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| ayoung | jamielennox, I rebased your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29050/ . Give me a thumbs up that it is correct and I will kick off the merge | 00:04 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: ok, looking | 00:04 |
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| jamielennox | damnit that xml tests patch is using the eventlet server rather than the webtest way | 00:09 |
| jamielennox | bit late now but i should have seen that one | 00:09 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: looks fine | 00:10 |
| jamielennox | the only thing that has changed is some testing stuff which talks to apis so shouldn't touch eventlet stuff | 00:10 |
| adil | Hi everybody | 00:10 |
| adil | how to contribute to openstack code dev | 00:10 |
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| jamielennox | i'm not sure why it just didn't just merge it | 00:11 |
| jamielennox | adil: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HowToContribute#How_can_I_help | 00:11 |
| adil | thnaks jamielennox | 00:12 |
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| adil | i'm a devops sysadmin with java c++ coding background, do i need to learn python from scratch to get familiar with openstack code | 00:13 |
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| jamielennox | adil: Most things are python, there is some ruby, i'm not sure about c++ maybe in the python bindings | 00:16 |
| jamielennox | adil: if you're devops maybe look into devstack or packstack and the puppet modules | 00:17 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, there were too many changs to the import statements of test.py for it to resolve. I had to manually remove import subprocess from the master version and then it worked fine | 00:36 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: ah ok, so you did have some manual resolves that's fine | 00:36 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: i'm pretty sick of rebasing that patch so i'm fine to let you do it :) | 00:37 |
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| ayoung | yeah, lets get it merged | 00:41 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, learned something interesting about Kerberos today. A coworkerer was trying to figure out a way to use Kerberos for SSH to openshift, but each gear in openshift is an autogenerated user account. Turns out that you can put a file in the homedir named .k5login that will map the kerberos principal to a user account. | 00:43 |
| ayoung | Not sure if it is something we could somehow leverage for Openstack, but interesting none-the-less | 00:43 |
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| jamielennox | as in you generate account-1234 and put jlennox@REALM into .k5login and it knows to use that principal? | 00:47 |
| ayoung | jamespage, yeah | 00:47 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yes | 00:47 |
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| ayoung | sorry to spam you jamespage | 00:47 |
| jamielennox | less useful i guess but nice to know | 00:48 |
| jamielennox | might help with automating the kinit | 00:48 |
| jamielennox | ... maybe | 00:48 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, well, it doesn't have to be from the same realm, which is cool. It might provide a way to map from Various users in various realms to a Keystone user, but, probably not. THe openshift folks were excited, though. | 00:49 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: you still here? | 02:20 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, barely | 02:43 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: ah i gave up | 02:43 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: i wanted you to have a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/authentication-tied-to-token | 02:43 |
| jamielennox | i put it into review mode | 02:43 |
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| jamielennox | i was thinking you might spot something obvious, but i don't mind it being public if you want to wait till tomorrow | 02:44 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, looks good to a first approximation. Would rather it be public and get the early input | 02:46 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: that was my thoughts | 02:46 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I don't want to mix in the methods with the REMOTE_USER stuff unless necessary, though | 02:47 |
| ayoung | I'd rather not have to explicitly state anything about kerberos if everything we need can be deduced from the fact that I did Kerberos in the first place | 02:48 |
| ayoung | But I like the explicit bind info | 02:48 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, Wouldn't that bind info also be deduciable from the web request, without any specific additional information on the token? | 02:49 |
| ayoung | So that could be specified in the config file, but not be required on the request itself? | 02:49 |
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| ayoung | So the config in your example should look more like: http://paste.openstack.org/show/38922/ | 02:52 |
| ayoung | But then the user could specify {bind : { 'principal': 'USER@REALM' } } for kerberos | 02:53 |
| jamielennox | i'm not following | 02:53 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, the methods are explicitly listed on the token request | 02:53 |
| ayoung | but the auth mechansim for External does not have to be | 02:53 |
| ayoung | instead, we state : if iti si external, call this handler | 02:54 |
| jamielennox | sure, but why wouldn't it be | 02:54 |
| jamielennox | this is the concern about whether you specify 'kerberos' as an auth_method? | 02:54 |
| ayoung | Yeah | 02:54 |
| ayoung | but also, it is not going to be that straight forward | 02:54 |
| ayoung | with Apache | 02:54 |
| ayoung | you need to specify the auth mechanism on a per suburl basis | 02:55 |
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| jamielennox | i guess it depends on how you read [auth] methods does that mean these methods are enabled or does it mean your auth_method must be one of the following | 02:55 |
| ayoung | So the same suburl won't be able to support both kerberos and X509, but we know at least one user has requested that both be supported side by side | 02:55 |
| jamielennox | i was reading it as these methods are enabled | 02:55 |
| jamielennox | i don't think that's relevant to this blueprint though | 02:56 |
| ayoung | Right, so lets keep the exteranl part separate | 02:56 |
| ayoung | methods "can" be used, but does no "need to " be used for external | 02:57 |
| jamielennox | to my mind that's mostly apache configuration and then the auth mechanism picks up from that | 02:57 |
| ayoung | methods = password,token,x509 is OK | 02:57 |
| ayoung | leave the external out of there | 02:57 |
| jamielennox | doesn't that imply a special case in the controller then that hands out to external if REMOTE_USER is present | 02:57 |
| ayoung | But the question is how to specify "from this URL, do Kerberos, from that one do client certs"? | 02:58 |
| ayoung | I was thinking: | 02:58 |
| ayoung | something like /auth/krb5 vs /auth/x509 | 02:58 |
| jamielennox | sure, and there is an external auth blueprint, but i think it can be successfully ignored for this | 02:58 |
