Thursday, 2013-12-19

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sdaguejgriffith: volume transfers aren't tenant scoped?00:33
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sdaguefor listing00:33
chandankumarsdague, hello00:34
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sdaguechandankumar: hey00:36
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chandankumarsdague, for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/120120100:37
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1201201 in tempest "Document how to install tempest without devstack" [Wishlist,Confirmed]00:37
chandankumarwhich helper script you are telling about00:37
chandankumaror do i need to create a new one to install tempest without devstack?00:37
sdaguechandankumar: so actually I think it should be a document00:38
sdaguebecause different people are going to have different ways to do that00:39
sdagueso it would go into doc/source/ as a new .rst file and would publish to the website00:39
jkyleso, during a nova volume-attach operation the call sequence has nova-compute make a call to cinder via the cinder-api00:39
jkyleit uses the method cinderclient to retrieve the client object found in /nova/volume/cinder.py00:40
jkylewhich then jumps here: cinderclient/client.py00:40
jkylethe client object returned has a context of public, so it retrieves the public interface for the cinder-api00:41
chandankumarsdague, getting that00:41
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jkyleshouldn't this be the internal interface?00:41
jkylewhat I'm seeing is that, in some cases, if the public interface is hit the packet is captured by the quantum routing rules and gets swallowed. resulting in a failed call00:42
chandankumarsdague, it contains the documentation of a helper script that will do the installation00:42
chandankumarsdague, to process to create the review i got.00:42
jkyleif you're proxying the public api on the controller over 44300:43
jkyleor 80 for that matter00:43
sdaguechandankumar: do I'd really like it to be more instructions of how you'd do it manually00:43
sdagueso basically starting with the sample config00:43
sdagueand explaining some of the most needed things to change for a real environment00:43
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sdaguebecause a lot of it is about your environment, and what you want to test00:44
sdagueanyway, I have to run to dinner00:45
chandankumarsdague, yes got that what i have to write.00:45
jkyleI guess the question is, when communication occurs from one internal service (nova-compute) to another (cinder-api) should this be using the public interface or the internal?00:45
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jaypipeslifeless: you around?03:23
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lifelessjaypipes: hi04:57
lifelessjaypipes: mid family time, but will have more b/w soon04:57
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jaypipeslifeless: not a worry.05:05
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jaypipeslifeless: was just wanting to shoot the breeze about some thoughts I had about hierarchical test dependencies, but I'll be heading to bed here in a bit... not a big deal.05:06
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lifelessjaypipes: how about you shoot and leave?05:07
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jaypipeslifeless: heh, I've been wrestling with Keystone unit tests for the better part of 2 hours, and I'm kinda beat :) there's loads of time later to discuss with ya -- or on the mailing list.05:08
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* jaypipes not really sure why I call the unit tests in Keystone... they aren't unit tests... they are so interdependent and cross-module it's nuts.05:11
StevenKfunctional tests05:12
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StevenKLaunchpad is full of them, and I hates them05:12
jaypipesStevenK: ya. slow everything down to a crawl and don't offer any incremental benefit IMO05:13
tejuhi....anyone knows how to list/create cinder volumes in dashboard?05:13
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morganfainbergjaypipes, so what you're saying is "fun"*  (* = for certain values of WTF)05:28
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stevemarteju, should be on the left side, 'instances and volumes'05:29
morganfainbergjaypipes, though I'm glad we have smart people looking at those tests.05:29
stevemarteju: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/training-guides/content/figures/5/figures/image10.jpg05:29
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stevemarmorganfainberg: i'm not liking openid connect05:30
jaypipesmorganfainberg: lol. yeah, not fun at all...05:30
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morganfainbergstevemar, I'll stay far far away from that stuff for the time being05:30
stevemarmorganfainberg, oh cmon, don't want to be a souning board? :P05:31
stevemarsounding*05:31
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morganfainberglol sure i'll be a sounding board05:34
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morganfainbergstevemar, but... be warned, it's been a long day, i'm sleepy :P05:35
morganfainbergmight fall alseep05:35
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lifelessjaypipes: ack06:33
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jorisroovershi everyone, I'm looking for some help with rebasing a patch onto a different patch, I've never done this before and can't entirely figure it out by myself...09:43
