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spn http://paste.openstack.org/show/47664/07:15
spncan some one suggest what could go wrong07:15
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sgranspn: you don't have quantum_admin_auth_url in nova.conf, at a guess09:10
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spnsgran: thanks for response  .. I do this in the nova.conf     http://ip:35357/v2.009:36
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spnI mean nova.conf has it09:37
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spnran nova-api in debug mode to see that neutronclient.cleient is getting a 401 unauthorized from keystone09:38
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lifelessttx: hey09:41
lifelesshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Approved/Incubation09:41
lifelessttx: those docs are indeed stale when considered from tripleo + tuskar's perspective.09:42
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lifelessttx: it has a bunch of project/program confusion09:42
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ttxlifeless: you read the "deprecated" warning on top of that file, right ?09:42
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ttxNot saying the rest of the odc is up to date, but that page is specificallt marked deprectaed09:43
ttxdoc*09:43
lifelessttx: I don't see a deprecation warning09:43
ttx"WARNING: This is a governance change proposal from the PPB era ! Current state of affairs lives at Governance/NewProjects."09:43
ttxtop of the page09:43
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lifelessttx: perhaps that could be reworded09:44
lifelessttx: I did not interpret that correctly09:44
ttxlifeless: those pages were the way proposals were made back in 201109:44
ttxlifeless: all those documents mostly reflect past governance models, but we are not really supposed to reword them09:45
lifelessheh09:45
lifelessttx: surely the deprecation warning can be reworded09:45
ttxthe warning could be more intimidating and visible, I agree09:45
ttxlifeless: feel free to reword it, it shouldn't be a protected document09:46
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ttxlifeless: in addition, this page should no longer be linked from anywhere09:46
ttxbut i wouldn't put any money on that09:47
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lifelessttx: google found it09:53
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ttxlifeless: damn them09:54
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lifelessttx: btw #tripleo. Lurk plox.10:00
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* ttx gives it a try10:00
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spnneutronclient is auth failing with keystone .. http://paste.openstack.org/show/47689/   anyone has thoughts on this error? this is with ubuntu-havana release12:24
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ttxdhellmann: you should have a new look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40234/ : your -2 there should probably be revisited12:39
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avishayCore members: is there any way to undo an 'approve' while it's in gate?13:16
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danpb1avishay: you need to -2 it13:16
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jgriffithavishay: which change?13:17
avishaydanpb: did that but it's still there13:17
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avishaydanpb: jgriffith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48274/13:17
jgriffithavishay: it won't abort the gate, and if it's merging you may have to revert depending on what issue you found13:17
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jgriffithavishay: You're good.. it's not approved yet13:18
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jgriffithavishay: It will finish the jenkins run but you're -2 will be there13:18
avishayjgriffith: i removed the approve later - it's still in gate13:18
jgriffithavishay: oh :)  I think you'll be good still13:18
avishayjgriffith: ok we'll see, i will revert if necessary13:18
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danpbjgriffith: i think it'll do another check of flags after gate passes, but before merging13:19
jgriffithdanpb: I believe that's correct13:19
jgriffithavishay: this particular patch probably isn't worth reverting (it's not harmful) just kinda of silly as markmc pointed out13:20
jgriffithavishay: goes back to a discussion we had the other day about end of cycle churn13:20
avishayjgriffith: cycle churn?13:21
jgriffithavishay: although I'm leary of something so crtiical not having more test time on it before release :(13:21
jgriffithavishay: end of cycle churn.... everybody wanting to do the easy updates, synch all common, libs, reqs, copyright headers, pep8 changes etc etc13:22
jgriffithavishay: well... easy if they merge clean and tests pass.  Sometimes back-fires :)13:22
avishayjgriffith: yup, ok :)13:22
