Wednesday, 2014-03-05

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ancihi i am new to OpenStack and have a q00:42
ekarlsoanci: shoot please!00:43
ancii registered with a specific name and email address as a contributor but want to change name and email address... can someone give me pointers00:43
ekarlsooh, that's a good one00:43
clarkbanci: where did you register? on gerrit (review.openstack.org)?00:44
clarkbanci: if so you can update those values at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact00:44
anciok... will try00:44
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ancithanks00:45
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ancihi i tried to update the profile info on review.openstack.org as you suggested... but the save changes button is grayed out... so not able to change the info?00:57
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clarkbfungi: ^00:58
clarkbanci: I think you should be able to00:58
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clarkbI know I chagned my email address at one point00:59
clarkbanci: you may need to fill out all of the fields to change one of them00:59
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ancik... will give it a try01:05
fungianci: if you're adding e-mail addresses, you need the register new email button01:06
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fungianci: the save changes button is for the other contact information fields lower down the page (mailing address, country, phone number, fax number)01:06
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anciwell i want to change my primary email address to new one01:07
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fungianci: for that, i think you either select the address you want in the preferred email drop-down list, or if it's not there yet then select "... register new email ..." at the end of the list and then use the "register new email ..." button to the right of it01:08
fungipoorly-designed interface, i agree01:08
fungithe email registration feature will send a confirmation message to that address containing a hyperlink you'll have to follow or paste into a browser to validate the address successfully before you'll be able to select it01:09
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anciok... thanks for the info01:10
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sphoortihello folks, I cloned the devstack repo and ran the stack.sh script. The script worked and i got the ip address and password. But the localrc file seems to be missing. When I tried to run the script again I was prompted for passwords . What possibly could be going wrong ?03:02
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tjonesit's changed to local.conf (i think)03:07
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sphoortitjones: i actually wanted to enable neutron service03:08
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sphoortiso I am now unsure how to do it03:08
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sphoortiI do see local.conf in samples folder03:09
tjonessphoorti: so what i do is copy the sample up and make edits to it.  im unsure how to switch from nova-network to neutron though - i suspect a quick google search would help03:11
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sphoortitjones: thank you :) I will try that. I know the neutron settings. Hope it works03:22
tjonessphoorti: good luck ;-)03:23
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ttxstevebaker: still around ?06:49
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stevebakerttx: hi07:00
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ttxstevebaker: trying to see which ones are in transit and which ones are not07:01
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ttxof the remaining 607:01
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stevebakerttx: These are in the merge pipeline https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/cloud-init-resource https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/as-intermediate-resources07:01
stevebakerttx: the other 4 are ... not07:01
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ttxOK, how about I defer the other 4 to RC1 for FFE consideration ?07:02
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stevebakerttx: yes please07:02
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ttxstevebaker: got time now to go through the FFEs ? Or prefer tomorrow ?07:03
stevebakerttx: I've got 7 minutes07:03
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stevebakerttx: lets do it07:03
ttxstevebaker: ok, let's try07:03
ttxAre they all just needing a couple more days ?07:04
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ttxhttps://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 (for referenceà07:04
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stevebakerttx: I think so, instance-users needs care that it doesn't break tripleo (again ;)07:05
stevebakeroslo-messaging is almost ready07:05
stevebakerhot-software-config is me. *I* think its ready ;)07:05
ttxstevebaker: those are slightly scraier than your usual self-contained, harmless FFEs07:05
ttxscarier07:05
stevebakerinstance-users is scary07:06
ttxespecially the oslo-messaging one07:06
stevebakeroslo-messaging just risks regressions, but we should pick any up quick enough07:06
ttxhot-softwaare-config looks relatively self-contained from the description07:07
* ttx will need to have a look at the patches, but not in those 7 minutes07:07
stevebakerfunction-plugins is really everything-plugins, it has morphed a bit but I don't see any problems07:07
ttxwhy do you need instance-users in ?07:07
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stevebakerttx: so that we can launch stacks without having to be an admin user. Its critical07:08
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ttxstevebaker: ok, I can see that being useful07:08
ttxI just want those to land early enough to let us catch issues with them07:08
