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| flaper87 | jogo: hey, sure. I appreaciated your email because it showed me there're still things to clarify and work on zaqar w.r.t graduation, hence my answer to your email. Re how close we are? I don't think we're far from there, we've been tracking the latest efforts for graduation here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-graduation My biggest concern right now are docs but we're getting there. | 06:43 |
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| flaper87 | jogo: w.r.t the scalability, I actually agree with you. TBH, we've been focusing on that, the scalability of the service but the community seems to have been more worried about the speed of it. | 06:44 |
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| jogo | flaper87: o/ I have a few minutes before my flight boards | 06:44 |
| flaper87 | jogo: in other words, I fully agree with you, that's our goal. | 06:45 |
| flaper87 | jogo: we've been trying to keep up with both, though. | 06:45 |
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| jogo | flaper87: well thats your goal, but it sounds like not the community | 06:45 |
| jogo | I see the use case for zaqar/amazon SQS to be simple applications that don't use a lot of messaging | 06:45 |
| jogo | zaqar should not be a replacement for a rabbitmq etc | 06:46 |
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| flaper87 | jogo: with support for multi-tenant and easy integration with mobiles, web apps, etc. | 06:46 |
| flaper87 | jogo: exactly, and it is not. | 06:46 |
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| jogo | flaper87: yup | 06:47 |
| flaper87 | jogo: believe me when I say it's been hard to make that point clear. :) | 06:47 |
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| jogo | flaper87: I bet | 06:47 |
| jogo | so two more questions: SPOFs and a 'good' oss licensed backend | 06:48 |
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| jogo | flaper87: also scale testing | 06:49 |
| flaper87 | jogo: SPOFs in Zaqar are solved by its architecture. You can add more nodes easily and have multiple backends running independently. | 06:49 |
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| flaper87 | jogo: the 'good' oss licensed backend is up for review | 06:50 |
| flaper87 | jogo: and it'll likely be merged this week | 06:50 |
| jogo | flaper87: I assumed that was the case but apparently not all projects have no SPOFs | 06:50 |
| flaper87 | jogo: And we're working on new benchmark tool now | 06:50 |
| jogo | guh flight is now 1AM (its midnight now ...) | 06:50 |
| jogo | flaper87: cool, for scale testing I imagine you will actually need a bunch of hardware to do that | 06:51 |
| flaper87 | jogo: the bench tool landed already, we already setup a new cluster and we're going to test it there | 06:51 |
| flaper87 | jogo: yeah, RAX is providing it | 06:51 |
| flaper87 | 'gently' providing it. | 06:51 |
| flaper87 | I mean, gently without '' | 06:51 |
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| flaper87 | We're testing it there and we'll get back with some numbers | 06:52 |
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| jogo | flaper87: wow nice | 06:53 |
| jogo | flaper87: I also like the use cases you guys list | 06:53 |
| flaper87 | jogo: awesome, if you have new ideas, please, let us know :D | 06:54 |
| jogo | flaper87: so honestly it looks like you guys are in better shape then ceilometer | 06:54 |
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| jogo | in terms of shaking your lackluster reputation | 06:54 |
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| jogo | Please keep in mind that we can only get "so fast" over HTTP and using Python. That being said, we expect that turning around individual requests in ~10 ms is a viable goal and we will continue striving for that. | 06:54 |
| jogo | woops pressed the wrong key, must have cut and paste | 06:55 |
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| jogo | I wonder if DBaaS would like this | 06:56 |
| flaper87 | jogo: we've been working hard to integrate with the OpenStack ecosystem and clean up the things that were not part of our main goal. New things will come later. | 06:56 |
| flaper87 | jogo: we've a use case for Trove and the guest-agent. We talked a bit at the summit | 06:56 |
| jogo | flaper87: cool | 06:56 |
| flaper87 | but they're waiting for us to graduate | 06:56 |
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| jogo | right right | 06:57 |
| jogo | anyway, I am pleasantly surprised to see how far off I was | 06:57 |
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| flaper87 | I'm glad we had this conversation, we're trying to get as much feedback from the community as possible before sending another graduation request. | 06:58 |
