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| zhiyan | viktors: i tested that change in my local, but i can't see any issues you mentioned before. | 09:05 |
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| zhiyan | viktors: do you think i can ping you back later? i'm a little distracted。 | 09:06 |
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| viktors | zhiyan: hm, I see a big diff in jenkins tests | 09:17 |
| zhiyan | viktors: yes, i see it too | 09:17 |
| zhiyan | viktors: so interested in if my env missed some configuration | 09:18 |
| viktors | zhiyan: it's strange for me, that you can't reproduce it locally | 09:18 |
| viktors | zhiyan: are you sure, that this test was not skipped? | 09:19 |
| zhiyan | viktors: actually glance test use sqllite by default https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/tests/unit/test_migrations.conf#L4 | 09:19 |
| zhiyan | of course not :) | 09:19 |
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| zhiyan | viktors: (but i configured migration tests use mysql instead) | 09:20 |
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| viktors | zhiyan: it was not essential ) | 09:21 |
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| viktors | zhiyan: can you check with the following command - tox -e py26 -- glance.tests.unit.test_migrations.ModelsMigrationsSyncMySQL.test_models_sync ? | 09:22 |
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| zhiyan | viktors: http://paste.openstack.org/show/89953/ | 09:29 |
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| zhiyan | viktors: http://paste.openstack.org/show/89954/ | 09:31 |
| * viktors checking | 09:31 | |
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| viktors | zhiyan: can you connect to mysql with user openstack_citest and password openstack_citest ? | 09:32 |
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| zhiyan | viktors: oh? there's a hard code for those two kind of migration test cases?? | 09:34 |
| zhiyan | my mysql has not that account | 09:34 |
| viktors | zhiyan: yes, this user-password uses in OS project for testing | 09:35 |
| viktors | zhiyan: see for example Glance tests - https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/tests/unit/test_migrations.py#L82-L102 | 09:35 |
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| viktors | zhiyan: also user openstack_citest must have permissions to create databases | 09:36 |
| viktors | zhiyan: sorry, will back in a hour | 09:36 |
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| zhiyan | viktors|afk: ok. and i will see those logic. actually i provided connect account in config already. | 09:46 |
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| ajayaa | Hi. Openstack projects such as trove are moving to keystonemiddleware project. Shouldn't it be added to global-requirements.txt? | 09:53 |
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| viktors | zhiyan: ok, please inform me, after you will run this test locally | 10:45 |
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| claudiub | dansmith: hello | 10:57 |
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| jruzicka | mordred, so about pbr. There are basically 3 problems. | 12:56 |
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| jruzicka | 1) enforced version checking. Sinc Fedora/RHEL packages aren't moving at speed of light, it often happens we get lower then required version of a requirement present and it would work fine, but client throws "requirement version X >= Y isn't met" | 12:58 |
| jruzicka | we solve that by rm -rf {test-,}requirements.txt | 12:58 |
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| jruzicka | 2) runtime dependency. having "python BUILD reasonableness" installed at runtime just for the versioning functionality is just bad. | 12:59 |
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| jruzicka | we solve that by nuking pbr runtime dep, usually few lines a la https://github.com/redhat-openstack/python-neutronclient/commit/d161171230e3206b240cd34b406e6660c3c8c6d2 | 13:00 |
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| jruzicka | 3) downloading pip requirements on build. That can be disabled by ENV var, but we solve it by above reqs.txt nuke in one | 13:01 |
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| jruzicka | pbr makes sense for development but it's not something user would want to have on his machine | 13:01 |
| jruzicka | thus I'm interested why was oslo.version abandoned? | 13:01 |
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| jruzicka | I'd be interested in ressurecting it. | 13:02 |
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| dhellmann | jruzicka, mordred: we should probably just use pkg_resources to get the version at runtime, instead of depending on pbr or oslo.version to scan the git tags | 13:03 |
| jruzicka | dhellmann, well it's also pkg_resources that enforces the versions | 13:04 |
