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| morganfainberg | henrynash: ping (not sure if you're up) | 05:35 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash, but ran across something that looks wrong, but wanted a second opinion on | 05:36 |
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| henrynash | morganfainberg: hi | 06:35 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, hi there | 06:35 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, so.. when we're creating a user … or group… we likely should be checking to see if the domain exists before merrily going along our way, right? | 06:36 |
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| henrynash | that would seem a sensible idea | 06:36 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, that was what i thought (another small landmine i've run across in this domain_scope stuff) | 06:37 |
| morganfainberg | i think i have a working patchset, except, that one V3 auth call :P | 06:37 |
| morganfainberg | still trying to figure out the solution to that one | 06:37 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, actually i probably spoke too soon. I've not run tests yet | 06:38 |
| morganfainberg | :P | 06:38 |
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| henrynash | morganfainber: so why is that a problem? the set of domains is always available in assignment? | 06:38 |
| henrynash | :-) | 06:38 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, that one call looks like it derives all assignment info from the user_ref | 06:38 |
| ekarlso- | morning -dev | 06:38 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, or wait, were you being sarcastic there? :P | 06:39 |
| morganfainberg | (it's approaching midnight here, my sarcasm detector via IRC is a little wacky:P) | 06:39 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: wasn't trying to be…just woke up, so mine aren't s hot either... | 06:40 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, sounds good ;) | 06:40 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, i didn't want to answer too seriously if it was intended to be humorous | 06:40 |
| morganfainberg | ooh. only 20 test failures so far. *doh* | 06:40 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: henrynash = thickskin | 06:41 |
| morganfainberg | oh a few of these tests need to go away *phew* | 06:41 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, hehe you're an opensource dev, gotta have the flame-retardant suit every now and again (not that we really have that issue w/ Openstack community) | 06:41 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, FAILED (SKIP=149, errors=102, failures=9) | 06:46 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash >.< guess it's a start | 06:46 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: you'll get those failures down in a exponential fashion, it always works that way | 06:47 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash, yep. | 06:47 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash, oh, i guess our tests aren't so good at creating domains in some cases.. like creating users… or groups :P | 06:49 |
| morganfainberg | knew, that thought would have… entertaining concequences. | 06:49 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: they used to be really bad…now better, bit I bet there are a load that just put junk i there | 06:50 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, thats what it looks like. | 06:50 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: slap DEFAULT_DOMAIN in there... | 06:50 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, yep! | 06:50 |
| morganfainberg | ValidationError: Could not find domain, 1018acb0c4504a598902599343ff6fe9. lol | 06:51 |
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| roaet | Has H3 been released? | 14:44 |
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| mordred | flaper87: morning | 14:46 |
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| flaper87 | mordred: morning :) | 14:46 |
| mordred | flaper87: I was just reading your blog post about marconi tests | 14:47 |
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| mordred | flaper87: and it made me sad that you put tests/ in the root, but then listed as your third reason reusability by other people - | 14:47 |
| mordred | flaper87: since that's one of the main reasons we've been moving the tests dirs that aren't in package dirs into them in the other projects | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | mordred: wait, tests in the root are the ones not reusable by other projects | 14:48 |
| mordred | yes | 14:48 |
| mordred | flaper87: it turns out, there are valid use cases for wanting to re-use your test cases too | 14:49 |
| mordred | flaper87: also, please please please don't use setupClass | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | mordred: what are the use cases were re-using the TestCase makes sense? | 14:51 |
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| mordred | flaper87: well, the main example I like to give people is one we ran in to with pep8 and hacking | 14:51 |
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| flaper87 | mordred: naah, I got rid of setUpClass | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:51 |
| mordred | yay! | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | no worries :D | 14:51 |
| mordred | flaper87: pep8 used to ship their test suite, and when we wrote hacking tests we would re-use their test suite to make sure that we weren't breaking things | 14:52 |
| mordred | flaper87: then, they decided to stop shipping it, because, you know, shipping a single python file was "too much waste" | 14:52 |
| mordred | flaper87: and we had to copy the main bits out of their file and into hacking | 14:52 |
| mordred | which was just ridiculous | 14:52 |
| mordred | it's tough to know when people might want to do creative/clever things :) | 14:53 |
