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| zyluo | gongysh, ping | 03:15 |
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| zyluo | gongysh, is haomai in office? I have a question about his patch | 03:15 |
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| gongysh | zyluo he will contact u later. | 03:21 |
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| haomaiwang | ping zyluo | 03:23 |
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| zyluo | haomaiwang, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36042/24/nova/virt/images.py | 03:25 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, in this patch should it be | 03:25 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, if not os.path.exists(path) OR CONF.libvirt_images_type != 'rbd': | 03:25 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, instead of 'and' ? | 03:25 |
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| zyluo | haomaiwang, 'and' doesn't seem to make sense because it should satisfy the condition even when os.path.exists is false | 03:27 |
| haomaiwang | zyluo: Yes, it may wrong. Let me think more.. | 03:29 |
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| haomaiwang | zyluo: Hmm, the origin should be right. If “OR” and CONF.libvirt_images_type =='raw', qemue_img_info will always return QemuInfo() | 03:36 |
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| zyluo | So if CONF.libvirt_images_type =='rbd' and path doesn't exist it should also return QemuInfo()? | 03:42 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, I'm sorry typo | 03:43 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, if CONF.libvirt_images_type =='rbd' and path doesn't exist it should not return QemuInfo()? | 03:43 |
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| haomaiwang | zyluo: Hmm, the true statement maybe "if CONF.libvirt_images_type == 'rbd': return QemuInfo() if not os.path.exists(path): return Qemuinfo()" | 03:46 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, that's the same as using the 'or' operator, isn't it? | 03:47 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, oh it's not | 03:47 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, yeah it should be like that. | 03:47 |
| haomaiwang | zyluo: if not os.path.exists(path) OR CONF.libvirt_images_type == 'rbd' | 03:47 |
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| haomaiwang | zyluo: yes | 03:48 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, yes like that | 03:48 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, the != should be == with an 'or' operator | 03:48 |
| haomaiwang | zyluo: right | 03:49 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, you have time for the patch? | 03:49 |
| haomaiwang | zyluo: OK, I will do it right now. | 03:49 |
| zyluo | haomaiwang, thanks | 03:49 |
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| zyluo | haomaiwang, it would be nice to have test cases in nova/tests/virt/test_images.py | 03:51 |
| haomaiwang | zyluo: OK | 03:51 |
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| haomaiwang | zyluo: It seemed we can remove "and CONF.libvirt_images_type == 'rbd' ", because "path" is always not exists when rbd type | 03:59 |
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| haomaiwang | zyluo: And in practice, this function will not used by 'rbd' type. So we still not meet problem when using it. | 04:01 |
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| zyluo | haomaiwang, removing that part sounds good also. | 04:07 |
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| ekarlso | anyone here familiar with the code in oslo incubator apiclient ? | 06:55 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, mrunge, could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48297/ ? | 09:32 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, will do. I assume, david-lyle will be here in about 7 hrs (or so) | 09:33 |
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| ekarlso | ttx: would it be a bad idea with a oslo.client library ? | 09:37 |
| ttx | ekarlso: missing context. What would ? | 09:37 |
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| ekarlso | the oslo-incubator/cliutils and apiclient code | 09:38 |
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| ttx | ekarlso: you're asking if it would be a good idea to make it an independent library ? | 09:39 |
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| ekarlso | sorry for the confusion, indeed ttx ! | 09:39 |
| ttx | ekarlso: if it was a bad idea, then it would have nothing to do in oslo-incubator in the first place. The goal is always to make them independent libraries. When they mature and have their API stable. | 09:39 |
| ekarlso | I thought there was a discussion recently to create them as independant libraries from the getgo to avoid code copy | 09:41 |
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| ttx | ekarlso: haven't followed that discussion. You should ask markmc or dhellmann about it | 09:42 |
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| ekarlso | ttx: ok :) | 09:44 |
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| PerumalV | Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii | 09:47 |
| PerumalV | https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 09:47 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:47 |
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| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me outHi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have a | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
| PerumalV | Hi Do you have get success with multinode installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst I have an issue like VM not getting IP address, can you please help me out | 09:54 |
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| waverider | hello | 10:10 |
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| waverider | I am trying to use django_openstack_auth and I get this error after I fill in a good user and password: <openstack_auth.user.Token object at 0x0000000003B41048> is not JSON serializable | 10:10 |
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| jpich | waverider: That's the first time I see this, not sure what it could be. Consider filing a bug with as much background information as possible + useful bits of logs (tracebacks etc) at https://bugs.launchpad.net/django-openstack-auth | 10:15 |
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| tsufiev | mrunge, thanks! | 10:17 |
