Friday, 2014-03-28

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jogodtroyer: yt? re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83077/00:05
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tchaypoy help02:43
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ianwadam_g: hi, can I just clarify what to do about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80520/02:49
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adam_gianw, we're 1 week out from 2013.2.3. we "freeze" the branches for one week to allow people some time to test for regressions, etc02:51
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ianwadam_g: cool, so is this something I abandon and resubmit after then?02:52
adam_gianw, you can just leave it for the week, once we cut the tarballs on thursday  i'll remove all the -2s02:52
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ianwadam_g: ok, thanks, good to know02:53
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adam_gianw, we'll grant exceptions if something critical didn't make it in time or someone finds a regression02:54
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jamielennoxekarlso: are you here?04:07
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ekarlsojamielennox: now yes07:51
ekarlso:P07:51
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eglynnttx: good morning09:33
eglynnttx: at what o'clock are you planning to cut RC1 for ceilo?09:33
eglynn(approx)09:34
ttxeglynn: when jd__ tells me it's ready09:34
eglynnttx: cool, good answer :)09:34
ttxeglynn: we need at least that in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76762/09:34
ttxeglynn: Also still 4 bugs on the list. If they are indeed release-critical, I think RC1 will be Monday09:35
eglynnttx: yeah, a couple of those bugs at least are landable today09:35
eglynnttx: ... but extra breathing space to get these landed always welcome :)09:36
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ttxeglynn: RC1 is not time-based, it's when release-critical bugs are all fixed09:36
ttxeglynn: it's supposed to be releasable.09:36
eglynnttx: cool, sounds good09:36
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afaranhajohnthetubaguy: Hello, I'm helping Telles with the change instance ownership blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/change-instance-ownership). I would like to know about do you mean by re-submitting via nova-specs11:29
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johnthetubaguyafaranha: there are more details here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Nova11:30
johnthetubaguyafaranha:  this is the new git repo we use for storing specifications: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova-specs/tree/README.rst11:30
johnthetubaguydo hop into #openstack-nova there are more nova folks over there11:31
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afaranhajohnthetubaguy: I was assigned for this yesterday, I'm still understanding was was done and what's left.11:40
afaranhajohnthetubaguy: There still some improvements to be done, so I think we should fix it before submit to nova-spec. Thank you11:41
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johnthetubaguyafaranha: sure, feel free to edit it. Before patches land, and the blueprint is approved again, there will need to be a nova-spec entry. The review process should really happen before the code, in an ideal world, so its more likely that your patches will get in easily11:42
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johnthetubaguyafaranha: I don't see any code submitted to gerrit, so nothing is merged upstream11:43
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afaranhajohnthetubaguy: I understood now, we need to improve the blueprint description and then re-submit, ok11:48
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johnthetubaguyafaranha: yeah, its a new release, so all blueprints need to be re-approved, at least in nova, just this time specs are going into nova-specs, so we can review things more easily11:49
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ihrachys|wfhflaper87: doesn't that qpid delay fix belong to some other official projects? like glance or ceilometer...13:11
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flaper87ihrachys|wfh: not glance, keystone yes and probably also ceilometer I'll backport the patch to those projects too13:12
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ihrachys|wfhflaper87: meaning, more freeze breaks13:14
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flaper87ihrachys|wfh: freeze exceptions* (breaks sounds like I'm breaking stuff :P)13:14
flaper87which I'm probably doing13:14
flaper87:P13:14
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ihrachys|wfhflaper87: :) whatever. hopefully, these are fixes, not breaks :)13:16
ihrachys|wfhflaper87: I was just confused by your two freeze exception requests, because there are more13:17
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flaper87ihrachys|wfh: done!13:19
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dstanekanyone here familiar with testscenarios? i'm specifically trying to figure out how they work in oslo's test_gettext13:57
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ttxjd__: your input wanted on the happybase -dev thread14:24
ttxmarkmcclain: o/14:24
markmcclainhi14:24
ttxmarkmcclain: afaict you're done now, only need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83434/14:25
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ttxmarkmcclain: or are you waiting on somtheing else ?14:25
markmcclainI've got to send a no-op Icehouse migration14:25
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markmcclainand then I'll approve that one14:26
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ttxmarkmcclain: ok. If you have a bug or a change to track that last one, I could use it14:26
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markmcclainok.. I'll make one14:26
ttxmarkmcclain: the review is enough14:26
ttxif you have it :)14:27
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markmcclainttx: https://review.openstack.org/8376214:33
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alexpilottittx: hi15:28
ttxalex_xu: o/15:29
ttxdamn15:29