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avishaymaybe there need to be stricter guidelines about when things happen...maybe this should all have to happen by rc1, and then there is some time to test something more settled13:24
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dhellmannttx: the groupby parameter does not support the metadata fields, yet, so there is no way to group by the flavor id13:43
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ttxdhellmann: ah. Thought that had been addressed during the feature freeze. Ignore me13:44
dhellmannttx: I'll add a comment on the changeset13:44
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icchattx: when does rc1 for glance get cut?13:57
ttxiccha: when you fix all the release-critical bugs13:58
ttx3 left last time I looked13:58
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ttxiccha: pending https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47786/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48496/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48401/13:59
icchahmm some of them are nice to have but not must have for rc1. but i ll let mark make the decision i guess. ttx13:59
icchado we have a deadline?13:59
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ttxiccha: RC1 must be produced before the release date, and ideally it should be out today or tomorrow14:00
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ttxso that they see enough testing14:00
icchaok thanks , will get reviewing then14:01
ttxiccha: at this point it should be only blockers on the RC list14:01
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ttxiccha: and some of the glance RC1 ones are a bit "nice to have" rather than blockers14:01
ttxiccha: will refine with Mark later today14:02
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icchaya i think mark is aware of that and has it in mind. awesome thanks ttx.14:04
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chenxuis there a way to create a container prefix (say 10.10.0.0/16) or a few prefixes and force all subnets created by users to be within that range?14:41
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chenxuWhat's the password for the noVNC thing? Tried instance pw, instance uuid, neither worked..14:49
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jgriffithdims: thanks for the help over the week-end and this morning, here's hoping that's it for that one :)15:23
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dimsjgriffith, yw! hope it sticks.15:25
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jgriffithdims: ditto :)15:26
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dolphmmorganfainberg: did we not open a bug for this on friday? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48746/15:50
dolphmmorganfainberg: also, thanks for hammer on the reverify button over the weekend :)15:50
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annegentledevstack question - what's the best next step when I get a timeout error from devstack trying to do create_userrc.sh?16:18
annegentleerror is this:16:18
annegentleERROR: HTTPConnectionPool(host='162.242.162.99', port=8774): Request timed out. (timeout=600.0)16:18
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dolphmmorganfainberg: henrynash: bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48993/16:23
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dolphmmorganfainberg: henrynash: bknudson: trying to get any last minute nice-to-haves gating - bug fixes may or may not make RC1 at this point16:24
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JavinAny chance that I can get a review +1 from someone on this one line change in the Packstack codebase?      https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48386/16:29
dolphmannegentle: this doesn't look right to me, but i'm struggling to find how to do this correctly? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48872/16:30
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dolphmannegentle: do you just leave the extension off to have it work across publishing formats?16:30
bknudsondolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48993/ looks good to me, Jenkins didn't like it.16:30
annegentledolphm: no it looks plainly inccorect to me16:30
annegentledolphm: unless those files are html?16:30
dolphmannegentle: they're rst files in doc/16:31
annegentledolphm: ok then that's not the fix16:31
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dolphmbknudson: i haven't seen that failure before...16:31
bknudsondolphm: looks more like an infra issue with sudo setup16:32
dolphmbknudson: yeah; this is the same test, but different failure https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/123297416:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1232974 in neutron "tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps.test_network_basic_op" [Undecided,New]16:33
dolphmbknudson: ah, https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/123241616:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1232416 in tempest "sudo secure tty issue in jenkins runs" [Undecided,New]16:33