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| dsantos_ | hi everyone, how can I set nova to use neutron instead of nova-network and how can I verify which network API nova is using? I saw that I can change the field 'network_driver' in the nova.conf file and I can get cfg.CONF.network_manager in the code... | 14:12 |
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| ttx | OK everyone, it's out | 14:25 |
| dolphm | like, havana? | 14:26 |
| ttx | dolphm: like, yes | 14:27 |
| dolphm | woo, i see it | 14:27 |
| ttx | dolphm: you were a bit away, I had to emulate your signoff | 14:27 |
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| dolphm | i slept in | 14:27 |
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| ttx | I'm going to sleep 48 hours straight now | 14:28 |
| * dolphm salutes ttx | 14:28 | |
| ttx | hub_cap: may I push Trove 2013.2 now ? | 14:28 |
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| pleia2 | ttx: woohoo, congrats (and sleep well :)) | 14:30 |
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| esheffield | russellb: hey, this bp just got moved to icehouse - can you take a look and approve it? | 14:54 |
| esheffield | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-glance-v2-api | 14:54 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: ping | 15:31 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: pong | 15:31 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: should an admin be able to the the same resource i'm using for bp v3-user-update-own-password to change a user's password? | 15:32 |
| dolphm | dstanek: that would be up to policy... but i don't see why not | 15:33 |
| dolphm | dstanek: assuming they wanted to bother providing the user's existing password | 15:33 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: so it should be at lease possible then - i dont' think that works in the code i stole from v2 | 15:33 |
| dolphm | dstanek: what does v2 do to prevent that?? | 15:34 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: erm... is it using the user's token as context? | 15:34 |
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| dstanek | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/contrib/user_crud/core.py#n57 | 15:35 |
| dstanek | dolphm: ^ | 15:35 |
| dolphm | dstanek: well, we didn't have RBAC when that was written | 15:36 |
| dstanek | dolphm: but the policy should handle that for me right? | 15:36 |
| dolphm | dstanek: yes | 15:36 |
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| wink | rubberduck debugging at its best. I joined, typed my problem that's plagued me a few days, tried it one last time before hitting enter and it works. Thanks, guys :) | 15:39 |
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| dolphm | wink: happy to help! | 15:41 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: ok, i had a test for using the wrong token, but i don't need it anymore :) | 15:43 |
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| alexpilotti | dhellmann: hi | 16:03 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: https://review.openstack.org/52448; i have the code ready to support this, but i wanted to see if you have feedback on this first | 16:42 |
| dolphm | dstanek: looking | 16:42 |
| dstanek | dolphm: super trivial | 16:42 |
| dolphm | dstanek: just drop change_ from the URL? | 16:43 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: i put that in there in hopes of later adding a GET that gets the "form"; the way i'm thinkin of password isn't like it's a crud resource | 16:44 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: i could see a use case for DELETE /users/{user_id}/password | 16:45 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: which would make no sense with /change_password | 16:45 |
| dstanek | dolphm: wound't you still need the original password to do that? | 16:46 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: it if not maybe it's a separate admin resource | 16:46 |
| dolphm | dstanek: probably so... i guess you could just PATCH the base user with null | 16:46 |
| dstanek | dolphm: errr...that should have started 'or if not' | 16:47 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: also you have a question in a comment asking why a user needs to be enabled to have the password updated | 16:51 |
| dstanek | dolphm: is that still a usecase we want to have? | 16:51 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: i don't think your code needs to worry about that | 16:51 |
| dolphm | dstanek: if the user is disabled, they won't be able to get a token to change their password | 16:52 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: unless the use case was concerned with an admin changing a disabled user's password? | 16:52 |
| dstanek | dolphm: it's in part of the code i stole; they could have a token, get their account disabled and try to change it | 16:53 |
| dstanek | dolphm: i don't think so because admins couldn't change passwords with this code | 16:53 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: if their account is disabled, their token should be immediately revoked as well | 16:54 |
| dstanek | dolphm: is the a disable user api call that does that? | 16:54 |
| dolphm | dstanek: PATCH /v3/users {"user": {"enabled": false}} | 16:54 |
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| dolphm | PATCH /v3/users/{user_id} {"user": {"enabled": false}} | 16:55 |
| ekarlso | dolphm: or ayoung you guys know the status of the auth plugins stuff? | 16:55 |
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| dolphm | ekarlso: can you be more specific? | 16:55 |
| dolphm | there's a lot of auth and a lot of it is pluggable :) | 16:56 |
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| ekarlso | client / apiclient | 16:57 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: i don't think that's working :-) | 16:58 |
| dstanek | fg | 16:58 |
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| ekarlso | dstanek: ah, there you are ;p | 16:59 |
| ekarlso | you got a clue on that maybe? | 16:59 |
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| dstanek | ekarlso: i'm back! | 16:59 |
| ekarlso | i mean the keystoneclient authplugin stuff and oslo apiclient | 16:59 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: nm, i need to do more research after lunch | 16:59 |
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| ayoung | ekarlso, look at jamielennox|away 's patches | 17:02 |