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| jamielennox | i considered making it a dependancy but so long as you have the apache setup correct you can avoid it | 02:58 |
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| jamielennox | it's important but i think this mechanism can go in without it to make sure of h-2 | 02:59 |
| ayoung | So I think that instead of adding in external as a method, we make external a key in the config file that is used to figure out what external handler is used | 03:01 |
| ayoung | so in the controller, it REMOTE_USER is set, call the external handler | 03:01 |
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| jamielennox | either way external is going to be a launching point for a bunch of other external handlers | 03:02 |
| ayoung | then we can have two handlers, one for kerberos, one for X509 | 03:02 |
| jamielennox | so you call the external handler which looks at AUTH_TYPE and does one thing for Negotiate another for basic | 03:02 |
| jamielennox | etc | 03:02 |
| ayoung | Yep... | 03:03 |
| ayoung | what if we said "do it with no config file changes" and instead just hardcoded that logic? | 03:03 |
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| ayoung | Kindo like we now do with REMOTE_USER | 03:03 |
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| ayoung | It will tie people to our implementation, but, so what? Who is really going to write their own? | 03:04 |
| jamielennox | again it comes down to your interpretation of [auth] methods=password,token | 03:04 |
| jamielennox | to my mind that should mean that the only enabled auth mechanisms are password and token | 03:04 |
| jamielennox | but i guess that is already broken because we allow REMOTE_USER as well | 03:05 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, yep. we can always make it pluggable in a future release if put under duress | 03:05 |
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| ayoung | I'm starting to think "pluggable for pluggables sake" is a mistake | 03:06 |
| ayoung | RH is not going to support an joe-random-coders auth method plugin | 03:06 |
| jamielennox | lol, now in the midst of adding 3 more pluggable points? | 03:06 |
| ayoung | so if people want their code supported, then need to submit their code upstream | 03:06 |
| ayoung | And we don't want some company building some propriatary plugin | 03:07 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: why? | 03:07 |
| jamielennox | i'd look at it like the kernel, push it upstream if it makes sense but if you want to hold out of tree modules then go right ahead | 03:08 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, because we want them to work through us, the community, to make the whole product better. | 03:08 |
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| jamielennox | sure but i think that the incentive is there already to do that with and standard mod_auth_X | 03:08 |
| ayoung | The kernel has modules for device drivers, but not so much if you want to change how NFS is implemented | 03:08 |
| jamielennox | but i can imagine that there is plenty of weird and wonderful ways people are making auth work in their environment | 03:09 |
| ayoung | So the question is whether we really need modules for how REMOTE_USER is implemented, or if we just need to get it right | 03:09 |
| ayoung | We can still annotate in the token what auth mechanism was used to authenticate for MFA | 03:10 |
| ayoung | I think I am having a bout of it "Simplify simplify" bug | 03:10 |
| jamielennox | MFA is not an issue here | 03:10 |
| jamielennox | not an issue for binding, definetly an issue for auth mechanisms | 03:11 |
| ayoung | It is one of the driving reasons we have the whole "methods" thing in the first place | 03:11 |
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| ayoung | lets hard code the solution, post it for review, and see what people say. It should be less work than doing the pluggable. We can always add in pluggability afterwards if it is justified, but the more I think about it, the more I doubt that it will be | 03:12 |
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| ayoung | If we put the code into a separate Class, that looks like the plugins, adding in a config change should be straightforward | 03:13 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, make sense? | 03:14 |
| jamielennox | as i said though, i'm trying to avoid messing with that as much as possible and put this in before doing an auth refactor | 03:14 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so, the bind thing is something that is added to the token, but doesn't require a config file change, right? | 03:15 |
| ayoung | THat is really what this BP is trying to nail down? | 03:15 |
| jamielennox | it will still require the bind= | 03:15 |
| jamielennox | i don't think you want to assume that you should do that by default | 03:15 |
| ayoung | OK, lets limit the BP to just that | 03:16 |
| ayoung | put it under token, not auth, I think. | 03:16 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so if the bind value is specified, the token will be bound to that value, but I think, on the auth_token middleware side, we just need a boolean to enable bind checking | 03:18 |
| ayoung | that allows the keystone mechanism to do two different binds: one for kerberos and one for x509 without having to explicitly enable both on each service | 03:19 |
| jamielennox | have a look at that | 03:20 |
| ayoung | Actually, a 3 state value, not a boolean: bind_check = {never, allowed, always} | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | it doesn't reflect your most recent comment | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | thats what i've got just named { disabled, 'permissive', strict } | 03:20 |
| jamielennox | i can rename it though | 03:21 |
| ayoung | permissive is different from what I was thinking | 03:21 |
| ayoung | I was thinking "enforce if you send it, but let unbound tokens through" | 03:22 |
| ayoung | versus "all tokens must be bound" | 03:22 |
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| jamielennox | ah right, i considered that | 03:23 |
| ayoung | I think unknown bind types are always a failure | 03:23 |
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| jamielennox | but should that be a client option? | 03:23 |
| jamielennox | if keystone puts it in then it should always verify it | 03:23 |
| jamielennox | but all the client should be checking is if it is a valid token from keystone | 03:24 |
| jamielennox | not putting restrictions on the type of token | 03:24 |
| ayoung | its an integration strategy | 03:24 |
| ayoung | We can change the defaults over time | 03:24 |
| jamielennox | right but what is there allows for implementation over time as well | 03:25 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, 'disabled' really is just an escape mechanism | 03:25 |
| ayoung | OK...I concede | 03:25 |
| jamielennox | so keystone immediately starts adding bind information to tokens. Older clients will just ignore it or default to disabled | 03:26 |
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| ayoung | strict should still require bound tokens | 03:26 |
| jamielennox | winner! | 03:26 |
| ayoung | Do we allow unbound tokens in stage 2? | 03:27 |
| ayoung | permissive? | 03:27 |
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| jamielennox | yes, but i think you should look at it the other way around | 03:27 |