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bogdandohello. What do you think about https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/904307, 'ident' introduced in Python 3.3 (http://bugs.python.org/issue12419) and the options to implement it in oslo.logging?10:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 904307 in oslo "Application/server name not available in service logs" [Wishlist,Confirmed]10:10
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bogdandodo RFC3164 & RFC5424 requirements worth some efforts :-) ?10:12
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bogdandowhat if use oslo adapters instead of 3.3's ident?10:33
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bogdandocould https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/log.py#L213-L214 be used for extracting aplication name as well?11:27
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bogdandowhat is the common method to introduce new param for ContextAdapter ?11:35
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bogdandoplease reivew https://review.openstack.org/6309411:51
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flaper87sdague: ping12:08
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flaper87sdague: I wanted to know if you read my comment w.r.t https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59177/12:08
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sdagueflaper87: I hadn't12:15
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sdagueso I don't understand why that can't be the glance default12:15
sdaguein glance12:15
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flaper87sdague: it'll be, that's my point. There's a patch that removes all un-necessary stores12:17
flaper87but devstack tests use swift12:17
flaper87(and some of glance's test do as well)12:17
flaper87but the ones in glance needing swift enabled do it at run time12:18
flaper87runtime12:18
sdagueflaper87: so what's the new upstream default?12:18
flaper87sdague: this is glance's patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59150/12:19
flaper87I submited it before changing devstack12:19
flaper87but without the devstack change, it'll keep failing12:19
flaper87sdague: file + http12:20
flaper87the ones that don't require any extra configuration12:20
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flaper87I also need markwash to chime in there12:20
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flaper87but I wanted to make sure you understand why I submited the devstack patch12:21
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sdagueflaper87: ok, so it should be at least put behind the if for swift in that case12:22
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flaper87sdague: that's fair! Thanks! Do you mind adding a comment and s/-2/-1/ ?12:23
sdaguewill do12:23
flaper87sdague: thank you!12:23
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tejucan anyone give an example for how to use REST API to list users?13:04
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noorulteju: Are you looking for http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-identity.html ?13:10
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rohitkis the openstack common code in glance not in sync with oslo?13:22
tejunoorul: give me one example...13:23
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noorulteju: What example are you looking for?13:27
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tejunoorul : can u provide an example for REST API using CURL....the response should get me a token13:28
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noorulteju: See the implementation in https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient13:28
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tejunoorul: that's python client API....13:29
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noorulteju: It has CLI13:29
tejunoorul: can i use CURL command to get the list of users??13:30
noorulteju: Not sure13:30
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sdagueteju: you probably want http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-identity-service/2.0/content/Overview-Identity-Service-API-d1e62.html instead of the api ref site13:36
noorulteju: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/api_curl_examples.html13:37
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tellesnobregadolphm: i tried to use the ?domain_id=default still didnt work using the domain_id:%(domain_id)s as a rule14:00
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tejunoorul: thanks14:01
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noorulteju: np14:02
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tejunoorul : one last question....i created a cinder volume with size 1G.....when i exec the command tgt-admin --show  the o/p has....Size: 1074 MB, Block size: 512...any idea why the size is a bit more??14:05
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dstanekteju: did you find an example of what you are looking for?14:13
noorulteju: Not sure14:13
tejudstanek: yes....thanks14:13
tejunoorul: np14:13
tejunoorul: thanks14:13
tejunoorul : bye14:13
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Andrei89Hello...can someone help me configure the network of my Virtual Machine...I want to deploy Openstack with Devstack14:29
