations of backend drivers -- that kind of testing sounds like tempest | 19:02 |
| termie | stevemar: holla | 19:02 |
| stevemar | termie: got a whole bunch of stuff i want to check in/ ask you to review for oauth | 19:02 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, so if we can somehow do it under the aegis of temptest, you think that would be best? | 19:02 |
| dolphm | ayoung: if we have parity between client tests and tempest's suite, i wouldn't be opposed to dropping those tests from keystone | 19:02 |
| dolphm | ayoung: yes | 19:03 |
| henrynash | dolphm: does tempest run all our db tests on all backend? | 19:03 |
| ayoung | henrynash, sort of | 19:03 |
| dolphm | stevemar: what's the scoop on oauth vs havana-m1? may 28 | 19:03 |
| stevemar | termie: but gerrit is yelling at me; can you 'restore' your work items in gerrit, and mark them as WIP again? | 19:03 |
| ayoung | henrynash, it runs a set of integration tests on each backend, but not our unit tests | 19:03 |
| stevemar | dolphm, i'm tryin to get it in | 19:03 |
| termie | stevemar: o | 19:03 |
| dolphm | stevemar: you can bypass that issue by generating new Change-Id's, btw | 19:03 |
| termie | stevemar: m | 19:03 |
| termie | stevemar: f | 19:03 |
| termie | stevemar: g | 19:03 |
| stevemar | dolphm: oh? | 19:04 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: s'plain a little more? how can i do that | 19:04 |
| dolphm | stevemar: delete the Change-Id from whatever you're trying to put into review, let git-review assign a new one, and mention the bp in the commit message | 19:04 |
| ayoung | termie, btw oauth needs its own SQL db tables, right? so we should do a db_sync on it? | 19:04 |
| dolphm | stevemar: effectively creates a new review history; considering you're taking those commits over from termie, i don't think that would be inappropriate | 19:05 |
| termie | ayoung: it will, yeah | 19:05 |
| termie | dolphm: those commits won't exist later | 19:05 |
| lbragstad | Hey all, just curious about something in Oslo-incubator. If one wanted to use something that didn't have a Maintainer and was Status: Orphan, does that have a serious effect on it being used in another project? https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/MAINTAINERS#L172 for example? | 19:05 |
| termie | dolphm: so i feel like stevemar should be able to do whatever he wants | 19:05 |
| dolphm | termie: that's what i'm suggesting | 19:05 |
| termie | i also suspect topol is in italy | 19:06 |
| termie | so NO SUPERVISION | 19:06 |
| termie | wooooo | 19:06 |
| dolphm | termie: i think stevemar is remote from topol anyway | 19:06 |
| ayoung | stevemar, termie, OK, so the migrate code allows you to specify a repo, I'm think that it should be separate from what is in common...something like /opt/stack/keystone/keystone/contrib/ouath/sql/migrate_repo | 19:06 |
| stevemar | considering he's normally a country away, it's always no supervision! | 19:06 |
| ayoung | we already support that, sort of | 19:06 |
| dolphm | just not from the cli | 19:07 |
| dolphm | # keystone-manage db_sync [extension-name] | 19:07 |
| ayoung | dolphm, yeah, that would be to do it explicitly, but the others are done based on the config file already, based on the active backend | 19:08 |
| ayoung | dolphm, also, if we enumerate the extensions in the config file it will fix another bug | 19:08 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: we can't introspect all configured pipelines, i don't think? | 19:09 |
| dolphm | ayoung: ideally extensions should listen for GET /extension calls add add themselves to the response, if that's what you're talking about | 19:09 |
| termie | we could if we felt like it, but it sounds overkilly | 19:09 |
| dolphm | termie: +1 | 19:09 |
| ayoung | dolphm https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1177531 | 19:10 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1177531 in keystone "Active Extensions not enumerated " [Undecided,New] | 19:10 |
| dolphm | ayoung: right, see above | 19:10 |
| ayoung | dolphm, yep, so why not just have to explicitly register them in order to get the database and to get them listed? | 19:10 |
| dolphm | ayoung: because they're already in the pipeline, already being executed, so there's no need to "register" them again | 19:10 |
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| dolphm | that's just redundant and will result in "broken" configurations and frustrated users | 19:11 |