| ayoung | ekarlso, there is real nastiness in the client....huge parameter lists the look like they should be only called using named parameters...but...can we blindly rearrange the order? | 17:02 |
| ayoung | tis fugly | 17:02 |
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| iccha_ | russellb: around? | 17:43 |
| russellb | yes | 17:43 |
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| esheffield | hey russellb - since iccha_ got your attention ;-) | 17:50 |
| esheffield | would you mind taking a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-glance-v2-api | 17:50 |
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| clarkb | esheffield: any luck with those test failures? | 17:52 |
| russellb | esheffield: why a config option? why not automatic discovery and use the API that is available? | 17:52 |
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| iccha_ | russellb: if both v2 and v1 are available then what happens? | 17:53 |
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| iccha_ | we want the deployer to be able to pick | 17:53 |
| russellb | pick one | 17:53 |
| russellb | why? | 17:53 |
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| esheffield | clarkb: well, I tried another recheck and it worked without my changing anything | 17:54 |
| iccha_ | say i have a public facing glance node and an internal one interfacing nova then i want both to run on same version | 17:54 |
| iccha_ | russellb: ^ | 17:54 |
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| russellb | so only expose the API you want to use then? | 17:54 |
| SpamapS | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51736/ .. any tempest cores around that can review this tiny patch? | 17:54 |
| iccha_ | yes as a deployer i want to be able to specify that | 17:55 |
| SpamapS | nearly 3 days without a core review. | 17:55 |
| esheffield | russellb: do other systems auto discover? | 17:55 |
| russellb | deploy so that nova only sees one API then | 17:55 |
| clarkb | esheffield: the tests are still broken :) | 17:55 |
| iccha_ | i gotta run, will let yall continue the conversation.. | 17:55 |
| russellb | esheffield: not many cases of supporting more than one api | 17:55 |
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| russellb | so i'm trying to figure out the best way to do it | 17:55 |
| clarkb | unless someone fixed them out of band, they probably passed due to the luck of the draw in test partitioning... | 17:56 |
| russellb | and config options are evil | 17:56 |
| jog0 | I agree with russellb , in general I don't like more config options | 17:56 |
| russellb | iccha_: we can continue on the ML | 17:56 |
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| SpamapS | esheffield: Indeed, Heat auto discovers all endpoints via keystone. | 17:56 |
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| iccha_ | sounds good russellb | 17:56 |
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| russellb | iccha_: want to start the thread or shall I? | 17:56 |
| russellb | or esheffield | 17:57 |
| iccha_ | go for it russellb/ esheffield | 17:57 |
| SpamapS | config options are for things that may vary from machine to machine. For "what API to use" that is a service configuration and thus belongs either in the service itself by way of interrogation, or in keystone. | 17:57 |
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| russellb | SpamapS: +1 | 17:58 |
| ekarlso | ayoung: paramter lists ? | 17:58 |
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| russellb | iccha_: esheffield posted to the ML | 18:01 |
| esheffield | russellb: sounds good, thanks | 18:01 |
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| dolphm | SpamapS: is temptest excluded from jenkin's new auto-proposal of revised global requirements? | 18:03 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: why do you have to remind me about my client work | 18:06 |
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| SpamapS | dolphm: hm, perhaps! | 18:07 |
| SpamapS | mordred: "< dolphm> SpamapS: is temptest excluded from jenkin's new auto-proposal of revised global requirements?" | 18:07 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: it has not opted in | 18:08 |
| ayoung | ekarlso, yeah, there are a couple of __init__ functions that are huge...I'll link | 18:08 |
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| SpamapS | dolphm: ^^ so tempest is apparently not asking for those updates :) | 18:11 |
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| jog0 | any neutron folks around? | 18:14 |
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| cfriesen__ | it appears that doing a suspend/pause/stop on an instance doesn't seem to affect the resources that openstack thinks it has available on that compute node....so what's the point of having these three separate options? When would a user use "suspend" instead of "pause"? | 18:16 |
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| SpamapS | cfriesen__: just guessing.. but perhaps suspend actually tells the box that it should suspend to RAM, whereas PAUSE just does a hypervisor pause. | 18:23 |
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| SpamapS | cfriesen__: looking at the virt drivers, pause (confusingly) does a libvirt suspend, whereas suspend oes a managedSave. | 18:24 |
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| cfriesen__ | suspend is supposed to suspend the instance and save the whole thing to disk with no kvm/qemu process running. But from a resource management perspective nova still considers that instance to be "using" the configured cpus/ram/disk/etc. so what's the point? Why would a user ever do a suspend? | 18:25 |
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| cfriesen__ | it would make sense if openstack freed up the resources on a suspend (and so the user got charged less) | 18:26 |
| cfriesen__ | but it doesn't seem to do that | 18:26 |
| SpamapS | cfriesen__: well if the resources aren't reserved, then the server cannot be resumed. | 18:27 |
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| SpamapS | cfriesen__: so to allow it to give up the resources, you'd need to have the ability to resume it somewhere else. | 18:28 |
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| cfriesen__ | okay...but then why would you ever do a suspend? "pause" lets you stop processing temporarily, and "stop" lets you reboot. what's the point of suspend? | 18:28 |
| SpamapS | cfriesen__: overcommit | 18:29 |
| SpamapS | you do take pressure off overcommited resources | 18:29 |
