Friday, 2014-04-04

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iliveshi stackers, we need to setup the icehouse multinode with devstack for poc, we will use neutron not nova-network, for the compute node what will the localrc look like? thanks!01:35
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noorulIs there a place on internet from where we can download readily available qwo2 images for popular distros ?06:28
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ekarlsodhellmann: u up ?07:08
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alsI'm trying to do some remote debugging to the swift proxy-server08:11
alsi can get the connection working08:11
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alssince i get a message in my debugger of connected08:12
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alsbut when i try to make a request to swift08:12
alsit doesnt respond08:12
alsi placed my code here in swift / swift / common / wsgi.py08:12
alsin the method run_server08:13
alsmy code is basically pydev.settrace ...08:13
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alsi have the feeling i have to do some other setup08:13
alsas in disable threads or events or something like that08:14
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alsmy question is, how do you debug proxy-server?08:14
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matrohonAkimoto : ping08:15
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Akimotomatrohon: pong09:13
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samuelmzHey, What should I do to get Nova working with keystone v3? I am having the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1264483 that refers to https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/126284312:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1264483 in horizon "Multidomain support KO: return 401 on nova client" [Undecided,New]12:36
samuelmzAny idea on I could solve this? Is it just changin some config?12:38
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matrohondansmith : hi12:50
jpichsamuelmz: There's also a #openstack-nova channel, perhaps someone will be able to help there12:52
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samuelmzjpich, Ok, I'm gonna ask my question there... thanks :-)12:52
jpichsamuelmz: Good luck! :)12:53
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dansmithmatrohon: hello13:27
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matrohondansmith : hi13:35
matrohondansmith : i'm trying to understand how neutron events work with nova13:36
dansmithokay13:36
matrohondansmith : nova wait for neutron event "completed" before booting the VM, am I right?13:37
dansmithmatrohon: network-vif-plugged for each port, but yes13:37
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matrohondansmith : ok and this event is triggered by neutron when the status of the port get ACTIVE, which means that a neutron agent has seen the port plugged on a bridge13:40
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matrohondansmith : to me that also means that the VM has been booted up13:40
dansmithmatrohon: mostly, yes, the event is fired when the port is active13:41
dansmithmatrohon: no, the guest is not running at this point13:41
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dansmithmatrohon: the point of synchronization is that we must start (but not run) the guest so the hypervisor will create the interfaces,13:41
dansmithso that neutron can attach them, report success, and then nova can let the guest start booting13:41
dansmiththe point is, the guest cannot be allowed to boot until we know the network is ready13:42
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matrohondansmith : thanks a lot, i didn't get that VM could be started, and so VIF created, but not run. Thanks for this clarification13:43
dansmithyep, most hypervisors have the ability to start in a paused state,13:44
dansmithwhere the virtual machine is fully initialized, but the virtual processor does not start executing instructions until it is told to13:44
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matrohonthis process is also used during live-migration? I wonder if we can live-migrate from one vif_type to another (and so changing ML2 MD which bind the port)13:47
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dansmithmatrohon: nope, just boot right now13:51
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ttxmarkmcclain: o/14:28
markmcclainttx: o/14:29
ttxmarkmcclain: shall we open RC2 window now ?14:29
markmcclainyes14:29
ttxmarkmcclain: ok stand by while I set up the milestone14:29
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ttxmarkmcclain: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-rc214:31
markmcclainttx: thanks14:31
ttxprepopulated with my 2 release-related things14:31
ttxmarkmcclain: backport for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1301027 already proposed -- shall I add it ?14:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1301027 in neutron "Permission denied error in unit tests" [High,Fix committed]14:32
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markmcclainyes14:33
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markmcclainttx: I'll revisit the committed bugs tagged with icehouse-backport and retarget/propose the backports14:35
ttxmarkmcclain: ack14:35
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markmcclainttx: this bug needs to targeted to Nova's RC2 if possible: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/128471814:38
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1284718 in nova "interface-attach to external network a) works and b) results in undeletable instances" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:38
ttxrussellb: ^14:38
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ttxmarkmcclain: is there a nova patch somewhere ?14:39
markmcclainttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85189/14:39
markmcclainttx: russellb and I discussed this yesterday14:39