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hughsaundershey, I pushed a new patchset to an existing review by mistake. I want to push the previous patch set back, but I get a git error "no changes made" how can I avoid this and revert to the previous patchset?14:41
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hughsaundersAndrei89: NAT networking should be fine if you want to access openstack from within the devstack VM, will need to forward ports if you want to connect to it externally.14:42
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dstanekhughsaunders: maybe ask in #openstack-infra they may be able to help14:43
hughsaundershey dstanek :)14:43
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dstanekhi hughsaunders, long time no chat14:43
hughsaundersI'll try -infra14:44
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markwashbswartz: did that help?15:03
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mriedemcan anyone clarify why some projects have openstack.common.db.sqlalchemy.test_migrations from oslo-incubator but others don't? i thought in general we didn't sync over tests from o-i.  glance has test_migrations but cinder and nova don't.15:06
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bswartzmarkwash: I ended my meeting and the bot restarted your meeting >_<15:49
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bswartzmarkwash: we might need tech support to give the bot a swift kick (no pun intended)15:51
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yaguangdprince, could you please help review this patch  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51793/, waits for a long time to get a core review, thanks.16:06
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bknudsonLooking at a jenkins failure in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63006/ ...16:49
bknudsoncheck-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full failed16:49
bknudsonThe log shows "Ran 2051 tests" .. "OK (skipped=115)", then 3 mins later "Build timed out (after 90 minutes)"16:49
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bknudsonSo looks like it worked but the process didn't exit, or runner didn't notice process exited.16:49
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bknudsonLooks similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1258682 but there's no failed tests.16:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1258682 in tempest "timeout causing gate-tempest-dsvm-full to fail" [Undecided,Invalid]16:51
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bknudsonsdague: I was lunching.17:55
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bknudsonsdague: you were discussing https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/keystoneclient-api ?18:00
sdagueyeh18:00
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sdaguethat definitely needs some cleanup up on the content since various discussions18:00
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bknudsonthat one looks like it's got too much in it to me18:02
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kgriffsquestion for pecan folks18:14
kgriffsif any are in teh house18:14
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dsantos_hi, is it possible to get a unscoped token using Keystone V3?19:00
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dolphmdsantos_: at the moment - yes. i've proposed that change during icehouse, however :)19:07
dolphmdsantos_: just don't specify a "scope" during auth19:07
dolphmdsantos_: you also need to avoid having a default project ID19:07
dolphmdsantos_: otherwise, you get auto-scoped to that project19:08
ayoungdolphm, as a favor, can you stop marking Blueprints as obsolete:  the BP mechanism then makes them un-searchable, and we can't refer to them in the future,  for example, I get a 404 when trying to refer to Arvind's BP:   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/service-scoped-role-definition19:08
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dolphmayoung: hrm... what's the alternative?19:09
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ayoungdolphm, I'm not sure.  Priorty "Not"?19:09
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ayoungdefinition Superseded?19:10
dolphmayoung: does superseded not have the same effect? (404)19:10
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ayounglet me test...19:11
dolphmayoung: besides the whole blueprint system being terrible, Not seems okay with me (although, they'll pile up in the list of blueprints forever, but at least that's sortable?)19:11
ayoungdolphm, yeah...and we can obsolete them once the discussion over them has died down.19:12
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dolphmayoung: i've been wondering if we could take our approach for the API doc (using gerrit) one step further and supplant as much of our use of blueprints as possible... but i have to give ttx a way to track progress, cross-project dependencies, etc still19:13
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dolphmayoung: so, make a sweep around release time to clean up idle Priority: Not blueprints as Obsolete?19:14
ayoungdolphm, yeah, this is definitely a problem with the BP mechanism.  In the past, I've done the "Everything goes in the bug tracker" approach myself.19:14
ayoungdolphm, sounds good19:15
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dolphmayoung: done19:15
