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| diist | Hey guys, I'm quite new here! I deployed DevStack, created a few instances and played with them for a bit. I'm now looking at the doc and browsing through the different projects, there are quite a few of them! Ultimately I want to contribute do the code but what do you think would be an "easy" way to get started, is one of the project noob-friendly? Thanks | 02:05 |
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| mirrorbox | is that something wrong with the cinder's check-grenade-devstack-vm job on zuul? | 08:22 |
| mirrorbox | I've noticed it failed even for unrelated changes | 08:22 |
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| mirrorbox | https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/check-grenade-devstack-vm/ | 08:30 |
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| marekd | Hi all, I have a question concerning Keystone, V3 extensions and backend tests. What I need to do right now is to make an extension stored in a SQL database. One of the attributes stored in the SQL will be a FK pointing to the domain.id . What I did was extending file keystone/tests/test_sql_migrate_extensions. There I have my own class inheriting from test_sql_upgrade.SqlMigrateBase. Unfortunately the test fails because it's called before the databas | 13:36 |
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| tellesnobrega | hi, i created new tables for nova, but im getting a shadow_"table_name" doesnt exist | 13:59 |
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| tellesnobrega | all the tables should have a shadow table? what is the point of a shadow table? and how can i work around this? | 14:00 |
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| notmyname | ttx: looks like there isn't a swift tag on the sched summit page? | 14:07 |
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| dolphm | notmyname: have you used pushed to sched recently? | 14:14 |
| fifieldt | ekarlso-, hello | 14:14 |
| notmyname | dolphm: just did | 14:15 |
| dolphm | notmyname: if that was your first time, wait a bit... the sync doesn't seem to be immediate | 14:16 |
| notmyname | kk | 14:16 |
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| notmyname | ...and I just realized that there are a bunch of swift sessions in the conference the same day as all the tech design sessions | 14:16 |
| dolphm | notmyname: although, http://icehousedesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/swift | 14:16 |
| dolphm | notmyname: may not be too late to fix that! hit the scheduling thread asap | 14:17 |
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| ttx | notmyname: it's autocreated when you push sessions | 14:22 |
| notmyname | ttx: ok :-) | 14:22 |
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| notmyname | ttx: dolphm: I'll tackle scheduling a little later this morning. I need to talk to some others in the office first | 14:24 |
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| jrwren | to whomever recommented the mailing list: it changed the List-Id: in mail headers breaking the most common wait to filter mailing list messages. | 15:07 |
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| larsbutler | hi all, keystone testing question: | 15:21 |
| larsbutler | I'm trying to run coverage with `tox -e cover` | 15:21 |
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| larsbutler | and I get this error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/50060/ | 15:22 |
| larsbutler | any idea what might be wrong? | 15:22 |
| larsbutler | (this is on the latest keystone master version) | 15:22 |
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| larsbutler | (otherwise, tests are running fine, with the exception of py33) | 15:23 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: ^ bug? | 15:24 |
| larsbutler | morning dolphm :) | 15:25 |
| dolphm | larsbutler: o/ | 15:25 |
| dolphm | larsbutler: i can repro that with "python setup.py testr --testr-args=--coverage" | 15:26 |
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| larsbutler | dolphm: okay | 15:26 |
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| larsbutler | dolphm: shall I file a bug in LP? | 15:28 |
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| dolphm | larsbutler: sure | 15:28 |
| dolphm | larsbutler: thanks! | 15:28 |
| larsbutler | dolphm: will do | 15:28 |
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| dolphm | larsbutler: try running "python setup.py testr --coverage" directly, in a venv if you need to | 15:30 |
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| larsbutler | dolphm: okay | 15:30 |
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| larsbutler | dolphm: yeah, that seems to be okay | 15:31 |
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| dolphm | e.g., .tox/cover/bin/python setup.py testr --coverage | 15:31 |
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| dolphm | larsbutler: i suspect that's what tox.ini should be running, if that produces coverage results as expected | 15:31 |
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| larsbutler | dolphm: okay, it's running now… I'll let you know if the coverage is properly reported | 15:32 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: you around? | 15:34 |
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| dstanek | dolphm, larsbutler: i actually have a commit somewhere to fix the converage issue | 15:36 |
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| larsbutler | dstanek: nice! If you submit a patch, I'll be happy to review it | 15:36 |
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| larsbutler | dstanek, dolphm: bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1245539 | 15:37 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1245539 in keystone "Error running test coverage: "no such option: --coverage"" [Undecided,New] | 15:37 |
| dolphm | dstanek: i don't see it in gerrit, if that's what you meant | 15:37 |
| larsbutler | ah :) | 15:37 |
| dolphm | larsbutler: danke! | 15:37 |
| dstanek | dolphm: if it's not there i'll get it there - i may not have pushed since it changes the tox.ini and i have at least one review up there for that already | 15:38 |
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| larsbutler | dolphm: confirmed, the corrected command works and appears to produce meaningful coverage reports | 15:38 |
| dstanek | i've been trying to limit the number of things i have up there since it takes some effort to keep rebasing them and for people to keep rereviewing them | 15:38 |
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| dstanek | dolphm, larsbutler: i put the option inside of the quotes instead of where it belonged | 15:39 |
| dolphm | dstanek: ++ | 15:39 |
| dstanek | found it in a stash: http://paste.openstack.org/show/50063/ | 15:40 |
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| dstanek | i'll create a proper commit message and push | 15:40 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: i found this config file test_associate_project_endpoint_extension.conf and i think the test using it should fail | 15:45 |
| larsbutler | dstanek: in master, there are two copies of the same command in tox.ini: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tox.ini#L15 and https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tox.ini#L25 | 15:45 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: #openstack-infra | 15:45 |
| krotscheck | Awesome, thanks | 15:46 |
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| dstanek | larsbutler: they are not the same | 15:47 |
| * larsbutler looks again | 15:47 | |
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| larsbutler | dstanek: ah, you're right. my bad | 15:47 |
| dstanek | larsbutler: https://review.openstack.org/54140 - see if that works for you | 15:48 |
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| reed | g'day | 15:48 |
| dstanek | i'm pretty sure i have one more tox.ini patch laying around, but i don't think it deals with coverage | 15:49 |
| larsbutler | dstanek: okay, running tests; seems okay so far | 15:49 |
| larsbutler | dstanek: once it is finished, I'll give a +1 | 15:49 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: but it doesn't fail and that worries me | 15:51 |
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| larsbutler | dstanek: you mean it doesn't fail the jenkins build? | 15:51 |
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| dstanek | larsbutler: the config refers to a class that doesn't exist and doesn't fail | 15:53 |
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| dstanek | i was hacking on the tests and uncovered it when it started to fail on me | 15:53 |
| jgriffith | devananda: ping | 15:54 |
| devananda | jgriffith: pong | 15:54 |
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| jgriffith | devananda: the ironic sessions seem to overlap with cinder | 15:55 |
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| jgriffith | devananda: I'd *really* like to be at your ironic disk/volumes session | 15:55 |
| devananda | jgriffith: indeed | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | devananda: not sure when your blocks are | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | devananda: cinder is Thurs afternoon and Friday | 15:55 |
| devananda | jgriffith: i have only thurs afternoon | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | devananda: crums | 15:56 |
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| jgriffith | devananda: I also have a general session presentation during that slot | 15:56 |
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| jgriffith | devananda: Guess I'll see if we can do some swapping of Cinder somewhere | 15:57 |
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| devananda | jgriffith: ack. | 15:57 |
| devananda | that reminds me | 15:57 |
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| devananda | russellb: any chance you could move a few of your tuesday sessions around so the ones that are super interesting to us tripleo folk don't overlap quite so much? | 15:57 |
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| fabiog | ayoung: regarding #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46771/21 I am not so sure what actions should I take to address your id concern, please explain | 15:59 |
| devananda | russellb: particularly i'm looking at the scheduler design session, conductor tasks, and (maybe) project structure | 15:59 |
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| kpavel | dansmith: hi Dan, regarding your review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46649/11, do you think it would be better to return it to the simple "magic string" solution? | 16:10 |
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| dansmith | kpavel: better, yes. Not sure if that will have other complications, but definitely better than what you have | 16:11 |
| dansmith | kpavel: if you can go back to that method, then I can look at that and see if there's any other issues | 16:11 |
| kpavel | dansmith: thanks, i will | 16:11 |
| dansmith | cool | 16:12 |
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| larsbutler | dstanek, dolphm: out of curiosity, is the openstack CI running (keystone or other projects) tests with coverage? I'm assuming the answer is no | 16:12 |
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| dolphm | larsbutler: https://jenkins.openstack.org/search/?q=coverage&max=200 | 16:14 |
| dolphm | larsbutler: last run for keystone was august 6th? | 16:15 |
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| dolphm | larsbutler: certainly pre-testr, but i don't know why the job would have been stopped | 16:15 |
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| larsbutler | dolphm: interesting | 16:15 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: "Coverage.py warning: No data was collected" | 16:16 |
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| larsbutler | dolphm: I can file another bug to investigate why the coverage job stopped. Good idea? | 16:23 |
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| dolphm | larsbutler: always :) | 16:23 |
| ttx | dhellmann, jgriffith: around ? | 16:23 |
| larsbutler | funny, it seems like this is the case with all of the jobs… they all stopped on August 6th | 16:24 |
