jamielennox | dtroyer: i have an extension to all of this that i want to do for discovering services | 00:00 |
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jamielennox | i want to extend discovery in keystoneclient to work for all services (i think it can be done) | 00:00 |
dtroyer | jamielennox: let me play with it…oh yeah, I've got something for api discovery working but not pushed up anywhere too | 00:00 |
jamielennox | then instead of each service doing it's own discovery we can nest that within the session | 00:00 |
dtroyer | it can be done with some special-case handling for keystone ;) | 00:00 |
gyee | henrynash, looking at your impl and figure out if we can use 'next' instead of truncated | 00:01 |
jamielennox | that way you can do a session.url_for(endpoint_type='compute', version='v3') | 00:01 |
jamielennox | it will check the service catalog and return if there is a valid endpoint for it | 00:01 |
jamielennox | that way when we put unversioned endpoints into the service catalog we only need to do discovery for all the projects in one place | 00:01 |
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dtroyer | I've got a way to deal with that (hopefully). it can do 'loose' version checking and try to deal with versioned endpoints after we switch to assuming they are not versioned... | 00:02 |
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henrynash | gyee: so of course we 'could' do that…in fact I had an implementation that did that: see:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44836/20/keystone/common/controller.py | 00:02 |
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dtroyer | jamielennox: ok, gotta run…hopefully I'll get something functional tonight for OSC based on your auth patches... | 00:03 |
henrynash | gyee: but that is felt to be an abuse of the 'next' pointer so rehected | 00:03 |
jamielennox | dtroyer: excellent i'd love to see that, we have had a number of discussions recently about how we hack around the current state of versioned endpoints with no real conclusion | 00:03 |
jamielennox | dtroyer: ok, i'm not around for the rest of this week | 00:03 |
jamielennox | but i should see reviews otherwise just email me anything i need to see in particular | 00:03 |
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dtroyer | ok…so is 60752 the only additional patch I should include after the current auth set? | 00:04 |
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jamielennox | yea, i have ideas for the follow on (asking session for URLs) but i don't have functional patches for it yet | 00:04 |
gyee | henrynash, I am fine with a 206 and no 'truncated' attribute | 00:04 |
gyee | dolphm, ^ | 00:05 |
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henrynash | gyee: 206 should only be generated if the client asks for size restriction…that isn't the case here | 00:05 |
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dstanek | gyee: a 206 response must have gotten a Range header - i don't think that's what we want here | 00:22 |
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gyee | dstanek, yes, understood | 00:36 |
gyee | still thinking over this, 'truncated' attribute doesn't sound right | 00:37 |
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gyee | still need to give user some idea how much more data from the query | 00:37 |
gyee | 100 or 1 million? | 00:39 |
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gyee | otherwise, he'll just keep guessing with different queries | 00:39 |
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jamielennox | bknudson: ping re: kds DB | 00:47 |
jamielennox | actually does anyone remember the reason we store things as base64 in keystone's database rather than using sqlalchemy and blob? | 00:47 |
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gyee | jamielennox, what things? searchable things? | 00:59 |
jamielennox | gyee: no it's not in keystone as i thought it was | 00:59 |
jamielennox | gyee: for some reason i made my key type in kds do a base64 convert then store it as text | 01:00 |
jamielennox | there is a reason for it but i can't remember what it is | 01:00 |
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jamielennox | rather than simply store it in a binary format | 01:00 |
gyee | if you it to be searchable | 01:00 |
gyee | that's the only reason I can think of | 01:00 |
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jamielennox | hmm, yea - i can't remember | 01:02 |
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jamielennox | there doesn't seem to be much of a good standard around blob types | 01:02 |
jamielennox | sqlalchemy has LargeBinary | 01:02 |
gyee | isn't blog stands for (b)inary (l)arge (ob)ject? | 01:03 |
gyee | sorry blob | 01:03 |
jamielennox | no idea | 01:04 |
jamielennox | i just want a raw data type | 01:04 |
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dstanek | gyee: i think their goal was to not pull all of the data from the database so they wouldn't know if there were 100 or 1 million more records | 01:19 |
dstanek | gyee: s/database/backend/ | 01:19 |
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gyee | dstanek, but at least give user some idea how much data | 01:20 |
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gyee | otherwise, how does user have enough information to refine th query? just keep trying? | 01:20 |
dstanek | gyee: would you have a different refinement strategy based on how many records you don't see or would you just try to refine the query? | 01:21 |
gyee | dstanek, probably, more information would help make a better decision I would think | 01:22 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, "I'm coming late to this, but is there a reason we cant use fabio's extension notifications and make this extension reactive?" The short of it is that the dependency between things would then be backwards | 01:32 |
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ayoung | ie...instead of all these things having to know about revocations, revocations would need to be aware of everything that could call it | 01:33 |
jamielennox | ayoung: that seems like the better model for an extension | 01:33 |
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jamielennox | it also sounds easier | 01:33 |
jamielennox | cause you don't need a revocation api with .revoke_for_project .revoke_for_x | 01:33 |
ayoung | no, much more complex | 01:33 |
jamielennox | you just have a series of event listeners that construct the right objects | 01:34 |
ayoung | those are just helpers | 01:34 |
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ayoung | You still end up with an implicit dependency one way or the other. | 01:35 |
jamielennox | right, but what's wrong with listening for user deleted and then when an event comes in you add to your revocation list | 01:35 |
jamielennox | right but the dep goes is no longer based on an optional extension | 01:35 |
jamielennox | s/goes// | 01:36 |
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ayoung | Right now it feels like it would be a rewrite for little benefitr other than to make use of the new shiny...sorry if I sound a little rough on it. | 01:36 |
jamielennox | i mean you have an extension which depends on a whole lot of core services not the other way around | 01:36 |
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ayoung | Maybe if all those even listeners were out there already and pumping out events. | 01:36 |
jamielennox | so i'm not sure how far he has got with implementing all those event notifiers | 01:37 |
jamielennox | if they aren't there then there is no choice | 01:37 |
ayoung | Lets keep that in mind for Juno | 01:37 |
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jamielennox | but i think in general you should have all extensions be reactionary | 01:37 |
ayoung | there is a lot we have been thinking about as far as splitting dependencies. Sounds like this is part of that same thought process. I think we need to figure out how to compose objects better, too. But not for I2 (or I3) and this code | 01:38 |
jamielennox | gyee: do you know how far the event notifications have come/ | 01:38 |
gyee | jamielennox, its approved | 01:38 |
jamielennox | gyee: but are the even emitters in place | 01:38 |
gyee | actually, its renamed to event callbacks | 01:38 |
jamielennox | for all the core types? | 01:39 |
gyee | jamielennox, yes, all existing events | 01:39 |
jamielennox | gyee: oh, which is a small subset of what is needed for revocation | 01:39 |
gyee | whatever events keystone is publishing today | 01:39 |
gyee | jamielennox, only thing missing are the assignments I think | 01:40 |
gyee | like role assignment and removal | 01:40 |
jamielennox | ayoung: still for the likes of: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55908/29/keystone/identity/core.py | 01:42 |
ayoung | that one is a hack | 01:42 |
ayoung | needs to be more specific | 01:42 |
jamielennox | it would appear all you would do was change it to register_event_callback('group.delete', ...) | 01:42 |
ayoung | but role enumeration was failing me, and this maintained the existing semantics | 01:42 |
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ayoung | Where would the listeners list? | 01:43 |
ayoung | live | 01:43 |
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jamielennox | no idea, what creates the extension object? | 01:44 |
jamielennox | i mean you would do it in __init__ of the extension, but i don't know where that would go | 01:44 |
ayoung | if it is in the pipeline, it gets registered | 01:44 |
ayoung | so these listeners would be part of the extension? | 01:44 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: the more i do that this the more i dislike extensions in the pipeline | 01:44 |
jamielennox | it doesn't actually use the pipeline it just does a dirty hack to have the pipeline include it in the core | 01:45 |
ayoung | jamielennox, if the only tool you have is duck tape, everything looks like a duck | 01:45 |
jamielennox | lol | 01:45 |
jamielennox | umm, so yea you would register your handlers when you __init__ the extension | 01:45 |
jamielennox | they would be called whenever a group was deleted | 01:45 |
jamielennox | or whatever | 01:45 |
jamielennox | for now it appears you would have to keep the assignments part as is | 01:46 |
ayoung | I'd keep the core part the same, but we could move the logic to listeners | 01:46 |
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jamielennox | well yea most of it as you say is helpers | 01:46 |
jamielennox | it just means you don't need to go into the manageres | 01:47 |
ayoung | yep...I kind of like that idea... | 01:47 |
ayoung | where is there a current example of listener? | 01:47 |
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jamielennox | i don't know - i was still sketch on if it had been approved | 01:48 |
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ayoung | got it | 01:49 |
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ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/commit/fc685e981d595345d8432779a87f83fc1d77cf97 | 01:49 |
jamielennox | but i had proposed something similar ages ago and had talked to fabio when it was coming in so from high level it seems a better design | 01:49 |