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stevebakeryep, I think they will07:09
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ttxstevebaker: do you gain anything to merge oslo-messaging pre-release rather than post-release ? Like any feature you depend on ?07:09
ttxsounds like a cleanup / forward-looking thing that could wait, rather than add a pile of regressions07:10
ttxunless you need one of those features it brings07:10
stevebakerttx: we really wanted oslo-messaging to be in for every project in icehouse (we == Red Hat)07:10
ttxstevebaker: yeah but it ran late, and now I don't want it to impact quality adversely for no feature gain07:11
stevebakerttx: since openstack.common.rpc is no longer really supported, that is a risk07:11
stevebakerttx: sdake_ may be able to provide a compelling reason for oslo-messaging to make it in07:12
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ttxstevebaker: OK will negociate with him07:12
stevebakerttx: anywho, I need to go pickup my daughter07:13
ttxstevebaker: it's just precisely the type of things that I don't like post-FF07:13
ttxbut I guess if it's right around the corner and you spend cycles making sure it doesn't regress07:13
ttxstevebaker: go go go07:13
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cburgessWe did just merge some fixes to oslo-messaging to support clustered Rabbit servers with mirrored queues.07:23
cburgessSo that is a benefit depending on how you deploy rabbit.07:24
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stevebakerttx: back07:31
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ttxstevebaker: yeah, so the two I cringe on would be oslo-messaging (sligthly risky for no obvious release gain) and instance-users (risky).07:33
ttxFor the latter I understand that it's a critical feature, so as long as it  merges really soon I'm fine07:34
ttxFor the former I'd prefer to have some net gain other than the cleanup aspect07:34
stevebakerOK I will let them know07:34
ttxstevebaker: how far are they from landing ?07:34
ttxcouple more days ? or more like a week ?07:35
stevebakerInstance users is ready. Oslo messaging is still getting some tests working and needs a few more reviews07:36
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stevebakerSo maybe a week for the latter07:36
ttxOK, so the only one I'd further discuss would be oslo-messaging. Consider the other 3 ok07:36
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stevebakerOK thanks07:37
ttxstevebaker: I need to check the status of oslo-imessaging integration in other projects07:37
ttxstevebaker: obviously if it's landed in a number of other projects that reduces concerns07:37
stevebakerI think us and neutron may be amongst the last to do it07:38
* ttx gets some breakfast now07:39
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stevebaker0/07:39
sgrancburgess: ooh, link to review?07:39
cburgesslet me find it07:39
cburgesshttps://review.openstack.org/7727607:40
cburgesshttps://review.openstack.org/7668607:40
sgranthanks!07:40
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ttxjd__: around ?09:26
ttxjd__: about to cut I3 branch for ceilometer, wanted to look at FFEs with you09:27
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jd__ttx: yes, I think there's still one patch that was not merge, let me check10:00
ttxjd__: couldn't find anythign in the queue10:01
ttxjd__: should I defer everything open at https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-3, or do you want to FFE some ?10:02
jd__ttx: I just approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75970/ that is the last patch for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/decoupled-source-sink-discoverable-resources10:02
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jd__ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73809/ is also in the queue it seems10:03
ttxjd__: a bit at the bottom of a 13h+ gate though10:03
jd__ttx: you can dever the rest10:03
eglynnttx, jd__: \o/ ;)10:03
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jd__ttx: ok well we can backport it I guess10:03
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ttxjd__: let's see how it empties up. Will FFE it if needed10:04
ttxjd__: i'll wait a bit before I cut10:04
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eglynnttx, jd__: BTW I'm still waiting on a +1 to get this small i3-targeted bugfix over the line https://review.openstack.org/7795910:04
ttxeglynn: that one we can backport to milestone-proposed if ready10:04
eglynnttx, jd__: but should be acceptable as a master->milestone-proposed backport later on today10:04
eglynnttx: ack10:05
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jd__eglynn: I think there might be a point in the -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77959/2 do you plan on addressing it?10:07
eglynnjd__: yep, I'm on it10:07
jd__cool10:07
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gnorthI'm looking to document a new Cinder extension that just got merged.  Can someone explain to me why I see an "Extension" section in http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-block-storage/2.0/content/API_Operations.html but not in the source at https://github.com/openstack/api-site/blob/master/api-ref/src/docbkx/ch_blockstorage-api.xml - am I looking in the wrong place in the source?10:54
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ManishankerHi am trying to install Ironic with devstack using the link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicAndDevstackAgain . I am getting this error "[ERROR] /home/test/devstack/functions-common:596 git call failed: [git clone git://git.openstack.org/openstack/requirements.git /opt/stack/requirements]" Can someone help me on this?11:58
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sdagueManishanker: what happens if you run the failed command on the command line12:09
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sdaguegit clone git://git.openstack.org/openstack/requirements.git /opt/stack/requirement12:09