ttxalexpilotti: o/15:29
alexpilottittx: I was looking at the blueprints status and this one is still marked as "Needs code review": https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+spec/hyper-v-rdp-console15:29
ayoungdanpb,    eglynn, pixelb, devstack on Fedora is broken again due to mysql configuration.  Do we have a workaround?  I get:   mysql -ukeystone -pkeystone -h127.0.0.1 -e 'DROP DATABASE IF EXISTS keystone;'15:29
ayoungERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'keystone'@'localhost' (using password: YES)15:29
alexpilottittx: should I marked as implemented? I'm not aware of how the procedure works :-)15:30
ttxalexpilotti: yes please15:30
ttxalexpilotti: i only update it when the assignee or ptl doesn't do it :)15:30
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alexpilottittx: ok tx! :-)15:30
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johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: ah, python-novaclient, I need to look into what we do about those blueprints at some point, thats a good reminder15:37
alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: tx!15:37
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johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: a noticed some blueprint that just missed Havanna never got into Icehouse, might be worth rebase-ing some of those for Juno, when it happens?15:39
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alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: sure, we decided to limit the number of blueprints in Icehouse to be able to concentrate on the CI15:42
alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: thanks for reminding me of this, we'll resort them for Juno15:43
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alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: since we are on the topic, there's a very interesting blueprint that you drafted for Icehouse that didn't make in time15:43
alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: it's about network info in the metadata15:43
johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: oh yeah, it has code for it, so hopefully it will be in early Juno, will have to see15:44
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johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: I handed it off to some other developers, but will try re-start that15:44
johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: I assumed it was the CI that delayed things, a very very good call15:45
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johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: in case you missed it, we change the process for Juno slightly, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Nova15:45
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johnthetubaguyit should be better, more up front design reviews15:46
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alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: thanks, for the pointer. There's actually a question I wanted to ask: is there a deadline for the nova-spec design specs?15:49
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johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: not yet, but it would certainly be after the summit, I would think, although we might need to close Juno-1 really early, if we get loads of blueprint flood in15:51
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alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: during the last cycle BPs needed to be sponsored by a core reviewer, I didn't see this in the new criteria15:52
alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: is this still going to be in place?15:53
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johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: nope, we dropped that, didn't really work, no one sponsored anything, but be-friending cores will get things in quicker, ideas on a postcard about how to make that better!15:54
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alexpilottijohnthetubaguy: ok tx for clarifying, makes sense. I'll draft out the specs very early in the cycle most probably straight after the design summit :-)15:55
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johnthetubaguyalexpilotti: sounds cool, do ping me for questions15:56
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FunnyLookinHatAnyone here running devstack with Ubuntu 14.04?  Just moved from 12.04 and did a fresh devstack install and it's running fairly slow in comparison...17:01
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devoidif you find a bug in nova.openstack.common, should you fix it in oslo?18:19
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dhellmanndevoid: yes19:18
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notmynameayoung: BTW, turns out python-keystoneclient depends on WebOb, but it's not in requirements.txt19:49
ayoungnotmyname, how does it require webob?19:50
notmynameayoung: (I'm not part of the conversation, but I'm overhearing something from another corner of the office)19:50
notmynameayoung: something to do with S3 tokens?19:50
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ayoungnotmyname, ah19:50
ayoungs3 token middleware?19:50
notmynameayoung: yup.19:50
notmynameayoung: looks like it's in test-requirements, but not requirements19:51
ayoungthat may be intentiona;l19:51
notmynameayoung: ok. like I said, I'm not directly a part but I can understand that19:51
ayoungnotmyname, the problem is that the S3 middleware doesn't really belong there either...or anywhere.19:52
ayoungbut we can probably use the same approach as auth_token to talk to Swift.  Get them to file it as a bug, but the change will not be putting webob into requirements19:53
ayoungit will be making S3 use the same remote calls as the other parts of the client19:53
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arosenewindisch:  I had  a quick question about docker and neutron support if you're around.19:59
ewindischpong20:00
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arosenewindisch:  so i'm one of the neutron cores and i was looking to play around with docker and see how it works today with openstack and perhaps helpout getting it to work with neutron.20:01