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annegentledolphm: reviewed16:36
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annegentleI guess my devstack problem is just some fluke, I tried it with another image and it worked fine.16:37
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dstanekdolphm, bknudson: Jenkins hates me :-) that same bug has caused several of my reviews to fail16:38
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JavinAny chance that I can get a review +1 from someone on this one line change in the Packstack codebase? It allows packstack to detect linux sub-interfaces correctly (like tagged VLAN interfaces).   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48386/17:16
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shardyayoung: Hi, can you link any tempest reviews adding API coverage, so I have an example to refer to when adding the test you've requested in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48462/ ?18:17
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morganfainbergdolphm, yeah the last couple patches finally made it in yesterday i think (weekned was kind of a blur)18:29
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bigmstoneIs the output here a bug or am I just stupid (I'm okay with being stupid):  http://www.pastebin.com/tpdePLvZ18:43
bigmstoneThis happens on all Xenserver nova nodes in pool that aren't master.18:44
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BobBallbigmstone: How are you setting up the pool?19:00
BobBall-pool+aggregate19:00
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bigmstoneThrough OpenStack aggregate.19:01
bigmstoneit sets the pool up fine, but breaks the other nodes in the process.19:01
morganfainbergdolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48746/ added bug to it.19:01
morganfainbergdolphm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/123332919:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1233329 in keystone "034 migration fails for SQLite if there is data in the user table" [Undecided,In progress]19:01
dolphmmorganfainberg: thanks!19:01
BobBallok, but what steps are you following bigmstone?  And I suspect we'd need more of a log file19:01
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bigmstoneBobBall: I'm following the steps outlined at http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer/LiveMigration#Setting_up_a_XenServer_pool_using_Host_Aggregates19:03
bigmstoneBobBall: I can get you w/e you need. Just let me know what it is and I'll get it to ou.19:04
bigmstones/ou/you/19:04
BobBallA bigger nova.conf would be good :)19:04
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BobBalland what are you running? XS6.2 with Havana? (i.e. trunk) or an earlier version?19:05
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bigmstoneXenServer 6.2 with Grizzly.19:06
bigmstoneUbuntu packages for grizzly.19:06
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bigmstoneBobBall: all my configs are at http://www.pastebin.com/u/bigmstone including nova.conf for controller and compute nodes.19:07
BobBallah19:07
BobBallI'm not sure what the status of host aggregates was in grizzly...19:07
BobBallwould you be happy to test havana to check if it's fixed there?19:07
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BobBallbecause I think it works ATM19:08
bigmstoneI'm downgrading to XCP 1.6 to see if that works, then I'll try Havana.19:08
BobBalloh, and instead of nova.conf I actually meant nova log file! sorry19:08
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BobBallI'd be amazed if 1.6 worked if 6.2 doesn't19:08
BobBallit's fundamentally the same API19:08
BobBallbut I haven't checked the grizzly code myself19:08
BobBallit's quite possible that host aggregates didn't work19:08
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bigmstoneBobBall: only reason I'm hesitant to go Havana is I'm testing this for a prod environment and Havana isn't officially RC1 yet.19:09
BobBallunderstood19:09
bigmstoneBut I'm for sure cool with testing it. No reason for anyone to have to fix what's already fixed.19:09
BobBallI can probably work out what's wrong with the grizzly code and give you a patch to make it work - but then it's verging off the Grizzly packages anyway19:10
BobBallI guess the detlta would be small enough to give you confidence with the changes19:10
BobBalldunno19:10
bigmstoneBobBall: I would imagine so too. I've been trying to follow the trace back through to see where things go wrong, but the exact same node works just fine until it's joined to the pool. So my guess is it's somewhere in XenAPI plugins in Dom019:11
BobBallmore likely to be the way it's connecting to the host19:11
BobBallwhen you join a pool all connections need to go through the master19:12
BobBallso we have some code to re-connect to the master when we detect it's a slave19:12
BobBallthe dom0 plugins don't change when it's a slave vs master19:12