dolphmayoung: if you test superseded behaves differently, let me know. i need to break a couple blueprints down and supersede them this week :)19:16
ayoungdolphm, we'll tell anyone that starts modifying their own priorities that if they continue to do so, we will then tag them as obsoltet.19:16
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ayounghttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/certmonger19:16
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ayoungbroken19:17
ayoungif you don't ahve something in the "superseded by" field it marks its status  as non started19:17
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dolphmayoung: Implementation Status?19:18
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ayoungdolphm, no, the BP status filed itself.19:19
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dolphmayoung: ah, yeah that one's not editable... i have no idea how that one behaves19:19
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ayoungdolphm, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/endpoint-versioning219:21
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ayoungmarks it as complete, and links to what it is superseded by...not really appropriate for us19:21
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dolphmayoung: appropriate sometimes19:22
ayoungOh, yes...just not as a "this is not going to happen"  indicator...19:22
dolphmayoung: ++19:22
ayoungdolphm, so, what should we do about the versions on the endpoints?  I know we want discover for the new clients, but old clients are going to expect the versions there.  Do we do a new set of endpoings for the unversioned urls?19:23
dsantos_dolphm: thanks... I got a token without specifying the scope but I was using the default admin user. I'm not sure whether I got an auto-scoped token or a unscoped token.19:23
ayoungThere is "how it should work" and then there is "supporting 2 releases back"19:23
dolphmayoung: so, my primary objection (that i don't think i've voiced) is doing the manipulation silently19:24
ayoungdolphm, ah...19:24
dolphmayoung: if it was like --i-know-my-catalog-is-broken to opt in...19:24
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ayoungok...I can work with that19:24
dolphmayoung: i really don't want to foster user expectations that versioned endpoints in the catalog makes any sense, and that the clients will happily adapt19:25
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dolphmayoung: because the client is having to do sheer guesswork to resolve the situation. that guesswork shouldn't be status quo19:25
ayoungI was thinking that we state "We will support dealing with V2.0 in your urls for now...once V2 is dead, we will consider it an error."19:26
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ayoungyeah I fully admit this is a hack for a moment in time19:26
dolphmayoung: even like --management-url=http://override-with-an-unversioned-endpoint/ ?19:26
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dolphmayoung: (it's the management URL / "admin" endpoint in keystoneclient you're having to deal with, right?)19:27
ayoungdolphm, yes19:27
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dolphmayoung: can --os-endpoint not serve to provide the override?19:28
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ayoungIt would work for some use cases.  It does negate the value of the service catalog...but maybe we don't care19:29
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ayoungdolphm, how about an option in token creation to strip all versions off of all URLs out of the service catalog?19:30
ayoungBreak everyone equally19:30
dolphmayoung: service side or client side? lol19:30
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dolphmside note- i was thinking about writing a catalog debug tool to authenticate with keystone and spit out a bunch of guesses about how your deployment is doing it wrong19:31
ayoungOK, so I think I would like to preserve the following:  A)  get the URL from the service catalog, not know3 it ahead of time.  B)  Not require an additional round trip to perform discovery on the service catalog.19:32
ayoungdolphm, that would be useful19:32
dolphme.g. "idetnity" is not a known service type; "http://this/v2.0/" appears to be a versioned URL which is not a recommended best practice; etc19:32
dolphmbut provide some level of recognition for a bunch of services19:33
dolphmB) goes away with caching ;)19:33
ayoungIf we do unversioned URLs, are you OK with the client appending the /v3  for v3 api calls, or do you think we need another round trip of discovery?19:34
ayoungcaching has a whole set of design issues we need to discuss, though.  For the CLI, in memory caching is not sufficient, and then we need to say "how long do we cache for:"  "where do we store the cache" and "how do we share the cache."  I'd like to not have to address those questions just now.19:35
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dolphmayoung: discovery. i've already seen deployments writing their own paste config to use /v3.0/ and another changing /v2.0/ to /v2/ ... so you're proposing to break those deployments that technically aren't doing anything wrong19:35
ayoungWell, the spec does say specificially /v3, but that is a quibble19:36
dolphmayoung: well, it doesn't yet actually19:36
dolphmayoung: i proposed that recently though19:36
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ayoungdolphm, actually, some of the APIs do:  https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#users-v3users19:37