ewindischarosen: great.20:02
arosenewindisch:  is the easiest way to deploy it: https://github.com/ewindisch/dockenstack ?20:02
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ewindischarosen: technically, yes. It doesn’t yet deploy the stackforge driver, though.. it defaults to my nova branch20:02
ewindischI should have that updated / fixed soon20:03
ewindischstackforge driver - https://github.com/stackforge/nova-docker20:03
arosenewindisch:  In the current state of docker and openstack I guess you can boot a docker image that is configured to run a process it in?20:03
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arosenand networking will also work with nova-network ?20:03
* arosen for docker. 20:04
ewindischyes20:04
arosenewindisch:  So it seems like adding neutron support for docker with openvswitch shouldn't be to hard since it already works with nova-network?20:04
ewindischcorrect20:05
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ewindischand someone even made it work, but their patch had some issues that prevented us from merging it20:06
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ewindisch(I forget the details but I think it removed nova-network support entirely, and it might not have even worked with Neutron.. it might’ve just been a “work with our hand-rolled OVS”)20:07
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ewindischbut yeah, making it work with ovs shouldn’t be too difficult20:07
arosenewindisch:  Does the interface reside in the docker instance? I.e: can you do something like docker instance ifconfig?20:08
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ewindischarosen: they’re in Linux namespaces so you can you do ‘ip addr’ on the “host” side ;-)20:08
ewindischor rather ‘ip netns exec ip addr’ — something to that effect20:09
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arosenewindisch:  and you just connect the namespace to the host with a veth ?20:09
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ewindischbasically. The namespace’s virtual ethernet device is called pvnetl* and that is added to a bridge20:12
ewindischthe brctl logic could be easily replaced..20:12
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ewindischideally, you’d only have to make changes to the _setup_network method of docker/driver.py20:13
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arosenewindisch:  last quick question. I'm slightly confused about the heat integration that i'm reading about. Is the current architecture still this when using docking in openstack ? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/File:Docker-under-the-hood.png20:17
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ewindischarosen: there are two disparate integrations. One is a nova plugin, the other is a heat plugin20:19
ewindischthe nova plugin provides a virt driver, and the heat plugin provides a resource for your templates20:19
arosenewindisch:  i'm wondering about the heat template given here: http://blog.docker.io/category/openstack/ does this spin up a server on nova and then installs docker on it for you. Then it deploys a cirros image in docker for you?20:19
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ewindischcorrect20:20
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ewindischhttp://www.slideshare.net/ewindisch/docker-open-stack-3286599620:21
arosenewindisch:  so when using heat it seems like there doesn't need to be any docker intergration in the nova virt layer?20:22
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ewindischarosen: yes, but you’re still going through a virt layer, of course.20:22
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arosenewindisch:  you mean as in that you're be using the kvm one to launch the original nova instance that docker is going to run on?20:22
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ewindischarosen: yes20:23
ewindischarosen: it would be possible (with a one-line change) to use the virt driver AND the heat driver to do docker containers on docker containers between Heat and Nova ;-)20:23
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ewindischif someone were so inclined to do something like that. *shrug*20:23
arosenewindisch:  In the intergration with heat though; I'm slightly confused how networking would work. The networking would have to also be handed in the guest vm for the docker instance. So we'd need to install and run ovs there as well as in the underlying hv?20:24
ewindischarosen: the nova virt driver is the “vm replacement” strategy. Heat is the strategy for using docker for improving your workload deployment on your existing or hybrid-cloud infrastructure20:25
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ewindischarosen: in the Heat case, Nova integrates with Neutron and docker gets whatever networking that Nova gives it (which may implicitly be a neutron network)20:26
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ewindischthat is, docker is just an app inside a VM and has access to that VM’s network stack just like any other application running in a VM20:26
arosenewindisch:  I see but what if you want to have multiple instances running on that nova instance in different networks?20:26
arosendocker instances*20:27
ewindischarosen: then you’d need that nova instance to be connected to those various neutron networks20:27
ewindisch- right now -20:27
arosenewindisch:  cool i think i get the picture. I'll try and deploy dockerstack from you're repo20:27
ewindischarosen: so there is interest in adding Neutron support to Docker itself…20:27
arosenthanks for you time!20:27
ewindischand that would make it easier for both the Heat and the Nova-virt use-caes20:28
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ewindischas well as anyone that might want to use Neutron outside of a bigger openstack picture20:28
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ewindischarosen: sure - but do mind it might not be working right now :)20:28
ewindischarosen: at the very least you might need to downgrade docker to 0.8 if it installs 0.920:28
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arosenewindisch:  thanks for the tip. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again!20:31
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