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| sigmavirus24 | cyeoh: I'm not under the impression that there were plans to *require* behaviour though. | 01:46 |
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| cyeoh | sigmavirus24: depends on who you talk to. We'll start with guidelines for now. Eventually there may be some "rules". | 02:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | I hadn't seen that on the list yet | 02:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | All the discussion I had seen seemed to suggest these were going to be guidelines/best practices | 02:04 |
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| cyeoh | sigmavirus24: yep thats the main focus for now | 02:10 |
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| cyeoh | sigmavirus24: But I think there's probably some things which are candidates for more than just a guideline eventually (eg tenant vs project or instance vs server) | 02:11 |
| cyeoh | sigmavirus24: of course giving projects plenty of time to transition. But I don't think there's any real valid reason to be different on any those for future work. | 02:12 |
| cyeoh | sigmavirus24: everything is going in as a guideline for now though. | 02:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | fair enough | 02:12 |
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| Mzoorikh | Hi | 14:25 |
| Mzoorikh | Is there a way to make a change online to my recent changes on openstack Gerrit system(Instead of locally on my system)? | 14:25 |
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| clarkb | Mzoorikh you can edit the commit messages in gerrit but just about everything else is expected to be pushed up | 14:27 |
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| Mzoorikh | clarkb: Thanks. So, How can I submit a new patch set to my recent commit on specific branch and amend my previous changes(I don't want to create a commit and new commit message)? | 14:32 |
| clarkb | `git review -d changenumber ; make edits; git commit --amend ; git review` | 14:34 |
| clarkb | that updates the existing change with a new patchset | 14:35 |
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| Mzoorikh | clarkb: Thanks a lot for your help. | 14:35 |
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| abhirc | have a question on testing -> how are REST API's tested in OpenStack and and are there tests for CLI like nova cell-show | 16:47 |
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| Murali__ | Devstack installation issue ---> Failed to upload image (500 Internal Server Error). Does any one help me how to fix this issue | 17:33 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer, whats up with 'sudo virsh list --all' in devstack now? seems to be hanging on my machine | 18:22 |
| stevemar | i don't recall ever seeing that before | 18:22 |
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| dtroyer | stevemar: no idea, I don't recall having done that lately. on current distros libvirt is from distro packages | 19:12 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer, it's being silly | 19:29 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer, oh it seems it's been around for a while... https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/203794 | 19:30 |
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| jogo | russellb: oh I didn't press tab enough | 20:17 |
| russellb | jogo: o/ | 20:17 |
| jogo | russellb: so I have two ideas | 20:17 |
| jogo | 1) making things better for the end user | 20:17 |
| jogo | or some variant of that. That was one of the biggest themes that came back from the priorities exiercise | 20:18 |
| jogo | and we have no cross project sessions on it that I can find | 20:18 |
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| russellb | jogo: you're right, no session on that | 20:19 |
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| russellb | jogo: do we have ideas to discuss? or just general brainstorming? | 20:19 |
| russellb | would need *some* ideas to get it moving | 20:20 |
| jogo | 2) IMHO one of the reasons the 'gate' is so hard to debug is OpenStack is hard to debug and I think that is related to Conway's low. We built an awesome system to automate things away from devs. so we now automate complexity | 20:20 |
| jogo | for ideas for for usability | 20:21 |
| jogo | let me check that email thread again | 20:21 |
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| jogo | sdague, mordred: ^ poke | 20:21 |
| russellb | yep | 20:21 |
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| russellb | i think improving it is a combo of 1) simplifying how to use and debug openstack, 2) simplify the gate env itself, wherever that may make sense, and 3) education | 20:22 |
| russellb | education part, sdague volunteered to do a bootstrap session, so that's cool | 20:22 |
| sdague | jogo: so, sure. I guess my question is why are we coming up with something from whole cloth. There were a bunch of other proposed sessions and a process. Seems like one of them probably is fine. | 20:23 |
| russellb | simplifying use and debug is a pretty big topic | 20:23 |
| russellb | there is a topic specifically about making logs suck less | 20:23 |
| russellb | and is directly about #1 | 20:23 |
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| russellb | basically lots of things happening around all of those things, in more directed sessions i think | 20:24 |