| cfriesen__ | might make sense for a private cloud, but as an end user of a public cloud it makes no sense | 18:30 |
| SpamapS | depends on how billing is done | 18:30 |
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| SpamapS | you might get some price break for suspended servers | 18:31 |
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| cfriesen__ | okay, fair enough | 18:31 |
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| ivoks | um | 18:32 |
| ivoks | unit tests fail in havana | 18:33 |
| ivoks | there's a problem with python six module | 18:33 |
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| clarkb | ivoks: yes, dhellmann and dansmith are fixing it | 18:34 |
| ivoks | ah, ok | 18:34 |
| ivoks | clarkb: thanks | 18:34 |
| dhellmann | ivoks: https://review.openstack.org/52466 | 18:34 |
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| ivoks | dhellmann: looks about right | 18:35 |
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| ivoks | dhellmann: actually, it's not :) | 18:42 |
| dhellmann | ivoks: no? | 18:43 |
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| ivoks | dhellmann: i might be wrong (quite late here), so give me few more minutes to recheck | 18:43 |
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| dhellmann | ivoks: ok, still waiting for the test run, too | 18:44 |
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| stevemar | bknudson: thanks for the suggestion for the notification tests (pulling the asserts out of the fake notify) | 18:48 |
| stevemar | bknudson: it looks super clean now | 18:48 |
| bknudson | stevemar: did you look at mox? | 18:49 |
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| bknudson | it seems to do what this is doing... tell it what calls are expected to be made and then makes sure that those calls are made | 18:49 |
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| stevemar | bknudson, i've used it before, but not for this instance in particular | 18:49 |
| stevemar | bknudson, so you're thinking that i could remove the fake_notify altogether? | 18:50 |
| stevemar | if i went the mox path | 18:50 |
| bknudson | I think so. | 18:50 |
| stevemar | bknudson, i think the original author for domain notifications is awol | 18:51 |
| haneef_ | stevemar: In oauth, create request token is called for a project_id. How does the consumer get the project_id?. In the review you mentioned it is out of bound. Do you expect the consumer to implement some api? | 18:51 |
| stevemar | bknudson, i'll pick up that work, and when i do the tests, i'll take a look at mox | 18:51 |
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| stevemar | haneef_, in short - yes | 18:52 |
| haneef_ | stevemar: If it is one project_id, then we can configure it, if is 100s of tenantId, how to do that? | 18:52 |
| bknudson | stevemar: also, I think there's a notifications driver for testing that records in memory | 18:52 |
| bknudson | which might be a better option than a mock since could use more of the notifications code | 18:53 |
| stevemar | haneef_, 100s of delegations... | 18:53 |
| ivoks | dhellmann: it is ok | 18:53 |
| stevemar | haneef, if there is a real use case, i have a summit session for future oauth work, add it there | 18:54 |
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| stevemar | haneef_, currently, it's just 1 project, multiple roles, if the consumer is already making an api, then it'll be easy enough to go through a list of projects | 18:55 |
| stevemar | haneef__ #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/52 | 18:55 |
| haneef_ | stevemar: One more question, if there are many consumer ( swift, heat, nova, trove). Do we want each one of them to implement in proprietary way, or keystone is going to suggest an api that should be implemented by service team to use oauth. I will also add my questions in summit session | 18:55 |
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| stevemar | haneef_, so far we have no plans of suggesting an api, the last thing I have left to do is to add oauth support for keystoneclient, which should make things easier (i think) | 18:57 |
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| haneef_ | stevemar: Real use case is heat template. We can create a template for many user, and a user can be associated with many tenant. So basically consumer needs to deal with many tenants and consumer should somehow get the tenantid from the user | 18:59 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, dolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48524/8 | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, oh hi | 19:20 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, howdy sir | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, how goes? | 19:20 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, not bad, just trying to get that patch through :) | 19:21 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, then changes to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51980/2 will come | 19:21 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar oh let me -2 it then! that helps right? (in all seriousness, looking at it now) | 19:21 |
| stevemar | hehehe | 19:21 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, yeah that looks good. i can't find any reason to -1 it ;) | 19:22 |
| stevemar | good enough! | 19:22 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, i figure if it passes the brant test, it's good enough :P | 19:23 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, "domains" isn't in the .rst! | 19:23 |
| morganfainberg | :P | 19:23 |
| morganfainberg | do we actually notify for domains? *checks* | 19:23 |
| stevemar | no | 19:23 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg there was a patch for that, but it went abandoned | 19:23 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, then i have a NIT, your commit message says we notify for domains | 19:24 |
| morganfainberg | :P | 19:24 |
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| morganfainberg | (no no i wont' -1 for that) | 19:24 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg :O oh snap | 19:24 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, i'll pickup the domain one in a bit | 19:25 |
| russellb | everyone should retweet this to give ttx some love for release day! https://twitter.com/russellbryant/status/390919925893566464 | 19:25 |
| russellb | :) | 19:25 |
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| stevemar | russellb, done! | 19:26 |
