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| jamielennox | lifeless: i heard a rumour that you were managing the pycon-au openstack miniconf? | 02:25 |
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| lifeless | jamielennox: indeed, me and jhesketh | 02:26 |
| lifeless | jamielennox: going to come and give a talk ? | 02:26 |
| jamielennox | lifeless: any idea what you are looking for in presentations? i didn't attend last year but my understanding was there was a fair mix of high vs low level | 02:27 |
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| jamielennox | lifeless: i'm about a 5 minute walk from the venue, i feel i probably should | 02:27 |
| lifeless | jamielennox: we're casting a wide net | 02:27 |
| lifeless | jamielennox: anything you feel strongly about or would like to share would be a good candidate | 02:27 |
| lifeless | we expect users/deployers/devs to all be present | 02:27 |
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| jamielennox | ok, but that at least means i shouldn't go for anything to heavy on the dev & upcoming front | 02:29 |
| lifeless | there are several other miniconfs on concurrently | 02:29 |
| lifeless | so if a particular talk doesn't grab everyone, thats ok | 02:29 |
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| jhesketh | jamielennox: I'd love to see heavy on the dev+upcoming front | 02:30 |
| jhesketh | in fact, I suspect our audience is going to be more geared towards those familiar with openstack than not. ie, people at the miniconf are going to have an interest (more general talks like 'what is openstack' landed in the main programme) | 02:31 |
| jhesketh | *main pyconau programme | 02:31 |
| lifeless | yup | 02:31 |
| lifeless | agree | 02:31 |
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| lifeless | besides which | 02:31 |
| lifeless | and this is important | 02:32 |
| lifeless | folk running conferences pick stuff they'd like to see themselves | 02:32 |
| lifeless | :) | 02:32 |
| jamielennox | fair enough, ok so possibly submit a range of things and see what sticks | 02:32 |
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| lifeless | that'd be grand | 02:32 |
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| jamielennox | ok, i've got a week or two still to think about topics | 02:33 |
| jamielennox | give me a shout if you need any help, either being local (not sure where jhesketh is) or in general | 02:34 |
| jhesketh | jamielennox: awesome :-). I got your email on the meetup page too, thanks for offering!@ | 02:35 |
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| jhesketh | I'll let you know if we need some help on the ground | 02:35 |
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| jamielennox | ok, mikal owned that one so i thought it might have just been thrown up for the meetup audience | 02:36 |
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| JoeHazzers | here's a good one | 07:57 |
| JoeHazzers | is there a list of service names for devstack? | 07:57 |
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| kashyapk_ | I usually find the ones I want individually from the dev docs. But yes, good one this. | 08:34 |
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| vishalcdac | Would like to know what is the significance of enabling internationalization for debug logging! "Internationalization" section of cinder developer documentation specifies "debug log" as an example while on the other hand it says "user-facing strings" in log messages. So is it kind of documentation bug or there is convention to enable internationalization for log messages irrespective of log-level. | 11:00 |
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| dhellmann | vishalcdac: you may have hit on some old documentation; we changed the logging/translation policies recently | 11:03 |
| dhellmann | vishalcdac: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LoggingStandards describes the new standards | 11:04 |
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| vishalcdac | @dhellmann: Thanks. cinder developer documentation http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/il8n.html needs to updated accordingly... | 11:16 |
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| dhellmann | vishalcdac: thanks, we'll get that as part of the port to oslo.i18n | 11:41 |
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| mriedem | gordc: hey for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1321826 there are two unit tests listed but looks like different fails | 17:44 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1321826 in ceilometer "periodic notifier unit test failure" [Medium,In progress] | 17:44 |
| mriedem | gordc: can we separate those into separate bugs so we can fingerprint them with e-r separately? | 17:44 |
| mriedem | because one shows up in the check queue only (the original report in the bug) but the other (test_notification_service) shows up in the gate | 17:45 |
| mriedem | anteaya: ^ | 17:45 |
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| gordc | mriedem: sure. i can create another bug for TestRealNotification ut | 17:47 |
| mriedem | gordc: thanks | 17:47 |
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| gordc | mriedem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1327344 | 17:50 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1327344 in ceilometer "notification test failure in gate" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:50 |
| mriedem | gordc: thanks | 17:50 |
| gordc | np | 17:50 |
| * anteaya will adjust her e-r patches | 17:50 | |
| anteaya | thanks gordc | 17:50 |
| gordc | thanks for looking at e-r. | 17:51 |
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| anteaya | np, mriedem is a great teacher | 17:52 |
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| reed | it's community office hour time, ask me anything | 18:06 |
| clarkb | reed: (tell me if this is abusing the hour but ...) would it be possible to make shirt design winner shirts available at summits? | 18:07 |
| reed | clarkb, (that's a perfectly fine question) ... I don't manage the inventory myself but yes, we should | 18:08 |
| clarkb | awesome | 18:09 |