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ayoung | let me do a proof of concept | 01:51 |
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gyee | ayoung, can you give it another whirl when you have time? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56333/ | 01:57 |
ayoung | -2 Not on my watch. | 01:58 |
ayoung | Ooops, sorry | 01:58 |
gyee | wtf | 01:58 |
ayoung | gyee, heh | 01:58 |
ayoung | so you put flatten into author... | 01:58 |
gyee | yes sir | 01:58 |
ayoung | cool | 01:58 |
ayoung | understand why I insisted? We need the whole kit and the kaboomie | 01:59 |
gyee | kaboomie | 01:59 |
ayoung | heh | 02:00 |
ayoung | gyee, so, is there any reason to not put the decorators in authorization.py as well? | 02:00 |
ayoung | other than churn, of course? | 02:00 |
gyee | ayoung, thought you want the api stuff in common for now | 02:01 |
ayoung | gyee, I want the rest of openstack to use our logic here | 02:01 |
gyee | I mean anything that require *_api calls | 02:01 |
ayoung | yeah...good point | 02:01 |
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ayoung | once we get rid of the uuid token approach we can go further | 02:02 |
gyee | hell, with SSL certificate middleware, who needs tokens :) | 02:03 |
ayoung | we all do | 02:03 |
ayoung | SSL is authentication | 02:03 |
ayoung | doesn;t have the auth attributes | 02:03 |
ayoung | got to think outside the keystone box | 02:04 |
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ayoung | keystone server box that is | 02:04 |
gyee | ayoung, DN is essentially "assertions" | 02:05 |
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ayoung | yep | 02:05 |
gyee | they are signed key-value pairs if you really think about it | 02:05 |
ayoung | but Certs are long lived | 02:05 |
ayoung | we need both | 02:05 |
gyee | ayoung, certs can be short live | 02:05 |
ayoung | long lived authentication and short lived authorization | 02:05 |
ayoung | cers are like LDAP...read only to you | 02:06 |
ayoung | tokens are short lived | 02:06 |
gyee | but yeah, doing authz in certs is not very practical | 02:06 |
ayoung | need the two paired...we are getting there. jamielennox got token binding into the client. | 02:06 |
gyee | could be expensive | 02:06 |
jamielennox | gyee: i haven't looked at that patch much - is it going to be able to work with auth_token? | 02:07 |
gyee | jamielennox, yes, they are independent | 02:07 |
jamielennox | ok | 02:07 |
gyee | jamielennox, btw, love the auth plugin for keystoneclient | 02:07 |
jamielennox | i have a longer term goal to make keystone use auth_token | 02:07 |
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gyee | pretty cool hack there | 02:07 |
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jamielennox | gyee: cool - make reviews | 02:08 |
jamielennox | i think i need a few people to start commiting to it | 02:08 |
jamielennox | it's a big change and noone wants to go first | 02:08 |
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gyee | I'll get to the auth plugin review, probably tonight | 02:08 |
jamielennox | i'm a little concerned about the split of do_authenticate and authenticate in the httpclient - but you've gotta be doing some dumb stuff to mess it up so i'm not going to change it right now i think | 02:08 |
gyee | if not, first thing tomorrow | 02:08 |
gyee | was breaking my head over henrynash's limiting review, still have a bad feeling about it | 02:10 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, gyee's refactoring is moving toward migrating that code into the client to be used in conjunction with auth_token middleware | 02:11 |
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jamielennox | hmm, i've known i need to pay more attention to that one - i have some ideas around storing auth in keystone - i just keep forgetting | 02:12 |
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jamielennox | i clean through all the client reviews and then i miss heaps of stuff on server | 02:13 |
gyee | jamielennox, ayoung, I have to run. Kids crying, wife screaming, its a war zone right now. Will do more reviews later. | 02:13 |
jamielennox | gyee: yep, cya later | 02:13 |
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ayoung | SNAFU. Situation normal all.... | 02:13 |
ayoung | gyee that was me about 3 hours ago. | 02:14 |
ayoung | So, right on time | 02:14 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, ok...I think I can do the notifications for this | 02:15 |
jamielennox | ayoung: cool | 02:15 |
jamielennox | it's a good thing to really test out too | 02:16 |
jamielennox | also see if it'd be possible for the assignment variables as well but i assume they left that for a reason | 02:16 |
ayoung | If I were to do this right, I would split my patch into 2, one for the disable of old style revocations, a second to do the integration. and do a third patch to add additional notification. | 02:16 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: reviews are happening a bit faster recently - i'm of the opinion now that if you can split it do it | 02:17 |
ayoung | thing is...some of the existing logic might be a little wonky that way...things that call deep into the relationships. | 02:17 |
jamielennox | (though client still slower) | 02:17 |
jamielennox | off topic: sweet http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_8/dialects/mysql.html#storage-engines | 02:17 |
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jamielennox | F20 really messed up postgres | 02:20 |
ayoung | Heh. Most Fedora upgrades have had induced issues with PG. What is it this time? | 02:20 |
jamielennox | had to run an upgrade script | 02:22 |
jamielennox | but it reset the pg_hba.conf | 02:22 |
jamielennox | i changed it back but i still can't get back in | 02:22 |
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ayoung | lsof? | 02:23 |
ayoung | see what it is listening to? | 02:23 |
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jamielennox | no, i think i messed up something in the pg_hba | 02:24 |
jamielennox | had a peer identify over a port | 02:24 |
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jamielennox | happened on my other computer as well but somehow screwed up the locale and i had to wipe it and start again | 02:25 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, so...with the events, it is going to be interesting. Really, I shouldn't be concerned about "deleted" events so much as "disabled" events. | 02:49 |
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ayoung | dolphm, so, is I2 sealed? | 02:55 |
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jamielennox | hmm, yea - i don't know what sort of license you have to emit notifications internally that don't get sent to the amp | 02:56 |
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david-lyle_ | due to a licensing issue, I need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68268/ promoted for i-2, what is the process for that? | 03:11 |
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clarkb | david-lyle_: you approve the change then when it queues up we run a command aginst zuul to promote it. that said I fail to see how an MIT licensed project used in testing would cause problems but I am not a lawyer | 03:24 |
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david-lyle_ | clarkb: I approved it a few hours ago, but I have not seen it in the queue yet. It's a modified MIT license with a little clause about "not for evil", that is deemed non-asl compliant | 03:29 |
clarkb | david-lyle_: :? | 03:30 |
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clarkb | er :/ that is annoying | 03:30 |
clarkb | zuul is behind on processing the event queue | 03:30 |
clarkb | when it shows up we can promote | 03:30 |
david-lyle_ | little things are deal breakers | 03:30 |
david-lyle_ | clarkb: great, thanks! | 03:30 |
david-lyle_ | very annoying, but my reality | 03:31 |
clarkb | any chance upstream would let us do eveil with it? | 03:32 |
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david-lyle_ | we tried that angle, but jshinst is based on jslint which isn't changing | 03:33 |
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lyxus | Hello Folks - Is there any way to do a automatic devstack installation ? I would like to avoid doing write an expect script... | 06:53 |
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lifeless | lyxus: have a look at devstack-gate, it runs devstack hundreds of times a day | 07:00 |
lifeless | lyxus: can I ask why though? | 07:00 |
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lyxus | lifeless: I am writing a plugin, so far I am the only one, but not for long. I want to be able to download the latest openstack/devstack have a tempest run against it... Reconfigure it with my plugin and re-run tempest | 07:02 |
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lyxus | lifeless: make sense ? | 07:09 |
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lifeless | sure, though most folk would put their thing on stackforge and have commits gated against it | 07:09 |
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lifeless | the infra team has a lot of automated runs of tempest and devstack against different configurations, so it matches what youneed | 07:11 |
lyxus | lifeless: hum.. Let me see what would be the most efficient ! | 07:11 |
lyxus | lifeless: (thanks BTW) | 07:12 |
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ik_ | I am thinking of restarting cinder volume at the end of a REST call.. I have used os.system() call, but service getting stopped and not getting started. I wonder how can I make this thing work.. | 07:34 |
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clarkb | fork and exec? | 07:39 |
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ik_ | can try fork and exec or subprocess. but same os.system() call works fine when written a separate program! I wonder what am I missing in api | 07:42 |
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clarkb | doesnt system() wait and use asubshell? pretty sure it is the wrong way to do it | 07:47 |
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lyxus | it sounds little stupid but i am fighting with the logging.conf. But how do you print the stdout to the logfile. I have the debug writing correctly | 07:53 |
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lyxus | is it only a preference of using run_tempest rather than nosetests -v tempest ? | 08:38 |
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matrohon | Hi | 10:22 |
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matrohon | does anyone has trouble with the current version of devstack | 10:23 |
matrohon | ? | 10:23 |
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matrohon | when I run it, cinder and glance crash, because their db are empty | 10:23 |
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maurosr | hey everybody, can anyone take a look on this oslo-incubatorhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/66360/ | 12:14 |
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tellesnobrega | henrynash: hey, could you help understand some parts of the policy.v3cloudsample.sample, my question is what is the difference between using domain_id:%(domain_id)s and domain_id:%(target.project.domain_id)s and all variations to get domain_id like domain_id:%(target.group.domain_id)s and etc | 12:18 |
