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| ayoung | jeblair, I thin that has been a source of some confusion. We probably should have gone with v3.0 from the get go for consistency sake. | 00:22 |
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| jeblair | ayoung: ok. but we went with "v3"? i'm not judging, just want to ensure accuracy. :) | 00:24 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, really suggest that you start doing work on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33745/ | 00:25 |
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| ayoung | jeblair, yeah, although I think we are working a v3.0 in there as well | 00:25 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: yeah…gonna let that merge then rebase on master….I'm a chicken when it comes to rebasing on people's patches…I always get myself in a mess | 00:28 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, it is not that hard. What I would do is this: get my code and then cherry pick your patch on top of it. It will complain about the errors. Move the roles based functions from keystone/identity to keystone/assignment and put a proxy function into keystone/identity/core.py Manager | 00:56 |
| ayoung | henrynash, and you probably want to do that on top of my second patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34967/ just to make sure you don;t have any rebase/merge issues later on | 00:57 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, if you do that, and then submit, I your will get outdated when I submit new patches, but you should be able to just push the "rebase" button to keep them in sync | 01:02 |
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| gyee | henrynash, I always take a snapshot of my dev vm before rebase, in case sheep happens :) | 01:08 |
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| ayoung | gyee, If a patch has been submitted for review, you don't even need to keep it in your local git repo, you can always fetch and branch to it. Why would you need to snapshot a vm? | 01:23 |
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| gyee | ayoung, I've been through a few git rebase hells before, quickest way is to get out of it is revert a snapshot | 01:32 |
| gyee | but yeah, clone and refetch would do I suppose | 01:32 |
| ayoung | rebase --abort | 01:38 |
| ayoung | always keep a branch to the pre-rebased codce, too | 01:38 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: how close to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone/Trusts is the real thing? | 02:12 |
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| jamielennox | badly worded, because i know the answer already | 02:12 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: Should that page be updated to match what actually happens or are we moving towards that api | 02:12 |
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| ttx | ayoung: yeah, in all cases we'd avoid having keystone and security on the same day. Which was the original plan for the Havana summit, but days were switched later | 07:12 |
| obondarev | cyeoh: ping | 07:12 |
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| zyluo | yaguang, do you have experience with cells? | 07:25 |
| yaguang | zyluo,yes | 07:25 |
| yaguang | zyluo, I have tested it before | 07:26 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Divide dhcp and l3 agent scheduling into separate extensions https://review.openstack.org/35266 | 07:26 |
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| alexxu | mikal, Could you help me approve this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33970/ when you have time. This patch just rebase after approved. | 07:29 |
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| mikal | alexxu: jenkins is angry on that one, I have requested a recheck | 07:38 |
| alexxu | mikal, thanks! | 07:38 |
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| rahmu | Am I supposed to continue to install each one of these by hand? or am I missing something? | 13:44 |
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| jgriffith | markmc: ping | 14:43 |
| jgriffith | markmc: re: cinder blueprint db-cleanup | 14:43 |
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| jgriffith | markmc: seems there's actually a wider debate here isn't there? | 14:44 |
| jgriffith | markmc: ie, not just Cinder | 14:44 |
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| markmc | jgriffith, yeah, see the thread on openstack-dev | 14:54 |
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| markmc | jgriffith, it's ndipanov and dripton__ who have concerns about other projects adopting nova's current approach | 14:54 |
| markmc | jgriffith, I really have no opinion yet | 14:54 |
| jgriffith | markmc: right.. just wanted to clarify I didn't miss something else as your whiteboard update called out cinder specifically | 14:54 |
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| jgriffith | markmc: agree | 14:54 |
| jgriffith | markmc: just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something specific in the thread :) | 14:55 |
| markmc | jgriffith, just that you guys need to be aware of the concerns before adopting the approach | 14:55 |
| jgriffith | markmc: understood | 14:55 |
| markmc | jgriffith, if you're cool with it, I'm cool with the code coming in through oslo-incubator | 14:55 |
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| jgriffith | markmc: I'm not convinced yet but willing to see how it comes together TBH | 14:55 |