| jamielennox | so long as keystone is issuing tokens with bind information in them the clients don't have an option | 03:28 |
| ayoung | Sounds good | 03:28 |
| jamielennox | so you upgrade keystone first and then do the clients rather than the other way around | 03:28 |
| ayoung | How's this: - permissive: token bind checking is performmed. Unbound tokens and tokens with an unknown bind type is included then this bind type is skipped. | 03:29 |
| ayoung | Er..needs more grammar | 03:29 |
| jamielennox | sure | 03:29 |
| jamielennox | what i mean though is that there is no control over this from the client | 03:30 |
| jamielennox | if there is no bind data in the token then there is nothing that the client can do | 03:30 |
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| ayoung | yes, it can. It cahnchose a-priori "reject all unbound tokens or accept all unbound tokens" | 03:31 |
| jamielennox | so even under strict mode if there is no bind data it will be accepted | 03:31 |
| ayoung | No no no no no no no no no | 03:31 |
| ayoung | strict means tokens must be bound | 03:31 |
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| ayoung | strict is where we want this to end up | 03:31 |
| jamielennox | strict means tokens must assert that everything in the bind information must be verified | 03:31 |
| jamielennox | indeed | 03:31 |
| jamielennox | but say you turn the client instantly to strict mode, great still works with vanilla tokens | 03:32 |
| ayoung | If they run other than strict, we want to generate a log message "don't disable strict token bind checking, upon fear of prosecution" | 03:32 |
| jamielennox | so long as keystone is generating tokens with bind information they will be forced to accept it | 03:32 |
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| ayoung | OK, we don;t have to resolve this now. annotate the difference of opinion and we can discuss with the other devs | 03:33 |
| ayoung | I'm gonna crash | 03:33 |
| jamielennox | if this is what you want you should be disabling username/password and only authenticate against a bind enabled mechanism | 03:33 |
| jamielennox | alright | 03:34 |
| jamielennox | shall do, good night | 03:34 |
| ayoung | agreed. I can see where you are coming from: let Keystone drive the policy. The thing is, we might end up with multiple keystone servers in a federatd environment. I have an old blueprint for that and I haven't given up on implementing it | 03:34 |
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| ayoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/distributed-signing | 03:36 |
| jamielennox | this can still work, you just need to coordinate your keystones | 03:38 |
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| jamielennox | anyway, i'll put it all in an email to -dev asking for opinions | 03:38 |
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| ayoung | the y won't all be "your" keystones. Think of the keystone tokens like SAML documents | 03:38 |
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| ayoung | you don;t want a compromised keystone to start sending out unbound tokens. | 03:39 |
| ayoung | OK, gnight | 03:39 |
| jamielennox | in which case i don't think you can even generate the required information to do binding | 03:39 |
| jamielennox | don't worry, good night | 03:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-cinderclient: Implement scheduler hints for APIv2 https://review.openstack.org/28947 | 07:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Implement capability to extend existing volume. https://review.openstack.org/32466 | 07:54 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/33433 | 07:54 |
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| anfrolov | Hi guys. Could you please review following bug fix for quantum: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33091/ ? | 08:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Check libvirt version earlier https://review.openstack.org/32734 | 09:49 |
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| BobBall | I've got a logging issue - setting default_log_levels to ['ampqlib=WARN'] as per the example at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-logging.html fails because we use getLevelName at https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/log.py#L446 which returns "Level WARN" which is invalid for setLevel... But other comments (e.g. whoever tested https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bu | 10:20 |
| BobBall | g/1170049) suggest that it works for them... Any advice? | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Update the ou name of Group to be the new default of UserGroups https://review.openstack.org/33336 | 11:08 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: On unstack, cleanup LVM setup for Cinder https://review.openstack.org/30227 | 11:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Implement a new test case for volume cloning functionality https://review.openstack.org/33272 | 11:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/33635 | 13:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Allow use of lowercase section names in conf files https://review.openstack.org/33429 | 13:35 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Reference default_servicetype group in lowercase https://review.openstack.org/33432 | 13:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Use Python 3.x compatible except construct https://review.openstack.org/33505 | 14:03 |
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| garyk | markmc: thanks for updating https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33429/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33432/. i assume that we can now move forwards with the oslo db integration into quantum? | 14:07 |
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| markmc | garyk, yep, finally | 14:07 |
| garyk | markmc: great! thanks! | 14:08 |
| markmc | garyk, thanks for the patience :) | 14:08 |
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| anfrolov | Hi guys. Could you please review following bug fix for quantum: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33091/ ? | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fix TestNecAgentMain not to call sys.exit() https://review.openstack.org/33479 | 14:25 |
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| hughsaunders | hey, is there a channel for python-openstackclient? | 14:52 |
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| chmouel | I think most people are talking about it here | 14:57 |
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| hughsaunders | thanks chmouel | 15:02 |
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| hughsaunders | so has anyone else looked at swift support for openstackclient? | 15:03 |
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| wu_wenxiang | hello, any quantum developer could help to check this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1192381 | 15:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1192381 in quantum "dhcp dnsmasq lost port in host config file" [Undecided,New] | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Set default 'ou' name for LDAP projects to Projects https://review.openstack.org/33337 | 15:54 |
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| bknudson | mordred: anteaya: yesterday we were talking about keystone with tox instead of run_tests.sh... I tried it and it "worked for me" | 15:57 |