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Manishankeri could clone if i run git clone https://git.openstack.org/openstack/requirements.git /opt/stack/requirement12:09
Manishankeri cant even ping this url git://git.openstack.org/openstack/requirements.git /opt/stack/requirement12:11
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noorulhello13:02
noorulI am trying to use pbr for in one of my personal repository13:02
nooruls/for//13:02
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noorulI get the error http://paste.openstack.org/show/72591/13:12
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ttxdolphm: ping, re: Keystone I3 status13:53
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dolphmttx: waiting on one bp patch about 5 hours from the front of the queue; happy to backport it to milestone-proposed after it lands13:54
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ttxdolphm: in theory we don't backport features to a MP branch, so if it misses that would mean FFE13:55
ttx(i.e. post-I3)13:55
ttxdolphm: I'm holding the cut until it makes it13:55
dolphmttx: if it fails, then call it a FFE?13:55
ttxobviously if it jumps at the bottom of the queue we shall just FFE it13:55
dolphm(fails gate)13:56
ttxyep13:56
dolphmttx: sounds good13:56
ttxwould rather avoid it since it's like the FFE antechrist13:56
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dolphmttx: +++13:56
ttxvery bug and very featury13:56
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ttxbig13:56
ttxfreudian slip13:56
dolphmlol13:56
dolphmttx: on the upside- it's gone through a ton of review, and it's not enabled or included in the default pipeline13:57
ttxdolphm: you confirm you have no other FFE lined up, right13:57
dolphmttx: correct13:57
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ttxdolphm: cool, thx13:57
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dolphmnoorul: i haven't setup pbr myself, but maybe try "python setup.py sdist"? from your paste, there's no context for what you did to trigger the exception :(14:00
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ttxjgriffith: ping me when around, about FF15:26
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dhellmannsdague: have a minute to talk namespace packages?15:38
sdagueactually not right now, I'll be back in a bit though15:38
dhellmannsdague: ack15:38
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ttxdavid-lyle: around to discuss I3 and FFEs ?16:18
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david-lylettx: yes16:18
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ttxdavid-lyle: cleaned up https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/icehouse-3 to only keep things that were inflight16:18
ttxdavid-lyle: heat-fix-status-column will probably miss it, but then it should really be a bug16:19
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ttxhyper-v-console merged16:20
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david-lyleexcellent16:21
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ttxsomeone was a bit trigger-happy closing the aggregates one, reopening16:21
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david-lyleok, still in flight16:22
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ttxdavid-lyle: i'll move the heat-fix to RC1, it's a bugfix anyway16:22
ttxthat way i'll cut i3 without it16:22
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ttxdavid-lyle: i'd liek to review https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 and see what we should keep in16:22
david-lylelooking at that now16:23
ttxdavid-lyle: 7 sounds a bit disruptive. I fear that it would delay docs16:23
ttxalso reviewing those distracts you from bugfixing16:23
ttxwhich is the whole point of the RC period16:23
ttxhow much do you need per-user-quotas and heat-environment-file ?16:24
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ttxheat-fix-column should be removed and tracked as a precise bug16:25
david-lylenice to have, but not imperatice16:25
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david-lyleimperative16:25
ttxdavid-lyle: how close are they from landing ?16:25
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ttxdavid-lyle: if they are just around the corner, makes sense to keep them. If it's more open-ended... creates disruption16:26
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david-lyleper-project-quota is close, just very minor things that could be bugs16:26
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david-lylestatus-column is a pep 8 issue and dependency16:27
ttxdavid-lyle: actually heat-fix-status-column looks pretty far away. i'd rather remove it from RC1 and let you track it as a RC bug if you want it in16:27
david-lylerelooking16:28
ttxdavid-lyle: the series of patches looks scary at first glance16:28
david-lylelong interdependent set, but adds some much needed functionality to the heat UI16:28
david-lylethe highest priority one landed already though16:29
ttxhmm16:29
david-lylewe could get by without them16:29
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ttxdavid-lyle: get them until next Tuesday to land ?16:29
ttxheat-fix-status-column, per-user-quotas16:29
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david-lyleok, that works16:30
ttxwhat about heat-environment-file16:30
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david-lyleagain nice to have, been inflight for a while16:30
ttxOK, let's give it until next Tuesday too16:31
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david-lyleall of the heat patches sat idle for a bit due to developer confusion looking at gerrit and only seeing a +2 and not the -116:31
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ttxdavid-lyle: what about the *-rbac ones16:31
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ttxsounds like a key feature16:32
david-lyleit's a building block that we won't be able to exercise until Juno, so we can let those two miss16:32