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| anteaya | roaet: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2013-September/000140.html | 14:54 |
| anteaya | so yes | 14:54 |
| mordred | also, for discovery to work properly, you need an __init__.py in tests - and that would mean you're making an uninstalled python package called "tests" at the root level of the python heirarchy, which is not really what you're doing | 14:54 |
| roaet | o_O | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | mordred: mmhh, that's an interesting case I didn't think about. I wonder whether something like that could happen w/ Marconi. But like you just said, it's hard to know when people gets creative :D | 14:54 |
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| mordred | flaper87: :) | 14:54 |
| roaet | oh.. yes. thanks anteaya | 14:55 |
| mordred | flaper87: the main reason I'm even bringing it up is that I've been working on moving the ones that are outside back in to packages this cycle, so I was just sad :) | 14:55 |
| mordred | it's not going to break anything in the near term or anything | 14:55 |
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| flaper87 | mordred: I made tests work without putting an __init__ in the root, I added one because I needed some env vars to be defined for all tests, I guess I could move that somewhere else | 14:55 |
| anteaya | roaet: :D | 14:56 |
| mordred | flaper87: you'l need it for testr | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | mordred: ah, that's a good point | 14:56 |
| mordred | flaper87: not having __init__ in tests is a violation of the python test discovery protocol | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | and we're looking forward to have testr support | 14:56 |
| mordred | :) | 14:56 |
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| * flaper87 will use a sword after mordred stabs it in the back | 14:56 | |
| mordred | flaper87: also, I'm on the first cup of coffee right now, so I'm extra grumpy :) | 14:56 |
| * flaper87 gives mordred another cup of coffee \_/? | 14:57 | |
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| flaper87 | mordred: all good points, man. Thanks for bringing them up. | 14:57 |
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| garyk1 | boris-42: ping | 14:58 |
| mordred | flaper87: my pleasure! | 14:59 |
| boris-42 | garyk1 hi | 14:59 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, are you working on web encode/decode for Ids? | 15:24 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: henrynash: gyee: morganfainberg: bknudson: review request spam! (simple patch with a lot of history in the commit msg & bug comments) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45469/ | 15:48 |
| henrynash | dolphm: looking | 15:48 |
| ayoung | lookin | 15:48 |
| dolphm | henrynash: thank you! | 15:48 |
| dolphm | ayoung: /salute | 15:49 |
| gyee | review time! | 15:49 |
| ayoung | I knew, before loking at the committer, that it was a John Dennis fix | 15:49 |
| ayoung | Bet the commit message is longer than the rest of the patch | 15:49 |
| dolphm | i'm not sure this one is perfect, but i see it as a huge improvement from where we're at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45650/ | 15:49 |
| gyee | wow, I like the commit message | 15:49 |
| dolphm | ayoung: ++ | 15:50 |
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| ayoung | hmm...wonder how much stuff this will break | 15:50 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, if we drop the password field, do we break all of the puppet scripts etc> | 15:54 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: passwords would just be ignored as an unrecognized option, no? | 15:54 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: keystone starts without complaint when you make typos in keystone.conf variable names | 15:56 |
| dolphm | afaik | 15:56 |
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| ayoung | jdennis, you around? | 16:12 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, we don't pass the values on the command line to PKI setup, so it should be OK. That is what I thought would break. | 16:14 |
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| roaet | Should I rebase my changed with the H3 milestone-proposed or with master still? | 16:25 |
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| anteaya | roaet: let's see the change | 16:32 |
| anteaya | what is the url | 16:32 |
| roaet | anteaya: I just went ahead and rebased with origin/master and i'm about to push to gerrit when pep8 is done. | 16:32 |
| anteaya | let's see what happens | 16:33 |
| roaet | anteaya: what time is the main openstack meeting again? I forgot | 16:33 |
| anteaya | roaet well Tuesdays are the busy day | 16:34 |
| anteaya | infra meeting then the technical committe and then the project release meeting | 16:35 |
| anteaya | do you want the project release meeting? | 16:35 |
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| roaet | anteaya: nevermind ;) I figured it out. sorry | 16:35 |
| anteaya | np | 16:36 |
| anteaya | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 16:36 |
| anteaya | since i had it in the buffer | 16:36 |
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| AndreaRosa | zul: are you there? | 16:39 |
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| zul | AndreaRosa: yep | 16:39 |
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| AndreaRosa | sorry to bother you, a quick question I hope you are the right persone | 16:39 |
| AndreaRosa | is there any plan to have deb package for websockify 0.5.1 version/ | 16:40 |
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| zul | AndreaRosa: fire away | 16:40 |
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| AndreaRosa | with this change https://review.openstack.org/35365 nova has this new requirement (websockify>=0.5.1,<0.6) | 16:44 |
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| samuelbercovici | help | 17:00 |