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bigmstoneGot ya. So the connections are made through master's api to the slave nodes?19:12
BobBallbut yes, to answer your initial question, the trace is definitely a bug :)19:12
BobBallwhether we can fix it or not is a different question (because it's a bug in the grizzly packages and I've not been through the back-portingprocess)19:13
BobBallcorrect19:13
BobBallwhat version of grizzly are you using?19:13
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bigmstoneBobBall: can you tell me how to find out? Not sure what Ubuntu's latest packages are.19:14
BobBallwhat's the version on the package?19:14
BobBallI'm not sure how best to find out :D19:14
BobBallI imagine dpkg can tell you19:14
BobBalldpkg -s <package>19:15
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bigmstone1:2013.1.3-0ubuntu1~cloud019:15
bigmstoneWhatever that means.19:15
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BobBallthat's what I assumed19:15
BobBall2013.1.319:15
bigmstoneIf I'm reading that right the package was built january third?19:16
BobBallno19:16
BobBallyear 2013, release 1, version 319:16
BobBallwe do two releases a year19:16
bigmstoneGot ya.19:16
BobBallHavana will be 2013.2.0 when it's released19:16
bigmstoneMakes sense.19:16
BobBallthat's what I think anyway19:16
BobBall_virtapi not being set is very weird19:17
BobBallmight suggest an error occured right when it started19:17
BobBalli.e. when it joined the pool19:17
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BobBallbecause it's set at the end of the function to whatever-was-passed-in19:18
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bigmstoneYeah, I get that output each time I try to start nova-compute19:18
bigmstoneit starts then dies there19:18
BobBallhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2013.1.3/nova/virt/xenapi/driver.py#L63519:18
BobBallcan I have a full log of the output?19:19
bigmstoneThat is the full log.19:19
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BobBallwell that sucks.19:19
luisgbnemec, jswarren please check out alternative to re-work of Message https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46553/ just saying from the looks it works since all tests pass and is less invasive19:19
bigmstoneLol19:20
bigmstoneThat's from service nova-compute start until it dies.19:20
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BobBallcould you add some debugging to it by adding debug=true to /etc/nova/nova.conf19:20
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bigmstoneSure. Will post in a sec.19:21
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BobBalloh god19:21
BobBalldon't bother19:21
BobBallI see the problem19:21
bigmstone?19:21
BobBallSo - host aggregates do not work in Grizzly!19:21
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BobBallhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2013.1.3/nova/virt/xenapi/driver.py#L632 uses _virtapi but it's only set 3 lines later in the function19:22
BobBallhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2013.1.3/nova/virt/xenapi/driver.py#L664 is where it's used19:22
BobBallclearly something changed that broke it19:22
BobBallwe can fix that problem _very_ easily19:22
BobBallif you're happy to edit your nova code, move the line shown at https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2013.1.3/nova/virt/xenapi/driver.py#L635 to the top of the function (just below import XenAPI)19:23
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BobBallbut I suspect that this will just move on to another aggregate problem...19:23
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BobBallsince it's clear it's not been tested in that version of Grizzl19:23
BobBallGrizzly*19:23
bigmstoneWe'll see.19:23
bigmstonelol if that fixes it, by the way.19:24
BobBallI'm confident it'll fix _that_ problem :)19:24
bigmstoneheh. Yeah. That's a fix I can roll with in production.19:24
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BobBallif that's all that's needed...19:25
bknudsonFor requirements.txt, could we remove things that are actually optional (depending on the config, which the Identity backend is config'd)?19:26
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mordredbknudson: depends, got an example?19:36
bknudsonmordred: keystone has pam listed in requirements.txt... probably only used if set identity to pam19:37
mordreddolphm_, ayoung, bknudson, morganfainberg: this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48988/ and the two before it in the chain would be really handy to land19:37
bknudsonwe moved oauth into test-requirements because it was optional.19:37
mordredbknudson: yeah. I think that seems like a fair enough choice19:37
dolphm_bknudson: +1 for test-requirements19:37
dolphm_mordred: land for rc1?19:38
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dolphm_mordred: or just in general19:38
mordreddolphm_: yes please. my goal is to get rid of d2to1 everywhere19:38
mordredbefore we release havana19:38
bknudsonmordred: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47942/1, I asked why "install_command = pip install {opts} {packages}" didn't use -U like in nova19:38