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| larsbutler | at least, that's the case with many, including keystone and nova | 16:24 |
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| dstanek | larsbutler: maybe the people in -infra know what happened | 16:26 |
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| larsbutler | dstanek: good idea | 16:27 |
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| larsbutler | dstanek: so apparently the coverage jobs are running, for example, on https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/keystone-coverage/127/console | 16:36 |
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| nagyz | hey | 16:43 |
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| nagyz | in the identity drivers, should LOG.warning()/log.DEBUG() work at all? :) | 16:43 |
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| dstanek | nagyz: what do you mean? | 16:48 |
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| nagyz | well, even when setting debug and verbose to True in keystone's config, when I add a log.WARNING("blahblah") to anywhere in the code I don't see it in the log | 16:49 |
| nagyz | and neither I see any log output from either the sql identity backend or the ldap identity backend at all | 16:49 |
| dstanek | nagyz: what file are you trying to edit? also i think warning should be lowercased | 16:50 |
| nagyz | trying to edit /keystone/identity/backends/ldap.py | 16:50 |
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| dolphm | nagyz: do you have a logging.conf ? that would be overriding debug / verbose in keystone.conf | 16:51 |
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| dstanek | nagyz: LOG is definitely defined there so i would expect LOG.warning() to show up unless like dolphm said you override the logging configuration | 16:53 |
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| nagyz | I'm using the default supplied with ubuntu's cloud repo - but tried to change the log levels to DEBUG everywhere there instead of the defaults | 16:53 |
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| nagyz | I added a LOG.debug("stuff") right to the first line in authenticate() | 16:54 |
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| nagyz | trying to figure out actually what's wrong with my ldap setup, but I cannot see any debug output from the ldap identity code - that's why I added a few of me own debug lines there to no avail | 16:54 |
| dstanek | nagyz: are you sure it's using that backend? | 16:55 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i've been trying to chase down the oddities with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53050/ | 16:56 |
| nagyz | yes, triple-checked, and keystone user-list works | 16:56 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i think we have some bad/incorrect tests going on here. | 16:56 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: i've been working on a change to the v3 tests that fixes some of the isses | 16:57 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i'd rather see tests organized into unit / functional / integration first :( | 16:57 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: it's actually a mess | 16:57 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, yes it is | 16:57 |
| dstanek | dolphm: ++ | 16:57 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, i think we have some "it works by accident" stuff going on | 16:57 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: yes, actually there is a config file with an invalid class specified; so i would expect the test to fail | 16:58 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i was going to say i wanted to get back to KVS refactor and circle back to that one either in HK or after since it's less time-drivin | 16:58 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: but it doesn't and i suspect it's because the load_backend method is called over and over again | 16:58 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, it also the test_associate_project doesn't actually load that class, since it was wedged into setup_database | 16:58 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, instead of how oauth is setup | 16:59 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: i don't what to push to gerrit yet, but i can push to github for you to take a peek if you are interested | 16:59 |
| russellb | devananda: hmm, let me take a look and see what i can do | 16:59 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, no worries, no rush. i just wanted to raise the flag that we have a mess. | 16:59 |
| jgriffith | ttx: dhellmann ping0 | 16:59 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: git-review --wip <-- doesn't exist but it should | 17:00 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++++++++++++++++++ | 17:00 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, dolphm, i think some of the cleanup is going to need moving the important teardown stuff into the addCleanup mechanism. | 17:01 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: https://github.com/dstanek/keystone/tree/fix-all-the-tests | 17:01 |
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| dolphm | haha | 17:01 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: still working on making that last commit actually work for everything | 17:01 |
| dstanek | i think there are just a handful of failing tests | 17:02 |
| dolphm | reminds me of termie's trust-no-one branch | 17:02 |
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| nagyz | dstanek, is there any way to disable the logging filter? or any guide that talks about logging.conf | 17:05 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ideally (if possible) move the override config for the endpoint_filtering test to work like the oauth configs. having the override in setup_database wont do anything useful nor test the catalog_sql backend | 17:05 |
| nagyz | I do see some DEBUG entries in the log tho, from dogpile and routers.middleware | 17:05 |
| dstanek | dolphm: does that mean you'd want me to rename my system directory? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53208/ | 17:05 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, provided by endpoint filtering that is. | 17:06 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: not sure what you mean. with my changes that config is not loaded and the tests fail because the class doesn't exist | 17:08 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, ah, ok. | 17:08 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, it's a bad implementation to wedge into setup_database though. the override should be defined in setUp() | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | erm | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | sorry | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | in setup_config | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | er crap | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | sorry | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | .config_files() | 17:08 |
| ayoung | fabiog, well, first of all, make the intention clear. If the idea of Shared secret is to be a better mechanism for a user to have multiple passwords, and rotate through them, it seems to fall down with the ID field | 17:09 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, i swear i know the code i am talking about :P | 17:09 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: i agree; that top commit is really to stop loading data multiple times for all of the v3 tests | 17:09 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: there will be more commits to clean other things | 17:09 |
| dstanek | i think that is commit #4 on the branch | 17:10 |
| ayoung | fabiog, for example, a user can't go "userid = "XXXX" "PW ID = "XXXX" "Password = "XXXXX" in a request, and certainly can' | 17:10 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ahh | 17:10 |
| ayoung | t with basic-auth | 17:10 |
| fabiog | ayoung: I added this description in the latest patch: | 17:10 |
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| fabiog | The shared-secret authentication method is intended to be used for service to service authentication. It supports multiple credentials enabling secret rotations without service interruption. | 17:11 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, cool | 17:11 |
| dstanek | nagyz: there is an option, i believe log-config, that allows you to specify a file to override the logging config; if you are not setting it I don't think you are using it | 17:11 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, and i was wrong oauth doesn't do it, PKI token provider does: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/tests/test_v3_auth.py#L98 | 17:11 |
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| nagyz | dstanek, no, that's not set. | 17:12 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, so with that said, since dstanek is killing it with tests (and is awesome for doing so), I'm going to get back to KVS and domain cleanup since i want to hit that stuff as early as possible. | 17:13 |
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| nagyz | dstanek, so with debug=True, verbose=True, logging not set this is ALL the debug output I get for request (which tries to authenticate): http://pastebin.com/LwGWf61H | 17:13 |
| fabiog | ayoung: so you want also to add the user_id to the request with the credential_id, or you want to change the password authentication method? | 17:13 |
| nagyz | I belive I should get a lot more output... | 17:13 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, I don't really want tyo do any of this. I see the value of multple passwords, but not completely sold on it. I need to understand how the mechanism is going to work. I don't want a parallel password scheme from the current one we have, so if we are going to use this share-dsecret approach, it has to work cleanly with the current auth | 17:17 |
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| ayoung | Ideally, that means it would have the same semantics as Basic-Auth | 17:17 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, having a user-definedn identifier on the password seems strange, probably a case of overapplying the rules for unique identifiers in openstack | 17:19 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, why should service-to-service be any different than user-to-service? | 17:20 |
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| fabiog | ayoung: is not different, it is just requiring a higher level of automation, not having a person involved | 17:21 |
| fabiog | ayoung: the shared secret is an extension | 17:21 |
| fabiog | and if we think we can collapse it into the current password later on, I am sure we can think about it | 17:22 |
| ayoung | fabiog, there are much better mechanisms than symetric shared secrets for that. Do we really need this> | 17:22 |
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| fabiog | ayoung: well, this is a mechanism that several vendors already have and I think it is valuable | 17:23 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, I think it is probably a mistake | 17:24 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, we already have too many OS specific security mechanisms | 17:24 |
| ayoung | This one feels really wrong. I can see it, though, if it is a fix for the current password mechanism | 17:25 |
| ayoung | not as an additional mechanism | 17:25 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, why should a user be able to have more than one password active at a time? | 17:25 |
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| fabiog | ayoung: because in this way can change it without disruption. I can have services sending the updated password and other using the old one | 17:26 |
| ayoung | fabiog, so never more than two, right? | 17:27 |
| ayoung | old and new | 17:27 |
| fabiog | ayoung: it would be unlikely, unless you use different credentials for different regions, which could be a use case | 17:27 |
| fabiog | (not sure ..) | 17:27 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, I assume you want a workflow like this: send new password to keystone, send new password to server, ensure service is using new password, delete old | 17:28 |