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| morganfainberg | russellb, done and done! ttx deserves some serious love. | 19:26 |
| russellb | thanks :) | 19:26 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, might want to wait on assignment cleanup (domain from identity_api to assignment_api) | 19:27 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, not sure how long it'll take to get the proposed cleanup patch through though | 19:27 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg - yeah, i figured it was going to be a while - that plus, there were other concerns .. let me dig em up | 19:28 |
| dims | russellb, +1 done | 19:28 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, and the per-domain-identity stuff makes it… interesting | 19:28 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg "it's also worth pointing out that this will NOT result in notifications being emitted for projects or users owned by the domain, which is a significant bug. further, there's no way for consumers to retrieve the list of projects/users owned by the domain after it's been deleted, for example" | 19:28 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, yep | 19:28 |
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| stevemar | i figure it's low enough priorty so we can wait and talk about at the summit ... | 19:29 |
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| dhellmann | is anyone with stable maint. commit available to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52466/ | 19:29 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, also depending on how the id federation talks go…it might change things some. | 19:30 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg - that will be a long talk | 19:30 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, yes it will. | 19:30 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg did you look at savaks api spec? | 19:31 |
| russellb | dhellmann: got it | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | russellb: thanks | 19:31 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51980/2 | 19:31 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, i've glanced at it | 19:31 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, im a fan | 19:31 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, i think it has a solid approach | 19:32 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, but i haven't done the deep-dive into it yet. | 19:32 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg - understandable | 19:32 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, do you understand the various actors involved on the SAML stuff? ken.ac.uk people have been on Federation for a long whiile now | 19:49 |
| stevemar | ayoung, read a lot about it other the last few days, but i'm no expert like they are | 19:49 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, so Federation is kindof where I see Keystone heading: instead of Keystone owning the user lists, it will consume them from remote sources. SAML is the most important protocol, but openid conmnect and others are there as well | 19:51 |
| ayoung | so the solution for SAML needs to be general enough to support many protocols. Your comment on the review was spot on | 19:51 |
| ayoung | I should bring the old reviews back to life for all of the various pieces, but I was hoping the origianl authors would do that | 19:51 |
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| ayoung | many of them have been abandoned | 19:52 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ i was really hoping the authors would do that | 19:52 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I see my role as the Shepherd....well, the Cat-herder really | 19:52 |
| stevemar | ayoung: i didn't even know there were other old reviews | 19:52 |
| ayoung | Nerf herder? | 19:52 |
| ayoung | Scruffy looking... | 19:52 |
| stevemar | cat herder | 19:52 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hehe | 19:52 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: i think you're right, it's going to be something that combines both approaches | 19:53 |
| ayoung | stevemar, the biggest thing is that the Kent folks had a review for a mappping bakcned. It defined "the attribute comes in like this and we transform it to that" very general | 19:53 |
| diogogmt | I'm trying to create a tenant using the REST api and it keeps giving me back a 4040 | 19:53 |
| ayoung | dchadwick wanted it to be how we did groups | 19:53 |
| diogogmt | I'm able to list the existing tenants, so I know it is not an authentication issue | 19:53 |
| ayoung | diogogmt, 404? | 19:53 |
| diogogmt | however, to create new tenants it keeps failling | 19:53 |
| ayoung | resource not available | 19:53 |
| ayoung | diogogmt, are you an admin user when you do this? | 19:54 |
| ayoung | Should be a 403 if you are not | 19:54 |
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| ayoung | diogogmt, v2 or v3 api? | 19:54 |
| diogogmt | I'm getting a token with the admin credentials | 19:54 |
| diogogmt | v2 | 19:54 |
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| diogogmt | ayoung: http://pastebin.com/k88tpwMn | 19:55 |
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| diogogmt | I'm following the API docs from here: http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-identity.html#identity | 19:56 |
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| ayoung | diogogmt, have you tried it from the CLI yet first? | 19:56 |
| diogogmt | ayoung: good point, I'll give it a try and see what happens | 19:56 |
| ayoung | diogogmt, then turn on debugging and see what it spits out | 19:56 |
| ayoung | --debug I think on the CLI | 19:57 |
| diogogmt | the openstack python cli? | 19:57 |
| diogogmt | I was using the nova and it gave every detail of the request | 19:57 |
| diogogmt | the openstack doesn;t | 19:57 |
| ayoung | diogogmt, keystone | 19:57 |
| diogogmt | is there an identity cli? | 19:57 |
| ayoung | keystone tenant-create IIRC | 19:57 |
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| diogogmt | ayoung: k, found the project on gh | 19:58 |
| * ayoung has trashed his system and can't check | 19:58 | |
| dolphm | diogogmt: github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient | 19:58 |
| stevemar | it should just be bundled into keystoneclient | 19:58 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, um... not python-keystoneclient? | 19:58 |