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henrynash | tellesnobrega: so it depends on the type of call. | 12:20 |
henrynash | tellesnobrega: …and where the item you need to check policy on is | 12:20 |
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henrynash | tellesnobrega: for a create, for instance, the domain_id of the object you are creating is in the parameters of the call | 12:21 |
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henrynash | tellesnobrega: so user.domain_id gets you that | 12:21 |
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henrynash | tellesnobrega: for a delete, however, the domain_id isn't in the call….it's in the user object that is the 'target' of the delete call | 12:22 |
henrynash | tellesnobrega: so you can reference that by target.user.domain_id | 12:22 |
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henrynash | tellesnobrega: and finally for list, often the domain_id is in the filter of the list call (I.e. you MUST be filtering on a domain)id that you have access to) | 12:23 |
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henrynash | tellesnobrega: and just domain_id will find that (or indeed if it were a direct parameter of the call) | 12:23 |
henrynash | does that make sense (a bit complicated, I know) | 12:24 |
henrynash | ? | 12:24 |
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tellesnobrega | henrynash: i think it makes perfect sense | 12:29 |
henrynash | tellesnobrega: :-) | 12:30 |
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tellesnobrega | henrynash: thanks | 12:34 |
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eglynn | ttx: is the plan still to cut milestone-proposed for i-2 at 0700MST today? | 12:50 |
eglynn | (... i.e. without draining the gate of approved but as-yet unverified patches target'd at i-2?) | 12:51 |
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eglynn | ... /me realizes that draining the gate of anything right now would required a massive dose of Mr Muscle drain-unblocker | 12:52 |
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tellesnobrega | henrynash: just one more question, the rule owner has the user_id:%(user_id)s or user_id:%(target.token.user_id)s, why is the token used? | 13:11 |
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henrynash | tellesnobrega: not sure I wrote that bit, but suspect it is for the case when you have an api to delete a token - so that you can delete your own tokens | 13:13 |
henrynash | tellesnobrega: delete token would just take token_id as a paramater | 13:14 |
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tellesnobrega | henrynash: thanks | 13:15 |
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s2r2_ | am I right to assume that using RBD for volumes means that /etc/ceph has to be populated properly on each compute node? | 13:36 |
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s2r2_ | I did set up a cinder user and stuff, but nova/virt/libvirt/utils.py does "rbd -p $pool ls" | 13:37 |
sdague | ttx: so I wasn't following much last week on the rootwrap / restricted python thing | 13:37 |
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s2r2_ | so there's probably a bug/blueprint about using librbd for that, but I cannot find it | 13:37 |
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sdague | but it seemed like it was a good idea. I'm assuming you are swamped for the rest of cycle, but if I had someone that could dive in on that, you be up for those contributions? | 13:38 |
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s2r2_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/better-libvirt-network-volume-support ah this is it | 13:41 |
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bknudson | dolphm: http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-identity.html#identity-v2 -- says token lasts 24 hours | 13:58 |
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dolphm | bknudson: thanks - will submit a patch | 14:07 |
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bauzas | folks, had anyone succeeded in deploying Devstack with Keystone V3 using the IDENTITY_API_VERSION set to 3 ? | 14:09 |
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bauzas | seems like the Service Catalog is incompatible | 14:10 |
bauzas | help welcome :) | 14:10 |
dolphm | bauzas: both are away, but ping stevemar and jamielennox when they're on | 14:10 |
bauzas | thanks dolphm :) | 14:10 |
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dolphm | bauzas: the short of it is that, yes- the service catalog is incompatible and we need to drop the versioned endpoint there. you can hack around it (and break v2 consumers) by switching to /v3/ in the catalog) | 14:10 |
bauzas | we're trying to implement trust support in Climate (reservation service) | 14:10 |
bauzas | as we need to boot VMs on behalf of the user | 14:11 |
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bauzas | dolphm: okay, will try to workaround it | 14:11 |
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tellesnobrega | henrynash: what about this domain_id:%(scope.domain.id)s? what it does? | 14:25 |
henrynash | tellesnobrega: actually I have no idea! | 14:25 |
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tellesnobrega | henrynash: haha, thanks | 14:26 |
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henrynash | teelsnobrega: actually… I do….scope is one of the parameters in get_role_assignments | 14:26 |
henrynash | tellsnobrega: scope I think is part of the inheritance extension for that API | 14:26 |
tellesnobrega | henrynash: thanks | 14:27 |
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stevemar | ayoung, dolphm take a quick look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66718/2 it's needed for trust notifications | 14:28 |
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dolphm | bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68394/ | 14:32 |
bauzas | stevemar: I just discussed with dolphm about devstack and Keystone V3 for service catalog | 14:32 |
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dolphm | stevemar: approved | 14:33 |
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bauzas | stevemar: I deployed a devstack using IDENTITY_API_VERSION set to 3 and my endpoints are correct | 14:33 |
stevemar | thx dolphm | 14:33 |
dolphm | lbragstad: ^ | 14:33 |
stevemar | bauzas, yay | 14:33 |
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bauzas | stevemar: but I'm still getting a 404 when using keystone tenant-list or whatever :( | 14:33 |
stevemar | bauzas, use openstackclient project list :) | 14:33 |
dolphm | bauzas: thats using v2, so expected | 14:33 |
bauzas | stevemar: sorry about bugging you, but do you have any idea ? | 14:34 |
bauzas | oh, keystoneclient can't work using v3 ? | 14:34 |
stevemar | err `openstack project list` | 14:34 |
stevemar | bauzas, it'll have some problems | 14:34 |
bauzas | oh ok | 14:34 |
dolphm | bauzas: the lib can certainly, the CLI can't | 14:34 |
stevemar | dolphm ++ | 14:35 |
bauzas | stevemar: because Neutron is using keystoneclient for getting its creds while installing | 14:35 |
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bauzas | stevemar: (speaking about devstack install of neutron) | 14:35 |
bauzas | stevemar: I think I located the place where it goes to v2, I can try fixing it | 14:36 |
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bauzas | stevemar: any patches already being reviewed about this I could cherry-pick ? | 14:37 |
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stevemar | bauzas, unfortunately no, i've just been playing around in my dev env | 14:38 |
bauzas | stevemar: I can see why, the shell client class for V3 is not yet there | 14:38 |
bauzas | stevemar: here's why I'm asking for it ;) | 14:39 |
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ttx | eglynn-lunch: 0800 mst | 14:40 |
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eglynn-lunch | ttx: fair nuffski | 14:40 |
ttx | sdague: Haven't investigated that concept yet | 14:40 |
sdague | ttx: so the theory would be that we could get rid of the python overhead of 20ms per call out | 14:41 |
sdague | which adds up for the network services that use it a lot | 14:41 |
lbragstad | dolphm: stevemar thanks! | 14:41 |
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dolphm | lbragstad: the notifications patch looks to be gating with it | 14:42 |
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dolphm | the gate is way more responsive today :D | 14:42 |
lbragstad | ++ | 14:42 |
sdague | ttx: mostly the question I wanted to know is if anyone was working it yet, as a couple of folks will be looking for places to dive in | 14:42 |
dolphm | queue is empty | 14:42 |
sdague | and I don't want to duplicate work | 14:42 |
ttx | dolphm: I'll wait for those keystone patches at the top of the gate to pass or fail before I cut i2 for keystone | 14:43 |
ttx | sdague: haven't looked into it at all | 14:43 |
dolphm | ttx: sounds good - those were the blockers for shardy & heat | 14:43 |
sdague | ttx: well are you receptive to the concept? | 14:43 |
ttx | sdague: certainly ! if there are ways to keep it python and make it less of a roadblock, I'm ready to go through exta hoops "compiling" it | 14:44 |
ttx | I'm just unfamiliar with what that would actually take | 14:45 |
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sdague | ttx: right, that's fine hence why it would seem to make sense for a new person jumping in | 14:45 |
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balazs | hi | 14:46 |
balazs | i was hunting for low hanging fruits when i find this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1238201 | 14:46 |
ttx | sdague: indeed. you can redirect the mto me if they need insight on why we are where we are | 14:46 |
balazs | it seems to me that it's already fixed in master, yet it have status confirmed | 14:47 |
sdague | great | 14:47 |
balazs | who should change the status in such case? the guy assigned? or somebody else? | 14:47 |
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ttx | sdague: want to follow milestone cut process, or you're busy getting patches landed ? | 14:48 |
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sdague | ttx: I can spend some time following, which chan? | 14:49 |
dolphm | stevemar: plz https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65713/ | 14:49 |
ttx | sdague: let's do #openstack-relmgr-office | 14:49 |
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sdague | kk | 14:50 |
stevemar | dolphm, reviewing | 14:50 |
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stevemar | bauzas, sorry was otp, so neutron fails with devstack install if you switch to identity v3? | 14:50 |
dolphm | stevemar: also, will you revise the title on this one with the actual issue that was fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1264803 | 14:51 |
bauzas | stevemar: yup | 14:52 |
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bauzas | stevemar: the devstack script for neutron is assuming it can perform some keystone client checks | 14:52 |