| samuelbercovici | ? | 17:00 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, where is multiple domains documented? I thought it was in doc/source/configuration.rst | 17:03 |
| samuelbercovici | /msg markmcclain hi | 17:03 |
| samuelbercovici | msg | 17:03 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: which aspect of multi-domains? | 17:15 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so near the top of configuration.rst we describe multiple config files…and further down we describe policy files in a multi-domain environment | 17:17 |
| ayoung | henrynash, nah, I was looking for it under ldap. FOund it higher up in the doc | 17:17 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, trying to have an LDAP domain on top of SQL | 17:18 |
| ayoung | SQLworking Ok | 17:18 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I copied the live ldap config file from the tests directory and put it in /etc/keystone/keystone.openstack.conf file | 17:19 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, if domain_name is the name of the file, where does domain_id come from? The assignments back end? | 17:21 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45650/ | 17:26 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, looks good. Approved. | 17:30 |
| dolphm | ayoung: thanks! | 17:30 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: yes | 17:31 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45486/ | 17:33 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, are we going to push to have URL encoding of the user and group ids in Havana? | 17:34 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: morganfainberg: we talked a bit about completely disabling domain-specific drivers in havana, but A) i'm not sure henrynash was in that discussion and B) I don't think we decided exactly how/where to put a one line kill switch | 17:34 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: you mean icehouse? | 17:35 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, no, as a bug fix for multi. | 17:35 |
| ayoung | I take it that your response means "hells no" | 17:36 |
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| ayoung | and I'm OK with that, just not sure what the outcome from last weeks discussion about it was | 17:36 |
| ayoung | dolphm, they already need to be explicitly enabled | 17:36 |
| ayoung | you need to set domain_specific_drivers=True in the identity section | 17:37 |
| henrynash | yep, disabled by default | 17:37 |
| dolphm | ayoung: henrynash: yes but it's completely broken | 17:37 |
| ayoung | henrynash, does using a DN as an ID work? | 17:37 |
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| bknudson | how would you use a DN as an ID without rewriting the LDAP driver? | 17:38 |
| ayoung | dolphm, that is what I am trying to ascertain | 17:38 |
| ayoung | it might not be "completely" broken | 17:38 |
| ayoung | just mostly broken | 17:38 |
| ayoung | Now, it were completely broken, the only thing we could do is go through the pockets and look for spare change | 17:38 |
| ayoung | bknudson, :) | 17:38 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, shouldn't need to | 17:38 |
| ayoung | bknudson, it should be a config option...for READ only | 17:38 |
| ayoung | and you should not be writing to LDAP from Keystone. | 17:39 |
| henrynash | dolphm: so morganfainberg and i have talked through how to make it work (still as 'experimental') but with restrictions | 17:39 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: he has a patch up which does (most of) this | 17:39 |
| dolphm | henrynash: link? | 17:40 |
| henrynash | dolphm: however, we need to make sure the cure is worse than just killing it (for now) | 17:40 |
| henrynash | dolphm: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45649/ | 17:40 |
| dolphm | henrynash: s/worse/not worse/ ? | 17:41 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I know that, in theory you can't have = in an url...but in practice, I wonder if it works | 17:42 |
| ayoung | I think it is only a real problem when they show up after ? | 17:42 |
| ayoung | signifying query params | 17:42 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: yes…for instance, we don't want (i think) to restrict cross domain access completely, just to ensure for anyone who is using multiple LDAPs that it hangs together there | 17:42 |
| henrynash | ayoung: sorry, can you give me the context | 17:43 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: I don't think it's even a problem if an = shows up after the ? ... since most apps would be using form-url-encoded so the first = splits the attr name from the value. | 17:45 |
| bknudson | but I would never advocate generating invalid urls. | 17:45 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: in fact, I don't think his changes will cause that issue (since domain_scope is only relevant at the manager level if you have multiple LDAP/SQL drivers) | 17:52 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: not wanting to break train of thought…but when you have a moment, I'l like to pick up our conversation on default_projects and membership roles etc. | 17:52 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: added a warning log to this- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45486/ | 17:56 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: ooh, that's my favorite conversation! ;) | 17:57 |
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| bknudson | dolphm lbragstad: I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45320/ , merging the 3 separate reviews. | 18:02 |
| dolphm | bknudson: thanks! | 18:02 |
| henrynash | dolphm: my basic question is whether we can just treat default_project (and default tenant before it) as simply saving the caller of authentication having to be explicit about a project…and that our grant tables do indeed paint the entire picture of what projects a user has access to... | 18:03 |