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| jgriffith | markmc: regardless I think there will be some really good DB improvements along the way | 14:56 |
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| markmc | jgriffith, nod | 14:56 |
| btorch | anyone here work on keystone ? | 14:57 |
| jgriffith | markmc: k... thanks | 14:57 |
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| dolphm | btorch: o/ | 14:57 |
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| btorch | so I noticed a couple months back on keystone (python-keystone 2013.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0) that it was giving a new token back on every auth request even if it's the same tenant/user account | 14:58 |
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| btorch | which shouldn't happen since the previous token hasn't expired.. today I noticed that the keystone.db is 24G and seems like the token table is the culprid and is probably storing a huge amount of data... it's still running a count() | 15:00 |
| dolphm | btorch: that's how the api is designed; check the mailing list for a bunch of relevant discussions, and checkout keystone-manage token_flush | 15:00 |
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| dolphm | btorch: as of grizzly, you're probably seeing the effect of PKI tokens inflated size vs UUID, rather than an actual change in behavior | 15:02 |
| btorch | no | 15:02 |
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| btorch | I'm using UUID | 15:02 |
| dolphm | btorch: then i definitely wouldn't recommend switching to PKI immediately :P | 15:03 |
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| btorch | dolphm: ok question is this something new ? and if not how come it doesn't have some sort of cleanup job to handle that ? I may have missed but never saw anything about having to do token flush | 15:06 |
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| dolphm | btorch: that's what token flush_is | 15:07 |
| dolphm | token_flush is* | 15:07 |
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| dolphm | btorch: it's new in grizzly to provide a solution to this exact issue; keystone has never destroyed tokens due to concerns for destroying potential audit data | 15:07 |
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| btorch | I don't see token_flush as an available command either | 15:09 |
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| btorch | keystone-manage --version 2013.1 | 15:09 |
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| btorch | wow token table count 23 394 164 | 15:10 |
| dolphm | btorch: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/39820/ | 15:10 |
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| btorch | yeah not on mine | 15:10 |
| dolphm | btorch: bah, that might have merged just after grizzly's release | 15:11 |
| btorch | let me see if ubuntu has any updates | 15:11 |
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| btorch | ok maybe it could be here 2013.1.2-0ubuntu2~cloud0 | 15:12 |
| btorch | need to check | 15:12 |
| dolphm | btorch: if you're using sql for your token driver, it doesn't do much more than: delete * from token where expired < [yesterday by default]; | 15:12 |
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| dolphm | nevermind the stray asterisk in there lol | 15:12 |
| btorch | cool | 15:13 |
| dolphm | btorch: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/b556d8a6cad15b7dea0318c6164b10529969807d/keystone/token/backends/sql.py#L164 | 15:13 |
| btorch | it sucks though cause unless I vacuum this table there is no way I'm getting this space back | 15:14 |
| dolphm | btorch: yeah :( | 15:14 |
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| btorch | need to get a cron done for this :) | 15:15 |
| btorch | dolphm: thanks for the info | 15:15 |
| dolphm | btorch: if you switch to pki, you'd at least have far fewer reads to that table, but each row would take considerably more space | 15:15 |
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| dolphm | btorch: also, be aware of https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1188378 | 15:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1188378 in keystone "keystone.token.backends.sql uses a single delete command to flush expired tokens causing replication lag and potential deadlocks" [Medium,In progress] | 15:16 |
| dolphm | btorch: there's a mailing list discussion regarding how to address that bug as well | 15:16 |
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| btorch | thanks, yeah I was thinking about just shutting down keystone and re-create the table | 15:17 |
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| btorch | a delete on this table will take to long and will for sure cause deadlocks | 15:17 |
| dolphm | btorch: wouldn't be a bad idea; that's not far off from the approach used for the memcache backend (just restart it!) | 15:18 |
| GheRivero | flaper87: ping | 15:18 |
| flaper87 | GheRivero: pong | 15:19 |
| btorch | seems to be a very simple table | 15:19 |
| dolphm | btorch: you reclaim the memory that way, correct? | 15:19 |
| dolphm | s/memory/disk space/ | 15:19 |
| btorch | on this keystone box ? | 15:20 |
| GheRivero | hi flaper87! regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33327/ what you mean by 'make the app call a register_configs function?' Thanks for the review btw | 15:20 |
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| dolphm | btorch: from the sql database | 15:20 |