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| bknudson | only thing it complained about was py26 not being installed. | 15:57 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: tox -e py27 :) | 15:57 |
| dolphm | (assuming you don't need to run 26 tests every time) | 15:58 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: thanks for trying that, I get ERROR: py27: commands failed: https://gist.github.com/anteaya/294dc0b6b40721b68c1e#file-keystone_tox-txt-L1425 | 16:00 |
| anteaya | I wonder what is different about your environment and mine? | 16:00 |
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| anteaya | dolphm: I sent this output to ayoung last night in an email as he had requested | 16:01 |
| bknudson | I'll try again with tox -e py27. | 16:02 |
| dolphm | anteaya: i'm running out the door, ping me when i'm back on (~30 min) | 16:02 |
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| anteaya | dolphm: okay | 16:02 |
| anteaya | bknudson: I didn't use -e py27, but even if I did the results for py27 should be the same | 16:03 |
| JordanP | hi mlavalle : regarding the tempest Tests, i think it's better to work on the etherpad Alla created an hour ago (https://etherpad.openstack.org/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-quantum-full) so I'm going to delete the google doc. | 16:03 |
| anteaya | you can see my localrc included in the same gist, does yours have the same config? | 16:03 |
| bknudson | anteaya: is that the devstack localrc? I don't see how that would be involved in keystone unit tests. | 16:04 |
| anteaya | bknudson: it is involved in how keystone is installed | 16:05 |
| anteaya | for instance if it is using sqlite3 or SQL | 16:05 |
| anteaya | and I don't know if that would affect the unit tests | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | JoranP: Cool! Thanks | 16:05 |
| bknudson | the unit tests us their own config files. | 16:05 |
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| mlavalle | JordanP: Cool! Thanks. This way other people can chime in | 16:06 |
| anteaya | bknudson: ah okay, I did not know that, thank you | 16:06 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: also worked with tox -e py27. Ran 1363 tests in 497.115s -- OK (SKIP=80) | 16:07 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: any idea why mine have errors? | 16:07 |
| bknudson | anteaya: why is there no output from the failing tests? | 16:08 |
| anteaya | bknudson: what is your process for preparing your vm for devstack? | 16:08 |
| anteaya | bknudson: re output, I don't know, what you see is the output I got, piped into a file with &> | 16:09 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: and I actually don't see failing tests, I see errors | 16:09 |
| bknudson | anteaya: I set this up a few months ago... I just ran stack.sh and since then run stack.sh when I need to run stuff, otherwise I git pull. | 16:10 |
| anteaya | in the keystone_tox.txt file which is the output of /opt/stack/keystone && tox | 16:10 |
| anteaya | bknudson: how old is the keystone repo you are testing? | 16:10 |
| bknudson | anteaya: I just pulled it this morning. | 16:10 |
| anteaya | hmmmm | 16:10 |
| anteaya | I have set up devstack fresh twice in the last two days | 16:11 |
| anteaya | same output | 16:11 |
| bknudson | oops, I thought I had done the pull recently but I guess not. | 16:11 |
| anteaya | okay, no problem | 16:11 |
| bknudson | so maybe it's something that's broken recently. I'll run tox -e py27 again... | 16:11 |
| anteaya | sure | 16:11 |
| anteaya | and thanks | 16:11 |
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| mirrorbox | do quantum unit tests work for everybody on a fresh checkout? | 16:15 |
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| anteaya | mirrorbox: can you share a few additional details? are you talking about devstack? what command are you using to run your tests? | 16:16 |
| clarkb | mirrorbox: they were working for me yesterday. and yes more info would be helpful | 16:17 |
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| mirrorbox | i'm taking about 'tox -epy27' | 16:18 |
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| clarkb | mirrorbox: can you paste the output of tox -epy27 to paste.openstack.org or similar? | 16:19 |
| bknudson | anteaya: finally finished, successful again. | 16:20 |
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| mirrorbox | clarkb: ok, but it will take some time | 16:20 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: hmmm, okay thanks for doing that, I wonder what is different about your set-up and mine | 16:20 |
| mirrorbox | all my fails are somewhat related to working with config | 16:21 |
| anteaya | bknudson: any ideas based upon which tests are erroring out? | 16:21 |
| bknudson | anteaya: it would be nice to see what the actual error was that it ran into... maybe it doesn't get captured in the output. | 16:21 |
| bknudson | can you run without redirection? | 16:21 |
| clarkb | mirrorbox: but a clean checkout fails as well? | 16:21 |
| anteaya | bknudson: sure but how to get it in a paste for you to see? | 16:22 |
| bknudson | select it and then copy and paste. | 16:22 |
| anteaya | bknudson: the &> should give me stderr should it not | 16:22 |
| anteaya | bknudson: I lose much in the scroll back, but I can give you want I can get | 16:22 |
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| anteaya | s/want/what | 16:22 |
| mirrorbox | clarkb: yep... even forced venv recreation for tox. i'll upload results when it finishes | 16:23 |
| bknudson | anteaya: my first guess to why this failed is that the system ran out of disk space... | 16:23 |
| anteaya | bknudson: oh okay | 16:23 |
| anteaya | which is possible | 16:23 |
| anteaya | I am in a vagrant vm | 16:23 |
| anteaya | what are you using as a vm? | 16:24 |
| clarkb | mirrorbox: I am rerunning locally again to make sure that the 8 commits that I didn't have on master didn't change something | 16:24 |
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| bknudson | I've got a vm running ubuntu 12.04 | 16:24 |
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| mirrorbox | clarkb: yeah, well, I was afraid my commit with nec test fix broke something else :( | 16:25 |
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| mirrorbox | (it was merged just an hour ago or so) | 16:25 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: right but are you using kvm or vagrant or what is running the vm? | 16:26 |
| clarkb | mirrorbox: in theory that shouldn't happen with the gate. but some things do sneak by | 16:26 |
| anteaya | here is my df for my vagrant: https://gist.github.com/anteaya/294dc0b6b40721b68c1e#file-vagrant-vm-df-L1 | 16:26 |
| bknudson | anteaya: it's kvm. | 16:26 |
| anteaya | bknudson: do you remember how much disk space you gave it when you set it up? | 16:26 |
| anteaya | or can you paste the output of df? | 16:27 |
| bknudson | /dev/vda1 56G 16G 38G 30% / | 16:27 |
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| anteaya | so that is significantly more than mine | 16:28 |
| clarkb | mirrorbox: cool just got a fail. so it seems reproduceable | 16:28 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: let me try on kvm with a lot of space and see what happens | 16:28 |
