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| kashyapk | Hi devs. ANyone there? | 06:52 |
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| k4n0 | kashyap, sup | 06:53 |
| k4n0 | kashyapk, sup | 06:53 |
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| kashyapk | hi k4n0. I was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98263/ | 06:55 |
| kashyapk | I'm not able to understand the failing test in Jenkins. Also, what does "Merge if necessary" mean? | 06:55 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: Hi are you around? | 08:51 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, hi, what's up? | 08:51 |
| Alexei_987 | markmc: do you have some time to chat about oslo.messaging? | 08:51 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, it depends how long it takes, what's up? | 08:52 |
| Alexei_987 | markmc: I've found out that current lib has very poor performance | 08:52 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: it can read around 600-700 msg/s on my PC | 08:52 |
| Alexei_987 | markmc: while pure driver implementation without connection pool and eventlet reads 7000-8000 msg/s | 08:53 |
| Alexei_987 | markmc: I have some idea of why it can happen | 08:53 |
| Alexei_987 | markmc: however I'm really dissapointed in current architecture of the lib | 08:54 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, do you mean oslo.messaging versus oslo-incubator rpc ? | 08:54 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: I mean oslo.messaging vs kombu driver | 08:54 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, i.e. is this a performance regression versus oslo-incubator ? | 08:54 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: I'm not sure it's a regression since I didn't measure oslo-incubator | 08:54 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: It's just slow for me on olso.messaging | 08:55 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, ok | 08:55 |
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| gsagie | Hi Mark, do you happen to use pycharm ? i am having some trouble with debugging neutron in devstack and was wondering if you know why | 08:55 |
| Alexei_987 | markmc: So what I would like to do is to apply series of refactorings to simplify library structure + apply performance fixes | 08:55 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: what is the best way to discuss exact plans with you? | 08:57 |
| Alexei_987 | markmc: I can show you why it's slow.. but I prefer to fix architectural problems first :) | 08:58 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, sorry, was trying to find this: http://people.apache.org/~gsim/oslo.messaging_scalability.pdf | 08:58 |
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| markmc | Alexei_987, best thing to do is write up your findings and ideas and post to openstack-dev under [oslo] | 08:59 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, thanks for looking into this | 08:59 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: Ok will do | 09:00 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: do you have a lot of contributors lately? | 09:00 |
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| Alexei_987 | markmc: can I + some other guys pop in to help fixing this? | 09:01 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, contributions are always welcome | 09:01 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, there is a review backlog though | 09:01 |
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| markmc | Alexei_987, so helping with reviews will help get any changes merged | 09:02 |
| Alexei_987 | markmc: Ok I'll try to help with reviews too | 09:02 |
| markmc | Alexei_987, thanks | 09:02 |
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| kevinbenton | markmc: ping | 09:08 |
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| markmc | kevinbenton, yep? http://blogs.gnome.org/markmc/2014/02/20/naked-pings/ | 09:09 |
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| gsagie | heh | 09:10 |
| kevinbenton | markmc: interesting, i shall repent :-) | 09:11 |
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| kevinbenton | markmc: and to top it off, I’m sorry but I messaged the wrong person (wasn’t paying attention to the channel) | 09:11 |
| kevinbenton | markmc: today is not my best IRC day :-( | 09:11 |
| markmc | kevinbenton, ok | 09:11 |
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| lvh | Hi! | 09:32 |
| lvh | I'm trying to get my first patch into gerrit and I screwed up :-( | 09:32 |
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| lvh | When running (copy-pasting...) the git commands for updating master, I forgot that that checked out master and didn't go back to my topic branch. | 09:33 |
| lvh | so, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98718/ was a commit on master. I abandoned that change, cherry-picked the commit onto the topic branch, but now I can't git review it because the change ids are identical. | 09:33 |
| lvh | Do I just make a bogus commit or something? | 09:34 |
| markmc | there's no need to abandon the change | 09:35 |
| markmc | try | 09:35 |
| markmc | $> git review -d 98718 | 09:35 |
| markmc | $> git fetch origin | 09:35 |
| markmc | $> git rebase origin/master | 09:35 |
| markmc | $> git review | 09:35 |
| markmc | you might need to click "restore change" first in the UI | 09:36 |
| markmc | and I may have misunderstood | 09:36 |
| lvh | git review -d put me on review/laurens_van_houtven/98718 | 09:36 |
| markmc | what was the name of your topic branch? | 09:37 |
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| lvh | bug/1256009 | 09:37 |
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| markmc | $> git branch -M bug/1256009 bug/1256009-orig | 09:37 |
| markmc | $> git branch -M review/laurens_van_houtven/98718 bug/1256009 | 09:37 |
| markmc | $> git review | 09:37 |