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bauzas | but anyhow, I found the solution | 14:52 |
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bauzas | stevemar: I'll stick to v2 for my devstack install, and then assume there is V3 for direct calls | 14:53 |
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stevemar | dolphm, done | 14:53 |
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stevemar | dolphm, sure | 14:53 |
nplanel | ala_ safchain : hi | 14:54 |
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stevemar | dolphm, updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1264803 | 14:55 |
ala_ | nplanel: hi | 14:55 |
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stevemar | bauzas, are you looking at devstack/files/neutron? | 14:55 |
dolphm | stevemar: danke | 14:56 |
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stevemar | bauzas, referring to: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/neutron#L355 | 15:00 |
bauzas | stevemar: sorry, was afk | 15:01 |
bauzas | stevemar: lemme check | 15:01 |
henrynash | dolphm, bknudson, gyee: any chance we can get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67256/ in….have modified the wording to clarify the concern gyee had | 15:01 |
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bauzas | stevemar: correct, this is this line | 15:01 |
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bauzas | stevemar: that one could be patched of course | 15:02 |
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stevemar | bauzas, np, yeah, it could be patched... but it seems theres a lot of spots that need to be patched :( | 15:03 |
dolphm | henrynash: typo on L187 s/boolen/boolean/ | 15:03 |
henrynash | dolphm: damn, give me 30s | 15:04 |
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dolphm | henrynash: also put `true` and `false` in L192 & L193 in backticks since that's raw JSON | 15:04 |
henrynash | dolphm: ok | 15:04 |
bauzas | stevemar: I found a solution for my needs, I'm deploying Keystone with v2 in the catalog, but assert v3 is there (thanks to shardy) | 15:04 |
dolphm | henrynash: otherwise +2 | 15:05 |
stevemar | bauzas, this is in your dev env? | 15:05 |
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bauzas | stevemar: but IMHO, the IDENTITY_API_VERSION flag should be removed until the keystoneclient got updated with v3 support for shell | 15:05 |
dolphm | henrynash: `null` in L194 should be in backticks too :) | 15:05 |
henrynash | dolphm: :-) | 15:05 |
bauzas | stevemar: yay | 15:05 |
stevemar | bauzas, keystoneclient won't have v3 support for shell :) | 15:05 |
bauzas | stevemar: uh | 15:06 |
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stevemar | we're offloading that to openstackclient | 15:06 |
bauzas | stevemar: oh ok | 15:06 |
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stevemar | keystoneclient will still have v3 libs | 15:06 |
dolphm | `$ openstack project-list` instead of `$ keystone tenant-list` etc | 15:06 |
bauzas | stevemar: I already played with v3 libs, I know that works with the 0.4.2 release | 15:06 |
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henrynash | dolphm: posted | 15:06 |
stevemar | dolphm, close, no dash though | 15:07 |
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henrynash | dolphm: the patch that implements is running in Jenkins now….includes the xml serializer changes to support it | 15:07 |
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dolphm | henrynash: oh cool | 15:08 |
dolphm | henrynash: +2'd the API change | 15:08 |
henrynash | dolphm: thx | 15:08 |
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dolphm | henrynash: there's also a change in review to mark the v3.2 API as stable as of tomorrow | 15:08 |
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henrynash | ok…good to get this in ahead of that!!! | 15:08 |
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henrynash | bknudson: you on? | 15:09 |
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bknudson | henrynash: yes | 15:09 |
henrynash | bknduson: any chance you could approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67256/ | 15:10 |
henrynash | bknudson: only change since before is some extra wording to clarify the meaning of the attribute | 15:10 |
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bknudson | henrynash: it's approved. | 15:12 |
henrynash | bknduson: thanks | 15:12 |
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bknudson | all changes should merge that fast. | 15:14 |
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mriedem | dhellmann: do you know if there will be a version bump/release for oslo.config due to this change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58960/ | 15:18 |
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dolphm | bknudson: we need quantum gating | 15:19 |
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dolphm | henrynash: i assume the latest patchset on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44836/ is in support of "truncated": true? | 15:20 |
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henrynash | dolphm: yes | 15:21 |
sdague | any glance core devs able to look at glance failing unit tests in the gate? | 15:21 |
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henrynash | bknudson: if you get a chance to review again the latest updates to the implementation for truncation, that would be great: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44836/ | 15:23 |
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amit_ibm | Hi All | 15:24 |
amit_ibm | I need one help with libvirt driver | 15:25 |
amit_ibm | which i am using to deploy an ISO from nova boot | 15:25 |
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amit_ibm | i deployed and the deployment went successful but when i try to install the OS rhel installer says no disk available | 15:26 |
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amit_ibm | with ice house build | 15:26 |
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amit_ibm | Any one who has deployed an ISO using libvirt driver? | 15:29 |
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sdague | flaper87: you are glance dev as well? (sorry I don't remember all affiliations) | 15:34 |
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flaper87 | sdague: yes sir | 15:35 |
ttx | SergeyLukjanov: savanna ready ? | 15:35 |
sdague | so glance seems to be failing py27 unit tests basicall 100% of the time in gate | 15:35 |
sdague | we've got 2 changes in there that triggered resets, mitigated by the fact they were deep enough that we never allocated devstack nodes to them | 15:36 |
sdague | any chance you could spearhead trying to get folks on that | 15:36 |
flaper87 | sdague: mmhh, let me look into that. Any particular review? | 15:36 |
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flaper87 | I've 1 that fails with some sqlite error and I can't replicate that. I also set up an ubuntu precise box and ran all glance tests | 15:37 |
flaper87 | they ran just fine | 15:37 |
flaper87 | :/ | 15:37 |
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sdague | flaper87: I don't know that I've got a review with the results back in it, but here are the logs for one of the ones in gate - http://logs.openstack.org/64/67364/4/gate/gate-glance-python27/351a940/ | 15:38 |
ttx | kgriffs: marconi ready for milestone-proposed cut ? | 15:38 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, ping | 15:38 |
ttx | SergeyLukjanov: o/ | 15:38 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yup, savanna ready | 15:38 |
kgriffs | ttx: we have one final patch that is about to merge - give me 5 mins | 15:38 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, morning | 15:38 |
flaper87 | ttx: it is | 15:38 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:38 |
ttx | kgriffs: ok, standing by | 15:38 |
ttx | SergeyLukjanov: should I defer https://blueprints.launchpad.net/savanna/+spec/epd-data-source-existing-hadoop-cluster ? | 15:39 |
flaper87 | sdague: looking at it | 15:40 |
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sdague | flaper87: thanks | 15:40 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I've already do it | 15:40 |
ttx | ok thx | 15:40 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, https://launchpad.net/savanna/+milestone/icehouse-2 only green now | 15:40 |
ttx | SergeyLukjanov: htat's how I like it | 15:40 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, me too ;) | 15:41 |
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kgriffs | ttx: as soon as this merges, Marconi is ready: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67320/ | 15:43 |
ttx | kgriffs: ok, could you ping me when that happens ? | 15:44 |
kgriffs | ttx: yep | 15:44 |
ttx | devananda: when up, please confirm that ironic is ready to go | 15:44 |
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flaper87 | ttx: kgriffs go go go go! :D | 15:59 |
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kgriffs | ttx: confirmed, Marconi is ready to go. | 16:07 |
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ttx | ok, going in soon | 16:11 |
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kgriffs | w00t | 16:13 |
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raildo | henrynash: ping | 16:19 |
kmartin | sdague: sorry to keep nagging but we're attempting to get to get a I-2 schedule cinder driver to land, could you please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65179/ | 16:20 |
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dolphm | ayoung: thanks for breaking up the revocation event patches | 16:20 |
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henrynash | raildo: hi | 16:21 |
sdague | kmartin: you aren't getting any more changes into i-2 | 16:21 |
raildo | henrynash: you have time available to answer some questions about a bp that you implemented? | 16:21 |
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raildo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/inherited-domain-roles | 16:21 |
ayoung | dolphm, I started integrating in the notifications stuff. More I discussed it with others, the more they convnced me I needed to use it. | 16:21 |
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sdague | unless the changes are in the top 20 things at the top of the gate right now | 16:21 |
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henrynash | railo: yers | 16:22 |
kmartin | sdague: ok thanks, maybe you can look at the start of I-3 | 16:22 |
sdague | yep | 16:22 |
sdague | once we get gate back under control, I'll go do reviews again | 16:22 |
ayoung | dolphm, That patch can potentially be even more granular: there are some notifications that need to be added: I included a new form of notification: disabled. | 16:22 |
henrynash | : raildo: yes | 16:22 |
sdague | I'm basically just not looking at anything that isn't improving gate right now | 16:22 |
ayoung | THe updated notification didn't have enough info in it to determine if it was disabled. | 16:23 |
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ayoung | that might be a shortcoming of the update notification, though. Trying to avoid doing an additional fetch from the backend just to keep the decoupling. | 16:24 |