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| clarkb | mirrorbox: its possible this is a inter test interaction which is how it got past jenkins. you can source the tox venv them do a `testr run --analyze-isolation` after a failed test run and testr will bisect the tests to try and find which tests are interferring with each other | 16:29 |
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| anteaya | so if it is actually a space issue, my followup question would be how much space is required, since I think that information might be helpful to folks when they set up their vm | 16:29 |
| anteaya | unless that information is already available and I have missed it somewhere | 16:29 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: so it appears that if I were to give it 18G that might be a reasonable place to begin, would you concur? | 16:31 |
| anteaya | bknudson: 64 bit or 32 bit? I would like to try to replicate your env first to see if I can get tests passing | 16:33 |
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| ayoung | anteaya, it looks like your tests started failing on test_v2_v3_uuid_token_intermix and never recovered. | 16:37 |
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| anteaya | ayoung: hey there | 16:37 |
| ayoung | File "/opt/stack/python-keystoneclient/tests/test_auth_token_middleware.py", line 1025, in test_memcache | 16:38 |
| ayoung | self.assertNotEqual(self._get_cached_token(token), None) | 16:38 |
| ayoung | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/unittest/case.py", line 520, in assertNotEqual | 16:38 |
| ayoung | raise self.failureException(msg) | 16:38 |
| ayoung | AssertionError: None == None | 16:38 |
| anteaya | okay, anything special about test_v2_v3_uuid_token_intermix? | 16:38 |
| ayoung | anteaya, I think there is something wonky in the Assertion line there | 16:38 |
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| ayoung | anteaya, nay, looks like something else kicked in | 16:38 |
| anteaya | I would agree with that assessment | 16:38 |
| ayoung | anteaya, can you reproduce this now, or is this an old run? | 16:38 |
| anteaya | bknudson is speculating it might be related to space | 16:38 |
| anteaya | ayoung: that was my last night | 16:39 |
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| ayoung | yep, that would make sense | 16:39 |
| anteaya | so I am creating a new vm on kvm with 18G of space | 16:39 |
| anteaya | to see if I can get tests passing | 16:39 |
| ayoung | anteaya, Cool. Ping me one way or another with the results | 16:39 |
| anteaya | I was using kvm with the default of 8G | 16:40 |
| anteaya | and a vagrant vm | 16:40 |
| anteaya | and tests were failing there | 16:40 |
| anteaya | ayoung: can do | 16:40 |
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| mirrorbox | clarkb: http://people.freebsd.org/~novel/misc/tox_quantum.txt | 16:48 |
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| clarkb | mirrorbox: that is what I got too and `testr run --analyize-isolation` says they fail when run individually | 16:50 |
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| clarkb | mirrorbox: that makes me think the they are dependent on some other test(s) running first which happened when jenkins ran the tests but isn't happening when we run them (because testr test partitioning can do that) | 16:51 |
| clarkb | mirrorbox: for debugging I would on getting `tox -epy27 test_load_plugin_with_deprecated_options` to pass | 16:51 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ^ we should perhaps try and add a thing to testr that runs all tests in isolation. I suppose you could iterate over the discovered test list | 16:53 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yes | 16:54 |
| anteaya | +1 | 16:54 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: 64-bit. | 16:55 |
| anteaya | bknudson: okay thanks, I went with 32 bit ubuntu 12.04 and 18G | 16:55 |
| anteaya | if I still hit a wall I will start again and go with 64 bit | 16:55 |
| bknudson | anteaya: another reason might be memory then | 16:56 |
| anteaya | how much memory have you given your vm? | 16:56 |
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| anteaya | I only have 4G total RAM on my box, so usually only give a vm 1G | 16:56 |
| mirrorbox | clarkb: yeah, i'm trying to debug, with no success so far :( | 16:58 |
| clarkb | mirrorbox: I have to run but should be able to take a look later today if it hasn't been sorted by then | 16:58 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, in general, I think a lot of people are interested in HTTPD deployment for Keystone so any question you have of me will be of wider interest | 17:05 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: ok, sounds good. I have been able to successsully get to http://adam.younglogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/keystone-ssl.png that part. Other than that I must be missing something when it comes to using the CLI to return anything. The peer doesn't recognize the CA. | 17:14 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, what is the client you are using? curl or the CLI? | 17:24 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: I've tried both, when I use the CLI (keystone user-list) the error_log for httpd returns with an SSL Library Error -12195 Peer does not recognize and trust the CA that issued your certificate. When I curl -k https://127.0.0.1:443/keystone/main I get a json formatted response, the same the renders in the browsers when I visit the URL. | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Use heat-manage to sync heat db. https://review.openstack.org/33574 | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Drop unused _virtual_power_settings global. https://review.openstack.org/33640 | 17:44 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-keystoneclient: Fix memcache encryption middleware https://review.openstack.org/33661 | 17:44 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: I'm going to try running with top and see what kind of memory usage I get. | 17:46 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: okay thanks | 17:46 |
| anteaya | you might be right, this might be a memory issue | 17:46 |
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| anteaya | still doing my first round of keystone tox with the kvm 18G vm | 17:47 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: memory usage does keep going up... | 17:49 |
| bknudson | 406m 278m 7608 R 24 7.0 1:51.68 nosetests | 17:49 |
| anteaya | hmmm | 17:50 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: my first round of /opt/stack/keystone && tox succeeded for py27, failed for pep8 due to dependency installation and py26 wasn't available | 17:52 |
| anteaya | going for another round | 17:52 |
| bknudson | 653m 525m 7608 D 28 13.3 2:43.18 nosetest | 17:52 |
| anteaya | going up | 17:53 |
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| anteaya | might this be a garbage collection issue? | 17:53 |
| bknudson | a resource leak of some sort. | 17:53 |
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| anteaya | hmmm | 17:53 |
| bknudson | I thought python was garbage collected. | 17:54 |
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| anteaya | I don't know enough to say yea or nay | 17:54 |
| anteaya | but something is taking up space | 17:54 |
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| bknudson | it got up to 806m res at the end. | 17:55 |