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mordredbknudson: we only use -U in nova because site-packages = True is set19:39
mordredbknudson: in other places, it can have strange knock-on effects that are hard to reason about19:39
morganfainbergmordred, that seems reasonable then.19:39
mordredbknudson: and what I mean by that, is that adding -U would change the final set of depends you'd wind up, possibly past a pin19:40
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bknudsonmordred: ok, just wanted to know if it was an oversight or deliberate.19:41
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BobBallbigmstone: I've got to go - leave me a message about whether it works or not!19:45
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bigmstoneBobBall: will do.19:46
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dolphm_mordred: none of these patches have bug references to track against RC1 (which i'd like to cut today)20:00
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sgranI'm looking at keystone/common/cache/core.py20:01
sgranit looks like it makes it impossible to use a memcached backend split across several machines20:01
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sgranthat seems like a poor design choice to me, but it seems deliberate, so I wanted to ask before trying to patch around it20:02
sgrananyone know anything about it?20:02
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mordreddolphm_: you want me to make one?20:03
dolphm_mordred: please, if there's not one already20:03
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dstanekthe general style is that only modules are imported...has that swayed at all with the move to testr and using matchers?20:07
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mordreddolphm_: made bugs, updated commit messages, re-submited patches20:10
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Javin@bnemec What distribution did you use to test the 'ip' command change in the packstack code change here:    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48386/20:18
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JavinThe command works fine on el5/el6/fc1920:19
bnemecJavin: My Fedora 19 box with OpenStack installed via Packstack.20:19
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bnemecJavin: Somehow I ended up with the same IP assigned to both br-ex and em1.20:22
bnemecWhich is odd because I think only br-ex had an address after I did the network configuration for Neutron.20:22
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Javinbnemec: That is very strange. I just tested it on F19 with no problem….Hmmm. Would you mind sending me the output you get from the initial command just run on in the shell (where you said you got two lines back)?20:24
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dolphm_mordred: danke!20:26
bnemecJavin: Sure.  This is what I get: http://paste.openstack.org/show/47725/20:27
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Javin@bnemec Yep. That output is a problem, but I was only expecting the IP to be on one interface. Is it normal for that not to be the case? Or is there something else going on here?20:34
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bnemecJavin: I really don't know.  This is the first time I've ever successfully configured networking on an OpenStack installation so I have no idea whether it's normal. :-)20:36
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ayoungshardy, did you see ttx'x response on that report.  He's dead on.  I don't care if the tempest tests pass yet.  What I want is to have them submitted for now, and optional20:53
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ayoungBut as far as tests...20:54
ayounglet me see20:54
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shardyayoung: Ok, I'm happy to submit a test, I just don't have much tempest experience so an example of a similar change would be most helpful :)20:57
ayoungshardy, I'm kindof clueless myself.20:58
ayoungshardy, but20:58
ayoungshardy,   there are references http://paste.fedoraproject.org/43222/0574738120:59
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shardyayoung: Ok, I'll look into adding a test tomorrow, thanks21:00
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ayoungshardy, thanks.  we have some tests inside of the keystone project itself, but that is a whole nother chicken-egg problem.  Best to test these things in tempest.  We might be moving our client tests to tempest ourselves21:01
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shardyayoung: FYI the Icehouse plan is to move heat to v3 only client (which will require porting ec2tokens to v3)21:01
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Javin@bnemec ok. thanks21:02
ayoungshardy, that sounds like a decent plan.21:02
dolphm_mordred: of the 3, i assume this is the patch you care most about landing in RC1? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48988/21:02
