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| jog0 | dhellmann: ping | 00:34 |
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| jog0 | jd__: ^ | 00:35 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: I think oslo-incubator is broken right now | 00:36 |
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| jog0 | dims: ^ | 00:40 |
| dims | jog0, any pointers? | 00:41 |
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| jog0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55606/ | 00:42 |
| jog0 | dims: see my comments | 00:42 |
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| jog0 | the solution should be straight forward i think | 00:42 |
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| jog0 | copy openstack/common/__init__.py every time | 00:43 |
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| jog0 | dims: this is why oslo-incubator needs to have a test to make sure things work | 00:51 |
| jog0 | integrated test in devstack | 00:51 |
| dims | jog0, not sure i follow the original issue. 55606 seems to point to something that is merged already...what jobs broke as a result of that merge? | 00:53 |
| jog0 | ./update.sh --nodeps --modules fixture --base nova --dest-dir ../nova | 00:54 |
| jog0 | nova can't use moxstubout | 00:54 |
| jog0 | six.moves.mox isn't known in nova | 00:54 |
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| dims | jog0, got it now. thx | 01:02 |
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| jog0 | dims: any ideas on a how to fix | 01:04 |
| jog0 | not familer with update.py | 01:05 |
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| dims | jog0, there is a spot that copies __init__.py it's probably not doing it for the one just under openstack.common | 01:11 |
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| jog0 | dims: its _create_module_init | 01:15 |
| jog0 | not sure how to change it though | 01:16 |
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| jog0 | why is oslo-incubator always half broken? | 01:16 |
| dims | jog0, it's hard to predict what code gets pulled from there by which project | 01:17 |
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| jog0 | dims: which is what integration testing is for | 01:18 |
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| dims | jog0, my pref as well as others is to just get rid of oslo-incubator :) | 01:21 |
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| jog0 | dims: sure, thats a long term solution | 01:26 |
| jog0 | until then | 01:26 |
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| jog0 | the status queue is aweful | 01:26 |
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| dims | the status queue is because of this problem? | 01:29 |
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| jog0 | status quo* | 01:30 |
| jog0 | dims: because we don't gate oslo-incubator on it working, yes | 01:31 |
| lifeless | jog0: arguably its because we don't use oslo-incubator as though it was a library ;) | 01:32 |
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| jog0 | lifeless: I would argue that too, but right now I just want this to work | 01:34 |
| jog0 | dims: can you hammer out a update.py patch? I am giving up on it | 01:34 |
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| dims | yep. on it | 01:35 |
| jog0 | dims: thanks | 01:35 |
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| * jog0 files a bug | 01:35 | |
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| jog0 | lifeless: thoughts on gating oslo-incuabator in the syncs working? | 01:35 |
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| lifeless | jog0: so what I'd like to do is run the script to copy oslo into a project, across all projects | 01:37 |
| lifeless | but I expect folk attached to the 'its too hard meme' will object on the basis that then we can't do backwards incompatible changes in oslo | 01:37 |
| jog0 | lifeless: thats a lame excuse | 01:37 |
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| jog0 | I aree with you | 01:37 |
| lifeless | jog0: my problem is that once we cross that bridge there is no distinguishing characteristic to -incubator vs real libraries | 01:38 |
| lifeless | jog0: and I get tempted to go off about *that* | 01:38 |
| jog0 | lifeless: everyone wants to see oslo-incubator be turned into a lib | 01:39 |
| jog0 | anyway | 01:39 |
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| lifeless | jog0: I don't believe everyone does - I think everyone wwants to see libs extracted from it, which is a much weaker statement | 01:39 |
| jog0 | lifeless: true | 01:39 |
| jog0 | lifeless: anyway the status quo makes me mad | 01:40 |
| jog0 | just wasted a day trying to get './update.sh --nodeps --modules fixture --base nova --dest-dir ../nova' working | 01:40 |
| lifeless | jog0: welcome to the 7th circle | 01:40 |
| lifeless | jog0: last time this came up was when we broke nova->neutron due to stale oslo code | 01:41 |
| jog0 | lifeless: I remember that one | 01:41 |
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| dims | jog0, did not know you were stuck on this. apologies | 01:41 |
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| jog0 | dims: so I don't think my solution will work | 01:42 |
| jog0 | oh wait oslo libs use oslo namesapce | 01:42 |
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| jog0 | this is in nova/opentack/common | 01:42 |
| jog0 | never mind | 01:42 |
| jog0 | dims: that and oslo-incubator hasn't been synced into nova in months | 01:43 |
| jog0 | dims: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1281860 | 01:44 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1281860 in oslo "oslo-incubator update.py doesn't work for fixture/moxstubout.py" [Undecided,New] | 01:44 |
| * jog0 writes a email for ML | 01:44 | |
| lifeless | may the rant be with you? | 01:44 |
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| jog0 | lifeless: I am just going to ask oslo team to be responsable for pushing out code to the projects | 01:44 |
| jog0 | on a regular basis | 01:44 |
| jog0 | because this is crazy | 01:45 |
| dims | jog0, we can push it just won't get merged :) | 01:45 |
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| jog0 | dims: thats fine, long as you get it passing the gatge | 01:45 |
| dims | jog0, https://review.openstack.org/74556 | 01:45 |
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| dims | dhellmann, if you are still around, please rush https://review.openstack.org/74556 for jog0 :) | 01:46 |
| jog0 | dims: it worked, thanks! | 01:47 |
| jog0 | well only partially worked | 01:47 |
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| jog0 | didn't sync openstack/__init__.py | 01:48 |
| jog0 | but that doesn't matter for now | 01:48 |
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| asalkeld | anyone know how to tell pbr (via setup.cfg [entrypoints]) that I want "/usr/bin/python3" ? | 02:07 |
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| jog0 | dims: I have more complaints about oslo-incubator | 02:08 |
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| dims | jog0, :) shoot | 02:08 |
| jog0 | 'tox -epy27' runs tests twice | 02:08 |
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| jog0 | so http://logs.openstack.org/13/74513/1/check/gate-oslo-incubator-python27/21ca345/testr_results.html.gz | 02:08 |
| jog0 | is green | 02:08 |
| jog0 | but http://logs.openstack.org/13/74513/1/check/gate-oslo-incubator-python27/21ca345/console.html failed | 02:08 |
| jog0 | gah | 02:09 |
| dims | thats work in progress, trying to split testsuite into things we can run in parallel and those we cannot i believe | 02:10 |
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| jog0 | dims: but it messes up the log collection | 02:10 |
| jog0 | which is not cool | 02:11 |
| dims | agree | 02:11 |
| jog0 | in tempest external locks are used | 02:11 |
| jog0 | dims: you ever see this http://logs.openstack.org/13/74513/1/check/gate-oslo-incubator-python27/21ca345/console.html#_2014-02-19_02_00_49_051 | 02:12 |
| clarkb | can we kill the openstack.common.lockutils usage around tox commands? | 02:12 |
| clarkb | its a bit overkill and has been cargo culted to extremes | 02:12 |
| clarkb | single process test suites are using it | 02:13 |
| jog0 | clarkb: lolz | 02:13 |
| jog0 | clarkb: so many complaints so little time :) | 02:14 |
| dims | :) | 02:15 |
| jog0 | dims lifeless: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/027519.html | 02:16 |
| jog0 | my rant | 02:16 |
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| lifeless | I hate bugs like 1280100 | 02:17 |
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| lifeless | the code may revert in future | 02:17 |
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| lifeless | really needs to be a gate checkof some sort, and fix as a consequence | 02:18 |
| lifeless | and they are -so- noisy | 02:18 |
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| jog0 | lifeless: agreed | 02:18 |
| jog0 | I am tempted to -2 server patches | 02:19 |
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| lifeless | jog0: well I think we need to talk to the filer | 02:19 |
| lifeless | and solve at source | 02:19 |
| lifeless | this is the second in about 2 weeks | 02:19 |
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| lifeless | I think we've failed to communicate effectively | 02:19 |
| clarkb | lifeless: also the spell check fixes... | 02:19 |
| lifeless | clarkb: yes | 02:19 |
| lifeless | my objection isn't the fix | 02:19 |
| lifeless | its the surrounding noise | 02:20 |
| lifeless | one person doing a raft of changes - fine, do that. | 02:20 |
| clarkb | right, and that we aren't enforcing the checks so it can and probably will just go back to broken | 02:20 |
| lifeless | coordinating a group - then bugs and blueprints are useful. | 02:20 |
| jog0 | clarkb: I'll take the blame for that one | 02:20 |
| lifeless | clarkb: spellcheck is more nuance there.. | 02:20 |