kmartin | sdague: got it. I'll let jgriffith know that the driver BP should be moved to I-3 | 16:24 |
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raildo | henrynash: I was testing bp, there I realized that it is possible to inherit the role of a domain for a project. You can inherit roles between users? For example, an X user is admin, if it creates another user he should be admin too? | 16:25 |
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henrynash | raildo: no, this is just about inheriting role assignments from a domain to a project | 16:26 |
raildo | ok | 16:26 |
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raildo | henrynash: Another question is can limit inheritance to only one type of role? For example, I create and insert a different role in the domain. Can I limit the hierarchy only for this role or all roles in the domain will be inherited? | 16:28 |
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henrynash | raildo: yes, I think (from memory) that when we create the assignment, you specify whether it is inherited or not | 16:29 |
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raildo | henrynash: ok, thanks for the explanations. | 16:30 |
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dstanek | in launchpad "Fix Committed" means that the review has merged right? | 16:39 |
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david-lyle | dstanek: yes | 16:40 |
david-lyle | but not yet released | 16:40 |
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dstanek | david-lyle: thx. that's what i though, but wanted to make sure | 16:41 |
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lbragstad | dstanek: thanks for responding to the import question I had, makes sense now | 16:55 |
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ttx | devananda: let me know if I can cut the branch for ironic | 17:00 |
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ozialien | Is there any email notification subsystem available or on the drawing board within openstack? | 17:01 |
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devananda | ttx: hi! thought you already had :) | 17:10 |
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ttx | devananda: you still have a few things targeted | 17:10 |
ttx | devananda: will cut in a few | 17:11 |
ttx | could you defer whatever is still targeted but not merged there ? | 17:11 |
devananda | ttx: bugs whose fixes were in-flight. actually, several fixes merged last night \o/ | 17:11 |
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ttx | devananda: ok, will let you update the icehouse-2 page | 17:11 |
devananda | ttx: yep, those 3 bugs can be deferred. /me updates | 17:11 |
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henrynash | dolphm: agree on your approach for the truncation implementation | 17:13 |
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dolphm | henrynash: made the exact same comment on the revocation events patch | 17:14 |
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henrynash | dolphm: a | 17:14 |
henrynash | dolphm: sounds sensible | 17:15 |
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devananda | ttx: i2 should be all set now | 17:15 |
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ttx | ok, cutting | 17:15 |
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jaypipes | annegentle: hola amiga. | 17:19 |
annegentle | hey! | 17:19 |
jaypipes | annegentle: just reading your email about endpoints... want to do a quick hangout? | 17:19 |
annegentle | jaypipes: on one already ha ha, how about in a half hour? | 17:20 |
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jaypipes | annegentle: :( I have a conf call at 1pm EST. and then conf calls most rest of the afternoon... how about tomorrow morning? | 17:20 |
jaypipes | I have nothing scheduled for tomorrow. | 17:21 |
jaypipes | annegentle: if you want the short answer to your question... it is that I think the entire concept of multiple "interfaces" for an endpoint is a faulty concept. | 17:21 |
dstanek | henrynash: what is the value of storing everything in the Hints list vs. attributes for eash distinct data set? | 17:21 |
annegentle | jaypipes: oh! Now that's useful! | 17:22 |
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annegentle | jaypipes: tomorrow and Fri we're doing the book sprint itself so sure! | 17:22 |
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jaypipes | annegentle: unfortunately, the RAX-specific concept of an adminURL, internalURL, and publicURL for endpoints should never have been ported into the Keystone API. | 17:22 |
dolphm | jaypipes: ++ | 17:22 |
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dstanek | lbragstad: no problem at all | 17:23 |
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jaypipes | annegentle: if an endpoint is "internal", then it should simply show up in the service catalog as a normal endpoint, but only for those users/domains/tenants who have access to that category of endpoint... (in other words, it's an implementation-specific thing and needn't be in the API contract itself) | 17:23 |
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jaypipes | annegentle: that said... we cannot change history, so I believe that there is indeed ways that the documentation for the operator's guide can be improved to alert users to steer clear of setting admin/internalURL differently from publicURL unless they really know what they are doing and have good reason to do so. | 17:25 |
jaypipes | there *are* indeed ways.... sorry, grammar fail. | 17:25 |
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dolphm | bknudson: regarding bp no-check-id ... could a first step for keystone be to simply move the validation into the assignment controller? (which has access to validate identity) or do we need to drop the tempest test as a first step? | 17:58 |
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ayoung | dolphm, It was my thought that we should drop the tempest test. It is too stringent | 17:58 |
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bknudson | dolphm: should the controller be able to validate that the user exists? | 17:59 |
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ayoung | bknudson, no | 18:00 |
ayoung | bknudson, the user may not exist yet | 18:00 |
bknudson | ayoung: that was my thinking too | 18:00 |
ayoung | they might be coming in via SAML and have never been in the system | 18:00 |
dolphm | ayoung: bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68453/ | 18:00 |
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bknudson | ayoung: dolphm: so my plan is still to try to get the tempest test(s) changed. | 18:00 |
ayoung | bknudson, ++ | 18:00 |
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dolphm | the tricky part is going to be accurately communicating the end goal in the commit message then :) | 18:01 |
bknudson | I just need to take the time to figure out how to get that change in... probably need to get to a qa meeting. | 18:01 |
bknudson | they seem to be at a different time every week | 18:02 |
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bknudson | plus I'm easily distracted | 18:02 |
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dolphm | ayoung: s/un-accessible/inaccessible/ | 18:04 |
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ayoung | the is ac-cepta-bull | 18:04 |
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Anticimex | two questions: where can i read more about current efforts regarding running instances off of ceph? | 18:26 |
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Anticimex | and is any of the cluster filesystems that can be used for shared instance volume storage, rather than nfs, actually stable? (production launch of cloud targetted for ~september) | 18:27 |
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morganfainberg | mornin | 18:37 |
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dolphm | morganfainberg: ish | 18:38 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, fair point | 18:38 |
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Anticimex | morganfainberg: morning. i see your friend stevemar is here as well | 18:39 |
Anticimex | stevemar: are.. you in fact around | 18:39 |
Anticimex | ? | 18:39 |
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stevemar | Anticimex, hey hey | 18:40 |
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ayoung | stevemar, if I delete an access token, is there any reason to delete all of the tokens for a consumer, or was that just there for simplicity? | 18:45 |
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ayoung | With the revoke API I could add revoke by access token | 18:45 |
ayoung | or is the access_token_id not recorded in the Keystone token? | 18:46 |
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stevemar | ayoung, hmm, let me see the docs | 18:48 |
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ayoung | stevemar, I can see if it is in the token | 18:49 |
ayoung | what is the right semantics? | 18:49 |
stevemar | both access_token_id and consumer_id are in the keystone token | 18:49 |
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ayoung | stevemar, I'm going to be using the notifications (thanks morganfainberg and jamielennox|away for browbeating me into it) | 18:51 |
ayoung | and I need to add some to oauth | 18:51 |
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stevemar | ayoung, i'm tempted to agree with you, and say it was just there for simplicity | 18:52 |
ayoung | stevemar, we have 3 entities: consumer, access token, and request token. Req tok can only be used once, right? | 18:52 |
stevemar | ayoung, correct | 18:52 |
stevemar | ayoung, and request token can only be used to get an access token | 18:53 |
ayoung | a consumer could have multiple access tokens? | 18:53 |
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stevemar | yep | 18:53 |
ayoung | access token can be used for a long time? | 18:53 |
dolphm | ayoung: expiry is optional | 18:53 |
ayoung | multiple tokens? | 18:53 |
stevemar | ayoung, yep, so really, it shouldn't be deleting all the consumers tokens | 18:53 |
termie | stevemar++ | 18:53 |
ayoung | dolphm, OK, so I'm extending the API to handle both consumer and access tokens...assuming both show up in the token | 18:54 |
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termie | stevemar: i'm graduating you from padawan to whatever the next level up is | 18:54 |
dolphm | ayoung: i don't understand | 18:54 |
stevemar | ayoung, but the consumer could always get *another* keystone token with his existing access token | 18:54 |
stevemar | termie lives! | 18:54 |
termie | stevemar: i'm just peanut gallery | 18:54 |
termie | stevemar: carry on | 18:54 |
ayoung | dolphm, API just has revoke by consumer. I'm going to implement revoke by access token id as well | 18:54 |
stevemar | termie, the awkward in adolescent stage between padawan and jedi | 18:55 |
stevemar | ayoung, probably the way to go, it's more specific that way, but we're not doing any serious damage now anyway | 18:55 |
ayoung | stevemar, thought Padawans were mostly adolescent. Think he really mean he 's promoting you from Youngling to Padawan | 18:55 |
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dolphm | ayoung: propose the API change too | 18:55 |