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ttxAh. Good. OK if I push them to -next ?16:33
david-lyleyes16:33
ttxwill give breathing room for the remaining ones16:33
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ttxdjango-1point6: ?16:33
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david-lylethat one was ready, but a late merge introduced a blocking issue16:33
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david-lylefix is in the verify queue now and then I need to get the openstack/requirements patch reapproved16:34
ttxdavid-lyle: ok, let's keep it in16:34
david-lylethis really should be in16:34
david-lyleDjango 1.6 has been out for a while and is an issue for distros16:34
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ttxneutron-subnet-mode-support16:34
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david-lylethat gates entirely on neutron16:35
jpichfwiw: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/decrypt-and-display-vm-generated-password has been in review for 3 months, has been reviewed several times by someone from the security team among others and is only held back because of a small issue with the tests at the moment16:35
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jpichmay be worth considering if we're giving a bit of wiggle room to the others. I understand it's important for Windows support16:35
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ttxdavid-lyle: how desirable is it ?16:35
ttxdavid-lyle: patch is ready and pending neutron change ?16:35
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ttxjpich: how close is it ?16:36
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david-lylettx: vm-generate-passwords is required for windows support from the UI side, if it's ready I'd love to have it in16:37
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ttxdavid-lyle: fine if it merges before next Tuesday16:37
ttxadding it to list16:37
david-lylethe neutron item came on our radar very late, and I'd be ok pushing it16:37
jpichttx: Very close. It was reviewed by several cores as well. The test issue is Selenium specific - we could potentially extract them into their own separate patch to resolve separately during RC (there are other regular unit tests already)16:37
david-lyleit's small enough that it could be a bug fix really16:38
david-lyleon the Horizon side16:38
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david-lylejpich: +1 on that16:38
david-lyleseparating the selenium test16:38
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ttxdavid-lyle: I'll see with markmcclain how far it is and essential it is to them16:39
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ttxdavid-lyle: OK, I think we are good16:39
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david-lylettx: excellent16:39
david-lylenow we just have to get some of these through the gate16:40
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david-lyleremaining items that is16:40
ttxdavid-lyle: yes, will cut your I3 branch when those two emerge from gate16:40
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david-lylettx: thanks16:40
ttxshould take a couple more hours16:40
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ttxspeaking of the devil16:41
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ttxmarkmcclain: let me know when you have 5-10 minutes to discuss I3/FFEs16:41
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markmcclainttx: hi16:43
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ttxmarkmcclain: I have two blueprints inflight in the gate queue, I left them on https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-316:43
ttxmarkmcclain: the rest I deferred to rc1 or next depending on prio16:43
markmcclainthere's a 3rd16:43
ttxmarkmcclain: vpnaas-cisco-driver ?16:44
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markmcclainyeah16:44
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markmcclainit is isolated so we can defer to rc116:44
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ttxmarkmcclain: saw that the series was far from all-approved16:44
ttxchecking again16:44
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ttxmarkmcclain: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/vpnaas-cisco-driver,n,z16:45
ttxif the feature is complete without that -2ed one, I'm fine waiting for it to cut I316:45
markmcclainyeah the first 2 patches were reworked to only include cisco work16:45
ttxmarkmcclain: ok, let's add it back to i316:46
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ttxsince thsoe were approved in time16:46
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markmcclainthis was also in: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/bsn-certificate-enforcement16:46
ttxmarkmcclain: btw multiple-rpc-workers was not an i3-targeted BP so I added it16:46
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markmcclainbut failed in it's first run through the gate for reasons unrelated to it16:46
markmcclainah thanks16:47
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ttxmarkmcclain: review link ?16:47
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ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/70906/ ?16:47
markmcclainyes16:48
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ttxa bit too deep in queue to hold I3 for it16:48
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ttxbut RC1 material alright16:48
markmcclainthat's fine with me16:48
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ttxSo, looking at https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-rc116:48
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ttxmarkmcclain: I pushed everything there to clean up the I3 slate to only match inflight16:49
ttxmarkmcclain: now you need to reduce it to your FFE candidates16:49
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ttxand we'll go through that16:49
HenryGmarkmcclain: we'd also like to ask for FFE for cisco_apic ML2 mechanism driver. Getting 3rd party testing fixed today.16:49