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| clarkb | spell check fixes are a great way to get used to the process and are a good introduction to the project | 02:20 |
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| lifeless | right | 02:21 |
| clarkb | but to gerrit ls-projects and blindly do it for every project is a bit much | 02:21 |
| lifeless | nova console-log fe7ed8d3-ddad-4e9f-ad9c-0b68c9622e1c | 02:21 |
| lifeless | ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-e0083366-5c76-4c6b-b8fe-8b2cb3e7664a) | 02:21 |
| lifeless | ah nova, I do so love thee | 02:21 |
| jog0 | lifeless: haha | 02:21 |
| clarkb | jog0: I don't think it is a terrible idea, but there is a line between introducing one self to process and spam | 02:21 |
| lifeless | jog0: did you get to look at migration for us? | 02:22 |
| dims | so jog0 let's watch and see how long it takes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74560/ to get in :) | 02:22 |
| jog0 | dims: thats besides the point | 02:24 |
| jog0 | reviews take time, thats ok with me | 02:24 |
| jog0 | if it takes 2 weeks no problem | 02:24 |
| jog0 | I can wait | 02:24 |
| jog0 | but if oslo team gets better at pushing these we trust em more | 02:24 |
| jog0 | and they land faster | 02:24 |
| jog0 | lifeless: no :( got stuck in oslo land today | 02:24 |
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| jog0 | hence the oslo rage | 02:27 |
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| lifeless | jog0: I need to give you some ranting lessons | 02:32 |
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| jog0 | lifeless: that would be great! | 02:37 |
| lifeless | jog0: your oslo rage came across as a polite request :) | 02:37 |
| jog0 | I decided to tone it down in the end | 02:38 |
| lifeless | you succeeded! | 02:38 |
| dims | i bore the brunt here :) | 02:38 |
| jog0 | thanks dims! | 02:39 |
| dims | anytime :) | 02:40 |
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| cfriesen | does anyone know what happens if a function decorated with @utils.synchronized(COMPUTE_RESOURCE_SEMAPHORE) calls another with the same synchronization? My understanding is that a vanilla semaphore would block so do we tweak it to make it so the lock owner can aquire it again? | 05:17 |
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| ik__ | hi | 06:35 |
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| ik__ | there are two versions of unit test cases | 06:36 |
| ik__ | I mean in cinder we can run unit test cases either via tox or run_tests | 06:36 |
| ik__ | run_tests defaults to python 2.7 | 06:36 |
| ik__ | is there a way I can set it to python2.6 by any chace? | 06:37 |
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| clarkb | use tox? | 06:37 |
| ik__ | run_tests allows me to run individual tests | 06:38 |
| ik__ | can I do the same with tox? | 06:38 |
| ik__ | that would be greate | 06:38 |
| ik__ | *great | 06:38 |
| clarkb | yes. tox -epy26 -- test_name | 06:38 |
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| ik__ | thanks! it worked | 06:41 |
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| rameshg87 | Hi | 10:46 |
| rameshg87 | i had a query regarding one of the reviews in openstack/requirements | 10:46 |
| rameshg87 | is this the right place to ask ? | 10:46 |
| henrynash | anyone know what's up with the check queue / jenkins….I think it's ground to a halt? | 10:47 |
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| asalkeld | ping jd__ | 11:32 |
| asalkeld | are there any openstack projects using trollius? | 11:33 |
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| asalkeld | just wondering how this fits into pecan | 11:34 |
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| asalkeld | (maybe nothing needs to be done there) | 11:34 |
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| jd__ | asalkeld: oslo.messaging is being ported | 11:39 |
| asalkeld | ok and using it with pecan? | 11:40 |
| asalkeld | any idea | 11:40 |
| asalkeld | I'd guess pecan needs to be using the loop too | 11:40 |
| asalkeld | else there is not going to be much gain | 11:41 |
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| viktors | jd__: hi | 11:55 |
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| om | Friends, I need help with Tempest Configurations | 12:11 |
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| om | someone on Tempest Online | 12:22 |
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| jd__ | asalkeld: yeah that's always the same problem with event loop, though adding support to pecan would be a win for all projects :) | 12:35 |
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| asalkeld | jd__, i think it's more in the area of wsgiref | 12:36 |
| asalkeld | and httpserver | 12:36 |
| asalkeld | it does the real io | 12:36 |
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| jd__ | asalkeld: probable indeed, though if you serv via mod_wsgi or the like, you may want to use a totally different event loop? | 12:36 |
| jd__ | or it's part of wsgiref maybe, I don't know these layers that much | 12:37 |
| asalkeld | k | 12:37 |
| asalkeld | I'll do something simple for now | 12:37 |
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| asalkeld | jd__, http://paste.openstack.org/show/67256/ | 12:41 |
| asalkeld | looks a lot like ceilometer runner | 12:41 |
| asalkeld | :) | 12:41 |
| asalkeld | that seems to woork | 12:42 |
| jd__ | asalkeld: nice, though I'm worried about usage of the WSGI app directly (via mod_wsgi or the like) | 12:42 |
| asalkeld | yeah, sure | 12:43 |
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| viktors | jd__: ping? | 12:51 |
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| jd__ | viktors: ? | 12:56 |
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| viktors | jd__: hell | 12:57 |
| viktors | jd__: *hello | 12:57 |
| viktors | jd__: I have a newbie question | 12:57 |
| viktors | jd__: how should I make review request in oslo? What is the best practice? | 12:58 |
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| jd__ | viktors: the same as all project | 13:00 |
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| viktors | jd__: make it in irc-chat? ) | 13:05 |
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| jd__ | viktors: we do review everything once in a while I hope :) | 13:08 |
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| viktors | jd__: I've added you as reviewer to some patches in Oslo. Please look at them, when you'll have a time. | 13:14 |
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| ekarlso | BobBall: are there any package repos now for xenserver ? | 13:51 |
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| lon | therve: should I remove the __main__ test code from systemd.py while I'm ther? | 14:31 |
| lon | tjhere | 14:31 |
| lon | g'lord | 14:31 |
| lon | there | 14:31 |
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| lon | or simply reduce it to a simpler startup_notify("/bin/true") | 14:32 |
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| therve | lon, I guess you should remove it as well. I thought it was executable at some point, but it doesn't need to indeed | 14:34 |
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| lon | therve: ok! | 14:35 |
| lon | thanks | 14:35 |
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| thurloat | Hey everyone! thanks for being awesome :) | 14:42 |
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| om | Tempest API Compute tests give the Connection Time out error: Connection timed out | 15:41 |
| om | what could be the possible reason | 15:41 |
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| tongli | hi, any one there? have problems installing devstack, it keeps failing on this error | 15:53 |
| tongli | 2014-02-19 10:49:16 ++ glance --os-auth-token a58ad5ca59a04d31b0273490a575ca11 --os-image-url http://9.27.177.35:9292 image-create --name cirros-0.3.1-x86_64-uec-ramdisk --is-public True --container-format ari --disk-format ari 2014-02-19 10:49:16 ++ get_field 2 2014-02-19 10:49:16 ++ read data 2014-02-19 10:49:16 ++ grep ' id ' 2014-02-19 10:49:17 HTTPInternalServerError (HTTP 500) | 15:53 |
| tongli | anybody seen the similar problem? | 15:53 |
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| om | Tempest API Compute tests give Connection Time out error | 15:57 |
| om | what could be the reason? | 15:57 |
| om | Can someone pls help identify | 15:57 |
| om | Last line is: File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 913, in connect | 15:57 |
| om | raise socket.error, msg | 15:57 |
| om | error: [Errno 110] Connection timed out | 15:57 |
| om | I'm trying to run tempest tests from outside of the openstack setup | 15:57 |
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| om | so, I've provided the Public IP addresses in the etc/tempest.conf file | 15:57 |
| om | All my API tests get stuck at trying to access an internal IP. Typically with the last line as: Request: POST http://10.135.120.120:35357/v2.0/tenants | 15:57 |
| om | Now, if I'm not providing this internal IP in my tempest configuration, where is it picking it from | 15:57 |
| om | Also is this a Tempest Configuration error OR an error with the Setup | 15:57 |
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| ik__ | in nova | 15:59 |
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| ik__ | is there a way to validate if IP exists in the network? apart from getting hostname via socket calls ? | 16:01 |
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| dims | dhellmann, good morning. when you get a chance, please review these two - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74569/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74669/ | 16:12 |
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| dhellmann | dims: looking | 16:13 |
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| dhellmann | dims: how did it go with that requirements file fix? | 16:13 |