shardyayoung: I've offered to take a look at the ec2tokens stuff, but really we need a way to make trusts play with v2 or Heat trusts support will be broken for Havana :(21:02
mordreddolphm_: how'd you guess? :)21:02
bnemecJavin: FWIW, I fiddled around with it a little and was able to drop the IP from em1, but when I run dhclient on br-ex to get an IP it also assigns it to the em1 interface.21:03
dolphm_mordred: does it need to be in sequence with the other two?21:03
shardyayoung: Hence my keystoneclient patch, sorry it's all so late..21:03
ayoungshardy, NP...I know you guys have a lot going on21:03
mordreddolphm_: probably not. want me to rebase it?21:03
dolphm_mordred: it would certainly get in faster that way21:03
mordreddolphm_: done!21:04
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mordreddolphm_: btw - I left test-requirements.txt un-synced21:04
thingeesdague: ping21:04
dolphm_mordred: ack21:04
mordreddolphm_: because webtest21:04
dolphm_mordred: wait, what about webtest?21:04
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mordredI'd _LOVE_ to get that fixed before final release, because in a world of magical ponies, it would be great if all of the projects were totally in sync with the global reqs at release time21:05
dolphm_bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48988/21:05
mordreddolphm_: the keystone version of webtest is out of sync with global, and apparently incompat21:05
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mordreddolphm_: http://logs.openstack.org/88/48988/1/check/gate-keystone-python27/f17edf7/nose_results.html21:05
mordredfor an example of when I included syncing the test-requirements.txt21:06
bknudsonwe just did webtest.21:06
mordredyou did? maybe I missed a merge window...21:06
* mordred goes to investigate21:06
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Javinbnemec: How was your network setup before you ran packstack? Just em1 with a dynamic address?21:07
bknudsonI mean the changes to do webtest in Keystone were pretty recent.21:07
bnemecJavin: Right.21:07
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bnemecThen I followed the instructions here http://openstack.redhat.com/Networking to set up the bridge.21:07
mordredbknudson: keystone has webtest - global reuqirements has WebTest==1.3.321:07
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bknudsonkeystone is newer or older?21:08
mordredbknudson: newer21:08
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mordredsdague: ^^ around? thoughts?21:09
dolphm_and latest is 2.x.x?21:09
mordredyah21:09
mordred2.0.921:09
* mordred is THRILLED, btw :)21:09
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mordreduhm21:10
mordredI think you guys get to win21:10
mordredthere are three projects using webtest21:10
mordredkeystone, neutron and ironic21:10
Javinbnemec: Ok. Are you using Havana and neutron?        I've been using this method mostly for networking: http://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_with_existing_external_network    (replace quantum with neutron in the command examples)21:10
mordredironic has the pin, neither neutron nor keystone doe21:10
mordreddo21:10
mordredso I'm going to suggest we remove hte pin in openstack/requirements21:11
dolphm_yay21:11
bknudsonmordred: why is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48988/4/setup.py different than https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/setup.py21:11
bknudsonrequirements has pbr>0.5.21,<1.021:11
bnemecJavin: Yep, Havana and Neutron.21:11
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Javinbnemec: Ok. Will see if I can reproduce it.21:13
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mordredbknudson: we don't sync the setup.py file from requirements. update.py in openstack/requirements has an embedded file text21:13
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bnemecJavin: Sounds good, thanks21:14
mordredbknudson: although, that split was done for hysterical raisins, so I think I can unify that next cycle pretty easily21:14
mordredbknudson: for now, the file in keystone is the correct file21:14
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bknudsonmordred: ok, thanks21:15
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mordredbknudson: actually, https://review.openstack.org/49059 there you go :)21:16
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bigmstoneIs the nova master branch the current Havana working branch?21:19
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morganfainbergdolphm_, did you want to yank the per-domain-id docs for H?21:22
morganfainbergdolphm_, i am sure i wont have time to get any cleanup in prior to RC21:22
morganfainbergdolphm_, i am unsure i am even comfortable calling it "expirimental"21:22
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dolphm_morganfainberg: this? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configuration.html#domain-specific-drivers21:23
morganfainbergyeah21:23
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morganfainbergdolphm_, commit just yanking those docs and then a revert as soon as I opens?21:24