| morganfainberg | fabiog, isn't this really just an alternate to the EC2 compatible key-pair (ayoung, why is it named such?... it's not a keypair...) | 17:28 |
| fabiog | morganfainberg: yes it is | 17:28 |
| morganfainberg | fabiog, it feels ... like almost completely duplicated effort. | 17:28 |
| morganfainberg | fabiog, is there a reason the keypair couldn't be used instead? | 17:29 |
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| fabiog | morganfainberg, originally the proposal was called access-key and secret-key which is a key pair concept | 17:30 |
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| fabiog | but since it really uses the credentials, it was re-named shared-secret | 17:30 |
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| ayoung | sorry, dropped there, did I miss anything? | 17:31 |
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| fabiog | ayoung: just commenting on morganfainberg, that this proposal was based on a key-pair concept | 17:32 |
| fabiog | but it was later requested to be changed as a credential shared-secret | 17:33 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, I'd be much happier with it if it were a Key pair | 17:37 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, the idea of multiple passwords is OK, too | 17:38 |
| dolphm | ayoung: nothing about it looks like "key-pair" to me-- it's just password rotation | 17:38 |
| ayoung | but I just would want it to tie in with the existing auth mechanisms, not a new onw | 17:38 |
| fabiog | ayoung: but what is the difference? the credential_id and secret are arbitrary strings | 17:38 |
| stevemar | ayoung: ping | 17:38 |
| ayoung | dolphm, in its currrent incarnation, I agree. But the same rules of rotation apply for keypairs and shared-secret. I can see the deisrre for a mechanism to do multiple for rotations purposes for both | 17:39 |
| dolphm | ayoung: ++ there's no reason why a Password auth plugin couldn't back to the /v3/credentials persistance | 17:39 |
| ayoung | dolphm, that would be a good thing, I think | 17:39 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, then again, I'd say it should get out of the request and be basic-auth, too. | 17:40 |
| ayoung | request-body | 17:40 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, and...going even further, I would say we want to wean people off of shared secret passwords altogether | 17:41 |
| dolphm | ayoung: agree | 17:41 |
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| gyee | ayoung, dolphm, shared secret and passwords are a bit different | 17:42 |
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| gyee | we only store the salted hash of the password in the backend | 17:42 |
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| dolphm | gyee: aren't you using ldap anyway? | 17:43 |
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| gyee | also, you can shared the same password among services and expected to do rolling upgrade | 17:43 |
| gyee | you can't | 17:43 |
| gyee | dolphm, we can integrate with LDAP | 17:43 |
| stevemar | ayoung: give me a pong when you're free :O | 17:43 |
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| gyee | but it doesn't have to be LDAP | 17:44 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ on getitng people off shared secret | 17:44 |
| devananda | dhellmann: ping | 17:44 |
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| dolphm | gyee: i'm not sure who's going to appreciate an password-rotation implementation that doesn't hash passwords | 17:44 |
| gyee | dolphm, we don't dictate security, we simply facilitate it :) | 17:45 |
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| ayoung | gyee, passwords are shared secrets. They are currently the only implementation we have of them. Unless you count the KDS work. Please don't tell me that you think there should be even another one beyond that. | 17:45 |
| dolphm | gyee: in this case, you're discouraging it | 17:45 |
| ayoung | And...if you really want shared secrets, you should look at the KDS implementation | 17:45 |
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| gyee | ayoung, I don't need something hot and heavy, just a simple mechanism | 17:46 |
| gyee | if we want to allow multiple active password mechanism, that's fine with me | 17:46 |
| ayoung | gyee, I knew you were going to say that. Time to schedule your public flogging | 17:46 |
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| gyee | ayoung, this ain't Singapore | 17:47 |
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| dolphm | msmedved: consider turning that off? | 17:47 |
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| gyee | password reset will be fun though as you require both old and new password | 17:48 |
| gyee | which one to reset? :) | 17:48 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: \o/ | 17:49 |
| dolphm | gyee: i wouldn't call that a "reset" | 17:49 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++ | 17:49 |
| fabiog | dolphm, ayoung: having multiple passwords active at the same time is not counter intuitive? | 17:49 |
| morganfainberg | that isn't really a reset | 17:49 |
| gyee | dolphm, how do we handle rolling upgrade? | 17:49 |
| nagyz | so could it be that dogpile eats up all the identity driver log messages? | 17:49 |
| nagyz | I've been chasing this for hours now and have no idea what I'm doing wrong | 17:49 |
| msmedved | dolphm, ok, sorry about that | 17:49 |
| dolphm | fabiog: that's exactly what you're asking for, afaict | 17:49 |
| dolphm | msmedved: i just don't think it benefits anyone in the channel | 17:49 |
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| morganfainberg | fabiog, gyee, wouldn't this almost be better as trusts? | 17:50 |
| gyee | I need to have two password/shared-secret active, do the rolling upgrade, then revoke the old one | 17:50 |
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| gyee | if you can solve this with the current password framework, I am good with that | 17:51 |
| morganfainberg | authorize exactly what you want to be allowed, for a given user/etc. if you need to roll the upgrade, make a new trust, roll to that... | 17:51 |
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| dhellmann | jgriffith: pong | 17:51 |
| dhellmann | devananda: pong | 17:51 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, trust deals with delegation | 17:51 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, and you're looking for stict authn | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | ? | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | strictly* | 17:52 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, correct, authn | 17:52 |
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| devananda | dhellmann: for the thursday sched change, what works better? | 17:53 |
| ayoung | gyee, of course not. If it were Singapore, it would be caning | 17:53 |
| gyee | heh | 17:53 |
| gyee | I can't tell the difference | 17:53 |
| gyee | equally painful | 17:54 |
| dhellmann | devananda: I could make the early afternoon slots work, but not the late afternoon | 17:54 |
| devananda | dhellmann: i could move cinder-for-ironic to the 2:40 slot. not sure if that's better for jgriffith though? | 17:55 |
| ayoung | Hong Kong was a British Colony. Cat-o-9-tails was the preferred means of discipline | 17:55 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee, so i'm just trying to see if we can make something a bit more generic... so we don't need this more nad more mechanisms to solve the same general problem | 17:56 |
| ayoung | fabiog, I am OK with the concept of rotations. We see the same thing with X509 renewals | 17:56 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ rotations isn't a bad idea. | 17:56 |
| dhellmann | devananda: Do you and jgriffith want to work that out and let me know? | 17:57 |
| ayoung | fabiog, but it needs to be secure, and it needs to tie in with the existing mechanisms in a clean way. I think the API you have is pretty close, but we need to close the loops | 17:57 |
| fabiog | ayoung: so what changes are required to the shared-secret? | 17:57 |
| ayoung | So, first, it needs to be a tie in with the existing password mechanisms | 17:57 |
| nagyz | dstanek, any ideas? | 17:57 |
| ayoung | second, if there is going to be an ID, it needs to be scoped to the user | 17:57 |
| ayoung | and I am not certain that we need the id | 17:58 |
| ayoung | it cannot be used in any communications, or we have just added a new mechanism | 17:58 |
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| fabiog | ayoung: you mean creadential_id? | 17:58 |
| gyee | ayoung, id is already scoped to the user | 17:58 |
| gyee | credential have user_id in it | 17:58 |
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| ayoung | gyee, the create api had a user supplied ID in it. | 17:58 |
| gyee | ayoung, correct, user_id is mandatory in credential_ref | 17:59 |
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| ayoung | gyee, I can see an argument for the id being there so that a user can come by later and say "disable pw #4" | 17:59 |
| gyee | sure, you can disable password with ID 4 | 17:59 |
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| devananda | dhellmann: let's see what jgriffith says. i can be flexible with rearrangign the ironic sessions within my slots, except for the 5:20 wrap-up. | 18:00 |
| gyee | dolphm_a_, what's up with the _a_? :) | 18:00 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, afk? maybe | 18:00 |
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| gyee | ah | 18:00 |
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| dhellmann | devananda: yeah, I have already shuffled some so I'm running out of room to do more. Those afternoon slots do work, though. | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it almost seems like all password auth should be backed by credential backend in this case? | 18:01 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, ayoung, the method name can't be password then | 18:01 |
| gyee | since we need id/password instead of username/password | 18:01 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee, it would be potentially doable to compare against all creddentials for the user with type "password" but... i am unsure if that isn't far too expensive to even consider | 18:02 |
| ayoung | gyee, hmmm...I see how you ended up there....but not sure I really want us to support it | 18:02 |
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| ayoung | gyee, so...instead of of a user having userid/password they will have multiple crednetial_ids/shared-secrets | 18:04 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, yeah, perf could be an issue as authn is a high requency call | 18:04 |
| gyee | frequency | 18:04 |
| ayoung | nah, it would be cheap enough | 18:04 |
| ayoung | filter by userid first | 18:04 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, unless they had ~1000s of credentials for a user...but i'd argue at that point... make a second user or 10 | 18:05 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, even then I suspect it would not really be an issue, but we could always limit the number of creds to prevent a DOS of that sort | 18:05 |
| gyee | ayoung, I am OK with 3 active ones | 18:06 |
| ayoung | but interesting that credntial_id/shared-secret would work with basic-auth | 18:06 |
| morganfainberg | alternatively, it would be possible to seed the IDs for the credential in a sane way and use that in lieu of the user_id. since credential id maps to user_id. if using "username" or "user_id" you'd compare against all possible creds for the user? | 18:06 |
| nagyz | do you guys see any debug log output in keystone.conf from any of your identity drivers? | 18:06 |
| nagyz | the "deepest" i see the calls are dogpile +sqlalchemy, but nothing directly from the driver | 18:06 |
| ayoung | nagyz, I use an integrated debugger | 18:06 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, the logging stuff is kindof weird. Do you see a log call that should be triggered, but is not? | 18:07 |
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| nagyz | I added a LOG.debug() (tried critical, info, whatever you can think of) into the beginning of authenticate() in the ldap backend, yet not seeing this in any of the keystone logs | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, if you have caching enabled, it is possible the debug from the assignment backend wouldn't be called if it is cached. | 18:08 |