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| flaper87 | jogo: thanks again, have a safe flight | 07:01 |
| jogo | flaper87: thanks | 07:01 |
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| ihrachyshka | flaper87: you actually forgot to put your +2 here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115289/ :) | 08:22 |
| flaper87 | ihrachyshka: ops, fixed | 08:22 |
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| danpb | ttx: do you know what the cut off point is for new contributors to get a ATC pass is ? i thought it was the 27th, but someone just said it was tomorrow ?!?! | 15:20 |
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| ttx | danpb: should be at feature freeze (Sep 4). Ask reed... maybe fungi knows too | 15:21 |
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| vkmc | annegentle, hey :) if you have a moment later, could you give us some feedback about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114530/? | 15:21 |
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| fungi | danpb: no idea. i basically just send reed updated lists when he asks for them, so he'd really need to confirm when he plans to request the final list | 15:22 |
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| danpb | reed: are you able to answer that Q above about cut off date for ATC | 15:22 |
| danpb | fungi: ttx ok, thanks anyway | 15:22 |
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| mpaolino | danpb, as for your comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108714/4 (thanks for the review, btw) | 16:12 |
| mpaolino | related to the $DEST variable.. | 16:12 |
| reed | danpb, cutoff date is at Feature Freeze but I can handle last minute exceptions after that | 16:12 |
| mpaolino | Usually the files that we want to cache are placed in devstack/files (the cirros and fedora images, for example). That's why I download and decompress libvirt in FILES | 16:12 |
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| mpaolino | The ./configure command honors the $DEST directory, installing libvirt where the local.conf specifies | 16:13 |
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| danpb | reed: ok, so people have until Sept 4 to get patches merged to qualify if we're to avoid bothering you for exceptions | 16:15 |
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| reed | danpb, correct, I'll ask fungi to grab the lastest list of ATCs around Sept 4, send automatic email to them and do 'manually' exceptions after that | 16:16 |
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| danpb | great, thanks for the info | 16:16 |
| reed | np | 16:16 |
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| clarkb | dhellmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1359049 do you know why ceilometer does things that way? | 17:40 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1359049 in ceilometer "Ceilometer fails when specifying alternative sqlalchemy mysql driver" [Undecided,New] | 17:40 |
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| clarkb | dhellmann: specifically why is it loading the drivers for sqlalchemy? that seems fragile | 17:41 |
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| pcm_ | jamielennox: ping | 18:25 |
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| rcrit | dtroyer, ping re SSL/TLS proxy bug https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98854/ | 19:29 |
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| dtroyer | rcrit: I'll add it to my short list…I'm over my devstack quota until I finish something else first… | 19:31 |
| rcrit | dtroyer, heh, just had a question :-) | 19:31 |
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| dtroyer | oh, ok | 19:32 |
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| rcrit | dtroyer, you had mentioned splitting it into 2 patches. I looked at it and while it is possible it seems like a ton of work. If it would help with the review I can do it but they both sort of add context to each other | 19:32 |
| dtroyer | rcrit: no, I understand. it's just that is a topic that takes me a bit to get everything into my head to do at once. but it's important enough that it all works together | 19:34 |
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| rcrit | ok | 19:34 |
| rcrit | great, thanks | 19:34 |
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| alexpilotti | notmyname: here’s the WIndows patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115782/ | 21:05 |
| notmyname | alexpilotti: thanks. can you reply on the mailing list with a link to that? | 21:06 |
| alexpilotti | cschwede: ^ | 21:06 |
| alexpilotti | notmyname: sure was just going to do that | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | alexpilotti: thanks | 21:13 |
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| alexpilotti | reed: hi | 21:18 |