| stevemar | diogogmt: or as dolphm says, you can use openstackclient too | 19:58 |
| dolphm | diogogmt: reading back through logs... it looks like you're probably using port :5000 instead of :35357 | 19:59 |
| tsufiev_ | david-lyle, could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48297/ ? | 19:59 |
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| diogogmt | dolphm: I was connecting to 5000 to generate the token, isn't the same to manage tenants? | 20:00 |
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| diogogmt | both APIs are under the identity section on the API docs | 20:00 |
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| dolphm | diogogmt: the public API on port 5000 doesn't support admin operations, like "create tenant", that :35357 does | 20:00 |
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| diogogmt | dolphm: hmm, is there a way where all the services/ports are documented? | 20:01 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, can someone other than the origianl author bring an old review back from abandoned? | 20:01 |
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| diogogmt | btw, is there a possibility that the ports of the services change depending on the openstack deployment, or they are all the same? | 20:01 |
| ayoung | a bunch of the Federated/SAML/Mapping work needs people looking at it, and the coder that wrote it is gone for a couple more weeks | 20:02 |
| dolphm | diogogmt: that's deployment specific, and configured in keystone | 20:02 |
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| dolphm | diogogmt: :5000 and :35357 are just the defaults for keystone itself | 20:02 |
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| diogogmt | dolphm: so admin commands always go through 35357 and public commands on 5000? | 20:03 |
| dolphm | diogogmt: yes | 20:03 |
| dolphm | diogogmt: ... for the v2.0 API | 20:03 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, morganfainberg this is the starting point: we need an API that can define how to interpret a SAML assertion, and convert it into something that Keystone understands, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20331/4/openstack-identity-api/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md is probably the most | 20:05 |
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| diogogmt | dolphm: is it changing for the havana v3? | 20:07 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: complete your sentence :) | 20:07 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, it was IRC line truncation i would guess | 20:08 |
| dolphm | diogogmt: v3 was introduced in grizzly, but with regard to ports... v3 is simply deployed identically on both out of the box, so it doesn't matter | 20:08 |
| ayoung | I think that stevemar but that is just what they would be expecting me to do | 20:08 |
| stevemar | a course | 20:08 |
| dolphm | i think that stevemar too ++ | 20:08 |
| ayoung | stevemar, actually, it was an editing mistake. I should just chopped offf everything after the link | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | ah | 20:08 |
| diogogmt | dolphm: I'm a bit confuse now, on the horizon UI I can see the identity service listening on port 5000: http://10.40.36.50:5000/v2.0 | 20:08 |
| diogogmt | where did you find the 35357 port? | 20:09 |
| stevemar | ayoung: ahhh | 20:09 |
| dolphm | diogogmt: if you authenticate with keystone on port 5000, you'll get back a service catalog that includes a link to the :35357 endpoint | 20:09 |
| diogogmt | how can I find which APIs go on the 5000 and on the 35357? | 20:09 |
| morganfainberg | diogogmt, it is part of the catalog, the admin port for keystone. | 20:09 |
| ayoung | but the mapping thing is the common code needed first | 20:09 |
| diogogmt | dolphm: oh, ok, through the serviceCatlog | 20:09 |
| diogogmt | k, got it | 20:09 |
| diogogmt | thanks | 20:09 |
| stevemar | ayoung, oh you were linking an abandoned piece, i get ya | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | who is on the tempest core reviewer team? | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | It looks like tempest needs help. | 20:10 |
| ayoung | stevemar, so, say an assertion comes in with "group": "g1, g2, g2" and another has "g1": True "g2": True and both should map to the same group definition. | 20:10 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, out of curiosity… which port will we standardize on when we deprecate v2? | 20:10 |
| ayoung | it is a way to normalize the attributes from the origianal document, whether SAML assertion or other, to "user U in groups G1 G2 G3 " | 20:11 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, 5000 would be my pick. | 20:11 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ummmmmmmm | 20:11 |
| morganfainberg | (as the default that is) | 20:11 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, all ports but 443 | 20:11 |
| ayoung | :) | 20:11 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i like 5000 because it's public and such, but 35357 is IANA registered | 20:11 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ah | 20:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, LOL | 20:11 |
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| stevemar | ayoung, cool - let me read this over, at least twice... | 20:12 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i wrote a plugin for keystone that used SIGALRM for somethign… then i converted to httpd… and was sad the SIGALARM didn't work… go go reading docs on mod_wsgi *facepalm* | 20:13 |
| stevemar | ayoung: but, can't the idp specify a mapping file (or something to that degree?) | 20:13 |
| ayoung | stevemar, yeah. kwss is off until the 23rd, but if I can find a way to reactivate the review with the same change id I will | 20:13 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think you need to get the original owner to resurrect it | 20:13 |
| ayoung | stevemar, that is exactly what this API is for | 20:13 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, that is what I suspect as well. I might just resubmit it myself, then | 20:14 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i tried bringing back other reviews to keep the original changeid etc…gerrit told me to fly a kite. | 20:14 |
| ayoung | ttx, can someone other than the origianal submitter bring back a review from the abandoned state? | 20:14 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: at the end of the day, i think you should be able to work with just a hostname | 20:15 |