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| dhellmann | dims: +2 A and +1 | 16:14 |
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| dims | dhellmann, infra folks are busy, so the plan is to make the job not-voting so we can deliver a better requirements.txt and then re-enable the job | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | dims: makes sense | 16:16 |
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| dims | dhellman, thanks. i am off for a few hours will check in when i get back. ttyl | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | dims: is it easy to figure out which script to run for that test? we could add a step to the import instructions | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | dims: ok, later | 16:17 |
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| YorikSar | ayoung: around? | 16:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, dims, ny suggestion is to fix docs building with the first commit and only make non-voting requirements and py33 | 16:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | my* | 16:23 |
| ayoung | Alas poor YorikSar, wwe've moved to #openstack-keystone | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: that's reasonable | 16:23 |
| YorikSar | ayoung: Ok, moving there :) | 16:23 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, the reason is that we'd like to avoid non-voting jobs in gate pipileine and doc is added from template, so, you'll need to unwrap template to remove docs from gate pipe | 16:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, so, it sounds that it's much easier to just fix docs build :) | 16:24 |
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| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: sure -- at this point we can't fix anything because of an issue with the requirements check job | 16:25 |
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| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: so we at least need that job non-voting for 1 commit | 16:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, what's up with requirements job? | 16:26 |
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| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: the requirements.txt file we imported does not end in a newline, so when the check script examines it to ensure that the changes are valid it fails to parse it | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: it never even gets to the point of looking at the new version of the file because the old version fails to parse properly | 16:27 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, oh | 16:28 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, adding this to the backlog | 16:28 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: hope my follow up email doesn't come accross as too ragey | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | jog0: you've piqued my interest, going to read | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | jog0: it hasn't made it through to my inbox yet | 16:42 |
| jog0 | sent it a second ago | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | jog0: figured as much | 16:43 |
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| jog0 | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/027578.html | 16:43 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: the incubator isn't going away, but I hope to have much less code in it, and to move code through it faster | 16:44 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: and I agree, syncing to 10+ other projects is time consuming -- but that's also not the job the oslo team signed up to do | 16:44 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: our charter is to help developers create reusable libraries with API and implementation advice | 16:45 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: well this was a nasty side effect | 16:45 |
| jog0 | but that is a bad excuse | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | jog0: I don't disagree | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | oslo isn't a place for people to throw code for someone else to maintain | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | it's supposed to be a collaboration tool | 16:45 |
| jog0 | the syncing to 10 projects makess me never want to touch oslo-incubatorand make local fixes | 16:45 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: whether or not you actually sync to every consumer is up to you and the consumers | 16:46 |
| jog0 | lets look at this from the other direction | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | but the fact that almost no one wants to even review oslo sync patches into their project, much less submit them, is what is driving me to move as much code into libs as possible | 16:46 |
| jog0 | nova is ~10k lines off | 16:46 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: no one wants to review em because they are unrevewable due to size | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | jog0: yep | 16:47 |
| jog0 | so nova is 10k off, cinder is good at 4k | 16:47 |
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| jog0 | neither is acceptable IMH | 16:47 |
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| jog0 | IMHO | 16:47 |
| jog0 | how do we fix for icehouse | 16:47 |
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| jog0 | Juno we have an answer, libs | 16:47 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: the only fix is for both teams to stop saying it's the other group's responsibility and to work together on it | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | it may be too late for icehouse, I really don't know | 16:48 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: so I tried to do an oslo sync and oslo was broken | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | jog0: how? | 16:48 |
| jog0 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1281860 | 16:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1281860 in oslo "oslo-incubator update.py doesn't work for fixture/moxstubout.py" [Undecided,New] | 16:49 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: ok (thanks for filing the bug report, by the way) | 16:49 |
| jog0 | dims has a patch up that helepd me | 16:49 |
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| jog0 | once we get over the hump of keeping code <200 lines or so of oslo | 16:50 |
| jog0 | it should be much easier to land patches downstream | 16:50 |
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| jog0 | another reason this concerns me is: the oslo-incubator code has had critical bug fixes in the past | 16:51 |
| jog0 | that didn't make it out | 16:51 |
| jog0 | and caused much headache | 16:51 |
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| dhellmann | these are all the reasons I'm pushing for libraries | 16:51 |
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| dhellmann | until about a week ago, we didn't even have complete instructions for creating a new project, though | 16:51 |
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| dhellmann | we had a lot of steps that only a few people in the community knew about, much less understood | 16:52 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: awesome, but still need a short term solution | 16:52 |
| jog0 | cutting icehouse with nova being 10k lines out of sync | 16:53 |
| jog0 | that is just crazy | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | jog0: I'm open to suggestions. I really am. But I have so far been unable to convince the nova team to take patches from the incubator, and so I've been investing my time on fixing the underlying issue. | 16:53 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: I am happy to take patches as a short term solution | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | we have several nova cores who are also oslo cores and we're unable to land patches, so I don't think that's actually a solution | 16:54 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: nova has 500 outstanding patches, it takes time these days | 16:54 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: so lets just say thats not a viable short term solution, what is? | 16:54 |
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| jog0 | we need one | 16:54 |
| dhellmann | if we can't land patches and we can't move to libraries, what do we have? | 16:54 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: make a list of the oslo patches in nova, I will review them all today | 16:55 |
| dhellmann | jog0: I don't have a list, I don't track adoption like that | 16:55 |
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| dhellmann | but look at oslo.messaging adoption, and look at the complaints every time a sync patch is proposed | 16:55 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: because patches were massive | 16:56 |
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| jog0 | and originally oslo-incubator was trusted, but one broken patch and you loose taht trust | 16:56 |
| dhellmann | was there a broken patch? | 16:56 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: off the top of my head I can't think of them but I have seen a few, syncs that were bad | 16:56 |
| jog0 | where bad means race conditions that sneak past gate | 16:57 |
| dhellmann | and the unit tests and the gate tests didn't catch them? | 16:57 |
| dhellmann | ah | 16:57 |
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| dhellmann | well, bnemec has our tests running in parallel now so that should help some with race conditions | 16:57 |
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| dkranz | jog0: Is there a reason the cli tests call nova-manage? Shouldn't testing of that be in nova unit tests? | 16:59 |
| dkranz | jog0: There is no reason to thing nova-manage will be available on a machine running tempest. | 16:59 |