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| clarkb | the openstack logo fractal shirt is awesome | 18:09 |
| reed | clarkb, sending an email to events@openstack.org would be the place to send such suggestions | 18:09 |
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| reed | which one? last year's? the light blue one? | 18:09 |
| clarkb | ya the light blue one | 18:10 |
| clarkb | I haven't even seen the current one because not at summit :) | 18:10 |
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| reed | clarkb, you'll see it in Portland I think | 18:15 |
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| reed | who here answers questions on Ask OpenStack? | 18:18 |
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| devoid | hi keystone devs, I am wondering if you can clarify this missing API call, which is exposed in the client but appears like it will never work... | 18:32 |
| devoid | https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/v2_0/roles.py#L49 | 18:33 |
| devoid | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/assignment/controllers.py#L191 | 18:33 |
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| devoid | First question is, why declare tenant_id as an optional argument in the client if calling it without will just raise a 501 error? | 18:35 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, original design decision in v2.o0 | 18:36 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, and if you look at the call that is made when you don't specify tenant, it calls the API against /user/ not tentant | 18:36 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, ah and both call the same thing. | 18:37 |
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| morganfainberg | interesting. | 18:37 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, i think this is strictly a hold over of a design decision waaaaaaaaaay back in the day | 18:38 |
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| devoid | That makes sense. Although it's funny, the error is also raised if you try to remove the role. | 18:39 |
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| devoid | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/assignment/controllers.py#L258 | 18:39 |
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| devoid | So you're basically forcing operators who made use of user-only roles to manually edit the db. | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, in that second case it would be if a role had been assigned to a user | 18:40 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, not a role assigned to a user/tenant combination | 18:40 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, ahh so here is the issue: if you don't specify a tenant_id, how do you know which tenant the user/role combo is meant for | 18:41 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, i'm not sure how you got user / notenant role assignments | 18:42 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, as far as i know, we've never supported role assignments w/o a tenant | 18:42 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, so if somehow someone is creating assignments that are tenantless (and domain-less in v3) I'd classify that as a bug, and not intended | 18:43 |
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| devoid | right, but folks still have keystone data from way back in bexar so they might have these in a non-bugged form. | 18:45 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, i think you'd be unable to migrate the DB to icehouse tbh. | 18:45 |
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| devoid | I would expect that the one method that would succeed would be remove_role_from_user, unless there's a migrate script that handles this alread. | 18:45 |
| morganfainberg | there might be a migrate | 18:46 |
| morganfainberg | let me check the schema... if there isn't a migrate... we need to wedge something in :P | 18:46 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, ah we do drop any unknown grants in 039 migration | 18:48 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, i think | 18:49 |
| devoid | morganfainberg, ok, cool. Must be a wart on our existing db data (lots of history of people manually editing it years back). | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, i'm 2x checking but i'm having to step backwards to make sure i see how we got here. | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, you might have a legitimate bug that we need to fix in one of the migration scripts | 18:50 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, what schema version are you on? | 18:52 |
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| devoid | morganfainberg, don't spend too much time on it. I just initially expected roles.list_roles(user_id, tenant=None) to list all roles in all tenants. Then found the 501 error and docs for it. Then checked my DB and found one suspicious user that did have a role w/ no tenant. | 18:53 |
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| devoid | morganfainberg, 36 | 18:54 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, sure. my guess is it's just a one off, havana (possibly grizzly) and later i am fairly certain you'd not be able to create it through the api | 18:54 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, ok so, havana. | 18:54 |
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| devoid | morganfainberg, from an api / code perspective it seems weird that you can't *delete* the bad data. But if it get's dropped with a migrate that's cool as well. | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | in icehouse i know it wouldn't be possible. i think the role might either be dropped or would become a domain role grant | 18:55 |
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| morganfainberg | devoid, domain-role grant on default domain in this case. | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, it's an odd edge case, most deployments didn't start that far back :) | 18:56 |
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| devoid | morganfainberg, :-) | 18:58 |
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