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| jog0 | dolphm: can you take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34650/ | 15:22 |
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| jog0 | with regard to your -2 | 15:23 |
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| Guest39539 | SpamapS, are you in Poland? | 15:23 |
| flaper87 | GheRivero: I meant something like http://paste.openstack.org/show/39821/ | 15:23 |
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| med_ | SpamapS, are you in Poland? | 15:24 |
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| SpamapS | med_: no :) | 15:24 |
| SpamapS | med_: G+ FTW | 15:24 |
| med_ | gotcha. | 15:24 |
| SpamapS | med must be reading the updates on openstack meetups :) | 15:24 |
| btorch | dolphm: the mem usage is very low and sqlite cache size as well.. I think this problem happened because when the user started using swift he didn't realize he only needed to re-auth once the token expired | 15:25 |
| GheRivero | flaper87: ah! ok. lovely. Thx again | 15:25 |
| med_ | SpamapS, was grabbing some links and saw planet.openstack.org for the first time. | 15:25 |
| med_ | ... and read it | 15:25 |
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| dolphm | btorch: a lot (most?) of the clients are bad about repeatedly generating tokens instead of reusing them | 15:25 |
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| btorch | dolphm: so for a couple of days he was doing over 1000 req/s per second and everyone was getting a new token | 15:26 |
| flaper87 | GheRivero: thank you for taking care of that! | 15:26 |
| topol | jog0, why do you want to push the kvs token out the door? what harm is it causing having a simple implementation as part of the code base? | 15:26 |
| btorch | it killed keystone as well that's how I noticed what he was doing :) | 15:26 |
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| jog0 | topol: short answer is because it doesn't work | 15:27 |
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| topol | jog0, so its the maintenance cost? | 15:28 |
| jog0 | topol: see the two bugs in the patch | 15:28 |
| SpamapS | topol: it is _awful_ | 15:29 |
| topol | I agree its certainly not meant for production and should not be the default | 15:30 |
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| jog0 | topol: for testing requiring sqlite seems reasonable. also removing it means less code to maintain | 15:31 |
| SpamapS | topol: it is not meant for anything. | 15:31 |
| SpamapS | right, tests are better off poking the sql backend with sqlite memory db than some fictional never used backend. | 15:32 |
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| annegentle | anyone else having trouble runing devstack today? Keystone wont start... and uh ... where do I get the logs? | 15:56 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: just +2'd you latest merged version -thx | 17:02 |
| henrynash | dolphm, gyee: can one of you push through the re-merged version of young's patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33745/ | 17:03 |
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| henrynash | gyee: as far as I can see, yes | 17:07 |
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| hk_peter | is it possible to find some little funding to support my openstack project? any introduce? | 17:14 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I was really mad about that until I realized I was the one that approved your change. Sorry if your ears were burning. | 17:16 |
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| ayoung | gyee, henrynash so the changes were basically a manual rebase. I had to move the code from identity to assignment. In doing so, It triggered the need to move some of the functions from the driver up to the manager, where they belonged anyway. | 17:17 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: ok, np. I think it was actually important to merge my fix ahead anyway - since we want to back port it to grizzly…which would have been harder if it was rebased on the split | 17:19 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: I'm going to re-base all my other changes on master once your split patch merges | 17:20 |
| henrynash | ayoung: which additional functions dis you move up? | 17:21 |
| henrynash | young; (to the manager) | 17:21 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: ahh, I see you moved the two "get_roles_for_user_project/domain"….hmm, my next patch will probably move them back into the driver layer, since I have hidden all the metadata in the driver (see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35897/) which those functions need to access…but no big deal | 17:25 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, so the general rule is supposed to be that drivers do not handle the common functionality | 17:29 |
| ayoung | see tests/test_drivers.py | 17:30 |
| henrynash | ayoung: oh, ok…..I guess it's OK for the managers to call "private" functions in the backends….it will need to call functions that we do not want the controllers to know about | 17:30 |
| henrynash | ayoung: actually I wasn't ware of that rule…I thought we used the managers to do common pre/post processing | 17:32 |