| henrynash | dolphm: I believe the answer is yes | 18:03 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45486/ -- starting gate jobs and then new patch set... does it need approve again? | 18:03 |
| dolphm | henrynash: that's the goal of _member_, yes | 18:03 |
| ayoung | henrynash, if you are saying "don't enroll/disenrol the user when setting default project." then I am all in favor | 18:04 |
| dolphm | henrynash: so, _member_ should be implicitly managed by the v2 controllers, and the v3 controllers require explicit authz on a default_project_id | 18:04 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: no, I''m not saving that…I think we should enrol them (as we do now) | 18:04 |
| ayoung | henrynash, unenroll? | 18:05 |
| henrynash | ayoung: now your talking... | 18:05 |
| bknudson | is there any security issue? | 18:05 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I want the user to be able to set the value themselves | 18:05 |
| ayoung | but they should not be able to enroll | 18:05 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so today we never unenroll (there a method for it, we never call it as far as I can see) | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | so hi | 18:05 |
| dolphm | henrynash: there's a patch to fix that | 18:05 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I agree | 18:05 |
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| ayoung | in v3 how do we list users for a domain? | 18:06 |
| henrynash | ayoung: sorry, typed without seeing your 2nd comment :-) | 18:06 |
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| henrynash | ayoung, dolphm: so this came about with this fix: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45584/ | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, based upon the discussion last week w/ ayoung and bknudson and henrynash I thought it would be worth a bit of effort to get the domain stuff to "expirimental" instead of "partially-implmented" | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | bknudson: thanks! | 18:08 |
| henrynash | ayoung, dolphm: the old code sometimes added in default_project/tenant into the list of "user projects", sometime it didn't….I'm proposing we don't need to | 18:08 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, +1. Number one most requested feature in OS is the ability to have LDAP read only, and that meant the split backend. I suspect that, with the split, people will start converting over. Even if they only use One LDAP backend, I would like the setup to be sane, and that means DNs for the user ids | 18:09 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: the old code sounds broken; why don't you need to include it? | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, that one fix I didn't touch in the "cleanup" patchset. i wanted to tackle that separately, since there is likely some migration mojo. | 18:10 |
| henrynash | dolphm: I haven't…that's what I am checking… I have removed that bit | 18:10 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so are you suggesting that if you create set a default_project in a user, but have added no role for that user, then they would fail to get a token? | 18:11 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i expect it to *always* appear in the list of GET :5000/v2.0/tenants to v2 clients, and i would expect it to *sometimes* appear in the list for v3 clients GET /v3/users/{my_user_id}/projects | 18:12 |
| henrynash | dolphm: and sometimes for v3 because….. | 18:13 |
| dolphm | henrynash: because it's a user-defined preference and that user may or may not have authz on the user-specific proejct | 18:14 |
| henrynash | dolphm: so creating a user with a default project in v3 WILL add a member role onto that project (so it would always appear), unless the user manually removed that member role | 18:15 |
| dolphm | henrynash: =( | 18:15 |
| dolphm | default_project_id (string): References the user's default project against which to authorize, if the API user does not explicitly specify one when creating a token. Setting this attribute does not grant any actual authorization on the project, and is merely provided for the user's convenience. | 18:16 |
| dolphm | from- https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#users-v3users | 18:16 |
| henrynash | dolphm: so I'm in violent agreement with you…. | 18:17 |
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| dolphm | "so creating a user with a default project in v3 WILL add a member role onto that project" s/WILL/should absolutely NOT/ | 18:18 |
| dolphm | so, v3 is broken in that regard? | 18:18 |
| henrynash | dolphm: yes | 18:18 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: new bug since grizzly? | 18:19 |
| henrynash | dolphm: don;t think so, I'd have to check | 18:19 |
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| henrynash | diolphm: that means of course that you could get a project token straight away and match certain policy rules that only required membership of a project | 18:20 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: borderline security vulnerability... | 18:23 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: I thin kit might be new…I can't see that code in stable/grizzly | 18:23 |
| dolphm | henrynash: write a test that creates a user on v3 with a default_project_id and make sure they get a 401 when trying to auth against it | 18:23 |
| morganfainberg | I always hated that "defauilt_project_id" semantic. | 18:24 |
| henrynash | dolphm: yeah, agreed….let me investigate future | 18:24 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: the magicness or the naming? | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | it seemed… superfluous | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, both | 18:24 |
| ayoung | henrynash, yeah, that makes sense...or even they get a token, but with no roles! Nahe, no roles, no token | 18:24 |
| henrynash | ayoung: yep, I agree | 18:24 |