ttxoh. it's all in nova or there is something to land in neutron too ?14:39
markmcclainjust wanted to make sure you knew about it14:39
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markmcclainthe fix is contained with nova14:40
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ttxmarkmcclain: ok, I should probably remove the neutron task on it then14:40
ttxif only LP would let me14:40
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markmcclainI just removed Neutron from the bug14:41
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ttxack14:41
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ttxadded to nova rc214:41
markmcclainthanks14:41
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ttxdavid-lyle: o/14:42
david-lyleo/14:42
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ttxdavid-lyle: I think we have enough to open a RC2 window for horizon... do you agree ?14:42
david-lyleyes14:42
ttxok, opening and targeting a few bugs at it14:43
david-lyleexcellent14:43
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/icehouse-rc214:44
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david-lylettx: looks good to me14:44
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ttxdavid-lyle: you have backports already up for bug 1298991, bug 1301935 and bug 128719214:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1298991 in horizon "Duplicated colon in _container_metadata.html " [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129899114:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1301935 in horizon "Dashboard ignores the HORIZON_CONFIG['user_home'] setting" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130193514:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1287192 in horizon "Improve handle method on ManageAggregateHostWorkflow class" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128719214:45
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ttxdavid-lyle: if you add them I'll approve the backports14:45
david-lyleok, I'll take a look14:45
ttxgeneral rule is to approve safe/sane fixes :)14:45
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david-lylejust like stable then14:45
david-lyle?14:45
ttxand leave out crazy fixes that may break more than they fix14:45
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ttxdavid-lyle: not exactly like stable.14:46
ttxdavid-lyle: there are basically two types of backports to pre-release MP branch14:46
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ttxthe first one are release blockers, bugs you can't really release with. Think missing translations, or license issues14:47
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ttxthose may not make greate stable candidates14:47
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ttxthose are the things that trigger new RCs14:47
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ttxbut once the window is opened, you can look at issues that were already fixed in master, and pick sane/safe fixes14:48
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ttxfor backport14:48
david-lylettx: sure, I was thinking more for the latter group14:48
david-lylebut all makes sense14:48
ttxfor those, yes, the same rules as stable apply14:48
ttxthey just need to beat the benefit/risk ratio14:49
ttxbut the closer we get to release, the higher the bar is put14:49
ttxat this point, if they are sane and safe they are game.14:49
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ttxjgriffith: on a backporting spree ?14:57
jgriffithttx: I am14:58
jgriffithttx: only *safe* items of course14:59
jgriffithttx: but might as well14:59
ttxjgriffith: don't forget to target the corresponding bugs to RC214:59
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ttxand i'll approve them14:59
jgriffithttx: Yep, I'm doing that next :)14:59
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ttxdavid-lyle: should I target https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1287192 to RC2 ?15:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1287192 in horizon "Improve handle method on ManageAggregateHostWorkflow class" [High,Fix committed]15:07
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david-lylettx: yes, that one we should get in RC215:08
ttxdavid-lyle: what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1301935 ?15:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1301935 in horizon "Dashboard ignores the HORIZON_CONFIG['user_home'] setting" [Undecided,Fix committed]15:08
david-lylelooking at that one again15:08
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david-lylettx: yes that one should go too, low risk, long standing bug15:10
ttxok15:10
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ttxjgriffith: all approved but https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1299124 (not targeted to RC2). Oversight ?15:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1299124 in cinder "Cinder fails to delete volumes on Windows" [High,Fix committed]15:16
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jgriffithttx: yes, oversight... thanks!15:23
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jgriffithttx: one more, I'll backport once it lands in master, then I believe I've got everyting I'm comfortable with15:29
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ttxjgriffith: I see 2 open15:31
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ttxshould one of them be removed ?15:31
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ttxwe need some requirements sync to happen as well (the bug which is assigned to me)15:31
jgriffithttx: looking15:32
jgriffithttx: yeah, just saw that assigned to you15:32
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ttxit shall get auto-proposed/approved15:34
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jgriffithdolphm: ping15:39
dolphmjgriffith: o/15:39
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jgriffithdolphm: I wanted to compare notes on how each of us did that henous jenkins translate fail backport :)15:40