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| morganfainberg | mordred, clarkb, ^ (ayoung's question) | 20:15 |
| mordred | I didn't do it | 20:15 |
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| mordred | ayoung: anyone in infra can | 20:15 |
| ayoung | mordred, but you promised that you would!\ | 20:15 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, fair enough | 20:15 |
| mordred | ayoung: I lie a lot | 20:16 |
| ayoung | mordred, can you bring back https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20331/ then? | 20:16 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2782.txt ? | 20:16 |
| ayoung | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18280/ | 20:16 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, SRV record? | 20:16 |
| morganfainberg | really? | 20:16 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: mordred's idea ^ | 20:16 |
| morganfainberg | i guess that works. | 20:16 |
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| morganfainberg | ah | 20:16 |
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| mordred | ayoung: done | 20:17 |
| morganfainberg | i mean it works for jabber…. why not keystone | 20:17 |
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| morganfainberg | not a bad idea | 20:17 |
| mordred | ayoung: and done | 20:17 |
| mordred | +100 to SRV record | 20:17 |
| ayoung | dolphm, actually, just discussed something similiar to the SRV record wrt Kerberos. If you want to post an URL, it makes more sense to use a TXT record. If two endpoints for different services were going to share an HTTPD instance, SRV record wouldn't tell you what suburl to go to | 20:17 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: SRV could get a client to keystone given, say, rackspacecloud.com, where they can discover the rest of the cloud | 20:18 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, yep. | 20:18 |
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| ayoung | TXT record for https://id.rackspacecloud.com/ | 20:18 |
| ayoung | Or for | 20:18 |
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| ayoung | https://id.rackspacecloud.com/keystone/v3 | 20:19 |
| mordred | of course, there's always hesiod: | 20:19 |
| mordred | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesiod_%28name_service%29 | 20:19 |
| mordred | AND - hesiod and kerberos were both part of athena back in the day | 20:19 |
| stevemar | ayoung: i meant more like specifying a file, that has the mapping in there, thats not what is proposed | 20:21 |
| ayoung | mordred, that is pretty much the solution, yep | 20:21 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: #link http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v2r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.tivoli.fim.doc_6.2.1%2Fconcept%2FPlanningSAML2IdentityMapping.html | 20:21 |
| mordred | ayoung: yay! | 20:21 |
| ayoung | stevemar, yeah. Should be able to upload a mapping in bulk. | 20:21 |
| mordred | jeblair: ^^ ayoung is going to use hesiod! | 20:22 |
| ayoung | mordred, if by Hesiod you mean DNS, then yes. | 20:22 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: how familiar are you with this stuff? | 20:22 |
| ayoung | stevemar, I've been reading it for the past year +. So not very | 20:24 |
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| stevemar | lol | 20:24 |
| stevemar | ayoung: that beat my ~ 1 month | 20:24 |
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| ayoung | mordred, Kereos does this for the TCP version _kerberos-master._tcp SRV 0 100 88 dev but we were working on implementing the KDC HTTP proxy and that would not let us specify the suburl. | 20:24 |
| mordred | ah. nod | 20:25 |
| ayoung | stevemar, dchadwick has been the major drivign force behind Federation, and they had a proof of concept back in San Diego. They were working on a model based on the visual web, and that did nopt map to how Keystone was used, but getting from their PoC to producizable code has been tricky. | 20:25 |
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| ayoung | mordred, but the proxy code is written and works, and we are getting it merged into the MIT kerberos library. That was what my summer intern made happen. | 20:27 |
| mordred | ayoung: oh nice! | 20:27 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: stevemar: what's the use case for making the mapping available via the API, rather than just pulling it from a config file? | 20:28 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I think it is a matter of scale | 20:29 |
| dolphm | ayoung: like a configuration file per domain? | 20:29 |
| ayoung | in the case of how the Brits are doing it using ABFAB, all of the unis are coming through one portal, but they will be, in essence, different domains | 20:29 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i'm going to review the testr change here. i want to get that one in early so we don't have another tests -> keystone.tests issue too late on. | 20:30 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, unless you can think of a reason to hold back on that one for a bit. | 20:30 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: nope, i'm thinking the same | 20:30 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, cool. | 20:30 |
| ayoung | but I think a config file per domain is reasonable. | 20:30 |
| ayoung | So their API probably needs to be adjusted to reflect that | 20:30 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I would think that the right API would be something like: post the rules for a whole domain in a PUT, and allow changes via PATCH as an optional follow on.. | 20:33 |
| ayoung | but I would assume people would want to get the rules working locally, and atomically update them for their domain | 20:33 |
| dolphm | ayoung: so, no use case for reads? | 20:33 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I can't think of one, but probably no need to deny read access | 20:33 |
| ayoung | at least to admins | 20:33 |
| ayoung | "let me see what is actually deployed?" | 20:34 |
| dolphm | i mean, if you're patching, your probably reading first | 20:34 |
| ayoung | but read the whole rule set | 20:34 |
| dolphm | but if patching is optional | 20:34 |
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| ayoung | GET and PUT and DELETE should be enough to start | 20:34 |
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| ayoung | it might be nice to be able to add a rule on the fly. "Oh, people that work for topol should go in the TOPOLINO group" | 20:35 |