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ttxmarkmcclain: ideally list should be under 816:50
ttxso it's time to slash16:50
ttxmarkmcclain: i'll let you go through it and push to next16:50
markmcclainttx: just to warn.. there is one IPv6 review that covers 4 blueprints16:50
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ttxmarkmcclain: I'll count that one as 116:50
markmcclainthe code itself is not big16:50
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ttxmarkmcclain: ping me when you reduced the list to your candidates, and we'l review list together ?16:51
markmcclainttx: sounds good16:51
ttxmarkmcclain: OK, talk to you later then16:52
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markmcclainHenryG: Unfortunately, we're past the deadline for new drivers in Icehouse to meet the code and testing requirements.  The best we can do is to merge when Juno opens.16:53
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HenryGmarkmcclain: ok, thanks16:54
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BLZbubbai'm trying to set up a vmware node just for fun.  can openstack manage an ESX system or do I really have to load vcenter?16:54
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BLZbubbaand is it possible to have a single glance image that the compute node will convert to the proper format?  my main goal is to have a single vm image be able to boot anywhere16:55
BLZbubbaso maybe if I store as VMDK then nova-compute will convert to raw and I'll be ok?16:56
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sgranBLZbubba: openstack has a vmware backend.  I don't personally know much about it, but there are docs for it16:59
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sgranas for disk image format, I've had to convert from vmdk for upload to glance before: something like http://openstack.prov12n.com/convert-import-a-vmware-image-to-openstack-kvm/ should help17:02
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sgranah, no, it seems glance does vmdk now17:04
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sgranso that should just be a normal image upload17:06
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BLZbubbasgran: from what I can tell, I have to use vCenter which requires vmdk's and doesn't let OpenStack do the scheduling17:08
BLZbubbaso I was hoping that this changed recently.17:09
BLZbubbathe vcenter part at least17:09
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sgranpass, sorry - I don't use vmware17:10
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BLZbubbame either, just trying a PoC here17:10
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sgranBLZbubba: yes, it looks like vsphere is required - the compute service just manages a cluster behind vsphere17:14
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harlowjaretr0h, yt17:29
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harlowjactracey retr0h so u guys might be interested in anvil17:30
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retr0hharlowja: yo17:31
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harlowjaretr0h hey, some y! folks were in the operator summit, heard packaging was raised (sorry i wasn't there, doing tripleo/ironic meetup this week)17:32
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BLZbubbasgran: gotcha.  i was thinking it would make more sense to just replace vcenter with nova-scheduler but it must not be quite so easy17:33
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harlowjaretr0h was the idea something that anvil maybe already does?17:33
retr0hharlowja: yeah, they talked about packaging a bit17:33
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retr0hharlowja: the idea was to provide tools to package and since anvil already does it, likely utilize that17:34
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harlowjaretr0h cool, let me know if u/others want an overview of whats its doing, i can sorta break it down17:34
harlowjathe pip dependency part is the complicated part really17:35
SergeyLukjanovdtroyer, hey, thanks for advices re docker@devstack, looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1288014 blocks using it atm17:35
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retr0hharlowja: yeah but that sounds like the cool part too :)17:35
harlowjaretr0h ya, it involves a few little helper programs we built17:35
harlowjahttps://github.com/stackforge/anvil/tree/master/tools#anvil-utility-toolbelt17:35
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harlowjaretr0h anyway, i can deep dive on it if u guys have some time17:37
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retr0hharlowja: I'd like that... maybe send someting out to openstack-operators deff interested17:38
harlowjak17:38
harlowjaretr0h how many people do u think would want to know (aka, will a hangout or something be big enough?)17:39
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retr0hharlowja: We can offer a hangout - I think those interested in common packaging tools is prob small enough17:46
harlowjaretr0h sounds good, let me sound out a email17:47
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BLZbubbasgran: AMAZING what a little googling will do - there is a VMwareESXDriver too17:50
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harlowjaretr0h k, email sent :)17:54
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fandihi all18:22
fandineed help18:22
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fandihttp://paste.openstack.org/show/72673/ my lbaas is not working18:22
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david-lylettx: last horizon patch in flight just merged19:15
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ttxdavid-lyle: yep, cutting branch19:27
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markmcclain1ttx: I think we can cut the Neutron branch now19:42
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markmcclain1lone blueprint can just get an implict FFE since we had to fix the db migration timeline19:42