| dkranz | jog0: think | 16:59 |
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| dkranz | jog0: I would prefer to remove them but could add another cli flag. | 17:00 |
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| jog0 | dkranz: no reason, yes probably should be in nova unit tests | 17:00 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: and thats good | 17:00 |
| dkranz | jog0: You ok with me removing them from tempest? | 17:00 |
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| jog0 | dkranz: without a replacelemnt somewhere, no | 17:00 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: so thats great progress, but we still have an issue | 17:01 |
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| jog0 | I am also concerend about leaving incubator around long term if we don't have a solution for it | 17:03 |
| guitarzan | ewindisch: ha! I found another cinder zmq thing... :( | 17:04 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: I'm considering a policy that says code has to move out of the incubator to a library within 2 release cycles. | 17:04 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: I'm not convinced an artificial deadline like that is a good idea, though. | 17:04 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: thats something, and better then othing | 17:05 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: and this is all just me talking, I haven't discussed it with the oslo team | 17:05 |
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| danpb | dhellmann: we certainly need todo something to help get out of the copy+paste game | 17:05 |
| jog0 | danpb: but until we can get out of the copy+paste game we need to make it better | 17:05 |
| danpb | i think that 2 release cycles really ought to be enough to firm up a sane API | 17:06 |
| danpb | at least now we've got the really hairy stuff like oslo messaging split out | 17:06 |
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| danpb | if we let stuff lie in oslo incubator indefinitely there's little motivation for anyone todo the work to turn it into a library | 17:07 |
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| jog0 | danpb: so I agree with that, but that doesn't answer my main issue | 17:08 |
| jog0 | which is nothing is near in sync with inucbator today | 17:08 |
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| jog0 | cinder is 4k off | 17:08 |
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| jog0 | others, even more | 17:08 |
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| danpb | jog0: yep that's really a direct result of the copy+paste approach imho | 17:09 |
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| jog0 | danpb: agreed, but moving off copy+paste is not a immediate fix | 17:09 |
| danpb | jog0: you could say something like every official openstacak product *must* be 100% synced with olso-incubator as a release blocker for each milestone | 17:09 |
| jog0 | danpb: sure, but how do we make that possible | 17:10 |
| jog0 | if you try an oslo-incubator sync to any project today I bet it won't work | 17:10 |
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| jog0 | a full sync | 17:10 |
| danpb | well the release co-ordinator has to mandate it first | 17:10 |
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| jog0 | of over 1k lines | 17:11 |
| danpb | then its upto the core teams of each project to deal with the fallout to make it happen | 17:11 |
| jog0 | danpb: but if the issue is in oslo? | 17:11 |
| jog0 | which it sometimes is | 17:11 |
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| danpb | well obviously we'd have to fix bugs we hit in the process | 17:11 |
| danpb | i think it'd likely be painful to start off with | 17:12 |
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| danpb | but once people get into the habit of syncing oslo frequently the pain would die down | 17:12 |
| jog0 | danpb: so moving the burdon to !oslo core teams is a bad idea, they don't know the changes that happened in oslo, the oslo team does | 17:12 |
| jog0 | its a two way street | 17:12 |
| jog0 | danpb: agreed | 17:13 |
| danpb | jog0: yep it'd certainly have to be a joint effort | 17:13 |
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| jog0 | danpb: also at any given time we have several oslo sync patches in flight in nova | 17:13 |
| danpb | but the individual projects should be doing most of the work here | 17:13 |
| jog0 | none of which are coordinated | 17:13 |
| jog0 | danpb: define work? | 17:13 |
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| danpb | jog0: syncing the olso to their project | 17:13 |
| jog0 | running update.sh? | 17:14 |
| danpb | i'd only expect oslo team todo work if bugs in olso were found | 17:14 |
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| danpb | jog0: yep | 17:14 |
| jog0 | so that isn't really any meaningful amount of work, its trivial | 17:14 |
| jog0 | thats not where the burdon is | 17:14 |
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| jog0 | danpb: as an exercise try doing a full sync patch to cinder | 17:14 |
| jog0 | see if it passes tests | 17:14 |
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| jog0 | I'll be very shocked if it does | 17:15 |
| jog0 | and go through the failures and figure out what they are | 17:15 |
| danpb | sure, you have to deal with that fallout too | 17:15 |
| danpb | the longer you wait between syncs the worse than pain is | 17:15 |
| ewindisch | guitarzan: not too surprised. File a bug and make sure that pmatthews and geekinutah know. | 17:15 |
| jog0 | danpb: so yes !core teams have to help, but the burdon should also be on oslo | 17:16 |
| danpb | the more often you can sync, and the fewer patches at a time, the less the burden would be imho | 17:16 |
| jog0 | err !osl ocore | 17:16 |
| jog0 | danpb: sounds like a good effort for oslo to spear head | 17:16 |
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| jog0 | if you want i can do the trivial action of 'update.sh' and just yell at oslo until you fix things | 17:17 |
| jog0 | but I think there are better ways | 17:17 |
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| jog0 | danpb: https://review.openstack.org/74786 | 17:21 |
| jog0 | I picked cinder because I already know some of the nova issues | 17:21 |
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| jog0 | lets see how bad that fails tests | 17:21 |
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| jog0 | danpb: if oslo core spearheads the effort to get code in sync, and then we add a jenkins job to do periodic syncs later | 17:22 |
| jog0 | when deltas are small | 17:22 |
| jog0 | that should get us into a good position | 17:23 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: ^ | 17:24 |
| lbragstad | bnemec: ping? | 17:25 |
| danpb | jog0: imho project devs should take the task of getting their respective projects fully updated and dealing with any fallout | 17:25 |
| jog0 | danpb: they rarely are the best people to deal with the fallout | 17:26 |
| bnemec | lbragstad: pong | 17:26 |
| danpb | because that distributes the workload much more widely and the project devs are most knowledgable about their own codebase | 17:26 |
| jog0 | also there is no good way to generate the patch commit msgs | 17:26 |
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| jog0 | danpb: lets use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74786/ as an exercise | 17:27 |
| danpb | jog0: preferrably there'd be a 1-1 match between oslo changes and synced changes IMHO, then you don't need to invent new commit messags | 17:27 |
| jog0 | danpb: that works for me, some jenkins tooling can make that trivial | 17:27 |
| danpb | and it would also make it clear which precise oslo change causes any test failures | 17:28 |
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| lbragstad | bnemec: in Keystone we're trying to refactor out the oslo-incubator/openstack/common/notifier and rpc modules since we've moved over to oslo.messaging | 17:28 |
| danpb | rather than you having to a play a guessing game of which 1000 oslo changes in this giant patch caused the problem | 17:28 |
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| bnemec | We'll never get reviewers on other projects to sign off on 1:1 Oslo syncs. | 17:28 |
| lbragstad | there is one import left on notifier: https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/log_handler.py#L19 | 17:29 |
| lbragstad | bnemec: failed here: https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/log_handler.py#L19 | 17:29 |
| jog0 | bnemec: why not? | 17:29 |
| danpb | bnemec: as a nova reviewer, i'd far prefer to see 1:1 oslo syncs | 17:29 |
| lbragstad | sorry wrong link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73900/ | 17:29 |
| jog0 | danpb: agreed | 17:29 |
| danpb | it makes it much easier to identify what causes any failures | 17:29 |
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| jog0 | and the patches would be much easier to review | 17:30 |
| jog0 | and would become trusted again | 17:30 |
| bnemec | jog0: danpb: Even assuming every oslo change was trivial, which is not true, trivial patches in Nova take weeks to get through already. | 17:30 |
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| bnemec | The increase in review load would be significant. | 17:30 |
| jog0 | bnemec: so things may get backed up occasionally thats ok | 17:30 |
| danpb | bnemec: sure, but giant oslo merge patches are worse | 17:30 |
| danpb | if i can quickly see that an oslo patch matches the original oslo-incubator changed line-for-line its a trivial approval | 17:31 |
| jog0 | bnemec: we (I) can prioritize the oslo syncs as needed | 17:31 |
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| jog0 | danpb: yup | 17:31 |
| jog0 | giant ones make me scared | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | guys, please -- making it easier to copy code around is solving the wrong problem | 17:31 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: I disagree | 17:31 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: yes your are correct in that statement | 17:32 |