| henrynash | ayoung: just goes to show…:-) | 17:32 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I learned when I tripped over that unit test during this work. I was the worst offender prior to this | 17:33 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: ok. np…I can still make that work…. | 17:33 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: btw, separate subject…got a weird one for you….I'm adding the next sql migration (027)…this si for the os-inherit extension. In that new file…all is fine unless I try and load the last table you manipulated in 026 ('group_project_metadata')….as soon as I do a sql.table('group_project_metadata', meta, autoload=True) on it, sqlalchemy barfs…saying it can't load the 'tenant' table in relecttable (!) | 17:36 |
| henrynash | ayoung: sqllite | 17:37 |
| henrynash | ayoung: actually, that's weird, since if it sqlite, you don't touch it in 026 | 17:38 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: back in a bit | 17:40 |
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| dolphm | gyee: stab me directly when you have a new review up, otherwise i won't notice because i use next-review pretty much exclusively, which ignores things i've already -2'd | 19:00 |
| ayoung | nachi__, on top of dolphm 's comments, please make sure you run the migrations against postgresql and mysql | 19:00 |
| gyee | dolphm, sure | 19:00 |
| dolphm | ayoung: write a gate test to do that for us | 19:00 |
| ayoung | dolphm, "next-review?" | 19:00 |
| dolphm | ayoung: pip install next-review | 19:00 |
| gyee | next-reveiw is pretty helpful | 19:00 |
| gyee | I am using it too | 19:00 |
| dolphm | ayoung: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/next-review/ | 19:00 |
| gyee | ayoung, help you decide on the important reviews first | 19:01 |
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| gyee | -2s are last in the packing order | 19:01 |
| dolphm | ayoung: rofl | 19:01 |
| nachi__ | ayoung: i will test against postgresql and mysql | 19:02 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, a couple testing things: | 19:02 |
| dolphm | bknudson: i still need to address that bug you hit with password-protected ssh keys though | 19:02 |
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| ayoung | 1. for the gate job, we need a database allocated. | 19:03 |
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| ayoung | 2. the multipl clients thing is getting in the way of moving common code to python-keystoneclient | 19:03 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: gyee: do you have enough scrollback on #openstack-meeting to see if meetbot responded to our #startmeeting ? | 19:04 |
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| dolphm | jeblair: ah, #start-meeting instead of #startmeeting? | 19:04 |
| jeblair | dolphm: yep | 19:05 |
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| gyee | dolphm, doesn't seem like it | 19:07 |
| ayoung | dolphm, nope it didn't | 19:07 |
| dolphm | jeblair: gyee: ayoung: bah, i didn't even notice | 19:08 |
| ayoung | lets have the whole meeting again! | 19:08 |
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| gyee | dolphm, ayoung, this is all I can recover from the buffer, http://paste.openstack.org/show/39840/ | 19:11 |
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| ayoung | gyee, dolphm sent you the log in email | 19:14 |
| dolphm | gyee: ayoung: thanks (paste.openstack.org isn't loading for me..) | 19:14 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, lost the first couple lines as the next meeting was starting | 19:14 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting/%23openstack-meeting.2013-07-09.log | 19:15 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: is this ready for review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34967/ | 19:25 |
| dolphm | i feel like you said it needed to be rebased or something | 19:25 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, yes it is | 19:31 |
| ayoung | dolphm, all done | 19:31 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: and that completes the bp, too? | 19:34 |
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| topol | fabio, gyee, did the design issue for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34478/ get resolved? Can I go ahead and review or do I need to wait? | 19:50 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, yes, that completes the bp | 19:59 |
| dolphm | topol: pretty much all of my issues in the previous revew remain unresolved | 19:59 |
| enikanorov | nati_ueno: amotoki: salv-orlando: replied to email thread | 19:59 |
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| dolphm | topol: worth a review though, especially if you have an option on the catalog itself | 19:59 |
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| salv-orlando | enikanorov: ok thanks | 19:59 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1191152 in python-keystoneclient "v3 endpoint manager include 'name' attribute" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191152 | 20:25 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, so, for future work, we can support multiple LDAP servers. It will require an extension to the configuration code to be able to configure and distinguish between each of the LDAP servers. | 20:32 |
| henrynash | ayoung: yep, agreed | 20:33 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, do you want to take on that work? | 20:38 |
| henrynash | ayoung: yes, happy to | 20:39 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I'm happy to hand it over to you. | 20:39 |