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ttxmarkmcclain1: yep19:43
ttxnext on my list after horizon and keystone19:43
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markmcclain1perfect19:43
ttxand heat19:43
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cfriesen_I'm trying to bring up devstack, branch origin/stable/havana.  When I run stack.sh it gets to glance and then gives:20:31
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cfriesen_2014-03-05 14:19:53   File "/opt/stack/glance/glance/cmd/manage.py", line 40, in <module>20:31
cfriesen_2014-03-05 14:19:53     from oslo.config import cfg20:31
cfriesen_2014-03-05 14:19:53 ImportError: No module named config20:31
cfriesen_anyone got any ideas?20:31
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cfriesen_oslo.config exists in /opt/stack, doesn't exist on the main system python install20:32
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dhellmanncfriesen_: do you have any openstack packages installed as system packages?20:33
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cfriesen_only whatever devstack has done20:33
dhellmannthis is a brand new vm?20:34
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cfriesen_no, it's been up for a while, but I recently killed the stack and tried to rebuild it using havana.      One more piece of info...in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages I see "oslo.config.egg-link" which contains "/opt/stack/oslo.config"20:38
dhellmanncfriesen_: this issue is usually caused by having some *other* oslo package installed more than one time20:39
dhellmanndo you have an "oslo" directory in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages?20:39
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cfriesen_I've got nothing in  /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages.  It exists, but it's empty.20:40
dhellmannhow about dist-packages?20:42
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cfriesen_yes, there is an oslo dir there20:42
dhellmannok, what's in it?20:43
cfriesen_vmware20:43
cfriesen_with some python code in the vmware dir20:43
dhellmannok, and do you have an oslo.vmware.egg-link directory dist-packages?20:43
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cfriesen_yes, and a oslo.vmware-0.2.egg-info directory20:44
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dhellmanncfriesen_: ok, try: sudo pip uninstall oslo.vmware20:44
dhellmannyou might have to run that twice, to remove both versions of the library20:44
cfriesen_okay, first uninstall worked, second says it's not installed20:45
dhellmanncool20:45
ttxok, only ceilometer to go, waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75970/ to merge20:45
dhellmannnow try: python -c "from oslo.config import cfg; print cfg"20:45
cfriesen_Okay, trying devstack again.     How would I have ended up with the oslo vmware stuff there?20:46
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cfriesen_<module 'oslo.config.cfg' from '/opt/stack/oslo.config/oslo/config/cfg.py'>20:46
dhellmanncfriesen_: ok, good20:46
cfriesen_that looks better, before it was giving an error when I tried to manually import oslo.config20:47
dhellmannI'm not sure about where oslo.vmware came from on your system; I would need to know more about the history of how you've used it20:47
cfriesen_fair enough. :)   Thanks for the help.20:47
dhellmanncfriesen_: glad to help!20:49
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SpamapShmmm21:20
SpamapSwhy does keystone need oslo.messaging?21:20
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dhellmannI think the auditing middleware uses notifications21:21
SpamapSahh21:21
SpamapSok well keystone is broken in tripleo because it needs kombu but neither oslo.messaging nor keystone list it as a requirement21:21
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bknudsonkeystone has notifications for users, projects, etc.21:22
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bknudsonit can be configured to send notifications over rpc21:23
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dhellmannSpamapS: and neither is allowed because choosing the library for messaging is a deployer decision21:23
SpamapSdhellmann: doh.. been going the other way with database libs and just requiring all. :-P21:24
dhellmannSpamapS: you could do that in tripleo, I guess, but not in oslo.messaging -- how do you handle kombu for nova?21:24
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SpamapSdhellmann: looking now21:24
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SpamapSdhellmann: I can say confidently "not explicitly"21:25
SpamapSdhellmann: ./python2.7/site-packages/nova-2014.1.dev1050.gbb0445f-py2.7.egg-info/requires.txt:kombu>=2.4.821:26
dhellmannSpamapS: I see kombu in the nova requirements.txt21:26
dhellmannthat's a bit unfortunate21:26
SpamapSI think it is wonderful, as I disagree with "you must not install libraries you won't use" ... :-P21:26
SpamapSkombu isn't going to bite the 0mq users. ;)21:26
dhellmannI guess not21:27
SpamapSBut not having kombu is going to bite people who switch from qpid -> rabbitmq and just want to change configs to do it. :-P21:27
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SpamapSdhellmann: anyway, it's a philosophical discussion and I'll just deal. :p21:27
mrdadhellmann: So I've put in patch for xml in wsme, and there's some discussion on whether the change should be localised or not.  Can you take a look and comment on the approach?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78108/21:27
dhellmannmrda: ok21:28
SpamapS./lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat-2014.1.dev529.g252faed-py2.7.egg-info/requires.txt:kombu>=2.4.821:28
SpamapSseems 'rrbody does explicit requires21:28
dhellmannSpamapS: if we're going to do that, we should probably just do it in oslo.messaging instead of having kombu spread everywhere21:28