| henrynash | ok, let me drive this one | 18:25 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, for Icehouse, the horizon team should make an extension for the user object to hold preferences for Horizon | 18:25 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: opposite test -- create a user with a default tenancy on v2, successfully generate a scoped token as that user, then remove default tenancy, and make sure they lose authz on that tenant | 18:26 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: what kind of preferences? | 18:26 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ on that | 18:26 |
| dolphm | stevemar: user.favorite_color = '#466bb0' | 18:27 |
| henrynash | dolphm: pretty sure THAT won't work….(although I agree it should)…and yes, I know the fix you are talking about of that | 18:27 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, well, in my case it would be "Always add this keypair when creating a vm" | 18:27 |
| henrynash | dolphm: …that is in progress... | 18:27 |
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| stevemar | thanks ayoung: no thanks dolphm :P | 18:27 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: there's an open bug against to correct that behavior | 18:27 |
| dolphm | stevemar: is that not you favorite color? :( | 18:28 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: yep | 18:28 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, can we make it everyone's favorite color? | 18:28 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: ibm blue? | 18:30 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, hrm, sure. | 18:30 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, :P | 18:31 |
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| dolphm | "IBM blue is Hex: #466BB0, CYMK 79,59, 2, 0, RGA 70, 107, 176. No other colors or variations are acceptable, ever." International Business Machines, Branding and Style Guide | 18:32 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: I never know you had it in you…. | 18:33 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45486/ | 18:33 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, going to push go. looks good to me | 18:35 |
| morganfainberg | unless you want more eyes on it | 18:35 |
| henrynash | dolphm: ..actually, on default_project, I think we are in better shape than I thought for v3…but still going to write the tests | 18:35 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, do we need to worry about string freeze in this case? | 18:37 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg, ayoung: when you have time, no rush, easy one to (hopefully) approve: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45591/ | 18:38 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i had to look that up.. adding log messages is okay | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ok then pressing go. | 18:40 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StringFreeze | 18:40 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash, looks good, pressed go. | 18:44 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: thx | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, have a fix for the jenkins stuff for my patchset, i'm looking into the other questions/shuffling. I am not sure how much change I want to introduce | 18:45 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, trying to keep the scope limited(ish) so we don't accidently break something along the way | 18:46 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: fair comment…I agree…priority is: don't break anything! | 18:46 |
| dolphm | > don't accidently break something | 18:46 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, thats the plan | 18:46 |
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| russellb | flaper87: can you follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44925/ ? | 18:49 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, any thoughts on my response to the commit message note you left? I'm in a meeting so i can't chat too much about it. | 18:49 |
| morganfainberg | here. (limited focus for irc) | 18:50 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: let me check | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, thanks | 18:50 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash, to be fair i might be mis-understading what you were presenting there. | 18:53 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: so in your comment, did you mean an LDAP assignment or identity backend? | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | identity, are you proposing adding a role for a user to a domain they don't belong to? | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | i'm thinking there are going to be odd edge cases where things will just resolve wrong | 18:56 |
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| morganfainberg | I can remove the comment, no problem. | 18:56 |
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| henrynash | morganfainberg: so Iam' not actually suggesting you change your patch…other than to not fail a grant request if you can;t find the user_id in order to build the policy projecttion | 18:56 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, ah. ok. | 18:57 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: I think in general you are correct - we can't provide comprehensive cloud admin, but we can for those non-identity APIs (like grants)…and cloud admins can use that to ensure they can operate where needed on identity | 18:58 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, ok. i'll look at the grant failing item | 18:58 |
| morganfainberg | and i'll pull that comment out of the commit message | 18:58 |
| morganfainberg | leave it as part of the "non-included" known issues | 18:58 |
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| henrynash | morganfaiberg: I added a comment in assignment as to where I thought we shouldn't fail | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | i saw that one | 18:59 |
| henrynash | morganfainberg: going offline for a bit, be back on later | 19:00 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, sounds good | 19:00 |