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| anteaya | hmmm | 17:55 |
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| bknudson | so if you've only got the 1G, that's 80% of your memory there. | 17:55 |
| anteaya | okay | 17:55 |
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| anteaya | well then yes, I can see that that might fail if I was doing other things, like skype or other work | 17:56 |
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| anteaya | I can't remember what I was doing during the test runs | 17:56 |
| anteaya | so, if it is a memory issue | 17:56 |
| anteaya | how do we work to finding a solution? | 17:56 |
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| rharwood | python is garbage collected | 17:57 |
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| anteaya | rharwood: thank you | 17:57 |
| anteaya | bknudson: is there a different memory usage with tox compared to just running nosetests? | 17:57 |
| bknudson | anteaya: good question... I'll run it. | 17:57 |
| anteaya | or were you running tox and top showed nosetests? | 17:57 |
| anteaya | okay thanks | 17:58 |
| david-lyle | just because it's garbage collected doesn't mean it can't have a resource leak | 17:58 |
| anteaya | right | 17:58 |
| anteaya | any opinions on why this showed up in keystone tests? | 17:58 |
| david-lyle | reference counts are hard to maintain with closures and other python constructs | 17:58 |
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| anteaya | not saying is isn't an issue with other tests, just that I noticed problems with keystone tests | 17:59 |
| anteaya | ah okay | 17:59 |
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| anteaya | is there any kind of tool that can be used to check reference counts for a code run? | 18:00 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, got a moment to talk domain-inherited roles? | 18:00 |
| bknudson | nosetests by itself doesn't work for me, ERROR: Failure: ImportError (No module named memcache) | 18:00 |
| bknudson | No module named webtest | 18:00 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, you need to add the CA cert to the list of CA certs that Curl recognizes, or tell curl to not do cert checks | 18:01 |
| bknudson | also, memory usage was still pretty high ... 524m 383m 6860 R 91 9.7 1:33.24 nosetests | 18:01 |
| bknudson | curl --insecure | 18:01 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yes, that | 18:01 |
| ayoung | bknudson, better to import the CA cert, though | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | bknudson: ayoung trying that now, thanks | 18:01 |
| ayoung | --cacert | 18:01 |
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| bknudson | are there any good memory profiling tools for python? | 18:03 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: so my second round of /opt/stack/keystone && tox tests got the same result: py27 passed, py26 isn't there, pep8 fails due to failed dependency download | 18:03 |
| anteaya | bknudson: yes that is a better phrasing of the question I was asking, thanks | 18:03 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: this is different than the problem in https://gist.github.com/anteaya/294dc0b6b40721b68c1e#file-keystone_tox-txt-L1425 ? | 18:04 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: I think that ayoung identified this test test_v2_v3_uuid_token_intermix as the moment when failures started and never came back | 18:05 |
| anteaya | which would be consistent with a memory leak issue, would it not? | 18:05 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: but that's not happening for you anymore? | 18:06 |
| anteaya | https://gist.github.com/anteaya/294dc0b6b40721b68c1e#file-keystone_tox-txt-L1335 | 18:06 |
| anteaya | bknudson: not currently, but if running tox in keystone takes up 80% of 1G of RAM on a vm, I am not doing much else right now | 18:06 |
| anteaya | I was about to fire up skype or something else that is more demanding on my RAM and try again | 18:07 |
| anteaya | do you think that is worthwhile? | 18:07 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: watch top while you run the tests and see if you run out of memory | 18:07 |
| anteaya | I was just doing reviews while waiting for the tests to finish, not very RAM demanding | 18:07 |
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| anteaya | trying to remember how to run a background process so I have my prompt back to run top | 18:08 |
| bknudson | anteaya: should be able to CTRL Z and then bg it | 18:09 |
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| anteaya | okay thanks, will try | 18:09 |
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| anteaya | my top has different output than what you pasted for some reason | 18:11 |
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| lbragstad | bknudson: ayoung using curl -k --insecure https://127.0.0.1:443/keystone/admin/v3 I can get a response back, I can't get a resource back though, say tenants or users if I tack that on to the URL | 18:18 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: can I email you the screen shots of my top? | 18:18 |
| anteaya | I have not be successful getting copy and paste working for kvm | 18:18 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: go ahead, blk@acm.org | 18:19 |
| anteaya | thanks | 18:19 |
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| ayoung | anteaya, is that consistent? Does it always fail at the same point? | 18:22 |
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| anteaya | ayoung: I haven't saved all the outputs of all the runs | 18:22 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, you are on track. I'd make sure the V2 stuff works first before tackling V3 | 18:22 |
| anteaya | so far on this kvm ubuntu 12.04 32 bit 18G install, the py27 tox in /opt/stack/keystone are passing | 18:23 |
| BHolz | Is anyone running devstack off a recent master? I'm trying to figure out if euca-describe-tags is broken for everyone or just me. | 18:23 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: ok, v2 doesn't resolve and "can't be found", still digging | 18:23 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: it works for main, but not admin | 18:24 |
| anteaya | after this round I can go back to my other 8GB kvm install ubuntu 12.04 (32bit, I think) and try again there | 18:24 |
| ayoung | v2.0 | 18:24 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, see the curl examples here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/api_curl_examples.html | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: cool, thanks | 18:25 |
| bknudson | lbragstad: you can run keystone without ssl if that makes it easier. | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | bknudson: I might try that, just to get it working | 18:25 |
| bknudson | lbragstad: are you running in ubuntu ? | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | CentOS | 18:25 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, sounds like he has his SSL issues sorted, just needs to get the URLs right | 18:30 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: I just took a look at top on my host: https://gist.github.com/anteaya/f066d1ceaa39b9b0202d | 18:36 |
| anteaya | libvirt is using 1g, if I interpret that correctly | 18:37 |
| anteaya | but the tests are still running in the vm | 18:37 |
| anteaya | oh sorry, yes, since I allocated 1G libvirt would use 1g to run | 18:37 |