ayoungI'm almost OK with a lesser hack that is confined to the V3 API client, that will only chop the /v2.0 off of the URL, and spew a warning that it was given a versioned URL19:39
ayoungleave the V2.0 API Client to die a alone.  In the rain.19:39
dolphmayoung: ah, you're right. i had revised all the examples at the bottom of the doc19:39
dolphmayoung: ++ that sounds much better to me19:39
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ayoungActually, that makes them leave in the /v2.0.  I was shooting for "remove the /v2.0"  abut not have to do discovery to get to /v3.  Would spewing a warning when chopping the URL be sufficient?19:41
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ayoungOr would we be breaking contract with the v2.0 people19:41
dolphmayoung: now i'm not sure i follow... why does that require anyone to use/provide a /v2.0/ endpoint for v3?19:42
dolphmayoung: that's definitely not desirable19:42
ayoungah..ok, let me see if I can make this clear:  right now, the clients all require the /v2.0 on the endpoint in order to properly compose the urls19:43
ayoungor /v3 for that API19:43
ayoungwe want them to go versionless19:43
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ayoungright now, if we tell them to go versionless, the older clients will break19:43
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dolphmayoung: right; even with our current client, they'll break19:44
dolphm(which is why i want to fix that first)19:44
ayoungbut if the new client allows people to go versionless, but compains if they havea version, we nagware them toward versionlessness19:44
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ayoungthe thing is, we can't tell from a response whether it is from a V2 or V3 api.  Looking at the url is a heurisitc, I admit, but it is a pretty safe one.  Now, the assumption that the "right" v2 url would be += "/v2.0" might not be a safe assumption19:46
dolphmayoung: "we can't tell from a response whether it is from a V2 or V3 api" ? they both identify themselves19:48
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ayoungGET someurl/users  ?19:49
dolphmayoung: oh no, you have do discovery first lol19:49
dolphmayoung: you're putting way too much effort into skipping a near trivial step lol19:50
ayoung"the root of all evil?"19:50
dsantos_dolphm: I was making some tests and I saw that if I have a v3 unscoped token I cannot get the projects by /v3/projects, but if I have a v2.0 unscoped token I can do /v2.0/tenants. Actually, even with the v3 token I can access the /v2.0/tenants uri. Is that a expected behavior?19:50
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ayoungOK...so strip the version off the url, then do a GET on the endpoint and see what versions it supports, select the version that we want.19:51
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ayoungdsantos_, pure chance19:51
ayoungthe URLs overlap, but return the same data19:51
dolphmdsantos_: yes; those calls are completely different... see the 'what's new in v3' section of the v3 api doc19:51
ayoungit was doing a V2.0 Get19:51
dolphmayoung: let's table this for tomorrow; i'm going to poke around with a demo of how i think it should behave19:52
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ayoungdolphm, sounds good.  At least I understand where you are coming from.19:52
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ayoungdolphm, let me give the discover thin a hack...I am set up for that dev already..  Can you convert the -2 to a -1 so I can reuse the review?19:53
dsantos_ayoung, dolphm: oh thanks... my mistake :)19:53
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/62801/19:53
ayoungdsantos_, so a V2  token can be used with the V3 api, and vice versa.  How you get the token is based on $AUTH_URL  but then addtional calls are made based on the "admin" endpoint in the service catalog.19:55
dolphmayoung: i haven't digested the idea yet, but i also got the suggestion to use an "unversioned" region, so that discovery-aware clients can have a clean catalog to work with19:55
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dolphmayoung: sounds dependent on GET /v3/catalog being implemented first though, as it would obviously double the size of the catalog19:55
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ayoungI think we "forgive" versioned urls, but only until v2 is dead19:56
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ayoungmaybe we forgive "/v2.0" urls only....19:56
dsantos_ayoung: I understand... I asked that because I'm searching about scoped tokens and seeing which capabilities an admin or a user have using a domain scoped token and a project scoped token19:56
ayoungdsantos_, I've been monitoring the discussion...good work there19:57
ayoungits been a point of confusion for some time now19:57
dsantos_if I understood correctly, using a project scoped token the admin has full access to the domains, projects, users and so on19:58
ayoungdsantos_, based on the default policy.json file, yes19:58
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ayoungdsantos_, that is something we are trying to replace with the cloudsample version, but we can't break everything for everyone...price we pay for having users, dagnabit19:59
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dolphmdsantos_: the 'admin' role is basically magical in keystone's default policy, and ultimately grants total control over the entire deployment19:59