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| reed | hei alexpilotti | 21:19 |
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| alexpilotti | reed: I prepared the Windows patch for that guy that didn’t want to mess with the full contribution workflow | 21:19 |
| reed | alexpilotti, neat, thanks | 21:20 |
| alexpilotti | reed: if I put him as co-author, does he have to sign the agreement? | 21:20 |
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| reed | when it gets to legal things we have to ask lawyers to be safe | 21:20 |
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| alexpilotti | reed: I don’t want to put him through unnecessary steps if ne does not want t | 21:21 |
| alexpilotti | reed: should I tell him just to do it? | 21:21 |
| reed | exactly, it's too much of a burden.. | 21:21 |
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| reed | honestly, I don't have an answer | 21:21 |
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| earnThis | I know this is the wrong palce but #openstack-101 is dead right now. Can anyone help me with ssh key configuration for gerrit? | 21:21 |
| alexpilotti | ttx: ^ | 21:21 |
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| clarkb | earnThis: sure | 21:22 |
| clarkb | alexpilotti: reed: if the fix is trivial (from what I saw on the thread it was) it should be fine | 21:22 |
| clarkb | alexpilotti: reed: but I am not a lawyer :) | 21:22 |
| alexpilotti | clarkb: 3 lines in a setup.cfg :-) | 21:22 |
| clarkb | alexpilotti: ya, I think you are good especially since its a .cfg file | 21:22 |
| clarkb | earnThis: whats up? | 21:23 |
| reed | IANAL either | 21:23 |
| alexpilotti | clarkb: ok, is he going in teh AUTHORS file anyway, correct? | 21:23 |
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| clarkb | alexpilotti: ya? I would still do co authored by. This might be a qusetion for legal discuss though | 21:23 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: ^ do you have any thoughts | 21:24 |
| earnThis | clarkb: thanks, it seems like i have my public key set up right but ssh test pings arent working | 21:24 |
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| clarkb | earnThis: how are you doing an ssh ping? | 21:24 |
| clarkb | earnThis: note gerrit's ssh server runs on port 29418 not the default 22 | 21:24 |
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| earnThis | clarkb: ssh earnthis@gerrit.wikimedia.org -p 29418 is one way i tried | 21:27 |
| earnThis | I'm not confident wikimedia is the way to go | 21:28 |
| clarkb | earnThis: are you trying to use wikimedia's gerrit or openstack's? | 21:28 |
| alexpilotti | reed: sometimes our workflow is even more complicated than the US immigration procedures! | 21:28 |
| earnThis | clarkb: ive tried both | 21:29 |
| alexpilotti | reed: the only thing we miss is the custom declaration form :-) | 21:29 |
| earnThis | clarkb: im not sure i went about openstack's the right way though | 21:29 |
| clarkb | earnThis: try `ssh -p29418 earnthis@review.openstack.org gerrit ls-projects` | 21:30 |
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| reed | alexpilotti, it has its flaws especially for casual contributors and small patches | 21:30 |
| clarkb | earnThis: if that fails go to https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ and double check your username there | 21:30 |
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| earnThis | clarkb: openstack-attic/database-api: no such file or dir | 21:34 |
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| clarkb | earnThis: oh cool so it did something, progress | 21:35 |
| clarkb | earnThis: I think you copied the backticks and it tried to execute the listing of projects | 21:35 |
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| clarkb | earnThis: try rerunning the command without the backticks? | 21:36 |
| clarkb | earnThis: but it appears to be working for openstack's gerrit if that happenee | 21:36 |
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| earnThis | got it | 21:37 |
| earnThis | clarkb: thank you | 21:37 |
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| earnThis | clarkb: do I even need a wikimedia account? | 21:40 |
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| clarkb | earnThis: for openstack you do not | 21:41 |
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| earnThis | clarkb: Alright thanks. Also, is this an ok ~/.ssh/config file http://paste.openstack.org/show/97938/ | 21:44 |
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| clarkb | earnThis: it should be. I just let git review manage git remotes for me rather than deal with ssh config directly | 21:46 |
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| earnThis | clarkb: yea that does sound better | 21:48 |
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