| Kupo24z | Hey All, have a new bug; can someone confirm weither or not its working as intended? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1245595 | 18:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1245595 in nova "Resize with LVM Restores from Image; Clears All Data" [Undecided,New] | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | but only assignment | 18:08 |
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| ayoung | fabiog, gyee, so, it is not an API issue, but the passwords and shared-secrets should both be securely stored | 18:08 |
| gyee | ayoung, morganfainberg, so we are OK with using the password mechanism with credential_id/password in the payload? | 18:08 |
| ayoung | gyee, well, i think it is OK. Some details still to be worked out | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, i think that is fair, but we should seed the credential id or salt it with something we can always identify it is a cred id vs user_iud | 18:09 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee, i also think we need to only store salted hashes (same as password) | 18:09 |
| gyee | morganfainbert, it would be the same mechanism as passwords | 18:09 |
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| nagyz | morganfainberg, can I just set cache=False to counter this if this is indeed happening? | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, aye | 18:09 |
| gyee | salt + 1000 round of hash | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, [cache] section of the config, enabled = False | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, but disabled should be the default | 18:09 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, we can add "credential_id" to the password mechanisms if we really want....I just don't really want to add any more mechanisms like this at all. | 18:10 |
| nagyz | ok, it's indeed disabled, but just to be sure I set it to false. | 18:10 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'd rather not make credential_id specific. i'd rather be able to use either cred_id or user_id or username | 18:10 |
| ayoung | gyee, I assume that this would not be "either/or" | 18:10 |
| gyee | ayoung, that also means we need to change dolphm's password reset API | 18:10 |
| gyee | for password reset, user will need to specify *which password* to reset | 18:10 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, if it came to that. | 18:10 |
| ayoung | gyee, no... | 18:11 |
| nagyz | this is ALL the output getting added to keystone.log using the ldap identity driver with debugging enabled: http://pastebin.com/CPsTPXNN | 18:11 |
| gyee | or it has to be two operations | 18:11 |
| ayoung | gyee, password reset could work with this mechanism just fine | 18:11 |
| gyee | 1) create new password, and 2) revoke old password | 18:11 |
| ayoung | password reset could do that in one call | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ | 18:11 |
| gyee | ayoung, I am confused, we are storing passwords in credentials no? | 18:11 |
| gyee | if I read you guys correctly | 18:12 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, yes, but standard password reset call could do it in one call. | 18:12 |
| gyee | are we not changing password auth plugin to use credentials backend? | 18:12 |
| nagyz | there must be a way to get back the nice ldap debugging like in grizzly... | 18:12 |
| dstanek | ayoung, gyee, morganfainberg: does what you are talking about affect https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52456/ | 18:12 |
| nagyz | cause this is useless for debugging right now :) | 18:12 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, yeah...potentially | 18:13 |
| gyee | dstanek, yes | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, you're running it under eventlet, right? can you put a paste up of your config? | 18:13 |
| dstanek | k, i should probably pay attention then :-) | 18:13 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, how do we know "which password" to reset? | 18:13 |
| ayoung | nagyz, do you still get that with caching turned off? | 18:13 |
| ayoung | gyee, password is linked to user | 18:13 |
| ayoung | so if a user changes a password, they are assuming they have one and only one | 18:13 |
| gyee | a user can have multiple passwords under this proposal | 18:13 |
| gyee | we can't assume anything | 18:14 |
| ayoung | gyee, we would have a different API for multiple passwords if your approach goes through | 18:14 |
| dstanek | gyee: do ou hae a link to the proposal? | 18:14 |
| nagyz | ayoung, yes, caching disabled. | 18:14 |
| nagyz | morganfainberg, guess so. default ubuntu. :) let me put my paste conf somewher | 18:14 |
| gyee | ayoung, different APIs? | 18:14 |
| ayoung | gyee, "change the password that matched the one you passed in" | 18:14 |
| gyee | ayoung, which if I have multiple matches | 18:14 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, what ayoung said, i was assuming the use of changing the password that matched the "old one" in that case. | 18:14 |
| ayoung | nagyz, your trace showed dogpile as the last thing called | 18:14 |
| bknudson | mordred: On https://launchpad.net/openstack -- "Mailing list" is out of date -- http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev | 18:15 |
| gyee | same shared secret with different ID | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, dogpile always logs something. | 18:15 |
| nagyz | ayoung, exactly; but this happens even with the SQL identity backend, where I do see the queries from sqlalchemy, but not a single log line from the sql identity driver itself | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it has some lock magic regardless if it is on or off. low impact | 18:15 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, I can have multiple credentials with different credential_id | 18:15 |
| ayoung | nagyz, you have debugging turned on in the log? | 18:15 |
| gyee | API allows that | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, oh i see, same credential "foobar111" with id 1, and someone else uses | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | "foobar111" with id 23 | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | which would it reset. | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | ah | 18:16 |
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| nagyz | ayoung, log_config is not set in the keystone.conf, but just to be sure I changed the levels to DEBUG in /etc/keystone/logging.conf that ships with the ubuntu package | 18:16 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, but the credentials should be scoped to the user. | 18:16 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, correct, same user can have multiple passwords (of the same string) but with different IDs | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, what gyee just said. | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i see the issue. | 18:17 |
| gyee | only credential_id is globally unique | 18:17 |
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| dstanek | what it the usecase for mulitple passwords - it sounds odd hearing about it for the first time | 18:17 |
| ayoung | but there is an interesting question: can a user have multiple shared-secrets that have the same secret value? | 18:17 |
| ayoung | dstanek, rotation | 18:17 |
| gyee | ayoung, yes, API allows that | 18:17 |
| ayoung | dstanek, assume a service reads password out of a config file | 18:17 |
| ayoung | dstanek, admin user changes password, and there is a race condition on the next request | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, debug = true in the config as well? | 18:18 |
| nagyz | yep | 18:18 |
| nagyz | and verbose=True just to be sure. | 18:18 |
| ayoung | dstanek, old password is still in the config file | 18:18 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, and this is eventlet not httpd right? | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz (using keystone-all to start keystone) | 18:18 |
| dstanek | ayoung: so we'd want the old one to work for some period of time? | 18:18 |
| ayoung | need to kill -HUP type changes to reread config file meanwhile, service is still chugging along, and tries to perform operation | 18:18 |
| nagyz | morganfainberg, yes. | 18:19 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, aye. | 18:19 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, yep | 18:19 |
| gyee | dstanek, yes, for password rotation and rolling upgrade | 18:19 |
| morganfainberg | actually... that is another interesting enhancement.... make credentials possible to be time-limited.... | 18:19 |
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| morganfainberg | some other discussion later on that though | 18:19 |
| ayoung | nagyz, how did you deploy? | 18:19 |
| dstanek | interesting...does that open us up to security issues? say a password is changed because it is compromised | 18:19 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, you'd revoke/disable that password immidiately | 18:19 |
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| nagyz | ayoung, apt-get install keystone :-) from the ubuntu cloud repo for havana. | 18:19 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, explicitly, and get everything updated directly | 18:20 |
| nagyz | ayoung, this is the package version, if it's any indication: 1:2013.2~rc4-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 18:20 |
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| nagyz | not sure why it's rc4, not the final... | 18:20 |
| ayoung | nagyz, I'm a Red Hat guy...don't much uyes that, so a few more questions for you | 18:20 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, when you turned on debugging, how did you restart the server? | 18:21 |
| nagyz | service keystone restart, which essentially stops keystone-all and restart it under the right user | 18:21 |
| nagyz | I can try stop, start, but would be shocked if there were a difference | 18:21 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, can you verifty the process was actually stopped/started? | 18:21 |
| ayoung | nagyz, ok...and it is unlikely that there are multiple config files, either, so you probably edited the right one | 18:21 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, upstart gets cranky sometimes | 18:22 |
| nagyz | when I do a restart I do see keystone dumping the current settigns to the log file | 18:22 |
| ayoung | logging is further controlled by logging.conf | 18:22 |
| gyee | nagyz, run keystone with ltrace and you can see which conf file it is loading | 18:22 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/logging.conf.sample is the one we ship with | 18:22 |
| gyee | just look for the open sys calls | 18:22 |
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| nagyz | ayoung, even with logging_conf not set? | 18:22 |
| nagyz | er, log_config | 18:22 |
| ayoung | but there is nothing in there that would affect this anyway | 18:22 |
| ayoung | nagyz, well, I guess not. | 18:23 |
| ayoung | nagyz, hmmm, so you are using LDAP, right? | 18:23 |
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| nagyz | trying to. :) | 18:23 |
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| nagyz | after a bit of hacking I have the suse hybrid driver working with havana, which allows me to do a keystone user-list | 18:24 |
| nagyz | but even with the pure ldap driver I do not see the ldap queries | 18:24 |
| nagyz | or any output from the ldap driver. | 18:24 |
| dstanek | has the mulitple credentials idea been discussed in a etherpad or blueprint yet? | 18:24 |
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| nagyz | open("/etc/keystone/keystone.conf", O_RDONLY) = 3 | 18:24 |
| nagyz | it's opening the right config. | 18:24 |
| ayoung | nagyz, is there any indication that the LDAP driver is doing the right thing? | 18:25 |
| gyee | dstanek, not yeah, this is something as the result of shared-secret extension | 18:25 |
| tellesnobrega | hi, i created some tables on nova but im getting this error when testing the version migration Failed to migrate to version 228 on engine Engine(sqlite://) can anyone help me? | 18:25 |