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dhellmannmrda: christophe is the primary author, so if he thinks this should go in core then I'll go along -- I was trying to give you a short cut21:29
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SpamapSdhellmann: agreed, submitting patch :)21:30
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dhellmannSpamapS: feature freeze?21:30
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SpamapSdhellmann: deployer breaking bug. ;)21:30
mrdadhellmann: I'll go down that path then, thanks!21:31
dhellmannSpamapS: if ttx is ok with it21:31
dhellmannmrda: ok21:31
SpamapSttx: do you mind patches which fix bugs?21:31
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guitarzanpmathews: ping!21:35
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guitarzanpmathews: rpc_cast_timeout with impl_zmq is actually milliseconds instead of seconds, no?21:36
SpamapSdhellmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/128842521:36
SpamapSdhellmann: sorry I'm in several f2f conversations and that didn't come out quite right ;)21:36
guitarzanguitarzan: oh wait...this is with ewindisch's patch21:36
dhellmannSpamapS: np :-)21:36
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guitarzanpmathews: ^^ nevermind, unless the timeout thing has been fixed in oslo messaging21:36
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SpamapSdhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/78424 .. for your consideration. Thanks. :)21:40
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dhellmannSpamapS: will devstack install all of the C libs needed for those, or is it "smart" and only installs what you're configured to use?21:46
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SpamapSdhellmann: let me check that while openstack CI checks that, as I am still faster even though it is a robot. ;)21:47
dhellmannSpamapS: heh, I thought you might just "know" :-)21:48
SpamapS./lib/rpc_backend:            install_package zeromq python-zmq redis21:48
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SpamapSshoot no that is only if it is enabled21:49
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dhellmannSpamapS: that might be why nova only lists kombu?21:50
SpamapSdhellmann: heat lists qpid and kombu21:51
SpamapSso there isn't exactly "consistency" here21:51
dhellmannSpamapS: yeah21:51
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SpamapSdhellmann: and I actually do believe this is "messy" no matter how you swing it21:52
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dhellmannSpamapS: it seems safe to add kombu and maybe qpid, but I'll have to wait and see what the tests say about the others21:54
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dhellmanneventually I would like to have these as dependencies of oslo.messaging and not list them on the other projects21:54
dhellmannSpamapS: oh, you probably want to remove kombu from the test-requirementst.xt21:54
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SpamapSdhellmann: ahh yes I'll do that. ty21:54
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bknudsondhellmann: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/db/sqlalchemy/session.py#n55022:19
bknudson:(22:19
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dhellmannbknudson: ?22:20
bknudsondhellmann: it gets logged constantly in keystone22:20
dhellmannwhy is that function being called so often?22:20
bknudsonI guess we can up the logging for keystone.openstack.common.db.sqlalchemy.session22:21
morganfainbergdhellmann, not sure why it's being called a lot22:21
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morganfainbergdhellmann, it shouldn't be afaict, but probably as a side effect of another call22:21
dhellmannmorganfainberg: probably22:21
bknudsondhellmann: is it this? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/db/sqlalchemy/session.py#n63522:21
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bknudsonlooks like a callback is registered.22:22
morganfainbergwe might be calling create_engine too much if thats the case.22:22
morganfainbergor need to fix the callback (more likley)22:22
bknudsonmorganfainberg: keystone should only be calling create_engine once for the process.22:22
morganfainbergbknudson, ++22:22
dhellmannhmm, what is the "checkout" event in sqlalchemy? maybe that's used when a handle is brought out from the pool?22:23
bknudsonI can set a breakpoint and see what's calling it easy enough.22:23
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bknudsonlooks like it's essentially every query is doing a checkout.22:24
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bknudsonkeystone/assignment/backends/sql.py(60)get_project_by_name() -- sqlalchemy/orm/query.py(2184)one() -- ... -- sqlalchemy/pool.py(474)checkout()22:25
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bknudsonkeystone does a lot of queries!22:26
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dhellmannhttp://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_9/core/events.html?highlight=checkout#sqlalchemy.events.PoolEvents.checkout22:27
dhellmann"called when a connection is retrieved from the pool"22:28
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dhellmannso we should probably change that log level22:28
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dhellmannor make it only log once in some other way22:28
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bknudsonI would be fine with a log once.22:29
dhellmannI wonder if we should be running that "set session" command every time we do a checkout22:30
bknudsonthat could get expensive.22:30
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dhellmannwell, that's what we do now22:30
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dhellmannI guess we want to be very sure :-)22:30
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dhellmannwith connection pooling, we have to do it at least once per connection22:31
dhellmannbknudson: would you file a bug, and I'll ask viktors to look at it?22:31
bknudsondhellmann: sure.22:32
bknudsonI've got another bug to file, too.22:32