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| ericw | ttx: any idea/decision when havana branches off? | 19:00 |
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| dolphm | ericw: as soon as the first release candidates are created | 19:04 |
| ericw | dolphm: thanks | 19:04 |
| dolphm | ericw: FFE's are tracked here, which should be a decent gauge http://status.openstack.org/release/ | 19:05 |
| dolphm | ericw: after that it's just bugs | 19:06 |
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| ericw | dolphm: thanks. I'm just verifying to underline a point for someone setting an uncomfortable internal deadline ;-) | 19:08 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: i doubt anyone from docs is on | 19:48 |
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| bknudson | no problem, luckily there's plenty of docs | 19:49 |
| dolphm | bknudson: they're having a party in CA today | 19:49 |
| dolphm | bknudson: what do you need help with? | 19:49 |
| bknudson | dolphm: nothing at this point. I found the wiki page. | 19:50 |
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| morganfainberg | am i crazy, or.. https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/assignment/backends/ldap.py#L90 this doesn't look like it's used by anything | 20:00 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: self._get_metadata() is called from assignment/core.py | 20:03 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, ahh thanks. | 20:03 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, that was what i was looking for | 20:03 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, link? | 20:06 |
| bknudson | ayoung: this? https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/assignment/core.py#L114 | 20:07 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, there are going to be more and more things stranded in that code as we cut the ties. I want to deprecate it in icehouse | 20:07 |
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| bknudson | each backend implements get_metadata | 20:08 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I meant the LDAP assignements backend | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, agreed | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ on that as well | 20:08 |
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| bknudson | it's sad that keystone is merely a subtopic of compute. | 20:09 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: just want to make sure, is this the Keystone docs: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/ch-identity-mgmt-config.html | 20:10 |
| dolphm | bknudson: well, that's how it started :P but that should change | 20:10 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, keystone could almost be used sans compute these days (for other projects non-nova) | 20:11 |
| morganfainberg | even non openstack | 20:11 |
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| bknudson | my own build of the keystone docs is missing a bunch of stuff... wrong branch or something? | 20:12 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: and yes, that's the biggest concentration of keystone related stuff afaik | 20:12 |
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| jdennis | ayoung: yes I'm here, darn gnome3, I never know when someone is talking to me in irc | 20:23 |
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| russellb | jdennis: tried gnome-shell-extension-pidgin? | 20:25 |
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| jdennis | russellb: could you be more explicit, I've tried just about every extension I can find, FWIW I don't see anything with the name you just cited | 20:31 |
| russellb | jdennis: on fedora? | 20:32 |
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| russellb | jdennis: i have a package called 'gnome-shell-extension-pidgin' | 20:32 |
| russellb | i don't use pidgin anymore, just saw that i had it installed | 20:32 |
| russellb | (i'm assuming you're using pidgin) | 20:32 |
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| russellb | and fwiw, xchat notifications are working fine for me on gnome 3, fedora 19. | 20:33 |
| jdennis | russellb: yes I'm using pidgen, maybe I just using the wrong irc client (what I really believe is notifications in gnome3 remain broken) | 20:34 |
| russellb | work for me. | 20:34 |
| bknudson | I give up... when I build https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/admin-guide-cloud I don't get http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/ch-identity-mgmt-config.html | 20:35 |
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| bknudson | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blame/master/README.rst#L42 references a directory that doesn't exist. | 20:36 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: that definitely used to exist | 20:50 |
| dolphm | bknudson: it looks like they refactored the repo layout | 20:50 |
| bknudson | that party must have gotten out of hand. | 20:50 |
| dolphm | bknudson: lol. is it this? https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/user-guide-admin | 20:51 |
| dolphm | referring to that* ? | 20:51 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: so here's a review in progress: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44991/ | 20:51 |
| bknudson | has doc/src/docbkx/openstack-compute-admin/computenetworking.xml | 20:51 |
| bknudson | but there's no doc/src anymore ... https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc | 20:52 |
| dolphm | bknudson: did you see the comment? | 20:52 |
| bknudson | dolphm: which comment? | 20:52 |
| dolphm | bknudson: the latest on the review | 20:53 |
| bknudson | ah, at the bottom of the review | 20:53 |
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| bknudson | finding out that at least I'm not crazy, just not sure how to match up whats on the live doc site with what I generate locally | 20:54 |