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| jog0 | but the problem I want to solve is: | 17:32 |
| danpb | dhellmann: oh i completely agree that copying code is awful hence my message earlier than we should do much more to encourage moving stuff out of incubator | 17:32 |
| jog0 | get icehouse oslo code in sync | 17:32 |
| danpb | dhellmann: but unless we kill the concept of incubator entirely, copying code will always remain be there to some degreee | 17:32 |
| jog0 | danpb: ++ | 17:32 |
| jog0 | although I vote kill alltogether | 17:33 |
| jog0 | and have a oslo incubator lib | 17:33 |
| danpb | that'd probably be my vote too | 17:33 |
| dhellmann | danpb: only until a library stabilizes, at which point it should move it its own repo and be used as a library | 17:33 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: that defeats the purpose, since it means there's no way to change the API of a module in a breaking way | 17:33 |
| danpb | imho we've been worrying soo much about waiting for the library to stabalize we've created something even worse | 17:33 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: it does defeate the purpose, but the current thing is broken | 17:34 |
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| jog0 | I think the purpos is bad | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | the "thing" isn't broken, our use of it is | 17:34 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: same difference | 17:34 |
| danpb | i'd say everything should just go straight into its own library module | 17:34 |
| lbragstad | bnemec: only wondering if it would be alright to change that import in log_handler.py to use oslo.messaging? so we can remove all the notifier/rpc code in oslo-incubator we don't use anymore? | 17:34 |
| danpb | if those modules need to break their apis periodically, in their early days, so be it | 17:34 |
| jog0 | danpb: yup | 17:35 |
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| dhellmann | danpb: that will be challenging with symmetric gating | 17:35 |
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| danpb | IMHO it'd be less pain on balance than we have now | 17:35 |
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| dhellmann | not saying it's impossible, just harder | 17:35 |
| jog0 | http://semver.org/ | 17:35 |
| dhellmann | jog0: that's not how devstack gate works, you know that | 17:35 |
| bnemec | lbragstad: I'm inclined to think that Handler should move to oslo.messaging, or wherever the rest of the notifier code went. | 17:36 |
| dhellmann | bnemec, lbragstad : yes, that's on the graduation plan, I think | 17:36 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec, lbragstad : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/GraduationStatus#log_handler | 17:36 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: true,but some 'if version=x: foo else: bar' logic can help | 17:36 |
| dhellmann | jog0: we'll see how it goes with oslo.db | 17:37 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: I'm not a big fan of that one, I really dislike sqlA | 17:37 |
| jog0 | but that is neither here nor there | 17:37 |
| dhellmann | jog0: well, if we move off of sqla, the place to do it will be in oslo.db where it can happen one time | 17:38 |
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| jog0 | anyway the issue I want to see fixed as I said before is: have mostly up to date oslo-incubator code used in icehouse | 17:38 |
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| jog0 | to see how hard it is to get a full sync passing I propsed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74786/ | 17:39 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: I'm watching that with interest | 17:39 |
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| lbragstad | dhellmann: bnemec ok good to know, so I should hold of until that happens and then just resync keystone.openstack.common.log/handler | 17:53 |
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| dhellmann | lbragstad: or you could propose a patch to oslo.messaging to add that handler module :-) | 17:53 |
| lbragstad | dhellmann: ok, yep | 17:54 |
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| lbragstad | dhellmann: just wanted to double check that was the right way to fix. | 17:54 |
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| dhellmann | lbragstad: yeah, the handler will need to be ported and then used instead of the version in the incubator | 17:56 |
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| lbragstad | dhellmann: perfect, thanks! | 17:57 |
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| bnemec | lbragstad: Are you going to propose the change or should I? I have multiple vested interests in getting everyone to oslo.messaging too, so I would like to get this done ASAP. :-) | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | bnemec: either works. if you have one ready to go, go for it. If not I can work on getting one up EO | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | EOD* | 18:01 |
| bnemec | lbragstad: I don't have one yet, but I have some free time while I wait for images to build so I'll take care of it. | 18:02 |
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| lbragstad | bnemec: cool, you're more than welcome to add me to the review | 18:03 |
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| bnemec | lbragstad: Was planning to anyway. ;-) | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | perfect! | 18:03 |
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| andersonvom | hey folks, how can I get the tests on api-site to pass? They fail when I run tox on master. | 18:05 |
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| andersonvom | nevermind, after manually updating my dependencies in each tox environment it worked. I would have thought tox does that on its own | 18:15 |
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| bnemec | andersonvom: Sadly, no. You can tell tox to rebuild its environments with -r, but that rebuilds everything so it can take a while. | 18:17 |
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| guitarzan | pmathews1: ping | 20:00 |
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| pmathews1 | guitarzan: pong | 20:03 |
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| guitarzan | pmathews1: so, I'm back to zmq | 20:03 |
| guitarzan | pmathews1: does this look broken to you? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36794/ | 20:04 |
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| guitarzan | pmathews1: it seems to break the split on dots code | 20:04 |
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| pmathews1 | guitarzan: ouch. Yeah, this would definately cause some breakage. | 20:07 |
| guitarzan | pmathews1: I have a feeling the zmq just won't work with cinder's multiple backends (as is) but this seems to completely break it | 20:08 |
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| guitarzan | even without multiple backends | 20:08 |
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| guitarzan | pmathews1: ipc:///var/run/openstack/zmq_topic_cinder-volume:10.10.127.0.163 <-- tipped me off | 20:09 |
| pmathews1 | yes, it would completely break it. It splits on '.', but that was never updated beyond making the change | 20:09 |
| guitarzan | roll back a few lines of that patch and it at least seems to work now | 20:09 |
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| guitarzan | pmathews1: can devstack be ran with zmq? | 20:10 |
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| pmathews1 | guitarzan: Not yet, but I'm working on it. | 20:12 |
| guitarzan | pmathews1: ok, then I'll give jgriffith a hard time about that patch :) | 20:13 |
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| guitarzan | this will end up signing me up for making it work with multiple backends | 20:13 |
| guitarzan | :P | 20:13 |
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| pmathews1 | I've got some code that will do that (we're actually doing it); I'm not sure if it'll be accepted at this point though. I probably need to talk to some people and figure out how we want to support that. | 20:15 |
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| guitarzan | pmathews1: I was just going to ask if anyone actually uses it if it's totally broken in havana | 20:17 |
| guitarzan | pmathews1: do you also have the timeout fd issue fixed? | 20:18 |
| guitarzan | I'm working locally with that patch and this : -> . thing fixed | 20:18 |
| guitarzan | seems to "work" | 20:18 |
| pmathews1 | guitarzan: Yeah, there's a patch in review I think I sent you; I just need to revive it and get it in | 20:19 |
| guitarzan | there's this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33881/11 | 20:19 |
| guitarzan | ok cool | 20:19 |
| pmathews1 | that's the one | 20:19 |
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| guitarzan | well, I'll totally +1 zmq patches now that I know I can set it up | 20:21 |
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| pmathews1 | guitarzan: hopefully later today I'll find some time to fix zmq in devstack. That was my first priority; but there's a couple more things (like the two mentioned) that are pretty critical | 20:24 |
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| banix | Have a question on oslo and glance; Glance does not start due to: ImportError: No module named config when glance-manage is called to create the db in stack.sh (devstack) | 20:25 |
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| dhellmann | banix: is that in a virtualenv? | 20:26 |
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| dhellmann | banix: or I should say, are you using a virtualenv too? | 20:27 |
| banix | dhellmann: no | 20:27 |