| ayoung | so look at the Manager attribute in the SAML assertion,. something like that | 20:35 |
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| adam_g | jd__, sdague ping. shall i cut 2013.1.4 releases for heat + ceilometer today? | 20:38 |
| adam_g | er | 20:39 |
| adam_g | sdake, ^ | 20:39 |
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| ayoung | mordred, thanjks for reviving those reviews | 20:40 |
| ayoung | dolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18280/ still has a -2 from you due to no API doc. API doc is now posted. Feel free to -2 it for some other reason. | 20:41 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, mapping is going to be used by multiple auth plugins...does that make it a candidate for core Keystone, or would it make more sense as the OS-MAP extension? | 20:43 |
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| david-lyle | tsufiev_: been playing around with your patch, showing the transform name does not seem like a great choice, would prefer an empty string or forcing the verbose name to not be empty | 20:46 |
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| tsufiev_ | david-lyle, forcing the verbose name to not be empty seems good to me too, will submit another patch | 20:50 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: i'd start it as an extension just because it's new, and certainly not every deployment will be using federation | 20:53 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, OK, this is going to go ahead, I think. We've got a lot of interest in it this go 'round: | 20:57 |
| ayoung | we should have SAML and a first Federation impl in Icehouse. | 20:57 |
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| dansmith | dhellmann: did you have a nova bug for that stable/havana six patch? | 21:02 |
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| dhellmann | dansmith: bah, no, I should have opened one | 21:06 |
| dansmith | dhellmann: okay, just wanted to recheck my patch against something, but I think it's okay at this point :) | 21:06 |
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| dhellmann | dansmith: cool | 21:06 |
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| diogogmt | is the admin role default on openstack? | 21:11 |
| diogogmt | I mean in the sense that the role with the name "admin"(lowercase) will always have admin privileges | 21:11 |
| diogogmt | or is it possible that a role "myCustomRole" have admin privileges as well? | 21:11 |
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| diogogmt | I'm not sure if I can set some expectations that the "admin" role will always be there and it will always grant admin access to the user within the tenant | 21:12 |
| diogogmt | ? | 21:12 |
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| ayoung | diogogmt, well, it depends on a couple things. Keystone has a policy.json file that controls access to the APIs | 21:20 |
| ayoung | if you deploy a different policy file, the rules are different\ | 21:20 |
| ayoung | the default one is kindof braindead, but it is legacy and changing it will break things\ | 21:20 |
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| ayoung | we have a much smarter one that is in the keystone repo but not deployed by default....yet | 21:21 |
| morganfainberg | diogogmt, for a new deployment, i'd recommend looking at the "smarter" one as the choice one | 21:21 |
| ayoung | diogogmt, https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/policy.v3cloudsample.json | 21:21 |
| morganfainberg | but i think it makes some assumptions about groups that are not deployed by default | 21:21 |
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| diogogmt | ayoung: morganfainberg correct me if I'm wrong, so to give 'admin' access to an user within a project I would need to configure the policies for keystone first? | 21:30 |
| diogogmt | so depending on the openstack deployment different policies would be in place, right? | 21:31 |
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| diogogmt | how can I find if a policy(role) has admin access to a project? | 21:31 |
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| ayoung | diogogmt, are you trying to do something that works across multiple Keystone deployments? There really is no query mechaism for policy, | 21:32 |
| ayoung | I mean, it is uspposed to be stored in the policy backend, but in practice no one does that | 21:32 |
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| diogogmt | ayoung: the project I'm working on abstract cloud providers, we currently have support for cloudstack and we are in the process of implement openstack. The problem I'm having is that after I create an user i need to give him admin access level to the project(tenant), however, I don't know which role will have the admin permissions | 21:37 |
| diogogmt | does that makes sense? | 21:37 |
| diogogmt | how can I find which role, if any, has admin access level to a project? | 21:38 |
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| sdake | adam_g works for me, we have more patches that need backports but they are not finished yet | 21:41 |
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| sdake | adam_g but you might doublecheck with shardy or stevebaker | 21:41 |
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| adam_g | sdake, well, we can at least get a 2013.1.4 tarball out today with the others, containing https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/2013.1.4, the rest can get retargetted to 2013.1.5 | 21:43 |
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| sdake | adam_g yup agree | 21:44 |
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| sdake | adam_g do you need me to do anything? | 21:47 |
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| adam_g | sdake, dont think so. | 21:47 |
| adam_g | sdake, might wanna create a 2013.1.5 milestone | 21:47 |
| sdake | don't need me to click "Create release" button or anything? | 21:47 |
| sdake | sure when is that expected? | 21:48 |
| sdake | I'm kind of out of the loop on the maint releases | 21:48 |
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| adam_g | sdake, https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/2013.1.4 should be good | 21:55 |
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| kfox1111 | anyone know how to import db schema for a neutron plugin? (lbaas) | 23:42 |
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