| henrynash | ayoung :-) | 20:39 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, we don't have a blueprint for that yet, do we? | 20:41 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: it was buried in a larger one of mine…I'll break t out | 20:41 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/36328 | 20:42 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/multiple-ldap-servers | 20:44 |
| ayoung | you can make your larger one depend on that | 20:44 |
| henrynash | auoung: great, thx | 20:44 |
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| ameade_ | can someone tell me real fast if keystone returns 404 for expired tokens or if it is supposed to return the token info? | 20:59 |
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| dolphm | ameade_: 404 | 21:00 |
| ameade_ | dolphm: thanks | 21:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Implementation of a Heat stacks UI. https://review.openstack.org/29478 | 21:03 |
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| gyee | dolphm, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34478 | 21:11 |
| gyee | I understand we have two issues, 1) opt out of catalog during token auth, and 2) fix the catalog format in the new GET catalog API | 21:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Fixed test - segmented upload of file https://review.openstack.org/31284 | 21:12 |
| gyee | can we separate out the two? | 21:12 |
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| dolphm | gyee: yes and yes | 21:14 |
| dolphm | and yes | 21:14 |
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| dolphm | gyee: catalog-optional can be as simple as ?nocatalog and make GET /catalog out of scope? | 21:15 |
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| dolphm | gyee: GET /catalog doesn't touch core itself, so it'd be easy to make that an extension, although i'd *really* like to have it in core | 21:16 |
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| gyee | dolphm, sound good, because the catalog format and indexing will need more discussion | 21:19 |
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| gyee | I am all for making it easily searchable | 21:20 |
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| dolphm | gyee: do you have a use case for excluding the catalog without having a way to explicitly retrieve a catalog? | 21:20 |
| dolphm | gyee: i think everyone is, but no one has put forth a real "here's what it should look like" | 21:20 |
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| gyee | dolplm, I don't have a use case with a catalog, I was thinking retrieve it once and cache it somewhere | 21:22 |
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| gyee | without a catalog I meant | 21:22 |
| gyee | dolphm, I feel like the scope is expending and may include jaypipes use case, which is to look up by region for example | 21:24 |
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| gyee | something like GET /catalog?filter_by=region,order_by=region,service,interface | 21:25 |
| gyee | something like that | 21:25 |
| dolphm | gyee: order by? lol | 21:28 |
| gyee | dolphm, like how do we index the catalog | 21:29 |
| dolphm | gyee: query strings certainly be useful though, starting as simple as GET /v3/catalog?region=north | 21:29 |
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| gyee | dolphm, lemme create an etherpad for this and capture the notes there | 21:30 |
| dolphm | gyee: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/39855/ | 21:32 |
| dolphm | gyee: this breaks for use cases that we're potentially supporting today | 21:32 |
| dolphm | gyee: like multiple services of the same type in the same region | 21:32 |
| gyee | do we have multiple services of the same type? | 21:33 |
| dolphm | gyee: i'm just saying the current catalog supports that use case, is all | 21:34 |
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| bnemec | mrodden: Has https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1162047 not been fixed yet? | 21:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1162047 in oslo "lockutils.synchronized does not work properly if lock_path=none" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:35 |
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| fabio | dolphm: hi. I think there is an ongoing discussion with gyee regarding the catalog format and opt-out | 21:37 |
| mrodden | bnemec: i guess not... | 21:38 |
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| fabio | dolphm: can I complete the opt-out without changes to the catalog for m2? | 21:38 |
| dolphm | fabio: absolutely | 21:39 |
| gyee | dolphm, https://etherpad.openstack.org/new-catalog-format | 21:39 |
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| dolphm | fabio: if the question is "can i reduce scope" the answer is auto-yes | 21:39 |
| fabio | dolphm: I am glad to start a bp to change the catalog format, but I believe from a time and concern point of view these are separate things ... | 21:39 |
| bnemec | mrodden: Okay, I thought someone had looked into it, but maybe not. Either way, I went ahead and confirmed it since I've been told it's a legit bug by multiple people. :-) | 21:39 |
| dolphm | fabio: agree | 21:39 |
| gyee | combination of service type and name would make the index unique right? | 21:39 |
| fabio | dolphm: thanks, I will go ahead and finish the work. | 21:40 |
| fabio | dolphm: regarding the query param | 21:40 |
| fabio | there were discussion meanwhile you were in vacation that query params in POST messages weren't very RESTful | 21:41 |