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| banix | this is debstack install | 20:27 |
| dhellmann | banix: do you have oslo.sphinx installed? | 20:27 |
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| dhellmann | banix: and do you have oslo.config installed? | 20:28 |
| banix | Let me check; Just want to add that nova for example does not have this problem and can import | 20:28 |
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| banix | dhellmann: Yes, I can issue nova-manage and that imports the same module; so not sure what is happening; anything specific to Glance? | 20:29 |
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| dhellmann | banix: do you have a traceback? maybe it's not the oslo.config module that's failing | 20:29 |
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| banix | I have the stack.sh.log that i can share; Don't know if this will be valuable or not but if I do a $ /usr/local/bin/glance-manage | 20:31 |
| banix | I get: Traceback (most recent call last): | 20:31 |
| banix | File "/usr/local/bin/glance-manage", line 6, in <module> | 20:31 |
| banix | from glance.cmd.manage import main | 20:31 |
| banix | File "/openstack/a1/stack/glance/glance/cmd/manage.py", line 46, in <module> | 20:31 |
| banix | from oslo.config import cfg | 20:31 |
| banix | ImportError: No module named config | 20:31 |
| dhellmann | banix: if you run "pip freeze | grep oslo" which packages do you get? | 20:32 |
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| banix | Warning: cannot find svn location for distribute==0.6.24dev-r0 | 20:33 |
| banix | -e git://git.openstack.org/openstack/oslo.config.git@4c5c1ea002cf381f5cbe63483dd7cd8817a3a7d9#egg=oslo.config-master | 20:33 |
| banix | -e git://git.openstack.org/openstack/oslo.messaging.git@e785a5d994456bde3dec3843798cc65d411eb103#egg=oslo.messaging-master | 20:33 |
| banix | -e git://git.openstack.org/openstack/oslo.rootwrap.git@42255ccae8f96a906547a20a62eeea6eb4ddb855#egg=oslo.rootwrap-master | 20:33 |
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| dhellmann | banix: how about "which nova" and "which glance" | 20:34 |
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| banix | dhellmann: please see below: | 20:35 |
| banix | jenkins@x240gr2n11:~/workspace/files$ which glance | 20:35 |
| banix | jenkins@x240gr2n11:~/workspace/files$ which nova | 20:35 |
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| banix | $ which glance | 20:35 |
| banix | /usr/local/bin/glance | 20:36 |
| banix | $ which nova | 20:36 |
| banix | /usr/local/bin/nova | 20:36 |
| dhellmann | banix: sorry, you said the nova-manage command worked but not the glance service, I was thinking both clients | 20:36 |
| banix | sure: | 20:36 |
| banix | /usr/local/bin/nova-manage | 20:37 |
| banix | /usr/local/bin/glance-manage | 20:37 |
| dhellmann | banix: ok, I'm stumped. You have everything installed from devstack, you don't have the package that has been causing this issue for others, and all the commands seem to be installed in the same place so they aren't using different pythons | 20:38 |
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| banix | dhellmann: yeah I have been going round and round; I see both nova-manage and glance manage are essentially identical (except for /nova/glance/) and the cmd/manage.py under nova and glance use the same import | 20:40 |
| dhellmann | banix: is this a fresh installation? | 20:41 |
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| banix | dhellmann: I know this may of no value, but just in case it may give you a hint; iI noticed the problem after I ran out of disk space and tried stack.sh. | 20:43 |
| dhellmann | banix: ok, well, running out of disk space is liable to cause all sorts of weirdness | 20:43 |
| dhellmann | banix: I suggest "unstack.sh" and then clean up space and try again | 20:43 |
| banix | this is installation on an ubuntu bare metal; each time i bring in the latest from devstack and install; have been doing this of a couple of weeks for our 3rd party testing. | 20:44 |
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| banix | dhellmann: when you say cleanup space? any thing in particular? I have enough space and have been doing unstack before using stack.sh | 20:44 |
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| dhellmann | banix: well, you said you ran out of space, so... | 20:45 |
| banix | I mean I have removed the logs causing the problem so I do not have that problem now but wondering if something got corrupted (written incompletely); just wondering | 20:45 |
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| dhellmann | banix: quite likely | 20:45 |
| banix | do i need to uninstall anything? | 20:45 |
| banix | beyond unstack.sh | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | banix: if you run unstack and then stack it should reinstall our packages | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | however, if it had to check out source code and there wasn't space to do that, the source may be corrupted somehow | 20:46 |
| banix | I have tried several times after the cleanup | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | was everything working before you ran out of space? | 20:47 |
| banix | What i have mentioned here are from clean installs with plenty of space; I do not have that problem now but not being able to think of anything else, i am wondering if there is something not uninstalled by unstack that remains …. the weird part is that this is with Glance only | 20:48 |
| banix | yes everything was working fine for several weeks | 20:48 |
| banix | repeatedly installing and running tempest tests, reporting back, etc | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | ok, you've done everything I would suggest, so if there's something not being cleaned up I'm not sure what's going on | 20:49 |
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| banix | dhellmann: thanks for your help | 20:50 |
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| dhellmann | banix: sorry it wasn't more fruitful | 20:50 |
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| banix | dhellmann: np; will continue banging my head :) thanks again. | 20:51 |
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| dhellmann | banix: if you figure it out (and don't just reinstall everything), please let me know what you find -- we have had similar issues with the oslo namespace package and if we need to move away from that technology I'd like to do it before we have too many more libraries using it | 20:52 |
| banix | dhellmann: Sure. Will do. | 20:53 |
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| banix | dhellmann: in stack.sh.log I noticed this: Skipping installation of /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo/__init__.py (namespace package) followed by "Successfully installed oslo.config" | 21:03 |
| banix | so i created the __init__.py file and now I do not get the import error anymore | 21:03 |
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| banix | dhellmann: In stack.sh, right after installing oslo.config in the above location, I see an uninstall leading to "Successfully uninstalled oslo.config" and then the installation of oslo.config in my /opt/stack directory. | 21:10 |
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| dhellmann | banix: python namespace packages shouldn't have an __init__.py | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | banix: what else do you have in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo? | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | it *seems* like you have an editable version of oslo.config and a non-editable version both installed | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure how that could have happened, though | 21:12 |
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| banix | only a "messaging" directory | 21:13 |
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| dhellmann | banix: ok, so that directory contains __init__.py, config, and messaging? | 21:14 |
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| zzelle_ | dhellman what do you mean by "editable version" ? a version installed with python setup.py develop ? | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | zzelle_: yeah, or "pip install -e" | 21:14 |
| banix | dhellmann: no it just hard messaging and i addedd manually the __init__ file | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | I think devstack uses the latter now | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | banix: so where is the oslo.config package? | 21:15 |
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| dhellmann | oh, hmm, maybe that's misleading | 21:15 |
| zzelle_ | dhellmann, banix, you can check your python path | 21:15 |
| banix | it gets installed in /opt/stack/ | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | banix: do you have any .egg-link directories in dist-packages? | 21:15 |
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| dhellmann | sorry, .egg-link files | 21:16 |
| zzelle_ | python -c 'import sys, print sys.path' | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | banix: the source is in /opt/stack, but where is it being imported from? | 21:16 |
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| banix | dhellman: no .egg-link files | 21:18 |
| banix | ['', '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pip-1.4.1-py2.7.egg', '/openstack/a1/stack/pbr', '/openstack/a1/stack/cliff', '/openstack/a1/stack/oslo.config', '/openstack/a1/stack/oslo.messaging', '/openstack/a1/stack/oslo.rootwrap', '/openstack/a1/stack/pycadf', '/openstack/a1/stack/stevedore', '/openstack/a1/stack/taskflow', '/openstack/a1/stack/python-keystoneclient', '/openstack/a1/stack/python-glanceclient', | 21:18 |
