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| jaypipes | morganfainberg: thx for the review! :) | 19:49 |
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| morganfainberg | jaypipes, of course! | 19:49 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, told ya i'd star it and get to it :) | 19:49 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: :) thx, it's very much appreciated! I should be able to get to those requests today. | 19:50 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, and on the topic of making deletes idempotent, any thoughts? i'm mulling over the work it would take to handle that across the board | 19:50 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, i think it would be a good approach personally. calling .delete_<thing> just works, no NotFound raised internally. but from the HTTP interface, it is relevant to say 404 if DELETE /project/<id> isn't found | 19:51 |
| morganfainberg | feel free to tell me that i'm wrong on that front ;) | 19:51 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: I don't see much issue in leaving it the way it is... it's easy enough to do a try: except NotFound: pass block if that is the desired behaviour of a caller of the internal API. | 19:52 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: you aren't wrong at all... it's just a preference I believe. | 19:52 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, actually, thinking about it a bit more, i see an issue with it. a lot of the delete_* calls require a get_ anyway. | 19:53 |
| morganfainberg | to handle business logic | 19:53 |
| jaypipes | indeed. | 19:53 |
| morganfainberg | soooo, it would add more overhead to just raise 404 at the controller and try/except at the manager | 19:54 |
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| morganfainberg | ok, well that means i can focus on the other icky change i have coming down the line then. removing "domain" from users. so domain is only an assignment construct | 19:55 |
| morganfainberg | that way we can support multiple user idenity backends (ldap1, ldap2, sql1, ldap3, sql2, federated via SAML, etc) more easily... | 19:56 |
| morganfainberg | all at once. | 19:56 |
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| jaypipes | morganfainberg: ++ | 20:03 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: hmm :( I disagree with a lot of the use of transactions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56430/9/keystone/assignment/backends/sql.py ... | 20:06 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, semanitacally they are the same in SQLAlchemy, it';s just explicit demarcation | 20:06 |
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| morganfainberg | for single-call stuff | 20:07 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: ? not sure what you're referring to... | 20:07 |
| morganfainberg | basically the assignment stuff was (and in some cases still is) suffering from race conditions | 20:07 |
| morganfainberg | so that patch solves it | 20:07 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: no it doesn't. | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, it does in some cases, not all | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | the issue was race within a single transactional call. not a pure race | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | e.g. delete needing to cleanup a seconary grant row | 20:08 |
| morganfainberg | not to solve 2 separate keystone process trying to delete the same user. | 20:09 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: there's no point in putting SELECT requests into a new transaction unless the SELECT is using FOR UPDATE... I think there's a misunderstanding of what the SQLAlchemy session.begin() is actually doing... | 20:09 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: I completely agree that doing things like create_grant() should put all modifying statements into a single transaction, but the way it's done in that patch for SELECT statements is wrong. | 20:11 |
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| morganfainberg | jaypipes, i think i'm seeing that now. | 20:12 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: for example, there's no point in putting list_grants() code under a transaction. | 20:12 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, i am not sure if there is an isolation benefit on any of the backend RDBMS | 20:13 |
| morganfainberg | i'll need to go look at sqlalchemy | 20:13 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: because it isn't modifying data. if the list_grants() is called by another routine that *does* modify data, then that calling routine should have already begun a transaction, and if the calling routine must rely on the results of the list_grants() call not changing until some savepoint or commit, then the caller should ask that the SELECT done in list_grants() be done with_lockmode('update') | 20:13 |
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| morganfainberg | jaypipes, sure then the approach would be to switch to the lockmode. | 20:14 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, again, i need to spend some time and look at sqlalchemy it looks like. | 20:14 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, there _might_ be some specific isolation benefit in how it gets passed to the db server. | 20:15 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: right, and an appropriate kwarg passed to list_grants(), so that it can control whether it issues a SELECT or a SELECT FOR UPDATE. | 20:15 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: there is not. :) | 20:15 |
| morganfainberg | have to be _very_ careful with kwargs. | 20:15 |
| morganfainberg | it makes caching a royal pain (memoization) | 20:16 |
| morganfainberg | so more _list_thing type methods | 20:16 |
| morganfainberg | that are backend specific | 20:16 |
| jaypipes | sure | 20:16 |
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| morganfainberg | jaypipes, in either case mind tossing the bug/bp reference in your comment before the next patchset | 20:20 |
| morganfainberg | (likely a bug since not everything in a quick scan defines the extra column) | 20:20 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: agreed... but if you try adding a new model without an extra column, boom... blows up :) | 20:23 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, oh i am not saying don't do what you're doing! :) just that the comment should point to the bug id ;) | 20:23 |
| morganfainberg | and .. at least somehow it works | 20:24 |
| morganfainberg | in some cases | 20:24 |
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| morganfainberg | I haven't looked too closely | 20:24 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: yup, I will do that | 20:24 |
| morganfainberg | cool | 20:24 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, and if i'm understanding it correctly, you'll add the "select for update" where appropriate for say... "_get_region"? | 20:26 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, also ignore the comment on line 154, it's outside of scope of the changes *whoopse* | 20:26 |
| jaypipes | morganfainberg: well, with regions, nothing is currently FK'd to them... I will add the select for update behaviour in the future when I clean up the current references to "region" in things like endpoint that do not yet refer to the new "real" regions. | 20:27 |
| morganfainberg | ok thats fine | 20:27 |
| morganfainberg | be careful about FK between subsystems fwiw. | 20:28 |
| morganfainberg | but i think you're 100% in catalog | 20:29 |
| morganfainberg | so... | 20:29 |
| morganfainberg | non-issue? | 20:29 |
| jaypipes | correct. | 20:29 |
| morganfainberg | cool | 20:29 |
| morganfainberg | sorry, it's holiday time and no coffee yet today | 20:29 |
| jaypipes | no worries at all! | 20:29 |
| * morganfainberg resists urge to go buy some more entertaining things today. | 20:30 | |
| morganfainberg | stick to coffee and food until next year :P | 20:30 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 20:36 |
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