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| gursImran | Hello all, Whats the difference between X-Auth-Token and X-Subject-Token? I am playing with Keystone API V3 | 12:52 |
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| BAKfr | gursImran, X-Auth-Token is the token used for authentication (needed by almost all requests). X-Subject-Token is used when you want to manipulate a token (or ask a new one) | 12:55 |
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| gursImran | I have generated a token using my openstack credentials succesfully and It has returned me X-Auth-Token. Now I want to validate it if It is in active state or not, How do I do it? | 12:57 |
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| gursImran | BAKfr, Both Request and Head on /v3/auth/tokens requires two tokens, ie X-Auth-Token and X-Subject-Token. I am already having Auth token but I dunno X-Subject-Token to validate it with. kindly help. | 12:59 |
| BAKfr | gursImran, by example, if you have a token "A" as an admin, and you want to know if a token "B" is valid or not, you will call "HEAD /auth/tokens" with X-Auth-Token="A" and X-Subject-Token="B" | 13:00 |
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| gursImran | Thanks a lot for your help, I am trying it now | 13:00 |
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| naggappan | hi commit message should contain eaither the bug fix details or the blue print details right? i am just started to reviewing the code for my understanding . Here is the one which doesn't have the blue print or bug fix details | 13:02 |
| naggappan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124625/ | 13:02 |
| naggappan | is this normal? | 13:02 |
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| gursImran | X-Auth-Token: A valid authentication token for an administrative user. | 13:15 |
| gursImran | How do I get to know this? | 13:16 |
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| jokke_ | gursImran: you get it from keystone | 13:18 |
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| gursImran | Is that token a permanent one or i ‘ll have to generate that one everytime (I am creating custom dashboard for my users) | 13:20 |
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| BAKfr | gursImran, a token is temporary. you can ask for a token at 'POST /auth/tokens' | 13:22 |
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| BAKfr | gursImran, look at this: https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#tokens-1 | 13:23 |
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| omrim__ | Hi, I would like to create an agent that support SRIOV by adjust the nova + ml2 conf files | 13:47 |
| omrim__ | I would like to do it with Q_AGENT | 13:47 |
| omrim__ | Is there any procedure to create such an agent? | 13:47 |
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| eglynn-office | zul: quick question on ceilometer packaging for unbuntu? (... assuming you'll still the maintainer) | 14:57 |
| zul | eglynn-office: whats up | 14:58 |
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| zul | eglynn-office: im one of them | 14:58 |
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| eglynn-office | zul: just wondering whether you folks are planning to package up the new ceilometer-ipmi-agent? | 14:59 |
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| zul | eglynn-office: possibly | 15:00 |
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| eglynn-office | zul: it landed very recently, I pointed the author (Edwin Zhai) in your direction re. the packaging aspect | 15:00 |
| zul | eglynn-office: do you have a pypi link? | 15:01 |
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| eglynn-office | zul: it's service-side as opposed to a client | 15:02 |
| eglynn-office | zul: so not on pypi, but will be in the core ceilometer tarball for juno-rc1 | 15:03 |
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| eglynn-office | zul: TBH I'm not fully sure how we'll handle the packaging of this new agent for Fedora & derivatives | 15:03 |
| zul | eglynn-office: ok well have to look at it, since its getting pretty close to the ubuntu release | 15:03 |
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| eglynn-office | zul: ... it would be easy to add a new openstack-ceilometer-ipmi RPM, but for it to be usable we'd also need support in the puppet modules etc. | 15:04 |
| zul | eglynn-office: ditto for us as well | 15:05 |
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| eglynn-office | zul: also note that the "preferred" way of consuming IPMI data is via notifications from Ironic | 15:05 |
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| eglynn-office | zul: ... whereas this new ceilo-ipmi agent is an alternative means of getting that data when Ironic is not used to manage the baremetal | 15:06 |
| zul | eglynn-office: ack | 15:06 |
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| dhellmann | zul: when you have some time, your input on library packaging in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/047288.html would be helpful | 15:44 |
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| zul | dhellman: do you want me to reply to that thread or do you want my opinnon now? ;) | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | zul: on the thread would be best, so we have it on record ("write it down") | 15:47 |
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| zul | dhellmann: ok | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | zul: thanks | 15:47 |
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| drwahl | i'm trying to push to openstack-dev/sandbox, but keep getting authentication errors. i'm using the same creds as i use to sign in to review.openstack.org. am i doing something wrong? | 16:07 |
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| gordc | vponomaryov: regarding: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122252/ | 16:23 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: yes | 16:23 |
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| gordc | the bug we had in ceilometer wasn't directly related to your patch but i think is in same area. | 16:24 |
| gordc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-ceilometerclient/+bug/1245317 | 16:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1245317 in python-ceilometerclient "Ceilemeter command will encounter a UnicodeEncodeError when update or show an alarm with not unicode attributes " [High,Fix committed] | 16:24 |
| gordc | not my bug, but from what i can tell, there needs to be some sort of encoding when printing to resolve issue described in bug | 16:25 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: so, you are asking will work "print_list" and "print_dict" if you change it in ceilometer? | 16:26 |