| jruzicka | but that conflicts with distro package manager work heavily | 13:04 |
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| jruzicka | but `rm -rf requirements.txt` does solve that. I'm interested in not maintaining these patches to nuke pbr. | 13:04 |
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| jruzicka | setuptools.setup( | 13:05 |
| jruzicka | - setup_requires=['pbr'], | 13:05 |
| jruzicka | pbr=True) | 13:05 |
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| jruzicka | IOW I'd like pbr to be really a build dep only | 13:05 |
| jruzicka | strictly | 13:05 |
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| jruzicka | which isn't the case ATM | 13:06 |
| dhellmann | jruzicka: well, I just meant doing something like pkg_resources.get_distribution('foo').version instead of pbr.version.VersionInfo('python-neutronclient').version_string() | 13:06 |
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| jruzicka | dhellmann, right, that was working great before ;) | 13:06 |
| dhellmann | jruzicka: although the results are slightly different, since pbr strips alpha tags I think | 13:06 |
| jruzicka | dhellmann, if there is some logic required for versions, which isn't all that unreasonable, then stick it to oslo.version and let pbr be pBr ;) | 13:07 |
| dhellmann | jruzicka: yeah, that makes sense | 13:08 |
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| viktors | zhiyan: hi! Can I hope to get an update from you today? | 13:13 |
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| zhiyan | viktors: sorry, can I verify this on my tomorrow? today is a little busy. | 13:13 |
| viktors | zhiyan: yes, sure. Sorry for troubling you | 13:14 |
| zhiyan | viktors: thanks! | 13:14 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: jruzicka why does it help for the pkg_resources version code to be in a different library? | 14:22 |
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| mordred | if the thing it's doing is 'bad' ... it'll still be bad if we move it | 14:23 |
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| mordred | also, what is it about pbr, which is a TINT library which makes it so offensive to be installed at runtime? OpenStack installs like 250 Python packages | 14:25 |
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| mordred | a pbr rpm should have zero depends and do nothing on an rpm system but delegate to pkg_resources | 14:26 |
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| SpamapS_ | mordred: the versioning cow is sacred | 14:27 |
| mordred | I mean, I'm fine with splitting things again, but it seems it just actually would cause more not less work | 14:27 |
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| mordred | SpamapS_: but the versioning cow has a disable at buildtime flag ... | 14:28 |
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| mordred | which behaves just like --single-version-externally-managed | 14:28 |
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| mordred | which is already needed by Python things for setuptools to not enforce versions with easy_install | 14:29 |
| mordred | in distro packages | 14:29 |
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| SpamapS_ | mordred: yeah. I think pbr just scares people who think versions should be hand curated in volcanic soil with free range chicken fertilizer | 14:30 |
| SpamapS_ | (I am the opposite. Bring on the GMO versions) | 14:31 |
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| mordred | well, honestly, I think there is a different thing here - and I'd like to try to cover it | 14:32 |
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| mordred | jruzicka: in response to your points ... | 14:33 |
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| mordred | jruzicka: 1) nuking requirements.txt is not necessary, you can just set SKIP_PIP_INSTALL=1 | 14:34 |
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| mordred | jruzicka: this covers 3 as well (the logic paths are the same) - although it's possible you might still want to provide --single-version-externally-managed to setup.py - but honestly normal python packaging tools should do that automatically | 14:35 |
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| mordred | jruzicka: as for 2) is it the _name_ that's a problem? or is there actually some problem with the package at runtime that's causing actual problems? | 14:36 |
| mordred | dhellmann, jruzicka: also, we _do_ just use pkg_resources to get the version at runtime | 14:37 |
| mordred | dhellmann, jruzicka: that would be the same in oslo.version - but we can _still_ do that if pkg_resources has been bypassed for version enforcement | 14:37 |
| mordred | actually, pbr does _not_ do version enforcement | 14:37 |
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| mordred | that's a result of entries having been placed in install_requires in setup.py (which is what --single-version-externally-managed bypasses) | 14:38 |