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| nagyz | ayoung, with tcpdump I can see traffic going out to the ldaps port for the ldap server | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, if you could post a paste of your config it might be easier to eyeball and make sure nothing is explicitly missing (leave out passwords of course) | 18:26 |
| nagyz | sure, let me get a paste somewhere | 18:26 |
| ayoung | nagyz, cool...so it really is just a problem with logging, and not something swallowing the calls | 18:26 |
| nagyz | ayoung, I think so too. | 18:26 |
| dstanek | gyee: it sounds like i would not want my review merged because i would rather only deal with a credentials resource | 18:26 |
| ayoung | nagyz, and you are getting decent logging elsewhere, just not the drivers, no? | 18:26 |
| gyee | dstanek, yeah, we need go iron out the details | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, he is seeing router.middleware stuff, sqlalchemy, and dogpile | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung. http://pastebin.com/CPsTPXNN | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | and some wsgi stuff | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | (info/warning) | 18:27 |
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| nagyz | ayoung, yep | 18:27 |
| gyee | dstanek, we may need credential_id/old_password/new_password in order to do reset | 18:27 |
| ayoung | nagyz, OK, I think that is cuz we log nothing | 18:27 |
| ayoung | nagyz, look here | 18:27 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/identity/backends/ldap.py | 18:28 |
| ayoung | the only LOG message is in user-list | 18:28 |
| nagyz | if I add a LOG.debug() myself to the beginning of authenticate, that gets swallowed too | 18:28 |
| gyee | dstanek, but usability may suffer as user normally won't remember credential_id | 18:28 |
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| nagyz | here's the config I'm running: http://pastebin.com/HESTAnt8 | 18:29 |
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| nagyz | (the other un-related thing would be that if I change "enabled" via keystone command line utils for a user, and it's coming from a read-only LDAP server, where will keystone save that, if at all.) | 18:30 |
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| dstanek | gyee: they would be able to get a list of credentials right? if so usability isn't too much worse | 18:31 |
| ayoung | nagyz, do you see any logging at the startup? | 18:31 |
| nagyz | ayoung, yeah I do see keystone dumping the settings for each option | 18:31 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, actually, there should be a good bit of logging https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/ldap/core.py | 18:31 |
| gyee | dstanek, list of credentials in the UI? are you going to show the naked passwords? | 18:31 |
| ayoung | nagyz, for example, every simplebind should get logged in a debug setup | 18:32 |
| nagyz | ayoung, I used to have these logs with grizzly in the past. just not since I reinstalled and wanted to use havana. | 18:32 |
| nagyz | those are exactly what I'd like to see | 18:32 |
| nagyz | to see why I cannot authenticate users :) | 18:32 |
| ayoung | nagyz, I believe you. We just haven't fielded this problem yet | 18:32 |
| ayoung | trying to figure out if it is us or you | 18:32 |
| nagyz | sure | 18:32 |
| nagyz | I'm happy to help in any way I can | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | oh ... i wonder | 18:32 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, if logging.conf is loaded at all, it overrides everything else, no matter what. | 18:33 |
| nagyz | (hah, the ibm host masking doesn't work when I log in via pure v6) | 18:33 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, is logging.conf being loaded at all? | 18:33 |
| nagyz | how could I verify that, besides checking log_config? | 18:33 |
| nagyz | 2013-10-28 19:31:33.664 22575 DEBUG keystone-all [-] log_config = None log_opt_values /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo/config/cfg.py:1941 | 18:34 |
| morganfainberg | ok that should be fine. | 18:34 |
| nagyz | should deafult_log_levels change "keystone" to "DEBUG" instead of "INFO" with debug=True? | 18:34 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, smells like a side effect of the switch over to oslo logging | 18:34 |
| ayoung | is there some assumption we were making that is no longer true>? | 18:34 |
| dstanek | gyee: no, but i would assume if there can be multiple passwords that you'd allow then to have a description | 18:34 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, aye | 18:34 |
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| gyee | dstanek, there's no description field in credential_ref today | 18:35 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'm spinning up a ubuntu vm now... but going to need to run to a meeting for 10-15 mins in a sec | 18:35 |
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| dstanek | gyee: if there is no list how will a user know what passwords they have? | 18:36 |
| gyee | dstanek, that's my concern with this proposal | 18:36 |
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| gyee | the usability aspect | 18:36 |
| ayoung | gyee, honestly, I would rather get automated users off of passwords and deal with a key rotation extension than add a new credential type for shared secret | 18:37 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, I'm guessing that we broke something in the log config | 18:37 |
| gyee | ayoung, that's what the current proposal is dealing with | 18:38 |
| nagyz | ayoung, is there an easy "hack" that I could apply to see if that's indeed the case? | 18:38 |
| ayoung | gyee, changing everything over to PKI? | 18:38 |
| ayoung | nagyz, so what I am tracking down is the config path right now | 18:38 |
| gyee | ayoung, no, shared-secret | 18:38 |
| ayoung | gyee, and that sucks | 18:38 |
| ayoung | nagyz, it used to be in keystone/common/config/py | 18:39 |
| ayoung | but now it is in | 18:39 |
| gyee | ayoung, like I said, we don't dictate security, we simple facilitate it | 18:39 |
| gyee | security is a process, Keystone is a tool :) | 18:39 |
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| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/openstack/common/log.py | 18:39 |
| ayoung | gyee, but if you can go back to the powers that be and say "the Keystone team said No" what happens? | 18:40 |
| nagyz | as a quick fix, can't I set it to log to syslog? | 18:40 |
| ayoung | nagyz, you can do anything you like. I'm notcertain yet what is going wrong | 18:41 |
| nagyz | sure I can I meant if that would/could help :) | 18:41 |
| ayoung | nagyz, I suspect not | 18:42 |
| ayoung | nagyz, since you are getting some logging in the current incarnation, lets not change too much at once | 18:42 |
| ayoung | nagyz, ok, so you suggested change | 18:42 |
| ayoung | default_log_levels[keystone]=DEBUG | 18:42 |
| ayoung | nagyz, I suspect that is correct, at least in intention | 18:42 |
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| gyee | ayoung, I am perfectly fine with "No" as long as we have legitimate reasons | 18:43 |
| gyee | force ppl to use PKI is not a good reason | 18:43 |
| gyee | though I am a big fan of PKI, but I don't dictate PKI | 18:43 |
| ayoung | gyee, supporting an additional password mech in Keystone is not a good idea | 18:43 |
| nagyz | ayoung, just adding that to keystone.conf works? | 18:44 |
| ayoung | gyee, so, if you can come in with a way to make it work cleanly with the existing, I'd be far more likely to go along with it | 18:44 |
| ayoung | nagyz, no idea | 18:44 |
| nagyz | I mean is that the place I should modify it? | 18:44 |
| nagyz | hah :) | 18:44 |
| ayoung | nagyz, not sure the format | 18:44 |
| ayoung | nagyz, let me see if I can find some documentaion | 18:44 |
| gyee | ayoung, we just discuss that multiple password route and its not usable it the current form | 18:45 |
| gyee | password reset is an issue | 18:45 |
| ayoung | gyee, ...really hard for me to get behind this proposal | 18:45 |
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| ayoung | gyee, I like the idea of PKI for service users. | 18:46 |
| ayoung | gyee, and I can certainly get behind a rotation API for PKI | 18:47 |
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| gyee | ayoung, I just submited a proposal for PKI auth | 18:48 |
| ayoung | gyee, you mean rotation for the credentials API as a PKI auth mechanism? | 18:48 |
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| gyee | ayoung, no , right now just cert authorization | 18:49 |
| ayoung | dhellmann, can you tell me how I can change the default log level for a single service using the oslo config for oslo debug? | 18:49 |
| ayoung | s!debug!log! | 18:49 |
| ayoung | nagyz, it is a list option. and I am not certain what the format is to change just a single value for that list | 18:50 |
| ayoung | nagyz, it might be that it can be overridden by a different value, too | 18:50 |
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| nagyz | ayoung, google told me that it's a nova.conf option, but trying to apply it in keystone.conf doesn't work | 18:52 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, so, one option is to edit the source | 18:52 |
| nagyz | I'm fine with that. | 18:52 |
| ayoung | nota gret option, but worth trying. Just keep the original around | 18:52 |
| nagyz | would this be keystone/openstack/common/log.py then? | 18:53 |
| nagyz | let me see | 18:53 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, yeah | 18:53 |
| nagyz | 2013-10-28 19:53:45.362 27098 DEBUG keystone-all [-] default_log_levels = ['amqplib=WARN', 'sqlalchemy=WARN', 'boto=WARN', 'suds=INFO', 'keystone=DEBUG', 'eventlet.wsgi.server=WARN'] log_opt_values /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo/config/cfg.py:1941 | 18:53 |
| nagyz | let's see. | 18:53 |
| nagyz | and voila | 18:54 |
| nagyz | I see my LDAP debug | 18:54 |
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| nagyz | so basically debug=True doesn't propagate into default_log_levels in oslo | 18:54 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, ah | 18:54 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, it was, infact, an artifact of common logging | 18:55 |
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| fabiog | stevemar and dolphm: can you please let me know if the changes in #link:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53046/ are good? | 18:56 |
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| stevemar | fabiog: yes sir | 18:57 |
| fabiog | stevemar: I said "please" ;-) | 18:58 |
| stevemar | fabiog: sir, yes i noticed that, sir | 18:58 |
| morganfainberg | fabiog, stevemar, would it even be possible to have an extension w/o a controller/router? | 18:58 |
| nagyz | so two related questions: does anybody know what happened to suse's hybrid identity driver? | 18:58 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, yep you can | 18:58 |
| nagyz | I'd like to have the service accounts locally in mysql, but the users should come from ldap. | 18:58 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, i mean... would it _actually_ be able to do anything? | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | :P | 18:59 |
| fabiog | morganfainberg: if the extension does not have new API | 18:59 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tree/master/keystone/contrib/admin_crud | 18:59 |
| fabiog | morganfainberg: the OS-SHARED-SECRET would not need that | 18:59 |
| fabiog | because is a plug-in for token provider | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, bad example, put router in core.py there (old) | 18:59 |
| fabiog | so no need for routers | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | fabiog, if it was developed in-tree it would go in keystone/token/providers | 19:00 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, yeah, but in the docs we are calling it out to make sure its a new file | 19:00 |
| morganfainberg | fabiog, (i'm playing devils advocate, not really complaining) | 19:00 |
| fabiog | morganfainberg, right, but as an extension it would be in the contrib folder | 19:00 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, stevemar, fabiog, extension != API extension | 19:01 |
| gyee | we need to distinguish that | 19:01 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee, that is the point i was getting to | 19:01 |
| nagyz | morganfainberg, should I open a bug? | 19:02 |