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dsantos_ayoung: sure, that what I meant. Sorry XD20:01
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ayoungdsantos_, so we need to make sure that the cloudsample one is well debugged, understood, etc....20:03
ayoungthat is what I was getting at, I've seen you;ve been hacking on that, and that is ++good20:04
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dsantos_ayoung: I see20:04
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ayoungdolphm, can you remove the obsolete tag from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/service-scoped-role-definition20:14
ayoungand the others listed on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/service-scoped-tokens20:14
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ayoungI'll tag those as superseded20:14
dolphmayoung: if you can give me a link to it :-/20:14
dolphmi swear there's another link format for blueprints that's permament20:15
ayounghmmm OK, I think I found what I was looking for here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/name-spaced-roles anyway20:17
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dolphmayoung: i can't tell the difference between all those blueprints anymore anyway :(20:19
ayoungdolphm, yeah, that is part of the problem.20:19
bknudsondoes keystone have to print "WARNING log deprecated Deprecated: v2 API is deprecated as of Icehouse in favor of v3 API and may be removed in K." for every v2 request it handles? or is once enough?20:20
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dolphmbknudson: i wanted to talk about that next :)20:21
dolphmbknudson: does once per API unique operation sound good?20:22
bknudsonnow that there's a lot less noise in the logging it's noticeable.20:22
dolphmbknudson: definitely20:22
bknudsondolphm: that sounds good if we say which API it was20:22
dolphmbknudson: i'd also like to append a header to the response like X-Deprecation-Warning or something, that can convey the same thing back to the client...20:23
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dolphm(if there's some sort of HTTP standard there, i'd love to utilize it... i have to imagine there is, but i'm not familiar with one)20:24
bknudsondolphm: sounds interesting... we'd want to define that in the api.20:25
bknudsondolphm: I haven't seen anything like that.20:27
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dolphmbknudson: yeah... this is all useless if we're not capable of getting warnings back to end users20:30
bknudsondolphm: putting it in the keystone server log at least tells the admin there are clients still out there.20:31
bknudsonNot sure if we were going to make v2 optional / disable-able?20:32
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bknudsonbut if you're running for a while and don't get the warning then go ahead and disable it.20:32
bknudsonwe could also put the client ip in there20:32
dolphmbknudson: yeah.. it needs to be "more disable-able" :) you can remove it from the pipeline at least20:33
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dolphmayoung: cached identity api version discovery https://gist.github.com/dolph/804599620:49
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dolphmayoung: just realized you probably have to "mkdir ~/version-discovery/" first20:51
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ayoungdolphm, yeah...most of that exists in keystoneclient/discover.py  we just need to reuse it once we get back the service catalog20:51
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ayoungbut the cache part yeah20:51
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dolphmayoung: that's all i really wanted to illustrate20:51
ayoung~/.keystoneclient20:51
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ayoungdolphm, I was thinking that we would probably be able to cache most GET requests20:52
ayoungso GET /users/{id} would be cached for...a short period of time...20:52
ayounguse the appropraite headers20:53
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dolphmayoung: ++20:53
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ayoungdolphm, actually, that would be useful now, to avoid the discovery lookup.20:56
ayoungthen we extend it to look up the version specific URL based on what comes back from the service catalog20:56
ayoungas a second patch20:56
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bknudsonwhy would I be looking up the same user all the time?21:01
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jd__sdague: I just reverified over #1262153 so I'm not sure it's that invalid21:28
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sdaguejd__: it's an invalid tempest bug21:29
jd__sdague: but maybe it's one in Heat rather?21:29
sdaguetempest is not a general dumping ground for any gate failure21:30
sdaguejd__: could b21:30
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jd__sdague: sure, my point was just that it may be actually better to reassign than tag invalid :)21:30
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sdaguejd__: 60+% of the bugs registered against tempest are in that category21:31
sdagueso I've drawn a line that we are not the triaging team for all of openstack21:31
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jd__ok, I'll do that then :)21:31
jd__I feel your pain21:31
sdaguethanks :)21:31
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jd__funny thing that the reporter is therve who's in heat-core, isn't it therve21:32