stevemar | womp womp | 18:56 |
ayoung | dolphm, will do. I'm going to implement it first, to make sure it is possible | 18:56 |
dolphm | ayoung: and i'm not sure both appear in the token... so you may not need both | 18:56 |
ayoung | API update will come after that | 18:56 |
Steap | dolphm: ayoung: Hey! I was just wondering whether you knew what the API should be in memcache_crypt.py; this would help me fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67199/ | 18:57 |
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ayoung | Steap, Tests tests tests tests tests tests | 18:57 |
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dolphm | Steap: let me see if i can get the original author on that review | 18:58 |
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stevemar | dolphm, ayoung, they are definitely both there: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/01d26314d316d61443ee3a4c55f6d06bac477600/keystone/token/providers/common.py#L199 | 18:59 |
ayoung | stevemar, ++ | 18:59 |
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Steap | dolphm: that would be great! | 18:59 |
ayoung | Pandora's "Gypsy Punk" just started playing Glenn Miller's in the Mood.... | 18:59 |
ayoung | Bit of a stretch... | 18:59 |
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dolphm | Steap: added him - it's bdpayne | 18:59 |
Steap | ayoung: even with the provided tests, we found it quite difficult to determine whether text strings or bytes should be passed to these methods :/ | 18:59 |
Steap | dolphm: thanks a lot | 18:59 |
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ayoung | Steap, memcache can handle it either way, right? | 19:00 |
ayoung | going to come out as bytes. | 19:00 |
Steap | ayoung: well, when switching to Python 3, I had to add calls to encode/decode | 19:00 |
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ayoung | I think different calls to memcache are not consistant | 19:01 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, this is more your bailywick | 19:01 |
morganfainberg | Steap, iirc hashing/encrypt needs bytes | 19:01 |
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Steap | the question is (and Victor Stinner asked it when reviewing): should it be done inside the methods, or before dcalling them ? | 19:01 |
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morganfainberg | Steap, memcache wont care | 19:01 |
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Steap | morganfainberg: indeed, so we should probably encode the arguments first | 19:01 |
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morganfainberg | Steap, memcache does effectively pickle if you pass it python structures | 19:02 |
Steap | morganfainberg: are you sure ? When running the tests in Python 3, I witnessed some failures | 19:02 |
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morganfainberg | Steap, so usually it is fine. | 19:02 |
morganfainberg | Steap, but when you need to do anything else on top of that, it needs some encode/decode esp. in py3k because strings aren't byte_str they're text | 19:02 |
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morganfainberg | Steap, but don't assume memcache is the only target. code it definsively to work against any backend (so encode/decode is much better when it comes to other processing) | 19:03 |
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Steap | morganfainberg: yes | 19:03 |
Steap | morganfainberg: ok, I'll probably run encode/decode prior to the calls | 19:04 |
browne | mriedem: ping | 19:04 |
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mriedem | browne: pong | 19:06 |
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browne | still planning anything for icehouse on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-encrypt-vcenter-passwords | 19:07 |
Steap | morganfainberg: thanks for the help! | 19:07 |
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ayoung | Ahhhh Gogol Bordello. The perfect music for hacking on Oauth1 | 19:08 |
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mriedem | browne: so right before the US xmas holiday i started poking around on refactoring/generalizing that internal code to push it up as a POC, but things sort of devolved quickly and then i was out for almost 2 weeks, | 19:09 |
mriedem | never got back to it, but not sure it's all that valuable | 19:09 |
ayoung | dolphm, @notifications.created("OAUTH1:access_token") look right? | 19:09 |
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ayoung | and for trusts it should be | 19:10 |
ayoung | @notifications.created('OS-TRUST:trust') right shardy ? | 19:10 |
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mriedem | browne: does barbican have anything that could handle some of that? | 19:10 |
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dolphm | ayoung: looks right to me from here | 19:10 |
ayoung | mriedem, seems like it is something that Barbican should handle | 19:10 |
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ayoung | storage of the passwords, that is | 19:11 |
browne | mriedem: ok understood. i realize there are strong opinions on this one. | 19:11 |
browne | i'll look at Barbican some more. hopefully its not too heavy weight | 19:11 |
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ayoung | browne, only makes sense if you want escrow | 19:12 |
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ayoung | if you dso...don't worry about "too heavy weight" worry about "done right" | 19:12 |
ayoung | dso -> do | 19:12 |
browne | ok | 19:12 |
browne | thanks | 19:13 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, ooooooh nortifications | 19:16 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, ah, saw your comment(s) above. really? moving towards notifications? | 19:17 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah, jamielennox|away convinced me last night to play around with it | 19:17 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, :) | 19:17 |
ayoung | and I have to say the two of you suggesting it meant I ignored it at my peril | 19:17 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, i actually like the implementation a good deal. | 19:17 |
ayoung | I can handle peril | 19:17 |
ayoung | just a little peril | 19:17 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, hehe | 19:17 |
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termie | does nova have a place somewhere where it outputs a document describing the api? | 19:18 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, It's dangerous to go alone. | 19:18 |
morganfainberg | termie, compute-api repo? *checks* | 19:18 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, so I am injecting a few more notifications...all over the flipping place! | 19:18 |
morganfainberg | termie, https://github.com/openstack/compute-api ? or looking for something more specific | 19:18 |
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termie | morganfainberg: oh gawd | 19:19 |
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ayoung | Zod | 19:19 |
ayoung | er Zawd? | 19:19 |
termie | morganfainberg: the language on github comes up as "smalltalk" and the first paragraph says "Apache Maven" | 19:19 |
termie | okay, second paragraph | 19:19 |
ayoung | heh, I think that is something you can safely ignore | 19:19 |
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ayoung | Maven is just used to convert the markdown, but it should be readable enough right out of git | 19:20 |
termie | is this used by nova somewhere? | 19:20 |
_cjones_ | termie: Or is this more what you're looking for? http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/2/content/ | 19:20 |
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termie | i don't want the docs, per-se, i want the place where the api is defined | 19:20 |
termie | unless nova is generating it's api from these docs somehow i'm looking for a place that lists all the calls | 19:21 |
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termie | from everything i've seen it _looks_ like it is generated in an object traversal kind of way | 19:21 |
termie | ah this might be close https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/v1.1 | 19:22 |
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termie | thought i don't see how atom fits in to this | 19:22 |
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termie | hmm these just seem to be data types | 19:23 |
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morganfainberg | termie, oh dear | 19:25 |
termie | wow, did things really get this xml-y, https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py | 19:27 |
morganfainberg | termie, i haven't looked there in a while. it appears it did | 19:28 |
termie | i'n not finding a place where those schemas are being schecked | 19:28 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, so, on notifications, we might have a problem withj the extensions. Things are going to be registering for notifications from extensions that might not be enabled. | 19:28 |
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termie | this stuff makes me want to cry :( | 19:29 |
termie | :'-( | 19:29 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, hm. so we need to have something that triggers it | 19:29 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, triggers the extension being enabled that is | 19:30 |
ayoung | nah | 19:30 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, ? | 19:30 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, we need to ignore notifications registration requests | 19:30 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, hm... oh rather than exploding? | 19:30 |
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ayoung | yeah | 19:30 |
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morganfainberg | or just register blindly and if a notification comes in call it good | 19:30 |
ayoung | if you register for notifications from something that never produces notifications you just get no notifications | 19:31 |
termie | is json no longer supported as an output format? | 19:31 |
morganfainberg | termie, it should be. i don't see why someone would get rid of that | 19:31 |
morganfainberg | termie, in fact... i'd be upset if JSON wasn't valid output format | 19:31 |
termie | all is see is @wsgi.serializers(xml=Foo) | 19:31 |
termie | maybe the json doesn't need special serializing | 19:31 |
morganfainberg | termie, likely, i think JSON might be a base format that just "happens" | 19:32 |
morganfainberg | termie, but... please don't quote me on that :P | 19:32 |
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morganfainberg | termie, ohh. reminds me i need to get a pin sent up to you. | 19:32 |
morganfainberg | termie, unless you're going to be in ATL, which case i'll just bring it with me. | 19:32 |
termie | vishy: remmeber how i want to generate tooling based on having a reflection api of all the calls in nova? | 19:32 |
termie | vishy: is there a place where i can get that info? | 19:33 |
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termie | vishy: (stuff like the reflection api in glance) | 19:33 |