| mrodden | bnemec: not its not fixed, lockutils will still use a temporary directory for its locks... :( | 21:41 |
| mrodden | if lock_path isn't set | 21:41 |
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| mrodden | https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/lockutils.py#L210 | 21:41 |
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| bnemec | mrodden: Well, that's not cool. Is the problem that we don't know how to fix it properly or just that nobody has had time? | 21:42 |
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| bnemec | (cuz I am about to have lots of time on my hands ;-) | 21:42 |
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| mrodden | tbh i think its an easy fix | 21:42 |
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| mrodden | just figure out a sane default instead of making one up everytime | 21:42 |
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| bnemec | mrodden: Okay, I'll think about it. Could be an issue making it platform-agnostic - we can't just set it to /tmp/lock or something (I think). | 21:46 |
| mrodden | yeah | 21:46 |
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| mrodden | probably would work for Unix-y systems | 21:46 |
| mrodden | you can pull the temp dir out of environment variables on windows though | 21:47 |
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| dolphm | fabio: i'm not familiar with how that's not "restful" .. it's http-compliant as far as i know. any details? | 21:48 |
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| gyee | dolphm, there isn't appear to be a definite answer on this one. The general guideline is that for http POST, you want to encode the parameters in the request body | 21:49 |
| dolphm | gyee: http spec doesn't care | 21:49 |
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| dolphm | gyee: web browsers conventionally only use the request body, but that's not an argument against using both | 21:50 |
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| dolphm | gyee: check out the last paragraph of the top answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/611906/http-post-with-url-query-parameters-good-idea-or-not | 21:52 |
| gyee | dolphm, I am looking at the same thing :) | 21:53 |
| dolphm | gyee: the examples are awful though :( | 21:53 |
| gyee | still reading | 21:53 |
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| fabio | dolphm: if the POST request would avoid to pass a body because the data is small I would agree | 21:56 |
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| fabio | but we already pass data in the body so it makes it more consistent to add a parameter there instead of having a payload and a query | 21:56 |
| fabio | dolphm: this would be a good example of simple data to post: POST /map/route/45/waypoints?lat=35&long=74 | 21:57 |
| dolphm | fabio: "because the data is small" is vague and subjective | 21:57 |
| fabio | dolphm: no it is because we already pass data in the body | 21:57 |
| fabio | so we avoid to mix the techniques | 21:58 |
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| dolphm | fabio: you're still avoiding something without having a reason to avoid it | 21:58 |
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| gyee | dolphm, the spec doesn't say one must not have query parameters in http POST, seems like its a matter of preference | 22:01 |
| gyee | vague and subjective as you mentioned | 22:01 |
| dolphm | gyee: agree, it's just convention that we only use the body | 22:01 |
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| dolphm | gyee: one that was started by web browsers | 22:01 |
| gyee | I am fine with either query parameter or body | 22:01 |
| dolphm | but we're not building a web browser | 22:01 |
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| dolphm | (also worth pointing out that web browsers are totally capable of doing both if you specify query params in a <form action=""> | 22:02 |
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| russellb | markmcclain: ping me when you think your nova quantum->neutron patch is ready to go | 22:02 |
| russellb | markmcclain: and i'll make sure we get it reviewed quickly | 22:02 |
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| markmcclain | russellb: will do.. thanks | 22:03 |
| fabio | dolphm: I would prefer it in the body. In the future we can add things like filtering the catalog back and not just opt out | 22:03 |
| fabio | for instance ask for all the endpoints in regionA or admin, etc... | 22:04 |
| dolphm | fabio: i'm happy to change my mind if you can provide a convincing argument with actual concrete reasoning for your vague and subjective personal preference | 22:05 |
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| fabio | dolphm: this is not my personal preference, it is a convention and even if we can depart from it, I believe it will make our API easier to grasp for users if they follow an established convention | 22:13 |
| gyee | dolphm, so between having it as a query parameter and request body is a matter of preference, and having it in the request body would (in theory) make life easier for the UI guys, would it make sense to favor request body | 22:13 |
| fabio | dolphm: technically you are right both works, it is just that people will jump at it as they did in the reviews when I followed the original bp :-) | 22:15 |
| dolphm | gyee: the UI guys? the client can always pass ?nocatalog and c.service_catalog can be fetched on first access... | 22:15 |