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| jruzicka | mordred, thing is when we don't nuke requirements.txt, pkg_resources will force the versions | 14:40 |
| jruzicka | so we have a working requirement but the client isn't allowed to run becaus arbitrary string comparison failed | 14:40 |
| mordred | that is a bug then that you should file | 14:40 |
| mordred | it is expected that some combination of SKIP_PIP_INSTALL and --single-version-externally-managed should have the behavior you want | 14:41 |
| jruzicka | well it's not meeting the requirement from reqs.txt so from devel point of view, that makes sense | 14:41 |
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| mordred | a dev isn't likely going to set --single-version-externally-managed | 14:41 |
| jruzicka | right | 14:42 |
| mordred | I mean in the packaging code ... you should not need to delete those files to achieve the behavior you want, and if you do have to do that, it's a bug | 14:42 |
| jruzicka | that's my point of view, yes | 14:42 |
| mordred | cool. so - just for clarity, you're saying that you've set both of the above in the rpm spec and you still wound up with dependency version enforcement? | 14:43 |
| jruzicka | it is about the name, actually and it is about semantics. You don't want to require muild requires in runtime | 14:43 |
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| jruzicka | even if renamed to "python banana requirements", I still feel that it does many build related things and see no reason why to include it runtime | 14:43 |
| jruzicka | I mean only runtime thing is the version | 14:44 |
| jruzicka | no? | 14:44 |
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| mordred | I don't _personally_ care about that given the massive amount of other dependencies - I mean, this is not a lightweight system we're talking about here | 14:44 |
| mordred | but - I mean, if packaging two libraries puts you in a happier place, I'm fine with it | 14:45 |
| mordred | I abandoned that because it means an additional package - and since pbr is _already_ a thing that's required to be pacakged, it just seemed like more work to me | 14:45 |
| mordred | for a _Very_ small amount of code | 14:45 |
| jruzicka | so the fact that the system is fat doesn't sound like a reason to not try to make it as slim as possible ;) | 14:46 |
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| mordred | heh | 14:46 |
| mordred | sure | 14:46 |
| mordred | :) | 14:46 |
| mordred | it's just a tiny amount of code, so it seems like a bunch of work for no actual gain | 14:46 |
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| mordred | but seriously - the pbr hatred is so strong if I can do _anything_ to get people to stop flipping out about it, I'm in :) | 14:47 |
| jruzicka | Also we got burned by pbr in the past several time (it wasn't always pbr's fault to be fair - setuptools and pkg_resources) and the mood towards it is very bad :) | 14:47 |
| jruzicka | right, right | 14:47 |
| jruzicka | it's almost politics :-p | 14:47 |
| mordred | yah. those are almost all setuptools/pkg_resources - and we got burned too :) | 14:47 |
| mordred | I mean, setuptools had a very bad run recently | 14:47 |
| jruzicka | everyone got burned by setuptools, yes | 14:47 |
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| mordred | we've been pretty stable for a while now in pbr land | 14:48 |
| jruzicka | yeah, that's true. | 14:48 |
| mordred | so I'm fine with re-visiting oslo.version ... but just so you know that's going to be several rungs down on my list -so if it's important, someone else may want to jump on actually getting it done | 14:49 |
| jruzicka | So one bug is "make OpenStack projects packagable without nuking files/enforcing versions" | 14:49 |
| mordred | if you wait on me, you may be waiting a bit :) | 14:49 |
| jruzicka | nah, I'm gonna do that myself | 14:49 |
| mordred | awesome | 14:49 |
| mordred | I'm excited then :) | 14:50 |
| jruzicka | :) | 14:50 |
| jruzicka | second one is "split oslo.version from pbr" which is more like optional to please my fellow packager :) | 14:50 |
| jruzicka | *packagers | 14:50 |
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| jruzicka | mordred, It's not exactly pressing issue, but I'm strongly motivated to get rid of that patch so I'll get something sooner or later ;) | 14:51 |
| mordred | jruzicka: I'll look in to the first one - I'm very unhappy about that being an issue | 14:51 |
| mordred | it _Should_ have been fixed ages ago | 14:51 |
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| jruzicka | mordred, I believe it's invisible to devs using devstack | 14:52 |
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| jruzicka | it only pops it's ugly head out when you have system with own package management and not-latest packages | 14:52 |
| jruzicka | actually the related problem I don't know howto solve is the speed of reqs.txt bumps | 14:52 |