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| gordc | vponomaryov: no. i'm asking does your patch consider this? i assume it's being encoded currently to resolve the scenario described in bug | 16:27 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: only one difference - usage of unicode. Problem you had appeared using ascii | 16:32 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: so, my change does not implement some forced encoding and does not change ascii to unicode | 16:33 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: so, it is easy to fix in project itself - use for it unicode | 16:34 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: by default, py2 uses ascii | 16:34 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: py3 uses unicode | 16:34 |
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| gordc | vponomaryov: have you thought about changing https://github.com/openstack/oslo.utils/blob/master/oslo/utils/encodeutils.py#L82 to six.string_types? | 16:35 |
| gordc | vponomaryov: my concern is that you're just shifting the encoding issues to the individual clients rather than resolving it in common code. | 16:35 |
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| gordc | vponomaryov: ^^the above suggestion was just me throwing a random idea out there ie. fixing safe_encode instead... i've no idea if it works | 16:39 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: "print_dict" and "print_list" stop using safe_encode at all, in our case. How is it related to "shifting" errors in safe_encode? maybe forced translation to unicode can help here. But relation to safe_encode is still question | 16:44 |
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| waynr | is there anyway to get a comprehensive list of supported job configuration options in jenkins_job_builder? | 16:45 |
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| gordc | vponomaryov: so here's the original reason we have encoding: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/commit/47e6bc25ae647c9b83b394cfc5734490855acbe2 | 16:47 |
| vponomaryov | waynr: if devstack-gate used - https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh also see https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-horizon-pep8/2121/parameters/? | 16:47 |
| gordc | vponomaryov: let's track this in gerrit so we have history. | 16:48 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: originally it was written for py2 only | 16:53 |
| waynr | vponomaryov: i'm just interested in the config options supported by the jenkins-job-builder tool itself, i am working on a tool that checks job configuration xml against a set of rules and emits warnings when for example a job name doesn't match organizational standards--i'd like the tool i am working on to follow the same naming convention used by jenkins-job-builder if possible. | 16:53 |
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| vponomaryov | waynr: I guess in #openstack-infra room people can help you better with it | 16:54 |
| waynr | okay thanks | 16:54 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: so, can be said, that safe_encode is required only for py2, though safe_encode can and should be omitted in py3 | 16:56 |
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| vponomaryov | gordc: And, I guess, you are right, current change will break py2 with bytes not covered by ascii | 16:58 |
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| gordc | vponomaryov: sorry, i stepped away for a bit... | 16:59 |
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| gordc | vponomaryov: i think we definitely need something fix similar to your patch... just not sure it's the right place. | 16:59 |
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| marun | jaypipes: hi! | 17:29 |
| jaypipes | marun: hola :) | 17:29 |
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| marun | jaypipes: I've been thinking about how we structure projects in a different way than tent/layers/etc | 17:30 |
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| marun | jaypipes: When I imagine the infrastructure that google/amazon/etc put in place to support SOA, I presume they must have a common framework on which services are deployed. | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | marun: well, a big tent doesn't attempt to create a taxonomy for projects... it's just saying that we should be inclusive and allow competition. | 17:31 |
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| marun | jaypipes: openstack makes a half-hearted attempt to share infrastructure through things like oslo, but I don't think that goes far enough | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | marun: not that having taxonomies is a bad thing... just that the Big Tent concept doesn't really address the categorization of things directly. | 17:31 |
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| marun | jaypipes: I don't think the categorization is the important bit though | 17:32 |
| marun | jaypipes: I think being able to conceive and deploy openstack services with as little developer or operator friction as possible should be the goal | 17:32 |
| marun | the rest is just politics, and I think you can guess what I think of that ;) | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | marun: agreed 100%. | 17:32 |
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| marun | jaypipes: so can you think of ways we could reduce that friction without requiring so much hand-wavey discussion? | 17:34 |
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| marun | jaypipes: turn this into the technical problem it deserves to be, one that we might actually have a hope of solving? | 17:34 |
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| jaypipes | marun: yes, I can think of at least two concrete things we can do as a community. | 17:35 |
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| jaypipes | marun: the first is to have non-triple-o deployment methods actually functionally tested in our upstream gates | 17:36 |
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| jaypipes | marun: the second would be to have a working group (users + some TC members + operators) that is specifically charged with analyzing the consistency and stability issues with upgrades and deployment. | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | marun: again, using non-Triple-O deployment methods. | 17:37 |
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| marun | jaypipes: so deployment has to become part of openstack's mission | 17:38 |
| marun | jaypipes: in the same way that end-user experience should | 17:38 |
| jaypipes | marun: correct. | 17:38 |
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| marun | jaypipes: those have historically also been political minefields though :/ | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | marun: and deployment using standard config management tooling, not just devstack or triple-o. | 17:39 |
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| rodrigods | jaypipes, great idea about using swift as token backend, was thinking about something similar. if you need any extra hands, please let me know =) | 17:40 |