dolphm_morganfainberg: realistically, how many people are going to look at the docs in a stable branch?21:24
mordreddolphm_: you mind me updating that requirements change to sync test-requirements too (with the webtest pin removed) and seeing how that goes?21:24
mordreddolphm_: llike, what's your eta on the RC, can I iterate on this a little more?21:25
dolphm_morganfainberg: i'd rather just leave that warning on keystone.openstack.org until icehouse+121:25
dolphm_mordred: ETA is as soon as your patch lands :)21:25
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mordreddolphm_: awesome21:26
dolphm_mordred: your other two patches are gating, but i'm not considering them RC blockers21:26
dolphm_mordred: and i have one other patch in gating that's an RC blocker21:26
mordredooh. actually ...21:27
mordreddolphm_: you wanna be a guinea pig?21:27
dolphm_mordred: normally i would say yes21:27
dolphm_mordred: but maybe i should wait for icehouse lol21:27
dolphm_mordred: why?21:27
mordreddolphm_: when we land the WebTest change to requirements, it's gonna trigger for the first time the magical "propose patches to project automatically" code ...21:27
mordredso jenkins is going to propose a sync patch all by itself21:28
dolphm_mordred: interesting...21:28
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dolphm_mordred: so changes to openstack/requirements will be automatically proposed against consuming projects?21:28
mordreddolphm_: yes. we just landed the change for that today21:29
mordredwe're hoping that as we move into the next cycle, it can help us stay in sync21:29
mordreddolphm_: but it'll work like the translations patches21:29
mordredyou can ignore it, and it'll update the old patch if it needs to make a new one21:29
mordredbut there will at least always be a nag that something needs doing21:29
mordredin theory21:29
dolphm_mordred: cool!21:30
dolphm_mordred: that doesn't sound dangerous21:30
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mordrednah. should be fine. and we have to wait for the req change to merge anyway for the gate21:30
icchaanteaya: around?21:30
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anteayayes21:31
icchais the image created for the workshop openstack avaialble online for downloaad? anteaya21:31
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anteayaiccha: good question21:32
anteayaRyan_Lane: is your image that you created for the Codechix workshop available online?21:33
icchadoing a workshop with annegentle and we re using cloud servers, but thought it might be a good option to have a backup anteaya21:33
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anteayaiccha: great idea21:34
anteayabe aware the image only works for virtualbox, there were errors when trying to use it with vmware21:35
anteayaalso have a 32bit option for those on a 32bit OS or if they dont' have 64bit virtualization enabled in their bios21:35
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Ryan_Laneanteaya: yes, but I'd prefer it not be a normal spot to download them ;)21:37
Ryan_Laneit's on my cloud controller. I'd prefer not to saturate its link21:37
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clarkbanteaya: you could swift it21:38
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clarkb(maybe, not sure what sort of licensing issues come up in that case)21:38
icchaanteaya: Ryan_Lane hmmm so participants will still need to download virtual box. not sure if thats the best back up then21:38
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icchaclarkb: haha like the swift it21:39
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anteayaI should swift it, yet another thing to swift21:40
anteayanotmyname: when are you holding swiftcamp, so I can learn how to swift all the things21:40
pleia2the images are also something you need to update often, so those images aren't really great to use anymore anyway21:40
pleia2better to publish instructions on how to make them yourself21:40
anteayait is tough but then you get into packaging21:41
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anteayaI respect zul to much to get into packaging21:41
anteaya*too21:41
sdaguesorry, pong, whats' up?21:41
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icchapleia2: anteaya any other ideas for backup incase articpants dont have internet to access cloud servers with devstack21:42
icchapleia2: anteaya also any lessons learnt in the workshop worth sharing?21:42
pleia2iccha: we had a list of prerequisites so folks knew they needed virtualbox coming in, didn't need to download more21:43
pleia2iccha: have at least 1 person who can debug per 15 attendees - we had 3 of us for 50 attendees and were kept busy21:43
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pleia2odd networing issues, hardware issues, etc21:44
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pleia2even with an image it wasn't all smoothless :) but it went pretty well21:44
pleia2err, smooth21:44
pleia2seamless? words are hard21:44
icchahehe i get ya21:44