| banix | '/openstack/a1/stack/python-cinderclient', '/openstack/a1/stack/python-novaclient', '/openstack/a1/stack/python-neutronclient', '/openstack/a1/stack/python-heatclient', '/openstack/a1/stack/python-openstackclient', '/openstack/a1/stack/keystone', '/openstack/a1/stack/glance', '/openstack/a1/stack/cinder', '/openstack/a1/stack/neutron', '/openstack/a1/stack/nova', '/openstack/a1/stack/horizon', '/usr/lib/python2.7', | 21:18 |
| banix | '/usr/lib/python2.7/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-old', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/PIL', '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7'] | 21:18 |
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| banix | above from sys.path | 21:18 |
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| dhellmann | banix: I wonder why you have a copy of oslo.messaging installed in dist-packages, when nothing else is? | 21:19 |
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| banix | $ ls /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/*egg* | grep oslo | 21:20 |
| banix | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.config.egg-link | 21:20 |
| banix | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.messaging.egg-link | 21:20 |
| banix | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.rootwrap.egg-link | 21:20 |
| banix | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.messaging-1.3.0a7.egg-info: | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | banix: there you go | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | you have an oslo.messaging.egg-link and the egg-info | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | my guess is if you remove /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.messaging-1.3.0a7.egg-info and the oslo directory then the import will work | 21:21 |
| banix | dhellmann: let me try | 21:21 |
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| banix | dhellman: after removing those directories I get the import error again | 21:23 |
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| dhellmann | banix: if you run "python -c 'from oslo import messaging; print messaging'" what do you get? | 21:24 |
| dhellmann | run the same replacing "messaging" with "rootwrap" | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | and then the same again, with config | 21:26 |
| banix | Traceback (most recent call last): | 21:26 |
| banix | File "<string>", line 1, in <module> | 21:26 |
| banix | ImportError: cannot import name messaging | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | ugh | 21:26 |
| banix | the same for root wrap and config | 21:26 |
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| dhellmann | how about: ls -d /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/*oslo* | 21:27 |
| zzelle_ | perhaps we can try to import oslo ? | 21:27 |
| dhellmann | zzelle_: there shouldn't be anything to import with that name | 21:27 |
| banix | $ ls -d /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/*oslo* | 21:27 |
| banix | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.config.egg-link | 21:27 |
| banix | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.messaging-1.3.0a7-nspkg.pth | 21:27 |
| banix | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.messaging.egg-link | 21:27 |
| zzelle_ | i know | 21:27 |
| banix | /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.rootwrap.egg-link | 21:27 |
| dhellmann | hmm, well maybe you get a fake package | 21:28 |
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| dhellmann | banix: remove /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo.messaging-1.3.0a7-nspkg.pth and try again | 21:28 |
| zzelle_ | perhaps oslo is resolved as a package (locally ?) | 21:28 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: oh, possibly | 21:28 |
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| dhellmann | banix: what directory are you in when you run these commands? | 21:29 |
| banix | removed; $ python -c 'from oslo import config; print config' | 21:29 |
| banix | <module 'oslo.config' from '/openstack/a1/stack/oslo.config/oslo/config/__init__.pyc'> | 21:29 |
| banix | now i don't get the error | 21:29 |
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| zzelle_ | dhellmann, if i am right you are contributing to oslo ? | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | banix: ok, so you had 2 copies of oslo.messaging installed, one as an actual package and one as a link to the source tree | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | zzelle_: yes, I'm the oslo ptl for this cycle | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | banix: I'm not sure how you got into that state, but that should give you some clues for reading the devstack logs | 21:30 |
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| zzelle_ | normally devstack oslo.messaging should hide system one ... | 21:31 |
| banix | dhellmann: sure; If of any value, I can send the stack.sh.log to you. So you expect this has resolved the issue: meaning if i unstack; then stack, the problem may be gone | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | there shouldn't be a system package installed | 21:32 |
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| dhellmann | banix: I hope so, but if the extra package was introduced by devstack then re-running it will install it again | 21:32 |
| zzelle_ | th system one os not linked to devstack install | 21:32 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: I'm not sure what you mean? | 21:32 |
| dhellmann | banix: can you put the log output somewhere for me to download? | 21:33 |
| zzelle_ | system oslo.messaging has not been installed by devstack | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | zzelle_: how did it get there? | 21:33 |
| banix | dhellmann: Wonder why devstack would introduce those packages... | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | banix: it may have come in as a dependency of something else that was being installed | 21:33 |
| banix | shepherd? | 21:34 |
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| zzelle_ | through a package install | 21:34 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: is there an operating system package for oslo.messaging already? what installed that? | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | banix: shepherd? | 21:35 |
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| banix | I installed shepherd at some point…. using apt-get…. | 21:35 |
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| dhellmann | banix: I don't know what that is, is that an openstack project? | 21:36 |
| zzelle_ | https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing-bot/+ppa-packages | 21:36 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: nice | 21:36 |
| banix | no Sorry guys | 21:37 |
| banix | i was close but not quite right :) sheepdog | 21:37 |
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| dhellmann | banix: ok, I didn't know that either, but it looks like it's related to storage? | 21:38 |
| zzelle_ | i already got the same trouble with an other oslo package ... after using devstack on a server with a keystone (?) installed by packages | 21:38 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: ah | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | yeah, you shouldn't use devstack on a box with system packages for our libs | 21:38 |
| banix | I will try to reinstall and see how it goes | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | banix: the instructions I gave you to remove things were removing files installed by that system package, so you probably want to remove the package to make sure the apt history is clean | 21:38 |
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| banix | do you know which package? | 21:39 |
| dhellmann | banix: probably oslo.messaging, but I'm not sure | 21:40 |
| zzelle_ | apt-get remove oslo.messaging | 21:40 |
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| zzelle_ | i will give others packages depending on it and norammly the "source" package of your troubles | 21:40 |
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| banix | ok; it says: E: Unable to locate package oslo.messaging | 21:41 |
| zzelle_ | huhum | 21:41 |
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| zzelle_ | dhellmann, i see multiples projects using json to store complex data in database as string | 21:43 |
| zzelle_ | dhellmann, , would it make sense to provide a sqlalchemy column type for doing such wrapping/unwrapping ? | 21:43 |
| banix | dhellmann, zzelle: Thanks for your help. | 21:44 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle: I think we'd rather projects use proper schemas, but if we can't then it would make sense to provide a json column type if we don't already have one | 21:52 |
| dhellmann | banix: I'm glad you got it worked out! | 21:52 |
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| banix | dhellmann: Thanks again; the new install has gone through without any problems. | 21:55 |
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| dhellmann | banix: good! | 21:59 |
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| zzelle_ | dhellmann, perhaps i miss it, i see multiples projects using json to store complex data in database as string | 22:00 |
| zzelle_ | would it make sense to provide a sqlalchemy column type for doing such wrapping/unwrapping ? | 22:00 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: if we have that pattern repeated, and cannot eliminate it, then yes | 22:00 |
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| zzelle_ | it is used by keystone/nova and neutron (at least) | 22:01 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: you could submit a blueprint to oslo, and we could look into adding a column type to oslo.db after it graduates from the incubator | 22:05 |
| dhellmann | during the next release cycle | 22:05 |
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| zzelle_ | dhellmann, fine for me | 22:05 |
| dhellmann | zzelle_: http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_9/core/types.html#marshal-json-strings | 22:06 |