| stevemar | maybe the docs should have that distinction :) | 19:02 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, about? the logging? | 19:02 |
| nagyz | yes | 19:02 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, likely we should get documentation fixed for that | 19:02 |
| gyee | stevemar, agree | 19:02 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, it is worth doing so for that. | 19:02 |
| nagyz | morganfainberg, I had to hack the source to get it working... doesn't sound like a docu tweak | 19:02 |
| fabiog | stevemar: I will add a sentence, saying that extensions implementing API extensions must have the routers and controllers | 19:02 |
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| morganfainberg | oh what source? in common/openstack? | 19:02 |
| nagyz | yeah | 19:02 |
| nagyz | the log.py file | 19:03 |
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| morganfainberg | well. we _shouldn't_ change that directly | 19:03 |
| nagyz | to manually change default_log_levels["keystone"] | 19:03 |
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| nagyz | yes, but when keystone is started up with debug=True, then default_log_levels["keystone"] should be DEBUG, right? | 19:03 |
| nagyz | instead of INFO | 19:03 |
| morganfainberg | since that is sync'd from oslo, but yes. def. open a bug, and tag it as havana-backport-potential | 19:03 |
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| nagyz | sure thing. | 19:03 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, actually wait a sec | 19:04 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, if you set in the config default_log_levels = keystone=DEBUG did it work? | 19:04 |
| nagyz | I can try that. | 19:05 |
| morganfainberg | it should be a viable config option | 19:05 |
| morganfainberg | it is something we should fix, but i am looking for ease of use. | 19:06 |
| nagyz | no, that doesn't help | 19:07 |
| nagyz | hmm | 19:07 |
| nagyz | interesting. | 19:07 |
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| nagyz | wait a set, let me retest it. | 19:07 |
| fabiog | stevemar: pushed the changes | 19:08 |
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| nagyz | yep | 19:08 |
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| nagyz | 2013-10-28 20:07:52.613 29934 DEBUG keystone-all [-] default_log_levels = ['amqplib=WARN', 'sqlalchemy=WARN', 'boto=WARN', 'suds=INFO', 'keystone=INFO', 'eventlet.wsgi.server=WARN'] log_opt_values /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo/config/cfg.py:1941 | 19:08 |
| nagyz | doesn't change it | 19:08 |
| fabiog | morganfainberg: now there is a distinction when is mandatory to use routers and controllers | 19:08 |
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| nagyz | morganfainberg, ok, actually, that does fixes it. | 19:09 |
| nagyz | I added it under [default] with just "log_levels = ...", and that didn't fix it, then I realized I missed the "default" from there | 19:09 |
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| nagyz | added it as a comment | 19:11 |
| nagyz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1245629 | 19:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1245629 in keystone "keystone is ignoring debug=True" [Undecided,New] | 19:11 |
| nagyz | oh, nice. :) | 19:11 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, thanks! | 19:13 |
| morganfainberg | this might just be a doc "fix" | 19:13 |
| morganfainberg | but we should def. fix "Debug" | 19:13 |
| morganfainberg | in the config | 19:13 |
| nagyz | is it possible to mesh-up multiple identity drivers? | 19:13 |
| nagyz | or let's say I do the work, would it be something worthwile? | 19:13 |
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| nagyz | *worthwhile | 19:13 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, you mean, have a store for SQL for users, and a separate store for some ldap users? | 19:13 |
| nagyz | or take any number of identity servers and try them in order until a user is found in any of them | 19:14 |
| nagyz | but yeah | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, we have that partially working in havana | 19:14 |
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| dolphm_afk | morganfainberg: nagyz: what caused this? | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | it is on the roadmap for icehouse for full support. | 19:14 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm_afk, artifact of moving to common logging | 19:14 |
| dolphm_afk | morganfainberg: that was forever ago! | 19:14 |
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| morganfainberg | keystone is set to INFO level by default in the oslo.config log.py file (as it should be() | 19:15 |
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| morganfainberg | we might have picked up a "change" in a subsequent sync | 19:15 |
| nagyz | morganfainberg, but isn't it something easy to implement with a mesh-up driver? it just implements a dummy Identity interface and for each call that it gets it proxies them to the other drivers | 19:15 |
| nagyz | or what am I missing? | 19:15 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: we moved to oslo.config 1.2 final right around h3 | 19:15 |
| nagyz | dolphm, I have no idea what caused this, just this bit me in the ass today :) | 19:15 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, and did we get a subsequent sync of the log.py file? | 19:15 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i am going to check in a moment | 19:15 |
| morganfainberg | but the way to "enable debug" in ekystone is different now. | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | because of that. | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/openstack/common/log.py#L134 is the line that caused the issue. | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, this came with the normal sync of oslo logging. | 19:18 |
| dolphm | damn, that's annoying | 19:18 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, so we can either look at hacking debug=True in the config to "do the right thing" again, or document this new method | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++ yes. | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | annoying | 19:19 |
| nagyz | morganfainberg, so any idea about this mesh-up? :-) if it can be achieved with the havana codebase currently. | 19:20 |
| nagyz | I cannot change our corporate LDAP server | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, so what is the exact behavior you're looking for? | 19:20 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, i want to be sure to direct you down the right path | 19:21 |
| nagyz | morganfainberg, have the service users in local sql while all the normal users in ldap | 19:21 |
| ayoung | stevemar, BTW, that is what you get for asking politely....ignored for an hour or so...what is up? | 19:21 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, can you log that as a bug? | 19:22 |
| nagyz | ayoung, already did: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1245629 | 19:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1245629 in keystone "keystone is ignoring debug=True" [Undecided,New] | 19:22 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, just saw that...I should finish catching up before typing | 19:22 |
| nagyz | :-) | 19:22 |
| nagyz | my first (potentially correct) bug! \o/ | 19:23 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz. nice!! | 19:23 |
| * nagyz is also going to the summit to lurk around | 19:23 | |
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| ayoung | nagyz, so, I suspect that the change should not be setting "default_log_levels" but, as you would expect, the log levle for keystone itself. | 19:24 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, awesome! it should be a good summit | 19:24 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, aye. | 19:24 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, so wrt the hybrid approach. i've done some of this work (for my company), it's... kind of a dirty hack and i've not looked at porting it to havana. in I, it wont be an issue for me | 19:25 |
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| nagyz | morganfainberg, https://github.com/SUSE-Cloud/keystone-hybrid-backend | 19:26 |
| nagyz | this actually does it. | 19:26 |
| nagyz | but it doesn't work with havana | 19:26 |
| nagyz | and I'm not sure why exactly | 19:26 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, this is similar to what i did, i just use some magic in the user attributes (json blob) to identify | 19:26 |
| nagyz | I'm fine with scanning sql first and then ldap | 19:27 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, thats pretty much what i did. | 19:27 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, yuck | 19:27 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, but it is suboptimal | 19:27 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, you don't need that | 19:27 |
| nagyz | ayoung, I'm open to solutions | 19:27 |
| ayoung | nagyz, LDAP Identity bakcend, SQl Assignments backend | 19:28 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, i was going to suggest getting all users into LDAP would be the best course | 19:28 |
| ayoung | nagyz, read only LDAP, | 19:28 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, what ayoung said. | 19:28 |
| morganfainberg | it's far better if you can do that | 19:28 |
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| ayoung | no automatic project creationg, which is ugly anyways | 19:28 |
| nagyz | ayoung, morganfainberg, I agree but as this is our global corporate LDAP server I cannot add users to it | 19:29 |
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| nagyz | so I must have local users :( | 19:29 |
| nagyz | I could add "fake" users but the process takes around 3-4 days... | 19:29 |
| nagyz | :) | 19:29 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, to LDAP? | 19:29 |
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| nagyz | yes. | 19:29 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, that really is the best approach. lest ugly cruft you'll need to rip-out later | 19:30 |
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| nagyz | or if someone can point me to an easy tutorial on having a local ldap server which mirrors a specific part of the tree to the external ldap server (in terms of queries, binds), that'd help | 19:30 |
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| nagyz | but last I checked, it was horrifyingly hard to set up with openldap | 19:30 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, i haven't done that actually. | 19:32 |
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| nagyz | morganfainberg, ok, but in theory, is there anything against writing such a "proxy" identity driver? | 19:33 |
| nagyz | apart from it being ugly. | 19:33 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, no nothing that says don't do it. | 19:35 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, i really wish i could point at the per-domain stuff and say it was ready | 19:36 |
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| nagyz | that's fine. :) | 19:37 |
| nagyz | it doesn't look much work to hack it together | 19:37 |
| nagyz | if I just proxy all the calls to the sql identity driver and then to the ldap one | 19:38 |
| morganfainberg | nagyz, doable./ | 19:39 |
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| morganfainberg | nagyz, but if you could get users into LDAP it would be far better | 19:39 |
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| nagyz | yes, will initiate the process tomorrow | 19:40 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: nagyz: related- https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1245510 | 19:41 |
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| dolphm | to the oslo.config issue | 19:41 |
| ayoung | nagyz, so, set up a local domain for the service users and then an LDAP domain for the LDAP users. I think it will support your needs | 19:41 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: nagyz: actually, maybe not | 19:42 |
| ayoung | nagyz, that is what we are working towards | 19:42 |