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sdaguebnemec: you about?21:50
bnemecsdague: Yep21:50
sdagueany chance I could get you to whip up a devstack change that would set the variable listed here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61037/5 ?21:51
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sdagueso then we could actually self test that21:51
sdaguethat actually assumes that we'd be able to detect it correctly at the end of a devstack run with neutron21:53
bnemecsdague: I can probably do that.21:53
bnemecTests were failing on me when I ran with it, so I think it would be detected fine.21:53
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sdaguecool, if we slide in the devstack change, then we'd be able to recheck that tempest change, and know if it worked21:55
sdagueI'm also not entirely keen on it being UUID vs. cidr specification, which I left as a comment21:55
sdaguejust now21:55
sdaguebut we can revisit that21:55
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ayoungdolphm, dagnabit, I have a circular reference.  discovery points to httpclient but now we want to do discovery from httpclient, too21:56
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PaulManyone from RAX able to give me some insight about why the keystone service catalog doesn't include an identity entry? I'm trying to make Horizon work with the public endpoint, and it's barfing... trying to figure out if this is something to patch in Horizon, or a config change that should be made upstream...21:57
joesavakPaulM - it is optional for the identity service to return it's endpoint in the service catalog21:58
PaulMjoesavak: hrm. Is this a very recent development?21:59
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PaulMjoesavak: the keystoneclient I'm using from pypi defaults to explicitly asking for service type identity... https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/0.4.1/keystoneclient/service_catalog.py#L16821:59
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PaulM(horizon calls that method during login with the default service_type)22:00
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joesavakPaulM - hmm - RAX hasn't returned the identity endpoint in the catalog at all (I'm RAX identity prod mgr)22:01
PaulMso... this might be a keystoneclient bug that doesn't special case that?22:02
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joesavakYeah - i think so. We do send the endpoint back in the Host header22:02
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PaulMit seems really weird that nobody else has run into that behavior with the default22:03
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joesavakagreed - first i've heard of it too22:04
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PaulMlooking at master on keystoneclient, I don't see any special casing in the service_catalog handling for identity services.22:07
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PaulMMaybe most consumers just never ask for identity since they already know the answer?22:07
joesavakThat's why we don't include it... you just got the catalog from identity - and we have global endpoints - no need to re-direct you to a separate URL for identity from the one that you are using22:08
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PaulMlemme see if it makes sense to change the way horizon does htis22:10
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PaulMlooks like keystoneclient probably needs to be patched here. :/22:24
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bknudsonhow is keystoneclient supposed to guess what the endpoint is?22:28
PaulMit just got the service catalog from the endpoint22:28
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PaulMthere could certainly be cases where a user might want different behavior than that though...22:29
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bknudsonPaulM: which endpoint? the public one or the internal one?22:30
PaulMbknudson: presumably, it's not weird to have keystone client assume that the identity endpoint is the same one that the client just got the service catalog from, if there's not an 'identity' entry in that catalog22:31
PaulMafaik, the keystoneclient binary behaves this way, but the api doesn't22:31
PaulMor that's what someone else told me, I haven't looked at that code22:31
bknudsonPaulM: I guess that kind of makes sense, but the identity endpoint you get the initial token from should be the "public" endpoint.22:32
bknudsonso it should only support a limited number of operations22:32
bknudsonessentially getting a token22:32
PaulMhmm, right. Back to my earlier idea then... Want to convince RAX to fix their service catalog? :)22:32
PaulMit does seem much cleaner to just require that the catalog include the identity endpoint22:33
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PaulMI'll probably monkey patch my local keystoneclient for the moment, and see if my support ticket results in a fix somewhere along the line22:34
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PaulMheh. Fix that, and discover that the RAX nova api doesn't include a region entry. The tooling expects one23:09
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PaulMlooks like RAX is still too divergent to make Horizon useful. No glance = no image launching23:31
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