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termie | morganfainberg: yeah, i expect to be at the thing in atlanta | 19:33 |
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vishy | termie: there isn't exactly | 19:34 |
morganfainberg | termie, cool. | 19:34 |
termie | vishy: right now i'm having trouble even figuring out where i can start traversing the call tree | 19:34 |
termie | vishy: the calls don't seem to have any signatures | 19:34 |
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termie | vishy: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L503 | 19:35 |
vishy | termie: so the apis are currently getting a jsonschema for validation | 19:36 |
termie | vishy: that is what i want | 19:36 |
termie | vishy: where do i haves it from | 19:36 |
vishy | termie: but your best bet currently would be to get the raw data from the tests | 19:36 |
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termie | vishy: is there even a super incomplete jsonschema for it somewhere? | 19:37 |
termie | vishy: i'd happily say, "hey this thing works against the stuff that is done so far" | 19:37 |
vishy | https://github.com/openstack/nova/tree/master/nova/tests/integrated/api_samples | 19:37 |
vishy | so that will have templates for all the json apis | 19:37 |
vishy | termie: for example https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/integrated/api_samples/all_extensions/server-get-resp.json.tpl | 19:38 |
vishy | the jsonschema is still being added | 19:38 |
termie | so right now they aren't actually jsonschema, they are just json, yea? | 19:38 |
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termie | got it | 19:38 |
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vishy | termie: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/v3/agents_schema.py | 19:38 |
termie | is there work being done on adding the json schema? | 19:38 |
termie | interesting | 19:38 |
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termie | minues the useless constraints stuff i bet most of this could be autogenerated from those samples | 19:39 |
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vishy | i don't think there is an extension where you can request the schema through the api though | 19:39 |
vishy | termie: that is what i was thinking | 19:39 |
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vishy | termie: but the schema will obviously be easier to parse in the future | 19:39 |
termie | vishy: i'm already generating the constraints programmatically based on variable name | 19:39 |
vishy | termie: are you reviving ocl? | 19:40 |
termie | vishy: so i bet i can generate the jsonschema from the request and response samples | 19:40 |
termie | vishy: yea | 19:40 |
vishy | termie: cool, there is a lot of discussion about shared client libraries on the ml right now | 19:40 |
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termie | vishy: but if i write this part, nova may be happy to have the jsonschemas i generate from the response data | 19:40 |
termie | and then tweak them to taste | 19:40 |
termie | s/response/req and response/ | 19:40 |
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termie | i'm cleaning up the ocl docs a little bit right now, but i need a good nova demo to make people care | 19:41 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, so https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/notifications.py#L97 i think that and the if-statement above it should be removed to solve your issue(s) of having things registered for a resource that wont receive events (e.g. non-active extension) | 19:42 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, yep | 19:42 |
termie | vishy: i am hesitant to destroy my morale by looking at the mailing list :/ | 19:42 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, you proposing the change or want me to? i'm def. on board with making that happen | 19:42 |
ayoung | go ahead | 19:42 |
dtroyer | termie: skip that thread, its >75 messages and doesn't say much you don't already know | 19:42 |
morganfainberg | ok will post shortly | 19:42 |
termie | dtroyer: -phew- | 19:43 |
dtroyer | termie: except for stuff you don't care about | 19:43 |
termie | dtroyer: like opinions | 19:43 |
termie | dtroyer: :p | 19:43 |
dtroyer | termie: yup, and putting lipstick on legacy client libs | 19:43 |
termie | okay, i'll try to whip something up from this sample data and see whether nova wants it | 19:43 |
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termie | vishy: hmm, i notice a bunch of these don't have the request side | 19:56 |
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stevemar | dtroyer, ping | 20:02 |
termie | alright, i have a favor to ask from somebody who already has a devstack setup that can run the integrated tests, i would like a mitmproxy dump of all the traffic for the tests, i can get the info i need from that :) | 20:02 |
termie | http://mitmproxy.org/doc/mitmdump.html | 20:02 |
dtroyer | stevemar: yo | 20:02 |
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termie | (assuming the tests run against a running devstack instance, i really have no idea anymore) | 20:03 |
stevemar | dtroyer, my favorite topic, osc and devstack :) | 20:03 |
termie | open sound control? | 20:03 |
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stevemar | termie, openstackclient, close though :) | 20:04 |
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stevemar | dtroyer, changing identity version to v3 seems to break a bunch of other services that start up, since most use keystoneclient | 20:04 |
stevemar | dtroyer, so would porting a few of those commands over to osc first make more sense? though thats a lot of work :( | 20:05 |
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dtroyer | stevemar: its either that or make a v3 cli in keystoneclient | 20:06 |
dtroyer | stevemar: is there anything that isn't implemented in osc yet? | 20:06 |
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stevemar | dtroyer, if it's missing, it's probably an edge case, aside from neutron (which terry is doing last i checked) | 20:07 |
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termie | i think i can pull the data i need out of https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/integrated/test_api_samples.py if i can get enough of the code to run (ideally wihtout installing nova) | 20:10 |
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terrylhowe | dtroyer what needs to be added to keystoneclient? | 20:14 |
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termie | hmm maybe not :/ | 20:14 |
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dtroyer | terrylhowe: nothing…there are tests that call keystone that are not aware of the v3 API…those need to be changed to handle either…even if keystone had a v3 CLI the test would still need some attention | 20:15 |
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termie | :( how is there no way to iterate over this frickin api | 20:17 |
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lyxus | For tempest, I was wondering 1) Is tempest supposed to be passing 100% of the test from the trunk 2) Does the standard use the openvswitch plugin | 20:25 |
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bknudson | can I tell pip to install to my python3 lib rather than python2.6? | 20:36 |
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bknudson | never mind, found it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10763440/how-to-install-python3-version-of-package-via-pip | 20:37 |
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dolphm | bknudson: python3 + pip3 :) | 20:40 |
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ayoung | bknudson, dolphm I'm going to post another patch of the revocations. Its more unified that the last one, since all of the callbacks have moved from inline in the other Managers etc to revoke/core.py I can further split it out if we think it needs to be, but I'd like to get it up for review. | 20:57 |
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ayoung | it means that this review is going to get abandoned: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55908/ | 20:59 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, have you submitted that notifications patch? | 21:01 |
ayoung | If not, don't | 21:01 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68470/1 | 21:01 |
ayoung | ah | 21:01 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, | 21:01 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, i can abandon | 21:01 |
ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55908/32/keystone/notifications.py | 21:01 |
morganfainberg | nbd | 21:01 |
morganfainberg | oh | 21:02 |
morganfainberg | sure, thats fine | 21:02 |
morganfainberg | i can torch mine | 21:02 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, i'll abandon mine | 21:02 |
ayoung | hmmm, mine didn't trigger a test failure | 21:02 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, Ah..yes it did | 21:03 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, keep yours, but add my changes | 21:06 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, bah, | 21:06 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, already abandoned :P | 21:07 |
ayoung | so unadandon | 21:07 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, np, i can bring it back w/ that change. | 21:07 |
ayoung | thanks. I'll rebase on that | 21:07 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, but are you going to rebase on top of it? | 21:07 |
morganfainberg | ok | 21:07 |
morganfainberg | give me a couple | 21:07 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, add in the disable change, too? | 21:07 |
morganfainberg | hmm? | 21:07 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, oh sure | 21:08 |
lbragstad | whoa https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone,n,z | 21:08 |
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morganfainberg | lbragstad, ooh lots merged | 21:08 |
morganfainberg | lbragstad, it's way better than it was | 21:08 |
ayoung | lbragstad, lots approved...and 4 pages of reviews | 21:08 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, any other notifications related stuff? | 21:15 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, or just those two? | 21:15 |
morganfainberg | disabled and ? | 21:15 |
morganfainberg | the add to the resource list set | 21:15 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, just those. I have a few places I will be injecting new notifications, but that should be a follow on patch | 21:15 |
morganfainberg | ok | 21:15 |
ayoung | Still working on it | 21:15 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, ok should be posted now | 21:17 |
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markwash | sdague: nice writeup | 21:22 |
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sdague | markwash: thanks | 21:23 |
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morganfainberg | sdague, ++ on a good direction | 21:30 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, self.oauth_api.delete_access_token(user_id, access_token_id) is messing up notifications. Any way I can get both values? | 21:45 |