| nagyz | ayoung, yes, but it doesn't work with havana, correct? | 19:42 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, we have some issues with multiple LDAP servers, but it should work for just a single one | 19:42 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: that'll be the last time i ask nicely :) | 19:43 |
| ayoung | nagyz, so long as all userids are unique you should be fine. | 19:43 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, would still have major issues with domain scoping. it's not really functional, my cleanup patchset didn't get in =/ | 19:43 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, hmmm | 19:43 |
| stevemar | ayoung: got time to talk about federated identity stuff? | 19:43 |
| ayoung | stevemar, yea | 19:43 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it really isn't viable until icehouse. | 19:43 |
| * ayoung goes to get some more caffeine | 19:43 | |
| stevemar | i got joesavak available too, for a whopping 18 minutes | 19:43 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, that is an issue (use_syslog) with legacy syslog support and logging.conf syslog support | 19:44 |
| joesavak | 16 | 19:44 |
| joesavak | ;) | 19:44 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, it's... inelegant to say the least. | 19:44 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i think | 19:45 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, even if the LDAP domain is the default domain? | 19:45 |
| stevemar | ayoung: q1) how do you want the api specs split up? | 19:45 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, it _might_ work./ but the service users wont be able to do a number of things. not sure what effect it will have | 19:45 |
| ayoung | stevemar, joesavak I think it should be: | 19:45 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, really, it | 19:45 |
| ayoung | one extension for registering an IDP | 19:45 |
| morganfainberg | 's likely to produce wildly undefined behavior | 19:46 |
| tellesnobrega | when creating new tables, do i need to create them anywhere else other than the migration file so i can test it? or on the test the table should be created by itself? | 19:46 |
| ayoung | one extension for mapping | 19:46 |
| tellesnobrega | automatically by the migration | 19:46 |
| ayoung | unless we are 100%commited to linking Idp and mapping together | 19:46 |
| ayoung | not sure if we are | 19:46 |
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| ayoung | then...each of the protocols should have their own extension | 19:46 |
| stevemar | ayoung: both should exist under /contrib? | 19:47 |
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| ayoung | SAML, openid-connect ,whatever | 19:47 |
| ayoung | stevemar, yeah | 19:47 |
| ayoung | stevemar, everything starts under contrib these days | 19:47 |
| joesavak | ayoung OS-FED-IDP (CRUD IDP + upload public key); OS-FED-MAP (from:to - link is IDP/Protocol from IDP to mapping); OS-FED-SAML for authN | 19:47 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it might be worth an attempt to try it in that configuration. i'm just not confident that weird stuff wont happen. | 19:47 |
| stevemar | joesavak... thanks, was just going to write that | 19:47 |
| morganfainberg | in either case. food time here. be back in a bit (and back to reviewing code) | 19:47 |
| ayoung | joesavak, that looks right | 19:47 |
| joesavak | cool. Some pushback is OS-FED-SAML | 19:48 |
| ayoung | joesavak, so, since each protocol requires code, we should be able to enumerate protocols, but not add them | 19:48 |
| joesavak | perhaps having it OS-FED-AUTH instead | 19:48 |
| ayoung | drop FED | 19:48 |
| ayoung | OS-IDP, OS-MAP OS-SAML | 19:48 |
| joesavak | Ok | 19:48 |
| stevemar | what about AUTH? | 19:48 |
| ayoung | joesavak, I think Federation is a core term | 19:48 |
| ayoung | auth-saml? | 19:48 |
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| stevemar | thats better | 19:48 |
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| ayoung | sure | 19:49 |
| joesavak | +1 OS-AUTH-SAML; OS=-AUTH-OPENID? | 19:49 |
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| stevemar | cool | 19:49 |
| ayoung | joesavak, sounds right | 19:49 |
| stevemar | we can split it out | 19:49 |
| stevemar | ayoung: q2: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51980/6/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3-os-fed-idp-ext.md | 19:49 |
| stevemar | you want the protocol data dropped from IDP? | 19:50 |
| ayoung | The ideas the are all falling under FEderation are, if I percieve clearly, really fundamental to Keystone long term. Lets not add a layer of indirection for stuff that is alreayd correclty isolated. | 19:50 |
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| ayoung | so, for example, no mechanism=federated | 19:50 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: referring to the 'federated' method in auth? | 19:51 |
| joesavak | Still need to be able to sniff out what protocol an idp supports | 19:51 |
| ayoung | stevemar, not dropped, but rather we can only enumerated protocols that have code plugins | 19:51 |
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| ayoung | joesavak, right. I think we need to be able to enuermate protocols, but it should be based on a plugin | 19:51 |
| ayoung | we should not be registering protocols on the fly, though | 19:52 |
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| ayoung | so 1. create an IdP. 2 Add Protocols to it... | 19:52 |
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| joesavak | yup. So if i support OS-AUTH-SAML, then I can add the SAML protcol to an idp | 19:52 |
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| ayoung | joesavak, the URL needs to be linked to the tuple idp,protocol | 19:52 |
| stevemar | that seems alright to me | 19:52 |
| joesavak | Yup | 19:53 |
| ayoung | since it might be a separate server...technically IdP is a protocolo specific term, but we are making it a common item in order to conceptually link 2 IdPs that really have the same datasource behind them. | 19:53 |
| stevemar | ayoung: is there a specific term you had in mind instead of "federated" for the auth method? | 19:54 |
| ayoung | stevemar, yeah..the actual protocol used | 19:54 |
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| ayoung | SAML, openid.... | 19:54 |
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| stevemar | m'okay | 19:54 |
| ayoung | stevemar, we just need to document how multistage protocols should act | 19:55 |
| ayoung | that really is part of core...but it can be in its own doc for now, and the SAML doc can reference it. | 19:55 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: well, for now, we only want to support the last stage | 19:55 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: it's docced in our use case that we only need the last one | 19:56 |
| stevemar | joesavak: i have that right? | 19:56 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, and...I'd be ok with punting on the multi-stage thing, but I suspect dchadwick will not | 19:56 |
| joesavak | stevemar - yes - we want to say "phase" t hough | 19:56 |
| stevemar | ayoung: that is tbd then i guess ;) | 19:56 |
| joesavak | and be able to indicate at the POST OS-FED-SAML/tokens call has the "phase"="push | 19:57 |
| joesavak | or something like that | 19:57 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, joesavak so I would document it in the SAML document for now, and we can extract it out into core when we get another multi-stage protocol to support | 19:57 |
| ayoung | so..how does one go about skipping the first couple of phases of SAML? | 19:58 |
| nagyz | ayoung, morganfainberg thanks for the help | 19:58 |
| * ayoung is afraid he knows the answer and won't like it | 19:58 | |
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| joesavak | doc'd here ayoung | 19:58 |
| joesavak | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/federation-flows | 19:58 |
| joesavak | you'd push it to the client | 19:58 |
| nagyz | I'm going to implement the hybrid approach tomorrow and then hopefully this can go live wednesday. :) | 19:58 |
| ayoung | nagyz, I want you to know that I am reading the Two Towers to my son. I keep reading your Nick as Nazgul. | 19:58 |
| nagyz | hehe :) | 19:59 |
| joesavak | gotta run (meeting) be back in an hour | 19:59 |
| nagyz | we just finished watching the return of the king extended version (4 and a half hours!) with my girlfriend | 19:59 |
| nagyz | last weekend | 19:59 |
| nagyz | it was awesome. | 19:59 |
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| ayoung | nagyz, I hope you read the book first | 19:59 |
| nagyz | yep, I did | 19:59 |
| wink | ayoung: oh my, how many hours is that, roughly? :) | 20:00 |
| nagyz | and I usually use the easier to pronounce nick "zoltan", but that's not registered to me on freenode... :) | 20:00 |
| ayoung | nagyz, so...you see us discussing SAML. It turns out there is an Apache module for SAML called mod_mellon.... | 20:00 |
| nagyz | why would SAML work in my case? wouldn't I need a federated identity service first on top of LDAP for that? | 20:00 |
| ayoung | nagyz, no | 20:01 |
| ayoung | nagyz, mellon.... | 20:01 |
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| ayoung | http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1218:_Doors_of_Durin | 20:01 |
| nagyz | ah | 20:01 |
| nagyz | :D | 20:01 |
| ayoung | Yeah, someone is an even larger geek than I | 20:02 |
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| nagyz | :) | 20:02 |
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| nagyz | so have a good day/night, whatever it is in your timezone guys | 20:02 |
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| ayoung | Can't figure out how Zoltan could be taken already. Not like it is the most common name in a fairly tech savvy country or anything | 20:03 |
| nagyz | talk to you later, I think I'll come back often now that I should contribute some code too... :) | 20:03 |
| ayoung | gnight... | 20:03 |
| ayoung | nagyz, that would be great | 20:03 |
| nagyz | finally joined ibm-stackers a few weeks ago | 20:03 |
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| nagyz | but was busy traveling | 20:03 |
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| nagyz | night! | 20:04 |
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| ayoung | joesavak, have you just converted SAML into a Bearer token? | 20:05 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, stevemar, what is the .mailmap file for? /me is confused | 20:05 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: contributor analytics, afaik | 20:06 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, oh. i see. *shrug* sure thing (noticed it is fairly... uhm... small compared to the number of contributors) | 20:06 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-shortlog.html | 20:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ah thanks. | 20:07 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, its for once I get fired and can't use my redhat email anymore | 20:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, LOL | 20:07 |
| morganfainberg | oh | 20:08 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: it effectively operates cross-project | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, ping. | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, sure. just hadn't looked closely and saw someone add something to it in another commit | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, cool | 20:08 |
| isd | ayoung: I'm working on the issue I talked to you about a few days ago. I'm having a hard time finding a reasonable way to abstract the exception conversion code; the way the arguments get converted doesn't have much of a pattern. So far the best I've come up with involves passing a lambda to the decorator, which I'm not happy with. Do you have any thoughts on the matter? | 20:08 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, i really don't know | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, ^ | 20:08 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, yeah, reading now, was afk | 20:08 |
| ayoung | isd, give it up and spend your time doing something that makes you feel more fulfilled? | 20:10 |
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| ayoung | isd, might I suggest a career in piracy? | 20:11 |
| ayoung | You'd make a great Dread Pirate...oh, wait, sorry, wrong movie. | 20:11 |
| ayoung | isd, I need more context | 20:11 |