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| lvh | ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/publish/master/bug/1256009 (no new changes) | 09:38 |
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| markmc | then you're fine, just restore your commit | 09:39 |
| markmc | unless I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to do | 09:39 |
| markmc | what's wrong with the review you abandoned? | 09:39 |
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| lvh | markmc: I made the commit on master instead of bug/1256009 | 09:40 |
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| markmc | lvh, the only problem that causes is the "topic" is empty in the review | 09:40 |
| lvh | markmc: There was something in the Gerrit workflow page that warned against it; I presumed that the local branch I committed it on somehow affected Gerrit. | 09:40 |
| lvh | markmc: Gotcha. What should I set it to? | 09:41 |
| markmc | lvh, that's not something to worry about, topic really only helps when grouping multiple commits together | 09:41 |
| markmc | lvh, set it to bug/1256009 | 09:41 |
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| markmc | lvh, literally that's the only difference using a topic branch makes to gerrit | 09:42 |
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| lvh | markmc: Cool! | 09:42 |
| lvh | markmc: Thanks a lot for the help! | 09:42 |
| markmc | lvh, np at all | 09:42 |
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| lvh | markmc: how about the Branch: master? | 09:43 |
| lvh | on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98718/ | 09:43 |
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| lvh | Is that the target branch? | 09:44 |
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| markmc | lvh, that's fine, that refers to the remote branch | 09:44 |
| lvh | Cool :-) So 98718 is in the review queue and good to go? | 09:44 |
| markmc | lvh, i.e. you want your patch merged into the master branch | 09:44 |
| markmc | lvh, you should remove your workflow:-1 | 09:44 |
| lvh | markmc: Oh. I marked it as such because it's WIP: it's missing tests and I couldn't figure out where to add them, and it's missing implementation for v3 | 09:45 |
| markmc | lvh, also https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages is worth reading | 09:45 |
| lvh | markmc: Does WIP mean "don't review at all"? | 09:46 |
| markmc | lvh, oh right, WIP is fine - sorry | 09:46 |
| markmc | lvh, people are unlikely to review a WIP patch, there are so many other patches which need reviewing | 09:46 |
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| lvh | I was hoping to make the git commit message ready for actual merging with --amend/rebase once the WIP part is gone | 09:46 |
| lvh | Ah. | 09:46 |
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| markmc | cool | 09:46 |
| lvh | markmc: Anyway, you've been super helpful, this is probably the best time I've ever had when first navigating a project's contribution workflow | 09:49 |
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| lvh | markmc: Thanks! | 09:49 |
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| markmc | lvh, cool, glad you're enjoying it so far :) | 09:49 |
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| sdague | eglynn: is there an easy switch to turn off polling in ceilometer? | 14:45 |
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| eglynn | sdague: the polling logic is controlled in the pipeline.yaml | 14:46 |
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| eglynn | sdague: so for example setting a meter filter to something that won't match anything will have the same effect as disbaling polling | 14:47 |
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| eglynn | sdague: e.g. https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/etc/ceilometer/pipeline.yaml#L6 ... s/*/will_not_match_any_pollsters/ | 14:48 |
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| eglynn | sdague: ... similarly for the other "meters" filters on lines 12, 18-21, 27-30 | 14:49 |
| sdague | is the pipeline.yaml only for the polling based data? | 14:49 |
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| sdague | maybe that's my confusion. How much of the data collection is consuming the notifications, and how much is polling? | 14:49 |
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| sdague | also, is interval 600 mean 10 minutes between polls? | 14:50 |
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| eglynn | sdague: the pipeline source definition drive the polling logic | 14:50 |
| eglynn | sgordon: ... yes, 600s is the out-of-the-box default | 14:50 |
| eglynn | sdague: ^^^ | 14:50 |
| eglynn | sgordon: sorry for noise, bad tab completion | 14:50 |
| sdague | so if we just deleted the pipeline definition entirely, it would prevent polling? | 14:51 |
| eglynn | sdague: but the transformation rules defined in the pipeline.yaml will also be used in the notification handling | 14:51 |
| sdague | ah, so we still need the sinks part? | 14:51 |
| eglynn | sdague: ... hmmm, we may not deal with the missing pipeline.yaml case very gracefully | 14:52 |
| eglynn | sdague: ... https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/pipeline.py#L525 | 14:52 |
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| sdague | eglynn: ok, that's fine. Long term it might be nice to separate the sinks from the sources. But at least that gives me enough of an idea about what to do to try running without polling. | 14:55 |
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| sgordon | eglynn, i shake my fist | 14:59 |
| sgordon | ;p | 14:59 |
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| sdague | eglynn / sgordon - it also looks like the occurance of ceilometer failing unit tests is pretty high, and core reviewers are just recheck no bug on it - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98295/ :( | 15:19 |