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| zzelle_ | zzelle, it is exactly what you want to propose | 22:07 |
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| zzelle_ | am i speaking to myself | 22:08 |
| zzelle_ | ? | 22:08 |
| zzelle_ | dhellmann, it is exactly what you want to propose | 22:08 |
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| zzelle_ | argh, ... what i want ... | 22:08 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 22:08 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: I don't know if that example is just in the docs, or if it is already available for use in sqlalchemy | 22:09 |
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| zzelle_ | dhellmann, it is an example (at least in 0.7) | 22:09 |
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| dhellmann | zzelle_: ok | 22:10 |
| zzelle_ | in fact it already in sqlachemy ... in sqlalchemy.ext.mutable | 22:10 |
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| morganfainberg | it's kinda quiet in here | 23:10 |
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| simo | morganfainberg: didn't you get the memo? openstack is all done, polished and finished :- | 23:15 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74786/ finished | 23:17 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: note boris-42_'s comment | 23:18 |
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| ayoung | simo, its cuz the keystone folkses have all moved to openstack-keystone | 23:18 |
| morganfainberg | simo, oh good to know, i'll tell my boss as well | 23:18 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, ^ see did we not get on the mailing list about Openstack being polished and finished? | 23:19 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: I did, very useful | 23:19 |
| jog0 | but thats not all | 23:19 |
| jog0 | looks like policy issues | 23:19 |
| morganfainberg | simo, oh yeah come join us in #openstack-keystone it'll be a bit noisier ;) | 23:19 |
| jog0 | http://logs.openstack.org/86/74786/1/check/gate-cinder-python27/04ee5df/testr_results.html.gz | 23:19 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: we must have 2 copies of that option definition with different settings | 23:20 |
| dhellmann | I wish that exception reported the first location as well as the second | 23:20 |
| jog0 | values are teh same | 23:21 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: it might work better to sync in batches | 23:21 |
| jog0 | git grep shows its cinder/policy and cinder/openstack/common/policy | 23:21 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: batches of? | 23:22 |
| dhellmann | jog0: everything, including the help text, deprecation, etc. are identical? | 23:22 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: parts of the incubator | 23:22 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: no help is different | 23:22 |
| jog0 | that explains it | 23:22 |
| dhellmann | jog0: yes | 23:22 |
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| dhellmann | that DuplicateOptError could be more informative | 23:23 |
| simo | ayoung: ah I know, just hadn't found the time to type the joinyet | 23:23 |
| simo | morganfainberg: if you insist :) | 23:23 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: yes it can be more informative | 23:23 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: so I splitting up the sync is both good and bad IMHO | 23:23 |
| jog0 | more patches, but each is easier to manage | 23:24 |
| morganfainberg | dims, dhellmann, flaper87|afk, i know we're winding down icehouse, but let me know if you want to talk dogpile based cache in oslo, i would like to move towards that because i think it's a better bet than rolling our own (we get some awesome stuff for free) | 23:24 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: sure, pros and cons: it would let you take steps, but figuring out what those steps are is a bit of a pain | 23:24 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: I think for the first wave of big patches to get things not to far out of date yes, break up si good | 23:24 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: yeah the interdependenies make it tricky | 23:24 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg, dims, flaper87|afk: it's nearing the end of the day here, maybe an email thread? | 23:24 |
| morganfainberg | dims, dhellmann, flaper87|afk, but I know we're all busy, just don't want to hold people up if there is legitimate interest (i'll clear some weekend time to move on it). Have an initial pass/review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72291/ | 23:25 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, sure. i'll toss it out to -dev ML | 23:25 |
| dhellmann | jog0: yeah, for day-to-day we'd not want to split them, I'm just talking about this big sync push | 23:25 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: so assuming 'we want projects to relese with up to date oslo-incubator' I would like to propose using nova as a test case | 23:25 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, there isn't a rush, just think we should be careful about rolling our own systems if we already have a lib in requirements that does part (or all) of the task | 23:25 |
| jog0 | I can talk to other cores about it tomorrow and spear head it | 23:25 |
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| jog0 | and once we aren't far behind doing a regular sync should be easier | 23:26 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i'll send something tonight/tomorrow about it. :) | 23:26 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: I'll definitely help | 23:26 |
| jog0 | I think having one team doing syncs in a given project will make life easier | 23:26 |
| jog0 | as in right now in nova people sync things in ad-hoc | 23:27 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: +1 to using established tools first, I think flaper87|afk didn't know about dogpile when he started designing the cache api (I didn't) | 23:27 |
| jog0 | which leads to confusion and more patches | 23:27 |
| dhellmann | jog0: what if we have a designated sync person for each project? | 23:27 |
| dhellmann | I like that | 23:27 |
| dhellmann | person/team | 23:27 |
| jog0 | yeah | 23:27 |
| jog0 | I can live wit hthat | 23:27 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, absolutely, and i talked to him before I did the initial pass work to make sure there wasn't a good reason for it being different | 23:27 |
| jog0 | and they can ask oslo core for help as needed | 23:27 |
| dhellmann | yes, of course | 23:28 |
| jog0 | that need should drop over time | 23:28 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: if we don't need our own wrapper at all, that would be fine, too | 23:28 |
| dhellmann | jog0: right | 23:28 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i think we do need a wrapper, but that is based upon experience integrating it in keystone. | 23:28 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: ok | 23:28 |
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| jog0 | so going with your batch up the big sync I am not sure how to divide that well | 23:28 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, similar to how we wrap sqla | 23:28 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: makes sense | 23:29 |
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| dhellmann | does feel a bit odd to have an extra layer, though -- doesn't dogpile have drivers, too? | 23:29 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg: I haven't read your patch yet, though, so maybe you're removing drivers from the oslo layer? | 23:29 |
| dhellmann | jog0: we would have to look at the dependencies between modules, and start with the bottom | 23:29 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: although it's entirely possible that some modules have to go together because of cross-dependencies | 23:30 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, it does. but it has some limitations and other oddities that i try and work around (adding convienence methods) to try and alieviate those pain points | 23:30 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg: ok, that part makes sense | 23:30 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: I'll look over the patch in the morning | 23:30 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i have been working to correct some things upstream, but it's slow moving | 23:30 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: that will work,it should be interesting | 23:30 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, if you want to see the basis for the work look at keystone.common.cache and keystone.common.kvs | 23:30 |
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| dhellmann | jog0: see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/Dependencies for some details on the dependencies | 23:31 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: noted | 23:31 |
| jog0 | dhellmann: awesome that helps! | 23:32 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, obv. i am trying to make those "streamlined" and what gets into oslo (also, I was thinking if oslo has a decent abstraction, dogpile may not be the only cache lib we use in the future) | 23:32 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, anyway i'll cover it on the ML tonight/tomorrow. thanks | 23:32 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg: sounds good, thanks! | 23:32 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: so policy.enforice is gone or something | 23:37 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: that changed on Mon Apr 29 16:58:23 | 23:39 |
| jog0 | almost a year ago | 23:39 |
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| jog0 | dhellmann: and that change was by a oslo core, someone who should know about syncing code out | 23:43 |
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