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ayoung | Writing code is the fun part of this job. I should do it more often. | 21:48 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, OK, I need another change to notifications. I'll submit as part of my other patch, but it looks like this | 21:49 |
ayoung | @notifications.deleted("OS-OAUTH1:access_token", resource_index=2) | 21:49 |
ayoung | maybe that should be arg_index | 21:49 |
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stevemar | ayoung, messing up cause it has multiple args? | 22:00 |
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Anticimex | stevemar: hey | 22:32 |
Anticimex | (was away) | 22:32 |
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Anticimex | stevemar: pm (pasting) | 22:34 |
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ayoung | stevemar, yeah, it was sending the user_id, but I needed the access token id. I probably need both, though. is access_token_id a uuid? | 22:39 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, hm | 22:57 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, might need that index arg | 22:58 |
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stevemar | ayoung, yep, access tokens are uuids | 23:02 |
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vishy | adam_g: any idea why keystone is restarted after log rotation? | 23:29 |
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vishy | zul: ^^ | 23:30 |
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zzelle | vishy: strange normally it's not required because oslo uses watchedfilehandler | 23:35 |
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clarkb | zzelle: keystone does not use oslo for logging | 23:35 |
zzelle | huhum | 23:35 |
morganfainberg | clarkb, huh? | 23:35 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, didn't we move to oslo logging in havana? | 23:36 |
clarkb | morganfainberg: keystone does not use oslo.logging for logging | 23:36 |
morganfainberg | clarkb, i'm almost positive we do | 23:36 |
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clarkb | morganfainberg: if you do it is ancient because keystone logs are completely different than everyone else | 23:36 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, i am almost 100% positive we sync'd all of that in havana | 23:37 |
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zzelle | vishy: keystone logging.conf uses WatchedFileHandler which support file rotations | 23:38 |
clarkb | morganfainberg: you didn't | 23:38 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, ok so stable havana claims keystone.openstack.common.log was 6mo ago | 23:39 |
morganfainberg | and the BP claims completion for 2013.2 | 23:39 |
morganfainberg | and i _know_ we use openstack.common.log in icehouse i just did a patch to normalize the import | 23:40 |
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clarkb | morganfainberg: I am trying to pull up examples but files are huge and making my browser slow | 23:40 |
zzelle | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/openstack/common/log.py | 23:41 |
morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42224/ | 23:41 |
morganfainberg | for example | 23:41 |
zzelle | ... | 23:41 |
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clarkb | morganfainberg: compare http://logs.openstack.org/12/68412/2/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/b687da3/logs/screen-key.txt.gz?level=INFO to http://logs.openstack.org/12/68412/2/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/b687da3/logs/screen-n-crt.txt.gz?level=INFO | 23:41 |
clarkb | morganfainberg: they are very different | 23:41 |
ttx | notmyname: ping | 23:42 |
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ttx | notmyname: on https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.12.0 - should I defer remove-swiftclient-dependency or mark it "implemented" ? | 23:43 |
zzelle | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/credential/core.py#L27 | 23:43 |
morganfainberg | clarkb, https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/config.py#L20 default log format does not mean we don't use olso logging | 23:43 |
ttx | notmyname: same question for bug 1262341 | 23:43 |
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clarkb | morganfainberg: the format is built into oslo.logging. are you overriding it? | 23:43 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, doesn't look like it actually | 23:43 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, but tbh, not 100% sure, let me check. | 23:43 |
clarkb | hrm I thought it was built in. I had to do glance when I did the logstash stuff to get them on the same format | 23:44 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, looks like that line is not actually being used (_DEFAULT_LOG_FORMAT in config) | 23:44 |
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clarkb | morganfainberg: I would expect all projects using oslo.logging to have to same default format because it should be built into oslo.logging. If that isn't the case I guess we got lucky with all of the other projects using it? | 23:46 |
morganfainberg | clarkb, i know we're using the common logger. | 23:46 |
clarkb | is it up to date? | 23:46 |
morganfainberg | sec | 23:46 |
morganfainberg | looking | 23:46 |
clarkb | maybe it was synced against an old version | 23:46 |
morganfainberg | clarkb, 2mo ago was the last update | 23:46 |
bknudson | clarkb: morganfainberg: devstack sets up the logging | 23:47 |
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clarkb | bknudson: using the defaults supplied by the project | 23:48 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, that was what i was looking into next | 23:48 |
clarkb | which should be oslo defaults | 23:48 |
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bknudson | Here's our default logging.conf: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/etc/logging.conf.sample | 23:48 |
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morganfainberg | aha | 23:49 |
morganfainberg | logging.conf | 23:49 |
bknudson | I was just looking at that file... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67331/ | 23:49 |
morganfainberg | i forgot that gets used | 23:49 |
clarkb | aha thats the problem | 23:49 |
clarkb | it sets formatter normal to that weird format | 23:49 |
bknudson | we could change it to whatever. | 23:49 |
morganfainberg | clarkb, see we do use oslo! ;) | 23:49 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, we just make a funky format | 23:49 |
clarkb | bknudson: I think it should be removed | 23:50 |
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clarkb | but I could be wrong about that. | 23:50 |
bknudson | clarkb: the config file/ | 23:50 |
bknudson | or just some setting in there? | 23:50 |
clarkb | bknudson: basically my desire for logging is that if everything uses oslo.logging we get an identical default | 23:50 |
clarkb | that way people writing log parsers don't have to do a different one for each project | 23:50 |
bknudson | clarkb: is there a bug? | 23:50 |
morganfainberg | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/logging_sample.conf | 23:50 |
clarkb | bknudson: there may have been at one time, but I gave up on that goal long ago | 23:51 |
morganfainberg | probably need to look at what nova is doing... and see what we can do thats similar | 23:51 |
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clarkb | morganfainberg: honestly I think it should be pulled in someplace central so that they don't diverge | 23:51 |
clarkb | bknudson: keystone isn't the only project that has funny formats | 23:51 |
bknudson | we should have the same format... I'd suggest someone else submit the change because mine don't seem to get reviewed. | 23:51 |
morganfainberg | clarkb, but in the case of nova they have the context formatter and non-context formatter | 23:51 |
morganfainberg | where keystone doesn't use the same semantics iirc | 23:52 |
clarkb | oh I see and it points back into oslo.logging | 23:52 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, i don't know if you can make it "centralized" | 23:52 |
clarkb | morganfainberg: you can, just sync it like everything else | 23:52 |
bknudson | somehow some nova-specifics slipped into oslo logging | 23:52 |
clarkb | morganfainberg: or do you mean the semantics are sufficiently different that everything would break? | 23:53 |
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morganfainberg | clarkb, that i think nova specifics in oslo.logging might be wrong | 23:53 |
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clarkb | morganfainberg: I think thats fair | 23:53 |
morganfainberg | common framework != project specifics. | 23:53 |
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clarkb | but openstack should have a single default log format | 23:53 |
clarkb | again so that when I run the 25 processes that give me an openstack I don't need 5 different log parsers | 23:54 |
morganfainberg | clarkb, well... if you go by RFC5424, we are doing it very wrong and should use the structured data fields for some of the stuff nova is doing | 23:54 |
bknudson | clarkb: what's the right log format? whatever's in olso? | 23:54 |
morganfainberg | which case, yes, it would be fine | 23:54 |
morganfainberg | but we're not really RFC5424 compliant | 23:54 |
clarkb | bknudson: I actually don't care as long as it is common :) | 23:54 |
clarkb | bknudson: and that you include microsecond resolution | 23:54 |
bknudson | clarkb: is n-crt's ok? | 23:55 |
clarkb | bknudson: n-crt's matches the most common format | 23:55 |
bknudson | that doesn't have microsecond | 23:55 |
clarkb | nova, neutron, cinder, glance, heat, ceilometer, | 23:55 |
clarkb | bknudson: yes it does | 23:55 |
clarkb | er millisecond? I can do conversions honest | 23:56 |
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bknudson | it's milliseconds, if that's good enough | 23:56 |
clarkb | yeah sorry | 23:56 |
bknudson | keystone can't do anything that fast anyways. | 23:56 |
bknudson | it's python | 23:56 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, lol | 23:56 |
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bknudson | clarkb: I'll open a bug... I should be able to work on it. | 23:57 |
bknudson | morganfainberg's got to get parallel testing working. | 23:57 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, i needed to wait until I2 cleaned up | 23:57 |
clarkb | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/templates/logstash/indexer.conf.erb illustrates the larger picture problem | 23:58 |
bknudson | morganfainberg: could be a while | 23:58 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah it's hard to make parallel tesitng work because i need to fix the load_backends to be called 1 time | 23:58 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, and mucking with tests when things are merging at this pace (slow as it is) is very hard to keep up | 23:58 |
bknudson | morganfainberg: and also use testresources for the pristine db | 23:59 |
morganfainberg | just too much pending merge to make the kind of changes i need to make at the moment. | 23:59 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, if parallel testing can "work" i'll make that happen separatelty | 23:59 |
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