| anteaya | d'oh | 18:37 |
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| mirrorbox | clarkb: I failed to debug the issue at this point, i'm going to sleep, but i think i'll continue tomorrow if it's not fixed overnight ;) | 18:44 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: tox was never running tests as i was watching tox, I must have run the bg job incorrectly | 18:53 |
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| anteaya | went with tmux | 19:01 |
| anteaya | there goes my memory now | 19:01 |
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| anteaya | nosetests was getting close to sucking up all my memory and then if finished | 19:05 |
| anteaya | I don't have numbers since as I was about to take a screen shot it finished | 19:05 |
| anteaya | but I can see how it might be an issue | 19:06 |
| anteaya | I can run again and try to capture some info | 19:06 |
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| bknudson | anteaya: I'm still looking into finding a good memory profiler for python... surprisingly non-obvious. | 19:39 |
| anteaya | bknudson: very good | 19:40 |
| anteaya | I am having multiple confusing failures on my 8GB KVM ubuntu 12.04 instance, just emailed you some screen shots | 19:40 |
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| anteaya | bknudson: it is memory | 19:49 |
| anteaya | I just got an out of memory output, I emailed you the screenshot | 19:49 |
| bknudson | anteaya: I think I got heapy working, so will find out if this is easy to fix or not. | 19:50 |
| anteaya | yay | 19:50 |
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| anteaya | I'll go look up heapy | 19:50 |
| anteaya | bknudson: let me know if there is something I can try | 19:50 |
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| TheDodd | Just about to finish with my first bug fix. What is "tox"? It is mentioned in the gerrit workflow doc, but no information seems to be provided about it. | 20:11 |
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| anteaya | tox is a command to run tests | 20:11 |
| TheDodd | is it run via git? | 20:11 |
| anteaya | it pulls in either testr or nosetests (whichever the project is using) and runs the tests | 20:12 |
| TheDodd | bash? | 20:12 |
| anteaya | no | 20:12 |
| anteaya | at the bash prompt execute `tox` | 20:12 |
| anteaya | you need it installed first though | 20:12 |
| anteaya | pip install tox | 20:12 |
| TheDodd | anteaya: thanks! I just needed to pointed in the right direction. | 20:12 |
| anteaya | np | 20:13 |
| anteaya | happy to help | 20:13 |
| anteaya | good testing to you, may they pass | 20:13 |
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| anteaya | TheDodd: I am actually working on this patch would create a file that explains this info: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33456/ | 20:13 |
| anteaya | you are welcome to comment, it would be helpful considering you are the target audience | 20:14 |
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| TheDodd | anteaya: I'll definitely take a look at it. Thanks. | 20:15 |
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| anteaya | thank you! | 20:16 |
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| souvik | like getting cinder work with devstack | 20:23 |
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| souvik | sorry wrong channel i guess, please ignore | 20:24 |
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| jaybuff1 | i'm trying to run tempest against my staging openstack environment. I'm using quantum (neutron?). the first failure i get is from the tempest.api.compute.admin.test_fixed_ips:FixedIPsTestJson.test_list_fixed_ip_details test | 21:07 |
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| jaybuff | since i have quantum_available = true in my tempest config i'm surprised that test is running. isn't that a nova network test? | 21:08 |
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| jaybuff | ah, i just found https://etherpad.openstack.org/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-quantum-full which i think describes the problems i am seeing | 21:15 |
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| dolphm | eglynn: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33719/ | 21:24 |
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| dolphm | eglynn: of course | 21:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Make TempURL more cache-efficient. https://review.openstack.org/33567 | 21:43 |
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| bnemec_ | Wow, so | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | bar = 'bar' | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | def foo(): | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | print 'foo', bar | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | foo() | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | Works fine. However, | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | bar = 'bar' | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | def foo(): | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | print 'foo', bar | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | bar += 'baz' | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | foo() | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | Throws an UnboundLocalError _on the print statement_ | 21:45 |
| bnemec_ | Consider my mind blown. | 21:45 |
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| notmyname | markwash: ping | 22:38 |
| markwash | notmyname: pong | 22:38 |
| notmyname | markwash: I had to leave the meeting yesterday right after the swift part, but I saw later (in my scrollback buffer) that you had a need for some ACL patch or something in Swift. what do you need? what can I do to help? | 22:39 |
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| markwash | notmyname: so we have this multi-tenant swift store feature in glance | 22:40 |
| markwash | notmyname: where images, rather than being stored in a single glance-specific swift account and container, are stored in a users swift account | 22:40 |
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| notmyname | markwash: ok, sounds good | 22:41 |
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| markwash | notmyname: when sharing images with another tenant, we need to set acls to allow access from another tenant | 22:41 |
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| notmyname | markwash: makes sense | 22:42 |
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| markwash | I think the original implementation of this implementation of this was based on reading the docs for swift which indicated you could use X-Store-Acls: <tenant-id> or something like that | 22:42 |
| markwash | well, I double "implementation"'d that | 22:42 |
| markwash | but, when I actually tried it out, I hit this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1155389 | 22:43 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1155389 in swift "Multi-tenant swift store image sharing doesn't work" [Undecided,In progress] | 22:43 |
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| markwash | I think there is a change in progress already to add that type of acl to swift | 22:43 |
| markwash | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22820/ | 22:44 |
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| notmyname | markwash: ok, looking | 22:45 |