jgriffithdolphm: see if we can help others with a way to go about it15:40
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dolphmjgriffith: i used that script i posted in the bug, nothing more15:40
jgriffithdolphm: oh?15:40
dolphmjgriffith: have a link to the bug?15:40
* jgriffith wishes he would've seen that15:40
dolphmjgriffith: ha15:40
jgriffithttx: ^^15:41
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dolphmjgriffith: checkout milestone-proposed, run this script against your locale directory (i.e. clean_po.py keystone/locale/) https://gist.github.com/dolph/9915293 and you're done15:41
ttxdolphm: maybe comment on the bug so that everyone knows about it15:41
dolphmttx: i did!15:41
ttxdamn, my bugread foo is flawed15:42
jgriffithdolphm: TBF the bug is getting lengthy15:42
jgriffithdolphm: I missed it, and frankly looking now still can't find it :(15:42
dolphmhrm15:42
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jgriffithdolphm: ttx maybe a ML note to dev?15:42
ttxdolphm: it's mentioned on your review15:42
dolphmwhat's the bug number?15:43
ttxoh. found it15:43
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1299349/comments/2515:43
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1299349 in nova "upstream-translation-update Jenkins job failing" [Medium,In progress]15:43
dolphmi tried to be helpful :(15:43
ttxdolphm: yes, thread to dev with the howto maybe15:43
dolphmttx: ack15:43
ttxceilometer glance heat neutron will need it to complete their RC215:44
jgriffithdolphm: beside, my method my be garbage after looking at yours :)15:44
ttxand Nova too15:44
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ttxjgriffith: still time to fix the garbage15:44
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jgriffithttx: I'm checking now15:44
jgriffithttx: dolphm actually it looks like we might get the same results so that's good15:44
jgriffithI'll run his script and diff15:44
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jgriffithttx: dolphm so the good thing is running that script on my MP changes no files15:48
jgriffithttx: dolphm at least I *think* that's good :)15:48
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ttxyour locally-grown organic change tastes the same as Dolph's industrial result15:48
dolphmrofl15:49
jgriffithttx: dolphm LOL15:49
jgriffith+1 for industrial grown15:49
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dolphmttx: jgriffith: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-April/031918.html15:57
jgriffithdolphm: cool... thanks!15:58
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ttxdolphm: you need to run it on master AND on milestone-proposed separately, right15:58
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ttxclear enough15:59
dolphmttx: yes15:59
ttxcool thx15:59
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jgriffithttx: anything back from infra on the requirements sync?16:01
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jgriffithttx: just curious16:01
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ttxjgriffith: in the gate16:01
jgriffithawesome!!16:01
ttxwhen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85363/ merges it should trigger a new set of changes16:01
jgriffithttx: most excellent!  Thanks!16:01
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ttxrequirements sync to milestone-proposed directly (from requirements Mp branch)16:02
ttxif my fix works as advertised :)16:02
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jgriffithttx: that'll be neat... here's hoping it works first time out16:02
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afaranhaHello, in testing nova I got a PolicyNotAuthorized error, does anyone know how to get a valid context that allows me to use compute_extensions?17:58
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flashgordondhellmann: it looks like log translation is slowing things down. and log translation happens even if the log isn't used  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84806/318:01
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dhellmannflashgordon: is nova using the ContextAdapter or the new ContextFormatter?18:18
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flashgordondhellmann: checking, why does that matter though?18:19
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dhellmannflashgordon: I think the adapter does the translation earlier than the formatter, but let me look.18:19
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flashgordondhellmann: it doesn't choose one explicitly, but it looks like getLogger in nova's oslo code uses ContextAdapter18:22
dhellmannflashgordon: I think the adapter's process() method, which does the translation, is called regardless of whether the message is going to be output: https://docs.python.org/2/howto/logging-cookbook.html#using-loggeradapters-to-impart-contextual-information18:22
dhellmannyep18:22
dhellmannas we move the logging code into a library, we're going to be moving away from using contextadapter18:23
flashgordonso that may help too18:23
dhellmannthat's probably too big of a change to make in the rc now, though, since we have't worked out the details18:23
flashgordonI wa refering to i18n stuff too18:23
flashgordonwhere we do LOG.debug(_('foo'))18:23
flashgordondhellmann: not sure how the a different logger helps that though18:24
dhellmannwell, you can start by not translating the debug messages, since the translation team said it was ok to not do those18:24
flashgordonsay what!18:24
flashgordonlink?18:24
flashgordonthat is wonderful18:24
dhellmannif you have lazy translation on, _() returns a Message that is translated when output rather than inline18:24
flashgordonhmm how do you turn on lazy translation?18:24
dhellmannhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LoggingStandards#Log_Translation18:25
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dhellmannpass the flag when you set up gettextutils18:25
dhellmannit appears to be off by default in nova18:25