| jruzicka | we don't have all the packages and it's often bumped to fix a bug we just can live with (warning somewhere or python3 compat) | 14:53 |
| jruzicka | so we can't just take them as is | 14:53 |
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| mordred | yeah - it's a long standing issue several folks have wanted to do is figure out what the _actual_ minimums are | 14:54 |
| jruzicka | ideally, we'd package all, but with this dependency megatree... some compromise might be required. | 14:54 |
| jruzicka | yes! | 14:55 |
| mordred | it's ... hard | 14:55 |
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| mordred | especially since python packages don't have a real dependency graph | 14:55 |
| jruzicka | some mechanism to at least easily tell why version was bumped might be nice | 14:55 |
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| jruzicka | now the commit is "Synced with global reqs" | 14:55 |
| jruzicka | oh gee, thanks :) | 14:55 |
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| mordred | hehe | 14:59 |
| mordred | yeah. agree | 14:59 |
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| jruzicka | mordred, also, what is https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/setup.py#L29 needed for? | 15:07 |
| jruzicka | because that's adding the unwanted forced version check on pbr itself | 15:07 |
| jruzicka | == something I want to get rid off (I currently patch it out) | 15:08 |
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| mordred | you need to patch it out | 15:11 |
| mordred | that is absolutely required for the python case | 15:11 |
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| mordred | lucky for you, that file should basically never change though | 15:11 |
| rick_ | HI All. | 15:11 |
| mordred | there is a todo list item that might make you happy there | 15:11 |
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| mordred | which is that we're talking about having python setup.py sdist generate a setup.py that's self contained and does not need pbr installed for consumption | 15:12 |
| mordred | i started hacking on that but haven't gotten super far yet | 15:12 |
| jruzicka | mordred, fair enough. | 15:13 |
| mordred | but I really want that one | 15:13 |
| mordred | it's just non-trivial to implement :) | 15:13 |
| jruzicka | yeah, I can imagine that :) | 15:13 |
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| claudiub | dansmith: hello | 16:39 |
| dansmith | claudiub: hi | 16:39 |
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| claudiub | dansmith: could you please take a look at a patch? You voted -1 due to a problem, which resolved itself quickly afterwards :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108662/ | 16:40 |
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| dansmith | claudiub: you are still underneath phil's patch, so I don't think it's resolved | 16:42 |
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| claudiub | dansmith: there is no longer a dependency between his patch and mine. | 16:43 |
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| dansmith | claudiub: not according to my view in gerrit | 16:44 |
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| claudiub | dansmith: hmm, could you give me a link or something? Because I am unable to see the dependency. | 16:46 |
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| dansmith | claudiub: http://imgur.com/rOaf5hq | 16:49 |
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| rharwood | jeblair: ping | 20:47 |
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| jeblair | rharwood: pong | 20:48 |
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| rharwood | jeblair: regarding gertty, seven changes were merged on friday without acknowledgement of the problems I posted on their reviews. That number seems a bit high to me, so I'm wondering if you could tell me what I'm doing wrong? | 20:51 |
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| jeblair | rharwood: gertty is under heavy development and i am its primary developer. i plan to continue developing it up to the point where i think it is generally usable and then announce it publicly. | 20:54 |
| jeblair | rharwood: until then i plan on developing it in the way that i find most efficient. that includes no messing about with whitespace and heavy use of long chains of patches | 20:56 |
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| jeblair | rharwood: i welcome comments on changes that i put up for review, and submissions of small changes that are not likely to interfere with my ongoing work | 20:57 |
| jeblair | rharwood: i read all of your comments and responded to a few of them | 20:57 |
| rharwood | understood. Thanks. | 20:58 |