dhellmannbknudson: thanks!22:32
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bknudsonI'll just submit the fix, it's easy enough to only log once.22:32
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dhellmannbknudson: ok, I want viktors to look at whether we can only perform the set session once, but that's a juno change22:33
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bknudsondhellmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/128844322:36
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dhellmannbknudson: marked high and scheduled for rc122:37
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bknudsondhellmann: here's the other one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/128844522:40
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ace____is there a github repo that is a skel for a new openstack project ?22:45
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spandhe_boris-42: hello!22:48
boris-42spandhe_ hi22:48
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boris-42spandhe_ about vlan22:49
boris-42spandhe_ so I didn't touch logic=)22:49
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boris-42spandhe_ I just add UC to avoid there race condition22:49
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harlowjaboris-42 how do u know the question already, lol22:49
harlowja:-P22:49
harlowjau mindread?22:49
harlowjahahaha22:49
boris-42harlowja ya22:49
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spandhe_boris-42: lol!22:49
boris-42harlowja somekind of=022:49
harlowjaboris-42 u have superpower22:50
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spandhe_boris-42: what was the race condition here - that there should never be two networks with same VLAN?22:50
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boris-42spandhe_ the way how they checked22:51
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boris-42spandhe_ before my patch it was like (do select, if something is => raise DuplicateVlan)22:51
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boris-42spandhe_ between "select" and "add" we have actually some period of time22:52
spandhe_boris-42: ok.. got it..22:52
boris-42sooo22:52
boris-42I added real unique key22:52
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boris-42and now we just trying to add new records and in case of DBDuplicateEntry we are raising DuplicateValn22:53
spandhe_boris-42: I actually have a question about the logic.. why unique constraint on vlan.. in any case, for my use case, I need to remove that constraint..22:53
boris-42spandhe_ what is the purpose of such change?)22:54
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spandhe_boris-42: just that the internal network requirements are such that, we need to remove the constraint..22:55
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boris-42spandhe_ so we have a couple of issues here22:56
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boris-42spandhe_ it is feature freeze now (so you won't be able to merge this patch soon)22:56
boris-42spandhe_ it's related to nova network (and not sure that it will be accepted)22:56
harlowjaspandhe_ so whats the need for duplicate vlans? forgot if u explained to me22:58
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spandhe_boris-42: ok.. that makes sense.. In general, how dangerous is it to modify the schema?22:58
harlowjavlan 8, and vlan 8?22:58
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boris-42spandhe_ I think it requires a bit investigation22:59
boris-42spandhe_ I mean removing UC is not a big problem22:59
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spandhe_harlowja: something like that.. boris-42 ideally we shouldnt see such scenario.. in my case, the networks that I have, they are in the same vlan23:00
boris-42spandhe_ but what will happen with nova… in such case .. I don't know=)23:00
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boris-42spandhe_ so be free to propose such change23:01
harlowjaspandhe_ k, so its connected to have multiple networks in the same vlan, wouldn't those multiple networks just reference the same (unique) vlan then?23:01
harlowjaM : 1 releation?23:01
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boris-42spandhe_ but I recommend to put it on mailing list..23:01
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boris-42spandhe_ and better after FF23:01
harlowja+1 agree with boris-42, someone else might have some feedback on it (or the problems around that)23:02
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boris-42harlowja ya some network guy23:02
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harlowjanova-network 'freeze', FF will make it hard, people might be pretty busy also right now23:02
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spandhe_boris-42: sorry was away.. I dont think theres a way for M-1 mapping..23:11
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spandhe_boris-42: one more question about the db...23:35
boris-42spandhe_ ?23:35
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spandhe_boris-42: when exactly do these migrate scripts run? during db_sync? or do they run periodically in the background?23:36
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boris-42spandhe_ they are run when administrator run nova-manage db sync23:37
boris-42spandhe_ it takes from DB last "version" first 3 numbers of file with migration23:37
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boris-42spandhe_ and execute all scripts from this number to the last one by one23:38
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spandhe_boris-42: ok.... thanks a lot for the explanation!23:38
boris-42spandhe_ np23:39
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ssuranacan someone point me to a doc that is meant for the permissions model in openstack? specifically i am interested in looking at permissions required for creating port on neutron23:49
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