| ayoung | dolphm, ... ok, I kind of agree with you there....um, how about a decorator, then? | 19:11 |
| dolphm | ayoung: a decorator around what that does what | 19:11 |
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| termie | this sounds like a job for metaclasses | 19:11 |
| ayoung | @extension that adds them to the list of of db_sync and to show up in the extensions collection | 19:11 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, termie, it could be added to the manager class __init__ function | 19:14 |
| ayoung | Doesn't even need to be a decorator | 19:14 |
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| dolphm | i don't understand what a decorator would accomplish | 19:17 |
| dolphm | at least from the db_sync perspective | 19:17 |
| bknudson | I think the extension just needs to register a function to get called on db_sync. | 19:18 |
| ayoung | dolphm, say we made a decorate @extension, and ,when the class was initialized, it addediteslf to the collection of extension. THen, when db_syn is called from the cli, it would iterate through the extensions collection to call db_sync on each | 19:18 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yes, that is one of two things | 19:18 |
| ayoung | bknudson, the other is to show up in the lin as per https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1177531 | 19:19 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1177531 in keystone "Active Extensions not enumerated " [Undecided,New] | 19:19 |
| ayoung | bknudson, OK, I have to run. I'll be back online tonight | 19:19 |
| bknudson | ayoung: yes, would fix that too. | 19:20 |
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| huats_ | hey dolphm how are you ? not sure if you saw my answer to your review | 19:21 |
| prometheanfire | is there ever going to be a release of glance for 2013.1.1? | 19:21 |
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| huats_ | I'd like to discuss it with you :) | 19:21 |
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| dolphm | huats_: probably not, link? | 19:21 |
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| huats_ | dolphm: https://review.openstack.org/27650 | 19:24 |
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| dolphm | huats_: ah, i meant to look up what you need to do exactly | 19:24 |
| huats_ | but actually I have replied to the email I have received not inside the review :( | 19:24 |
| dolphm | huats_: do you have a Publish button or something? | 19:24 |
| dolphm | huats_: i didn't send an email, i dont think? | 19:25 |
| huats_ | dolphm: actually gerrit did it for you :) | 19:25 |
| dolphm | huats_: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gerrit_Workflow#Drafts | 19:26 |
| huats_ | dolphm: ok so now I see the publish button I have juste clicked on it... | 19:26 |
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| dolphm | huats_: awesome, it's up now | 19:27 |
| huats_ | thanks to you... | 19:27 |
| huats_ | the "weird" thing is that you told me to open up just on part of it, but I feell that the publish has done it for the whole changeset | 19:28 |
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| dolphm | huats_: see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gerrit_Workflow#Updating_a_Change | 19:30 |
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| huats_ | dolphm: ok thanks | 19:32 |
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| huats_ | I am about too look at that ! | 19:32 |
| enikanorov | salv-orlando: hi. Do you have several spare minutes? I'd like to discuss some infrastructure questions | 19:34 |
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| dcasier_ | Hi | 19:36 |
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| huats_ | dolphm: it might be better now :) | 19:39 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: sent an email to your gmail acct, | 19:41 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: replied | 20:05 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: thanks. | 20:12 |
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| devoid | markwash: If you have a second can you look at https://ask.openstack.org/question/1094/can-i-have-multiple-openstack-deployments-under-a-single-domain/ and let me know if I'm crazy to try this with glance? | 20:27 |
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| salv-orlando | enikanorov: If you are still around I am here | 20:31 |
| enikanorov | salv-orlando: i'm here | 20:31 |
| enikanorov | ok, so here's the case | 20:32 |