dhellmannthough I didn't search for the call to install()18:26
dhellmannsdague: are you going to host a cross-project session on logging standards at the summit?18:26
flashgordondhellmann: that wiki page doesn't point to being able to remove log translation all together18:27
flashgordonohh 'Debug messages are not translated, for now.18:27
dhellmannflashgordon: if you're worried about performance in a section of the code, it should be safe to remove them for icehouse/juno18:28
dhellmannif we do start translating them, that won't happen until K18:28
flashgordonwell I think enable_lazy well help a alot18:29
flashgordonwill start with that18:29
flashgordonjust have to add it to every cmd I think18:29
dhellmannflashgordon: that's likely to cause other changes18:29
sdaguedhellmann: yes18:29
flashgordondhellmann: how so?18:29
dhellmannflashgordon: Message objects don't support all of the operations of strings, so if you have something like _('msg') + 'string' you'll get an exception18:29
sdagueI'm going to try to write that up in a a few18:29
flashgordonahh I don't think we have those but I will find out soon18:30
dhellmannsdague: cool, can we piggyback some translation stuff in that session? should only be a couple of bullet points18:30
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flashgordonhmm adding enable_lazy to cmds won't work for unit tests18:30
dhellmannflashgordon: we found several over the whole code base, but I don't have a list of where they were18:30
sdaguedhellmann: probably, though I feel like we probably actually want a "once and for all" translation set of standards18:30
flashgordonguess add it there18:30
sdaguebecause that one we've been going around and around on18:30
dhellmannsdague: are there any questions besides debug logging?18:31
sdagueI don't know, do we have general agreement on what's supposed to be translated?18:32
dhellmannhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LoggingStandards#Log_Translation18:32
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dhellmannwe put that list together in hong kong with daisy's support18:32
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sdagueok18:32
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sdagueso do we actually have something we need agreement on?18:33
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dhellmannthe agreement led to the oslo team building some tools, but it hasn't been signed off by the other projects18:33
sdaguethe cross project sessions I think will be most useful when we are either trying to create agreement or discussion. I guess I'm not clear on what the bullets on i18n would be.18:33
sdagueok18:34
dhellmannI don't want to derail, but I don't think it's worth a session on its own. Maybe at the end of yours?18:34
dhellmannand if we don't get to it, we can move to the ML18:34
sdagueI just fear that we've ratholed on i18n in the past that if we bring it up, we need to give it room to breath18:34
dhellmannI can propose a separate session, then, I guess18:34
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sdagueor we could take it to the list now and project meeting, and just try to get sign off in advance18:35
sdagueif you think it's close18:35
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flashgordondhellmann: you think its fine to drop log translation for debug logs all together in nova though right?18:35
dhellmannsdague: you know, I did bring it up at the project meeting earlier this cycle, so maybe we don't need to talk about it again -- I was thinking mostly of publicity and making sure the new crop of ptls are still on board18:36
dhellmannflashgordon: yes, we expect to be doing that during juno anyway18:36
flashgordonsweet18:36
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sdagueflashgordon is awesome at cleanup patches, I expect the review queue to be full soon with those18:39
flashgordonsdague: heh, I usually try to just use sed or awk18:39
sdagueperl -pi -e 's/.../.../' *.py18:39
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sdagueI still resort to perl one liners for most of that18:40
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flashgordonanyay here is my first pass along with a note to myself: https://review.openstack.org/8544318:41
dhellmannflashgordon: if you want to tie the work to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/log-messages-translation-domain-rollout that would be good (maybe with a new nova blueprint?)18:41
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flashgordondhellmann: was gonna create a new nova BP I think18:41
* flashgordon heads to lunch18:41
dhellmannflashgordon: link with a dependency?18:41
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flashgordonsure18:41
dhellmannflashgordon: enjoy your lunch! :-)18:42
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flashgordonso some synthetic tests of unused logs plus log translation shows a massive overhead18:42
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dhellmannsdague: does tempest have unit tests for its own code? should I cross-test tempest with oslo.config?19:37
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sdagueit does have unit tests of it's own now19:40
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sdagueso sure19:40
dhellmannok19:40
sdaguemtreinish would be the one to ask on that though, he did most of those19:41
sdagueto figure out if there is benefit19:41
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mtreinishdhellmann: yeah we use the config fixture and play games with the config file in the tempest unit tests19:42
mtreinishso it might make sense to cross test it19:42
dhellmannmtreinish: ok, I'll add it to the set19:42
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annegentleHi devs - I'd love it if you'd take a minute or two to fill out the survey about contributing to OpenStack docs.20:35
annegentlehttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/136-BssH-OxjVo8vNoOD-gW4x8fDFpvixbgCfeV1w_do/viewform20:35
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annegentleit's a great Friday afternoon task I'm sure20:35