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| tsufiev | hi there! does anybody know how the problem with conflicting options to oslo logger is solved? http://paste.openstack.org/show/83420/ | 16:02 |
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| tsufiev | i was told that it is a known problem, but nobody knows the right solution | 16:02 |
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| jordanP | tsufiev, you usually have to remove all the *.pyc files from your system | 16:11 |
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| notmyname | ttx: good day to you. can we chat about next swift release? | 16:22 |
| notmyname | ttx: I'd prefer a high-bandwidth medium (eg skype/phone) | 16:22 |
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| cburgess | morganfainberg: *ping* | 22:29 |
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| morganfainberg | cburgess, pong | 22:30 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, good vacation? | 22:30 |
| cburgess | morganfainberg Got a minute for an sqllachemey question? | 22:30 |
| cburgess | Yes, very. Thanks. | 22:30 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, of course | 22:31 |
| cburgess | morganfainberg There is an option you can pass to a query called joinedload and joinedload_all. I'm not entirely clear on what those do. It almost seems like it causes and outer join with the table passed as an argument on the call? e.g. joinedload_all('instances') would cause and outer join against the instances table? | 22:32 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, yeah i think that makes it return those values as part of the query | 22:33 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, results | 22:33 |
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| morganfainberg | cburgess, so <result> will contain the instances data | 22:33 |
| cburgess | So my question is... how does it do the join? If you just give it a table then what is it joining on? Or is it litterarly just joining each row in the results to each row in the table listed? | 22:34 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, oh thats a good question... | 22:34 |
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| cburgess | morganfainberg I'm pretty close to writting a test script with sqlalchemy in debug mode so it prints the SQL and the full result set just so I can tell but wanted to check to see if you knew exactly how this worked before I went and did something drastic. | 22:35 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_9/orm/loading.html#using-loader-strategies-lazy-loading-eager-loading | 22:35 |
| cburgess | Yeah read that... wasn't 100% clear ot me. | 22:35 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, http://pasteraw.com/1fdh9mdboft1vx92ma7s4wrxjhxq9a8 | 22:35 |
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| cburgess | Oh... | 22:36 |
| cburgess | I see | 22:36 |
| cburgess | That makes sense. | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | it looks to be based on the PK of the table | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | ? | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | yeah | 22:36 |
| cburgess | It looks for an implicity forgien key. | 22:36 |
| cburgess | Yeah | 22:36 |
| cburgess | OK... | 22:36 |
| cburgess | That makes some sense then. | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | you can do relationship queries in the ORM (look further down on that page) | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | defining explicit relationships for loading | 22:36 |
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| cburgess | OK... I think I see how this might be working then. | 22:37 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, glad to help | 22:38 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, ah coffee, so good. well tea now. | 22:38 |
| cburgess | and I see my confusion. Its doing that joinedload on a query that is pulling in another relationship. So the actual relationship to the instances table is in a table defined in a relationship in the model. Ugh... | 22:38 |
| cburgess | morganfainberg Yeah I got the arnold palmer today from cold brew. | 22:39 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, yeah it's not straightforward until you look at the SQL | 22:39 |
| morganfainberg | cburgess, ahh i'm camping at intelligentsia for a couple hours | 22:39 |
| morganfainberg | post lunch | 22:39 |
| cburgess | Nice | 22:39 |
| morganfainberg | till laptop battery says it's out :P | 22:39 |
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| PaulWay | mikal: you around? | 23:43 |
| mikal | PaulWay: yep | 23:43 |
| PaulWay | Yay! | 23:44 |
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| PaulWay | I've got a day off work due to sore throat. | 23:44 |
| PaulWay | Is there any point in me trying to debug my devstack install as it is? | 23:45 |
| PaulWay | Or should I blow it away, install Ubuntu 12.04 and try again? | 23:45 |
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| mikal | PaulWay: I'd blow it away to be honest | 23:48 |
| mikal | I just sent you the details of how to see it its working as well | 23:48 |
| PaulWay | Righto. | 23:48 |
| PaulWay | Give me a moment :-) | 23:48 |
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| PaulWay | OK, Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.04.4? Desktop or server? (Using 64-bit as I'm running on an AMD E-350). | 23:50 |
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| PaulWay | (Yes, it has VME and PAE and is capable of running KVM) | 23:51 |
| mikal | Server is what I used. You can always add ubuntu-desktop later if you need to. | 23:51 |
| PaulWay | Righto. | 23:51 |
| mikal | Whatever the latest release of 12.04 is should be fine | 23:51 |
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| PaulWay | I'm trying to reduce the round trip time of installing a new version each time I get it wrong :-) | 23:52 |
| mikal | Heh | 23:52 |
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