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| gyee | in other words, would by not having it as query parameter cause any issues | 22:15 |
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| gyee | UI meaning browsers doing form post | 22:16 |
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| dolphm | fabio: it's simpler, expressive, leads to fewer corner cases (what happens if i pass "include_catalog": true, does the server need to validate that it's a boolean? what if you pass null instead of false?) | 22:16 |
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| dolphm | gyee: so, yes ^ i'd argue that you make yourself vulnerable to more bugs by including it in the request body | 22:17 |
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| gyee | dolphm, query parameter then, you have me on "validating that is a boolean" :) | 22:18 |
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| dolphm | gyee: ha | 22:18 |
| fabio | dolphm: that is the same as passing a wrong user id. The code needs to validate the request and if invalid return a 400 | 22:18 |
| gyee | fabio, you don't want to deal with validation nightmare | 22:19 |
| dolphm | fabio: there's no alternative value though, it's either false, or undefined behavior | 22:19 |
| dolphm | fabio: so, just skip the opportunity for undefined behavior | 22:19 |
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| fabio | dolphm: there is the undefined behavior opportunity is not to express the parameter in the first place | 22:20 |
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| dolphm | fabio: that's not undefined, that's how the spec works today | 22:21 |
| dolphm | fabio: backwards compatibility and all, you're NOT removing support for including the catalog in the token | 22:21 |
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| fabio | dolphm: ok, so what do you want me to do? I can reverse it back (actually this mean no code changes for me), but I expect other members to jump at it and I fear it means missing the m2 deadline | 22:28 |
| fabio | dolphm: there only 1 week left and I truly want this thing to move along... | 22:28 |
| dolphm | fabio: reverse it back to what? if ?nocatalog, then i'm happy to argue in favor, obviously (if it's an issue) | 22:28 |
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| dolphm | fabio: trust me, i do to | 22:28 |
| dolphm | fabio: more than any other bug / bp | 22:29 |
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| fabio | dolphm: ok, I will change it back to ?nocatalog | 22:29 |
| fabio | if this moves things along ... | 22:29 |
| dolphm | fabio: was it really ?nocatalog at some point? | 22:30 |
| fabio | yes | 22:30 |
| fabio | see the first commit | 22:30 |
| fabio | patch | 22:30 |
| fabio | dolphm: I implemented the blueprint as specified | 22:30 |
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| dolphm | holy crap, apparently i've thought this through before | 22:30 |
| dolphm | i don't remember that | 22:30 |
| fabio | dolphm: you are fighting the wrong warrior :-) | 22:31 |
| sdague | hey dolphm, is the pin of python-keystoneclient in keystone to <0.3 still required? | 22:31 |
| dolphm | fabio: if you're updating the identity-api patch now, link me to it | 22:31 |
| dolphm | fabio: i'm going to be logging off soon though | 22:31 |
| dolphm | sdague: no; 0.3.0 was broken, 0.3.1 fixed the issue | 22:32 |
| fabio | dolphm: will do. Have a good one | 22:32 |
| dolphm | sdague: i think 0.3.0 broke ceilometer and cinder | 22:32 |
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| sdague | dolphm: ok, so right now the gate is wedge | 22:33 |
| sdague | wedged | 22:33 |
| sdague | in a fight between keystone client < 0.3 | 22:33 |
| dolphm | fabio: revised the bp to make GET /catalog out of scope | 22:33 |
| sdague | and horizon_django_auth needing >= 0.3 | 22:33 |
| dolphm | sdague: anything i can do to help? | 22:34 |
| dolphm | sdague: release 0.4.0? lol | 22:34 |
| sdague | yes, update requirements.txt to not pin < 0.3 | 22:34 |
| dolphm | sdague: common requirements? | 22:34 |
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| sdague | dolphm: no, in the keystone project | 22:34 |
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| dolphm | sdague: oh, wow.. ok | 22:35 |
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| dolphm | sdague: had no idea we were pinned | 22:36 |
| dolphm | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36355/ | 22:36 |
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| dolphm | gyee: ayoung: henrynash: urgent review ^ | 22:37 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: looking | 22:38 |
| dolphm | henrynash: gate is currently broken on conflicting requirements for keystoneclient (<0.3.0 vs >=0.3.0) | 22:38 |
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| henrynash | dolphmL I get to approve, since Joe is core still? | 22:40 |
| dolphm | henrynash: +2, but don't approve | 22:41 |
| henrynash | dolphm: done | 22:41 |
| dolphm | henrynash: approving before the initial gate check is complete is a no-no, as i learned (the hard way) recently ;) | 22:41 |
| henrynash | dolphm: ahh, yes!!! | 22:42 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i'll check back on it in a bit and approve if jenkins +1's | 22:42 |
| dolphm | henrynash: feel free to do the same yourself | 22:42 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: ok | 22:43 |
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