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flashgordondhellmann: so follow up to the translation discussion, is there a way to turn it off all together?21:08
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dhellmannto turn off translation? good question21:08
flashgordonbeing it has an overhead and many folks may just not care (leave it on by default of course)21:09
flashgordonfor example I can't imagine why dreamcompute would want to have any traslation running in there cloud21:09
dhellmannwe have lots of international users, so we would want translation for the api21:09
dhellmannbut for logging, yeah, we don't need that21:10
flashgordonoh right, but yeah all logging21:10
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flashgordonwill the translation domains work support that?21:10
dhellmannwe could certainly make it do that, but I don't think there's a way to turn it off now21:10
dhellmannthat's a good idea, though21:10
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dhellmannwe could make those marker functions no-ops if log translation is disabled21:11
dhellmannI'll file a blueprint for that21:11
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flashgordonawesome thanks, hopefully it should be a pretty straight forward blueprint21:12
dhellmannhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/option-to-disable-log-translation21:12
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flashgordonlooks good, it may be worth mentioning this makes mroe sense when using translation domains (or whatever they are called)21:13
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dhellmannyeah, when gettextutils moves to a library we will need a factory to create those translation functions instead of importing them (since they have to have the domain inserted into them), and so when that "no-log-translation" flag is set the factory could return lambdas21:13
* flashgordon is looking forward to all the exciting oslo work in juno21:14
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dhellmannme, too :-)21:15
flashgordondhellmann: does this look right https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85443/1/nova/cmd/api.py21:20
flashgordonto make nova-api use lazy translation?21:20
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flashgordondhellmann: I didn't expect it to pass21:21
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dhellmannflashgordon: it does, but I'm not sure if that should be run before or after logging.setup() -- did you look at that?21:21
flashgordondhellmann: I did not21:22
dhellmannI don't know off the top of my head how those tie together, so that's something to check21:22
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flashgordonany projects use enable_lazy21:22
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flashgordonahh ceilometer has it before21:23
flashgordonright after they do gettextutils.install with lazy=True ;)21:24
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dhellmannconfusion abounds!21:26
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dhellmann:-)21:26
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annegentleflashgordon: sdague: docs peeps are quite concerned with https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1298640 dansmith might have more insight?21:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1298640 in nova "nova network-vif-plugged event fails with 400 from n-api" [Undecided,New]21:26
flashgordondhellmann: I'll try before and see what happens21:27
dhellmannflashgordon: sounds good21:27
flashgordonannegentle: ask Dan and mriedem  in nova room21:27
annegentleflashgordon: ah yep ok21:27
annegentleflashgordon: who's mriedem again? (I always read that as Mr. Diem.)21:28
flashgordonannegentle: Matt Riedemann21:28
flashgordonMatt Riedemann21:29
flashgordonhttps://launchpad.net/~mriedem21:29
annegentleflashgordon: got it, thanks21:29
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sdagueannegentle: what's the specific docs concern on this failure?21:30
mtreinishflashgordon: not to be confused with me...21:30
mtreinishthat happens way too often21:30
mtreinish:)21:30
flashgordonmtreinish: hah yeah21:30
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annegentlesdague: I think either the workaround is yucky or the resulting dependencies are unlikely21:31
annegentlesdague: trying to get to the bottom of that myself21:31
sdagueannegentle: cool, no problem21:31
sdagueso realize it was a late cycle fix for basically giant amounts of silent failures21:31
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annegentlesdague: oh more context, workaround in the commit message in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75253/29 is the "yuck"21:32
annegentlesdague: that's good context21:32
sdagueit was determined that the root cause of most of the neutron failures was there was no signalling mechanism for neutron to ever tell nova the network was good21:32
annegentlesdague: cry yiyi21:33
annegentlesdague: or is it Chri ai yi21:33
annegentlesdague: ok good to knwo21:33
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sdagueso the nova guests would try to dhcp before there was a network21:33
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sdagueand in many cases they would have given up after their 5th dhcp attempt before neutron plummed the network21:34
sdagueespecially if neutron was being asked to bring up more than one network at once21:34
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sdaguethen the guest would fail to ever get an address21:34
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Sam-I-Amhello21:35
Sam-I-Amannegentle: here now21:36
annegentlehey Sam-I-Am21:36
annegentlesdague: Sam-I-Am is trying to figure out the configs but still getting the bug21:37
annegentleoh wait, Sam-I-Am how about #openstack-nova?21:37
Sam-I-Amoops21:37
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mriedemwhat's going on?22:25
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