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| enikanorov | we have loadbalancer plugin which inherits from corresponding db plugin | 20:32 |
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| enikanorov | but it does some more, it communicates with agents (or any additional things beside Db access) | 20:32 |
| enikanorov | so I'd like to test those additional logic, and in that case I'd like to mock out entire Db plugin | 20:33 |
| enikanorov | but it seesm to be impossible in case of inheritance | 20:33 |
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| enikanorov | so that made me think that we need to decouple plugin from its db plugin counterpart | 20:34 |
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| salv-orlando | mocking out the db is indeed frankly impossible | 20:34 |
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| enikanorov | i found pretty simple solution to that | 20:34 |
| enikanorov | which i actually like | 20:34 |
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| enikanorov | but it puts some questions on the table | 20:35 |
| salv-orlando | like why not get rid of the db plugin altogether? | 20:35 |
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| enikanorov | no :) | 20:35 |
| enikanorov | db plugin becomes just a property of the plugin | 20:35 |
| enikanorov | and every call that plugin implements is proxied as self.db.call instead of super(plugin, self).call( | 20:36 |
| enikanorov | and every call that plugin doesn't implement | 20:36 |
| enikanorov | is proxied via __getattr__ magic | 20:36 |
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| salv-orlando | so it's replacing inheritance with composition? | 20:36 |
| enikanorov | right | 20:36 |
| enikanorov | that works pretty smoth, but | 20:37 |
| salv-orlando | yeah we discussed the same thing for the core plugin for mocking out db in unit tests | 20:37 |
| enikanorov | i had to get rid of the check in extensions.py | 20:37 |
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| enikanorov | let me point you to the code | 20:37 |
| salv-orlando | k | 20:37 |
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| morganfainberg | oh i missed the meeting. erg. | 20:38 |
| enikanorov | salv-orlando: https://github.com/openstack/quantum/blob/master/quantum/api/extensions.py#L575 | 20:38 |
| enikanorov | indeed this method is only used in loadbalancer extension | 20:39 |
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| enikanorov | so what it is trying to tell: i need a controller that implements my interface | 20:39 |
| enikanorov | when i switched to composition it's not a case anymore | 20:40 |
| salv-orlando | so the extension framework assumes you're using inheritance | 20:40 |
| salv-orlando | but you can inherit the base plugin too I guess | 20:40 |
| enikanorov | and also i cannot inherit a plugin from PluginBase | 20:40 |
| salv-orlando | the one which is merely an abstract interface | 20:40 |
| enikanorov | not, its abstract | 20:40 |
| enikanorov | it won't let me instantiate | 20:41 |
| salv-orlando | you can't inherit from abstract? | 20:41 |
| enikanorov | i need to impl methods | 20:41 |
| enikanorov | which i wanted to proxy | 20:41 |
| salv-orlando | so you can't because you want to do some cool thing | 20:41 |
| enikanorov | right | 20:41 |
| enikanorov | so I though we may consider removing this check... | 20:42 |
| juice | sorry to interrupt but does anyone know if there is a preference of using looping call over periodic task or vice versa? | 20:42 |
| juice | this is in reference to oslo package | 20:43 |
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| enikanorov | salv-orlando: what do you think? | 20:44 |
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| salv-orlando | what are you proposing to replace it with>? | 20:45 |
| dolphm | bknudson: who was going to pick up the notifications bp? i'd like to assign it | 20:45 |
| enikanorov | well, there are two options I guess. | 20:45 |
| enikanorov | one is to get rid of it | 20:46 |
| bknudson | dolphm: lbragstad | 20:46 |
| lbragstad | hey | 20:46 |
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| lbragstad | dolphm: that would be me | 20:46 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: what's your lp name? | 20:46 |
| enikanorov | another one is to cast more magic and check that composit class for implementing an interface | 20:46 |
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| enikanorov | *composite | 20:46 |