| dolphm | bknudson: it's probably install-guide | 20:57 |
| dolphm | err, no... | 20:57 |
| dolphm | that's the old doc/src/openstack-install/ | 20:57 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, have you looked at the doc gate job? | 21:06 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, or am i looking at the wrong thing… no openstack-manuals… nvm ignore me :P | 21:06 |
| bknudson | dolphm: when I check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44991/ and build doc/src/docbkx/openstack-compute-admin I get what's on http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/ | 21:06 |
| bknudson | but master is something different | 21:07 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: i'm still trying to get my head around the new repo structure :( | 21:09 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: i'm starting to wonder if some things are in a new repo | 21:10 |
| dolphm | bknudson: can you find the page he was correcting on the current website? | 21:11 |
| bknudson | dolphm: there's no computenetworking.xml as far as find can find | 21:12 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: yeah, i can't figure out where that file went | 21:13 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45517/ | 21:14 |
| dolphm | bknudson: it was deleted? | 21:14 |
| bknudson | openstack-compute-admin DELETE | 21:14 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: openstack-compute-admin -> becomes a chapter in admin-guide-cloud | 21:15 |
| dolphm | from bug 1220407 | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1220407 in openstack-manuals "openstack-manuals: rename subfolders to use naming convention" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220407 | 21:15 |
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| bknudson | when I generated admin-guide-cloud , it has some stuff in identity, but it's got fewer sections. | 21:15 |
| bknudson | then what's on the web site. | 21:15 |
| dolphm | bknudson: that content looks to be missing AFAICT | 21:16 |
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| bknudson | "I think this'll help much with walk-up contributors, thanks." -- ha! | 21:16 |
| dolphm | rofl | 21:16 |
| insanidade | anyone using eclipse+pydev for debugging ? | 21:17 |
| dolphm | bknudson: everything from openstack-compute-admin was deleted, not moved | 21:17 |
| dolphm | bknudson: and there's no Adds in that commit | 21:17 |
| dolphm | insanidade: keystone supports it, but i don't use it myself | 21:17 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, i've done it with pycharm | 21:17 |
| morganfainberg | it's similar, but i don;t use it a lot | 21:17 |
| dolphm | insanidade: e.g. keystone-all --pydev-debug-host= --pydev-debug-port= | 21:18 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm beat me to it! :P | 21:18 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: left a comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1220407/comments/9 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1220407 in openstack-manuals "openstack-manuals: rename subfolders to use naming convention" [High,Fix released] | 21:19 |
| dolphm | wonder why it was high priority | 21:20 |
| insanidade | dolphm, morganfainberg : looks like someone in the comunity described a way to do it but I can't find where it is documented. | 21:21 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, http://tropicaldevel.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/debugging-openstack-with-pycharm-and-pydevd/ i think? | 21:21 |
| morganfainberg | but thats pycharm | 21:22 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: wich ide do you use with it ? | 21:22 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, i use pycharm | 21:23 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, but i haven't done it much tbh | 21:23 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: ah, ok. pycharm is an ide. got it. | 21:24 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg, dolphm : the guy I was talking about is gong yong sheng. Looks like he's found a way to use pydev+eclipse for debugging. | 21:25 |
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| insanidade | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronDevelopment#How_to_debug_Neutron_.28and_other_OpenStack_projects_probably_.29 | 21:26 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, it uses a similar mechanism | 21:26 |
| morganfainberg | to eclipse, just the pycharm way | 21:26 |
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| jamielennox | keystone people: i know it's a big one but i kind of need some reviewing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44014/ - i don't like prompting, but it's > week | 21:28 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, ah crap, i meant to look at that one this weekend sorry | 21:29 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: that's ok, keystoneclient is actually pretty stable at the moment so it hasn't needed rebasing | 21:30 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, everyone was rushing for FF :P i'll look at it here next time i'm hitting reviews | 21:31 |
| morganfainberg | today/tonight | 21:31 |
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| jamielennox | np, just gentle prodding | 21:33 |
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| morganfainberg | cool :) | 21:34 |
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| bdpayne | ayoung You know if there is something like this around for the v3 api? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/api_curl_examples.html | 21:41 |
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| ayoung | bdpayne, not yet. just the api doc | 21:58 |
| bdpayne | ok, thanks | 21:59 |
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| henrynash | dolphm, ayoung: when you have time, perhaps take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45584/ | 22:04 |
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