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pleia2we also created the image with 1G ram allocated for the VM, but told people to increase that in virtualbox if they had enough RAM on their laptop (1G makes devstack crawl, but a lot of folks don't have much ram on laptops)21:46
anteayaensure there are enough power outlets for all the participants21:46
pleia2hah, yeah, we had to do a store run for power cables21:46
icchaoh no!21:46
anteayaand make them plug in at the beginning so you don't have to do a game of muscial chairs halfway through21:46
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icchahehe sounds like it was a fun workshop21:47
anteayathey will be convinced they can run off battery21:47
anteayauntil they can't21:47
anteayait went well21:47
anteayawe just did a lot of dancing21:47
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pleia2oh, and next time I'd definitely have more exercises for folks to do if everything goes smoothly, there was a lot of waiting time while we ran around and did debugging for everyone else21:48
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pleia2and I still owe attendees a "now what" email with some ideas for how to learn more about openstack on their own21:48
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anteayaiccha: the other thing I would use personally would be vagrant, but it still requires virtualbox behind it21:53
anteayaplus vagrant itself21:53
anteayaso you aren't saving yourself any downloads21:53
russellbif you're going to use vagrant, use vagrant on top of openstack :)21:55
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dolphm_mordred: just started a recheck on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48988/ -- want to kill that and add test-requirements, or wait for the openstack/requirements trigger?22:04
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mordreddolphm_: wanna wait and see how it goes22:08
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dolphm_mordred: k22:12
dolphm_mordred: since i have you here and this is your change... it obviously failed on a transient, but otherwise would have been successful. safe to send to gating, or rerun check until it's green?22:13
dolphm_normally i'd recheck until green, but, rc1.22:13
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icchahehe good one russellb22:17
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annegentleanteaya: would LOVE a copy of that virtualbox image for devstack for Grace Hopper... just spun up 16 cloud servers so we should be okay but I like local backup too22:24
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anteayaannegentle: Ryan_Lane is the man with the image22:24
annegentleRyan_Lane: you're the man with the image22:24
annegentleanteaya: hee22:25
anteayato be honest, I don't even think I ended up with a copy of the image we went with for the workshop22:25
annegentleanteaya: thanks22:25
anteayanp22:25
anteayathe Grace Hopper workshop will be awesome22:25
anteayathose attendees don't know how lucky they are22:25
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annegentleanteaya: very excited about it, thanks for the pointers. We managed to get 4 TAs for 18 participants, wanted to get 2 more TAs22:26
anteayaawesome22:26
anteayayes22:26
anteayathe wider the spectrum of experience in attendees the more TAs22:26
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anteaya1 TA for 3 attendees will be wonderful22:27
annegentleyeah I think we'll have a large range of interests, experience levels, many are from OpenStack member companies already22:27
anteayacool22:27
anteayahow much time do you have for the workshop?22:27
annegentleit's 10-5 (long time!)22:27
anteayaoh yes22:27
anteayaif you haven't discussed it already, I'd recommend taking turns at the front between you and iccha22:28
annegentleI hope we have enough to keep them busy22:28
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anteayaso you each have a chance to rest22:28
anteayayes, it will be a challenge22:28
annegentleheh22:28
annegentleI figure it's probably a "my flight leaves at 2" sort of day22:28
anteayawe were also limited by hardware too22:28
annegentlebut who knows22:28
anteayasome folks had great hardware22:28
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anteayaand one person had a very old laptop, horizon kept timing out, so we had to use the command line with here22:29
anteayaher22:29
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anteayayeah, who knows22:29
anteayaapparently if you ask horizon to create a vm, if the hardware can't do it fast enough, horizon returns an error22:30
anteayait was an non-specific error, something like "there was an error, try again later" or something like that22:31
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jamielennoxayoung: you want me to take over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40013/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39405 ? I'm going to be the first to need them anyway23:32
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