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| jeblair | rharwood: and to be up-front -- there's definitely a double standard, particularly around patch chains. i know that i'm going to merge a long series of my own patches, but i don't know that i'm going to merge all the patches other people contribute, so i have asked that patches from others be split up if they are not truly dependent. | 21:00 |
| jeblair | rharwood: i expect that, as well as other aspecs of the development methodology to change to the normal expectations around here once i announce a real release | 21:01 |
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| rharwood | jeblair: that's good to know. Thanks for explaning that, and for the time put into the software; hopefully my comments will be more helpful to you in the future. | 21:02 |
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| jeblair | rharwood: thanks for using it and looking at the changes. if whoever told you about it didn't mention it -- gertty is so pre-alpha i don't necessarily recommend you rely on it, and you may want to be prepared to debug it if something goes wrong. :) | 21:04 |
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| arosen | fungi: clarkb i was able to get around the jenkins 500 error by following this. Seems like a bug in jenkins: https://github.com/arangamani/jenkins_api_client/issues/105 | 21:04 |
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| jeblair | arosen: i think that's more or less what we do. i can't recall whether we had to examine the file or if the uuid was in the ui. i'm so used to reading the files i probably just did that. | 21:08 |
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| arosen | jeblair: I'm hitting one last issue though that when my slaves come up jenkins can't ssh into them because of the wrong ssh key location. I haven't yet figured out how to fix this :/ | 21:10 |
| arosen | do you know where that setting lives? I can change the node to be managed by a different user and then it will become active | 21:11 |
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| jeblair | arosen: /credential-store/ in the jenkins ui | 21:12 |
| jeblair | arosen: creating or updating a credential there lets you specify the key location | 21:13 |
| jeblair | arosen: we use "From the Jenkins master ~/.ssh" on our servers and we have puppet install it there | 21:13 |
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| jeblair | arosen: also, when you click the link for a credential, the uuid will be in the url | 21:13 |
| jeblair | arosen: credential-store/domain/_/credential/<UUID> | 21:14 |
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| arosen | jeblair: when i go to http://10.34.239.231:8080/credential-store/ I hve two domains Global credentials and jenkins. | 21:16 |
| arosen | I guess i should probably delete the jenkins one which might be getting in the way? | 21:16 |
| jeblair | arosen: we only have "Global" | 21:16 |
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| arosen | jeblair: k, i only have global now lets see if this works. | 21:17 |
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| arosen | jeblair: the log file says: [08/04/14 14:19:23] [SSH] Opening SSH connection to 10.34.237.165:22. hudson.AbortException: Cannot find SSH User credentials with id: null | 21:20 |
| arosen | jeblair: under the global settings i have username jenkins, description "Generated by Puppet" | 21:21 |
| arosen | private key : from a file on jenkins master: /var/lib/jenkins/.ssh/id_rsa <-- if i cat this it's the right key and i can use it via ssh -i /var/lib/jenkins/.ssh/id_rsa jenkins@host | 21:21 |
| jeblair | arosen: you may need to change the credentials in the configuration for that node | 21:21 |
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| arosen | jeblair: yup if i click on the node ->configure-save; launch slave agent it automatically works | 21:39 |
| arosen | i'd like to get it so i don't have to do that my self though. | 21:39 |
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| arosen | it's odd that when i click configure i just need to click save. I don't need to make any changes | 21:39 |
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| jeblair | arosen: if you use nodepool, it will do that for you | 21:40 |
| arosen | jeblair: i'm using nodepool | 21:41 |
| jeblair | arosen: then if you configure it to use the credential uuid from earlier, new nodes it creates should be configured correctly | 21:42 |
| arosen | jeblair: here? http://paste.openstack.org/show/90081/ | 21:43 |
| arosen | perhaps the issue is the name is arosen and I should try to migrate that to jenkins. | 21:43 |
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| jeblair | arosen: that shouldn't matter as long as arosen has permission to create nodes. that config looks correct to me. | 21:44 |
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| arosen | jeblair: woot they are now coming up live :) | 21:51 |
| arosen | Now to get the a job running the tempest stuff :) | 21:51 |
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