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| isd | ayoung: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1243812 | 20:14 |
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| ayoung | isd, how many variations are there? Instead of a lambda, what would happen if you needed multiple decorators? | 20:15 |
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| isd | ayoung: 3 or 4 - two of the variants are pretty close, might be able to be done with just an extra parameter. but there are only 6 methods in the first place... | 20:18 |
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| ayoung | isd, could it be something done in the exceptions themselves? | 20:19 |
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| isd | ayoung: I don't see how; the arguments aren't passed in to the thing that generates the exception. | 20:25 |
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| gyee | morganfainberg, here, sorry I was afk | 20:27 |
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| ayoung | gyee, I like | 20:41 |
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| ayoung | gyee, so mod_ssl or mod_nss, client cert, external...right? | 20:42 |
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| gyee | ayoung, yes | 20:49 |
| gyee | 1) client using two way SSL authenticate to Apache/Keystone | 20:50 |
| ayoung | gyee, BTW you need this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52732/1 | 20:50 |
| gyee | 2) Apache set the SSL_* in the request environ | 20:50 |
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| ayoung | gyee, we are documenting the env vars for this | 20:50 |
| gyee | 3) Keystone middleware translate them into auth_context | 20:50 |
| gyee | ayoung, yes http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_ssl.html | 20:51 |
| ayoung | http://www.freeipa.org/page/Environment_Variables#X.509_Authentication | 20:51 |
| ayoung | gyee, not just....don't forget about NSS | 20:51 |
| gyee | i.e map SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_CN to username | 20:51 |
| gyee | OU to project | 20:52 |
| gyee | O to domain | 20:52 |
| gyee | but all configurable | 20:52 |
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| gyee | SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_CN is set by Apache | 20:52 |
| ayoung | gyee, so dchadwick thought we could using the mapping blueprint to implement | 20:52 |
| gyee | ayoung, sure, its all internal changes | 20:53 |
| ayoung | gyee, and CERN is doing this kind of thing already. I think this is the right approach | 20:53 |
| gyee | ayoung, yeah, I figure this is a no brainer | 20:54 |
| ayoung | let me address the comments and resubmit my patch on it | 20:54 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee, i forgot what i was going to ask you...... i think | 21:04 |
| aspiers | lifeless: currently fixtures.FakeLogger() allows a choice of format string, but the new handler always has a Formatter() instance. Would it make sense to allow the constructor to accept a formatter class (or instance) as a parameter, in order to be more flexible? | 21:04 |
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| lifeless | aspiers: if you need it sure, though since it's a test - the point is you're going to introspect the output - so I'm not sure why you'd want different formatters? | 21:05 |
| aspiers | lifeless: because I just spent two hours trying to figure out where messages like "1 -> 2" come from in the nova unit tests :) | 21:05 |
| lifeless | aspiers: ouch | 21:06 |
| aspiers | lifeless: if they'd been preceded by migrate.versioning.api or whatever, I'd have understood straight away | 21:06 |
| aspiers | in fairness, I should have guessed anyway, but hey, I'm still a newb :) | 21:07 |
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| aspiers | lifeless: so I was wondering if passing in a nova.openstack.common.log.ContextFormatter might address that | 21:08 |
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| aspiers | maybe that's overkill? | 21:08 |
| lifeless | aspiers: maybe ... not really for me to say | 21:08 |
| lifeless | from a Fixtures perspective i'm happy for it to be more flexible. | 21:09 |
| lifeless | Suggest a patch | 21:09 |
| aspiers | ok, thanks! | 21:09 |
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| aspiers | lifeless: hmm actually FakeLogger(format='%(levelname)s %(name)s %(message)s') is probably good enough for now, but I'll suggest a patch to fixtures if I change my mind | 21:16 |
| lifeless | aspiers: ok :) | 21:16 |
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| devananda | jgriffith: ping | 21:25 |
| jgriffith | devananda: pong | 21:26 |
| devananda | jgriffith: i can shuffle my three middle slots easily | 21:26 |
| devananda | jgriffith: does taht help you at all? | 21:26 |
| jgriffith | devananda: you mean shuffle within the block you have? | 21:27 |
| jgriffith | devananda: I think we overlap arleady don't we? | 21:27 |
| devananda | yes, within my block on thurs | 21:27 |
| devananda | jgriffith: yae, our thursdays are a complete overlap | 21:27 |
| jgriffith | devananda: :( | 21:27 |
| devananda | jgriffith: and i _only_ have thursday | 21:27 |
| jgriffith | devananda: so no matter what it's a matter of me skipping a Cinder session | 21:28 |
| jgriffith | devananda: but that's doable, the 5:20 thing I can't skip | 21:28 |
| devananda | unless someone else swaps with one of those | 21:28 |
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| jgriffith | devananda: sounds like there's no need for you to juggle anything around any more than you already have | 21:28 |
| devananda | k k | 21:29 |
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| jgriffith | devananda: I'd like to swap my block out with neutron if possible, but not looking promising | 21:29 |
| devananda | jgriffith: well, let me know if there's anything else i can do | 21:30 |
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| jgriffith | devananda: appreciate it!! | 21:31 |
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| kui | lifeless: I have summitted new patch for testtools, here it is: https://github.com/testing-cabal/testtools/pull/60 | 21:38 |
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| kui | lifeless: Would you review it please ? | 21:39 |
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| lifeless | kui: will do shortly, thanks for pinging me | 21:41 |
| kui | lifeless: :) | 21:41 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: hi | 22:15 |
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| jamielennox | dstanek: im sort of around, give me 15 min | 22:21 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: np | 22:21 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, ping | 22:22 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: same call as me, 15 min | 22:23 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, yeah not a rush, figured i'd run something by him before implementing it. | 22:24 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, thanks :) | 22:24 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: i'm going to submit serveral reviews that begin to fix our tests | 22:27 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i shall look for them. | 22:27 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, are you heartset on a decorator for the cache test skip? or would the same mechanism as skip_if_no_ipv6 be sufficient? (just call self.skip_if_cache_disabled() in the test) | 22:44 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, both aren't hard to implement, the decorator is a little more indirect. | 22:44 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, ah nvm, going w/ the decorator route. | 22:44 |
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| jamielennox | isnt ipv6 a decorator already? it should probably be | 22:44 |
| morganfainberg | nope | 22:45 |
| morganfainberg | it's called as self.skip_if_no_ipv6() within the test | 22:45 |
| jamielennox | you can do skip test without self, a decorator would be good there | 22:45 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, yeah | 22:45 |
| morganfainberg | i just need to dig up the right exception | 22:46 |
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| jamielennox | dstanek: sorry, that went longer than i expected | 22:58 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: np, i was just going to tell you what i found in regards to your tests issue | 23:31 |
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| jamielennox | dstanek: you solved it? | 23:31 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: i don't think so, but i did identify a bunch of issues with our tests | 23:32 |
| dstanek | jamielennox: the biggest problem was our use of setup | 23:32 |
| jamielennox | dstanek: there are a lot of issues with our tests | 23:32 |
| dstanek | jamielennox: i plan on fixing them all! | 23:32 |
| jamielennox | this was part of the reason to seperate things out, see if we can have a structural seperation between v3 and v2 | 23:32 |
| jamielennox | remove all of the crap that is just not really used | 23:33 |
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| jamielennox | dstanek: if you want them you're welcome to it, it's been on my list for ages | 23:33 |
| jamielennox | i even proposed a bunch of seperation ages ago, when it was much easier | 23:34 |
| dstanek | jamielennox: i'm also tired of the 300 second test runs :-) | 23:34 |
| jamielennox | right | 23:34 |
| dstanek | jamielennox: this is the big one that may have been causing issues https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54210/ | 23:34 |
| jamielennox | do you know what the cause is then? best i could see is that somewhere a new instance of the controller was being created | 23:35 |
| dstanek | i have 4 more patches to fix up that fix more stuff in the tests | 23:35 |
| dstanek | jamielennox: we call load_backends() several times during the course of a single test | 23:35 |
| dstanek | we also load the same data serveral time during the same test | 23:36 |
| jamielennox | yep, i was chasing that down | 23:36 |
| jamielennox | but to the best i could see we were at least completely overriding the old setup and i couldn't find anywhere the old reference would be called from | 23:36 |
| dstanek | jamielennox: so far removing some of that duplicate work took off about 10% of the total time | 23:36 |
| jamielennox | wow, didn't expect that much | 23:36 |
| jamielennox | hey, fixtures! you are pretty much attacking my TODO list | 23:37 |
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| jamielennox | now to get rid of mox all together | 23:38 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, NICE 10% savings is big | 23:39 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i'll look over your patches a bit later on, just had an emergency here i need to address :( | 23:40 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox, morganfainberg: my runs were a little over 300 seconds before so every % helps | 23:42 |
| jamielennox | dstanek: i'm not a fan of the rest.py file name, call if restful_test_case.py or something and then from import RestfulTestCase from tests/__init__ | 23:42 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: np | 23:42 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: i was thinking that it may eventually into a rest package with fixtures, matches and other things related to rest tests | 23:43 |
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| jamielennox | that's an awesome start | 23:45 |
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| jamielennox | dstanek: out of interest do you know if you rebase my change onto those if it will run? | 23:46 |
| jamielennox | i can check that, but i thought you might have tried already | 23:46 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: i have not tried, but i suspect they still may have trouble | 23:47 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: i'm still debugging a case where the fixtures are getting run at least twice | 23:47 |
| jamielennox | right, it stops 1 load_backend but i don't think it will solve the issue | 23:47 |
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| dstanek | jamielennox: after i get these last few things figured out i'll try your patch | 23:51 |
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