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| jaypipes | rodrigods: will do, thx! | 17:40 |
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| marun | jaypipes: Have you seen consensus as to whether this is the way forward? | 17:42 |
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| jaypipes | marun: nope. :( it's just my personal opinion. | 17:42 |
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| marun | jaypipes: :/ | 17:43 |
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| marun | jaypipes: I'm getting the sense that OpenStack is devolving into a make-work project in which we solve symptoms rather than root causes. The tent/layers/etc discussion certainly gave me that sense. | 17:44 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, my only concern with swift as a backend is the maintenance of the index-lists (but it's not something *that* bad to deal with as we do it with the KVS / memcache backend as is) | 17:44 |
| marun | jaypipes: We seem to be seeing the kinds of problems that require revolutionary change, but I'm not seeing any willingness to take the kind of risks that would entail. | 17:45 |
| morganfainberg | jaypipes, i'll respond on the ML as well, but yeah definitely open to alternatives. | 17:45 |
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| jaypipes | marun: well, *I* am willing to take those risks :) but I'm only one person... it takes a lot of people sharing a vision to move this battleship. | 17:46 |
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| marun | jaypipes: I'm willing, too. | 17:46 |
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| jaypipes | morganfainberg: cool, good to know. thx! | 17:46 |
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| marun | jaypipes: The problem I'm seeing is that we need consensus to take the necessary risks, and that's much harder to achieve. | 17:46 |
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| marun | jaypipes: everything is so tightly coupled that going off and pioneering new ways of doing things is really hard without everyone agreeing as to its necessity. | 17:47 |
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| marun | jaypipes: Isn't SOA supposed to avoid this kind of problem? | 17:47 |
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| jaypipes | marun: I don't necessarily think it's about pioneering new ways of doing things. I think it's more about accepting that certain things are *already being done* in the real world, and having a change in governance policy that supporting those things is something we need to do. | 17:49 |
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| marun | jaypipes: I think that testing real-world deployment in the gate can and should happen. | 17:52 |
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| jaypipes | marun: BTW, lest anyone get the wrong idea... I'm not knocking on Triple-O or devstack here. I'm just saying we need to also be testing with puppet, chef, ansible, etc... | 17:53 |
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| sdague | marun: how would you expect to do that? | 17:57 |
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| sdague | because I think it's a much easier said than done statement | 18:00 |
| achampion | anyone on that's worked on the nova block-device stuff? | 18:00 |
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| achampion | seems no availability zone is passed to cinder when using --block-device 'source=image;id=XX;dest=volume' was looking in nova.virt.block_device.DriverImageBlockDevice which does cinder.create but don't see any az information being passed (so only works with default cinder az) | 18:03 |
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| marun | sdague: I'm not saying it would be easy | 18:07 |
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| marun | sdague: but pretending that we're validating a cloud product with devstack alone does not seem reasonable to me. | 18:08 |
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| sdague | marun: maybe. It is a ton more validation than most of our underlying components get though. The fact that we actually try to start openstack in some configuration and poke it is a lot more than what libvirt does, for instance. | 18:10 |
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| marun | sdague: I'm not saying that what we today isn't useful. | 18:10 |
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| marun | sdague: it's necessary. But I don't think it's sufficient. | 18:10 |
| marun | sdague: and our continued focus on using devstack for everything rather than including more realistic kinds of testing seems like overspecialization to me. | 18:11 |
| sdague | marun: so take on doing something different. :) It's easy to say everyone else has got it wrong, the hard part is actually doing the heavy lifting | 18:11 |
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| morgan_remote_ | jaypipes: when you get towards the swift token stuff let me know if you have any questions or if you want to talk about anything I placed in the ML response in more real-time. :) | 19:29 |
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| jaypipes | morgan_remote_: wil do. thx! | 19:29 |
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| marun | sdague: Agreed, and it's a matter of priorities. | 20:47 |
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| marun | sdague: I think it will be difficult to improve the OpenStack user experience until there are resources to validate it upstream. | 20:49 |
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| drwahl | anteaya: i did some local tests and our gerrit jenkins plugin seems to be properly listening silently. just noticed a merge on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124375/ and our gerrit plugin didn't respond. so things are looking good! | 22:19 |
| anteaya | drwahl: hello | 22:19 |
| drwahl | 'ello | 22:20 |
| anteaya | good news | 22:20 |
| anteaya | did you figure out how to use the sandbox repo? | 22:20 |
| drwahl | sort of. our account didn't seem to be working for pushes though | 22:20 |
| drwahl | so i did some local tests as well | 22:20 |
| anteaya | well for the sandbox you need to submit your own change | 22:20 |
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| drwahl | right... not sure why i was trying to push | 22:21 |
| anteaya | you set up to listen to the stream and then you or someone else testing has to offer a patch | 22:21 |
| drwahl | review is what i should have done | 22:21 |
| anteaya | yes | 22:21 |
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| anteaya | try again sometime and let me know how you make out | 22:21 |
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| drwahl | will do | 22:21 |
| anteaya | drwahl: let me know if this is helpful at all: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 22:22 |
| anteaya | and thanks for the update | 22:22 |
| drwahl | welcome | 22:23 |
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