| lbragstad | dolphm: ldbragst | 20:46 |
| lbragstad | ldbragst Lance Bragstad | 20:47 |
| lbragstad | dolphm: ^ | 20:47 |
| salv-orlando | I am not very keen on magic | 20:47 |
| enikanorov | i guess it will be iteration over methods in the pluginBase and checking plugin | 20:47 |
| salv-orlando | magic is hard to mantain | 20:47 |
| enikanorov | agree. I'm trying to recollect why such check was added at all | 20:47 |
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| enikanorov | especially when the only consumer is loadbalancer plugin | 20:48 |
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| salv-orlando | can we leverage supported_extension_aliases? | 20:49 |
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| enikanorov | that is done by design | 20:50 |
| enikanorov | you only load those which are listed in some plugin | 20:50 |
| enikanorov | *in loaded plugin | 20:50 |
| salv-orlando | yeah | 20:51 |
| ayoung | gyee, you around? Want to talk token formats? | 20:52 |
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| enikanorov | so i think that existing checks of supported_extension_aliases is enough | 20:52 |
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| salv-orlando | you're probably right | 20:53 |
| enikanorov | in fact I recall the review where plugin was added and i commented that it's better to have composition rather than inherit it. But since it isn't the case for all other plugins, it was not done. | 20:55 |
| enikanorov | but all core plugins are implementing db logic, as far as i understand, so inheritance is consistent for them | 20:56 |
| salv-orlando | yes. For the ext framework bear in mind that there's a lot of code which is not probably outdated | 20:56 |
| salv-orlando | I discussed this with other core devs. We concluded that it's a bit too disruptive now. | 20:56 |
| salv-orlando | We'll probably at some point introduce a 'plugin V3' which uses composition among the other things | 20:57 |
| salv-orlando | but probably you can get started now. | 20:57 |
| salv-orlando | for load balancing | 20:57 |
| enikanorov | for lbaas it seems to be very small change. ok, I'll post the patch soon | 20:58 |
| salv-orlando | k | 20:59 |
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| belmoreira | hello | 21:05 |
| belmoreira | This patch is waiting for approval, or not... If you can have a look it would be great ====> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28110/ | 21:05 |
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| gyee | ayoung, I am back | 21:06 |
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| ayoung | gyee, and I am leaving, sorry | 21:14 |
| ayoung | gyee, look at my comments on the code review, and we can discuss tomorrow | 21:14 |
| ayoung | or later on tonight, if you really want | 21:15 |
| gyee | k, I am trying to make sense of your comments | 21:15 |
| gyee | my patch doesn't have anything to do what you are talking about | 21:15 |
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| ayoung | gyee, think about it in terms of naming, and what you are calling things. | 21:19 |
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| geekinutah | hey folks, I'm trying to track down the commit that originally introduced the rabbit_durable_queues option into what is now oslo (oslo-incubator/openstack/common/rpc/impl_kombu.py) | 22:58 |
| geekinutah | unfortunately the earliest commit I can find is: "* cf19def - (11 months ago) Add rpc to openstack-common. — Russell Bryant" :( | 22:58 |
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| geekinutah | nm, found it, was commit e7858fabb433a0ee587a9444f749381bf36d5d92 | 23:10 |
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| clarkb | geekinutah: `git log -p` can be useful for that sort of thing if not very elegant | 23:13 |
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| imcsk8 | hello, i'm adding gentoo support to the devstack set of scripts. i've submitted my code to gerrit as "DRAFT" because is in a very early stage, since a DRAFT change needs to you to add a reviewer manually i wanted to ask if you guys would like to check it out just to let me know if i'm on the right path or should do something different. thanks! | 23:48 |
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| clarkb | imcsk8: you might try adding the devstack-core group | 23:52 |
| clarkb | as they have permissions to approve changes to devstack | 23:52 |
| imcsk8 | thanks clarkb ! | 23:53 |
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