| markwash | so once that lands, we can change glance to use "<tenant-id>:*" to make things work properly | 22:45 |
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| markwash | notmyname: I just want to give you some context on that review request, I guess | 22:45 |
| markwash | notmyname: thanks! | 22:45 |
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| notmyname | markwash: besides "just merge it already", anything you need me to do? :-) | 22:46 |
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| markwash | notmyname: lol I think that might be it | 22:46 |
| notmyname | heh ok | 22:46 |
| notmyname | markwash: also, what's your timeframe requirement on this? in havana or "yesterday"? | 22:47 |
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| markwash | notmyname: havana | 22:47 |
| notmyname | markwash: I see you have it marked as critical | 22:47 |
| notmyname | markwash: ok | 22:47 |
| markwash | its not really h2 critical | 22:48 |
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| markwash | but would be good to get in earlier to reduce overall risk | 22:48 |
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| notmyname | markwash: of course. we've got a patch proposed now, and it looks like it's received feedback. it's probably pretty close, but our current focus is getting 1.9 ready ASAP. I think it's more likely to be merged next week than this week | 22:50 |
| notmyname | markwash: have you tried the proposed patch to see that it fixes your issue? | 22:50 |
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| markwash | notmyname: cool | 22:51 |
| markwash | notmyname: I have not, but I could | 22:51 |
| markwash | notmyname: what kind of release timeframe do you have in mind? | 22:51 |
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| markwash | as in, merged next week, but released in 1.10? | 22:52 |
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| notmyname | markwash: it would be nice to have your feedback on the patch. you'll have better insight that most of the swift contributors (most of us don't normally use keystone/glance in our day-to-day) | 22:53 |
| notmyname | markwash: ya. released in 1.10 (or whatever comes after 1.9.0) | 22:53 |
| markwash | notmyname: for sure. . adding it to the todo list | 22:53 |
| notmyname | markwash: thanks | 22:53 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: you on? | 23:10 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, yes, although a bit on and off right now, getting kids to bed | 23:34 |
| henrynash | ayoung: understand! | 23:35 |
| henrynash | ayoung: did you see the various follow up emails and comments on inherited roles? | 23:35 |
| ayoung | henrynash, yes, and I want to say I am not hard and fast against it, just want to make sure we get the right abstraction | 23:35 |
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| ayoung | I see you use case, and just think it is very specific | 23:36 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so I'm all for that | 23:36 |
| ayoung | henrynash, have you done any coding yet, or are you just focused on getting the API right? | 23:36 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: as well as the easier one, of allowing an admin within a domain to make assignment to all projects | 23:36 |
| ayoung | BTW. I am not sure that the inherited roles could realistically be done in an extension. | 23:37 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: no, I'm just starting to code the GET /role-assignment one…which is core | 23:37 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, so that is really a permissions question, not a role assignments question. | 23:37 |
| henrynash | ayoung: because? | 23:37 |
| henrynash | ayoung: well there are two bps | 23:37 |
| henrynash | (three actually) | 23:37 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I'm trying to get my code up as a WIP so you cansee what it will effect. | 23:37 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: there is GET /role-assignmnets (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32394/) | 23:38 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I suspect we can do what you need within the existing abstractions | 23:38 |
| savid | Is there a reason that the keystoneclient v2 API does not support updating endpoints? | 23:38 |
| ayoung | henrynash, what you really want is to change the permissions associated with domain level roles | 23:38 |
| ayoung | that is a policy change | 23:39 |
| henrynash | ayoung: there is the inheritance extension: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29781/ | 23:39 |
| ayoung | as far as thge "manage my vms for me" we can do that with trusts | 23:39 |
| henrynash | ayoung: and there is enabling the policy engine to use target objects in its protection: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/policy-on-api-target | 23:39 |
| ayoung | henrynash, yes, it is the inheritance one that I think is attacking things at the wrong level. I think the policy one (as best as I've groked it) is the right use of the mechanism | 23:40 |
| ayoung | In fact, I think the policy one is essential. I was talking with other people about it at the Summit. Lets focus on that. I think the inherited roles is better served by tuning policy, but I can even be pursuaded on that one. | 23:41 |
| henrynash | ayoung: but that is only half the problem….how is it that when I (someone in another domain, e.g. an admin) get a specific role in the project scoped token I get for a project I need to manipulate | 23:41 |
| ayoung | henrynash, you don't | 23:41 |
| ayoung | henrynash, it is not a role that you need | 23:41 |
| ayoung | it is a permission | 23:41 |
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| ayoung | and that van be done by increasing the scope of the policy | 23:42 |
| henrynash | ayoung: sceptical... | 23:42 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, what you are areally saying is: how can I get the rest of OpenStack to update their policy | 23:42 |
| ayoung | but we server out the policy. | 23:42 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: (a blob to date, of course) | 23:43 |
| ayoung | henrynash, so, we want to make it clear that any API that requires tenant admin should also allow in someone with a domain admin role. | 23:43 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: or some other set of roles that are specific to the customers use case | 23:44 |
| ayoung | henrynash right. So custom policy is the solution, not changing the role assignments. | 23:44 |
| ayoung | henrynash, howver, I will agree with you that we want a more flexible role assignment mechanism | 23:44 |
| bknudson | other servers probably aren't using the v3 fields and so don't have the domain in the context. | 23:44 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I have to admit, I don't really see why we wouldn't use the mechanism we have today for affecting permission, that of ensuring you get the role you need | 23:45 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, so what I would like to see is some thing that says: users in this group get roleX on this set of projects | 23:45 |
| ayoung | with "this set" = domain being too limiting | 23:45 |
| ayoung | henrynash, have to disappear for a few...back in a bit. | 23:46 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: ok | 23:46 |
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