| sdague | right, agreed. Speaking of which, I'm assuming rocky submitted that one. Has she stepped up to lead the discussion? | 20:24 |
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| jogo | going through the list of user related ideas from the kilo priorities exercise thread : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/6cWQG9oNsr | 20:24 |
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| sdague | jogo: if we want a user priority item it would probably be the state of AWS compat :) | 20:25 |
| russellb | sdague: which, the log one? no .. | 20:25 |
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| sdague | russellb: yeh, the log one | 20:25 |
| ayoung | rcrit, I just did a packstack install, and it puts all the Horizon stuff under /etc/httpd/conf.d/15-horizon_vhost.conf in a VirtualHost on port 80. Makes it hard to reconcile with the mod_nss settings. What the General Setup for HTTPS enabled Horizon? | 20:25 |
| russellb | sdague: is rocky == rochelle grober? | 20:26 |
| sdague | yes | 20:26 |
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| russellb | ok, got an email from her, asking if we could fix conflict between that and refstack | 20:26 |
| russellb | i asked for it to be brought up on list so we could discuss alternatives | 20:26 |
| russellb | haven't seen that though | 20:26 |
| sdague | ok | 20:26 |
| jogo | sdague: lol | 20:26 |
| sdague | you can put me in as backup, she was going to take the charge on that item, so I'd like her to chair that session if possible | 20:27 |
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| russellb | ok, nobody is listed at all yet, but i'll put you down as backup | 20:27 |
| sdague | yeh, if you don't hear from her by tomorrow, I'll build and etherpad | 20:27 |
| russellb | OK | 20:27 |
| russellb | so this other session | 20:27 |
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| russellb | how about we just give it to the storage topic | 20:28 |
| russellb | probably enough other things to work on planning / prepping for | 20:28 |
| sdague | russellb: +1 | 20:28 |
| rcrit | ayoung, you'd either have to modify nss.conf directly for your needs or remove it and create your own config. | 20:28 |
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| sdague | especially with jgriffith and vishy being pro having it get discussed | 20:28 |
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| ayoung | rcrit, hmmm | 20:29 |
| ayoung | rcrit, not sure I agree. I think that will make it hard to do sharing of the web server for horizon | 20:29 |
| ayoung | say you want httpd for both horizon and keystone on the same server | 20:29 |
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| ayoung | seems like the virtual host directive needs to go | 20:30 |
| rcrit | what virtual host directive? | 20:30 |
| russellb | jogo: ^ ok with that? | 20:30 |
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| jogo | russellb: I think there may be something to the user facing stuff: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/6cWQG9oNsr | 20:32 |
| jogo | that is samples from that massive ML thread | 20:32 |
| jogo | sounds like SDK related | 20:33 |
| jogo | is a really big one | 20:33 |
| jogo | Maybe dtroyer has ideas | 20:33 |
| jogo | slash would like to lead | 20:33 |
| russellb | slash? | 20:33 |
| jogo | '/' | 20:33 |
| russellb | oh, as in you'd like to lead? | 20:34 |
| jogo | maybe dtroyer has some ideas / would like to lead a session on that | 20:34 |
| russellb | ohhhh. | 20:34 |
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| russellb | dtroyer: ping :) | 20:34 |
| russellb | i have to go very soon though to pick up the kid | 20:34 |
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| jogo | I would like to make mordred and the infra folks less angry about consuming openstack | 20:34 |
| russellb | it's an incredibly broad topic for 40 minutes though | 20:34 |
| russellb | probably more useful to pick a very targeted area out of that | 20:35 |
| jogo | to quote Sean " We as a project need to figure out how to get the SDK / unified client effort moving forward faster." | 20:35 |
| russellb | no other session(s) on that already? | 20:35 |
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| russellb | i'm surprised if so :( | 20:35 |
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| jogo | russellb: I didn't see one in the cross project stuff | 20:35 |
| Murali_ | I m getting following error --- > devstack installation issue: Failed to upload image ( HTTP 500) | 20:35 |
| Murali_ | can any help me please to fix this | 20:35 |
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| jogo | russellb: a search of http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/ for SDK has no hits | 20:36 |
| jogo | and nothing on unified client either | 20:36 |
| russellb | jogo: i don't see one elsewhere either, for either sdk or openstackclient | 20:36 |
| russellb | :( | 20:36 |
| russellb | bummer | 20:36 |
| Murali_ | I m getting following error --- > devstack installation issue: Failed to upload image ( HTTP 500) | 20:36 |
| russellb | would def give this session to that | 20:36 |
| jogo | russellb: yeah | 20:37 |
| jogo | russellb: I think a good outcome of a session on this, would be a call to arms | 20:37 |
| jogo | with volunteers | 20:37 |
| russellb | yeah | 20:37 |
| jogo | if that is the only outcome its a win IMHO | 20:37 |
| russellb | dtroyer: any interest in leading an openstackclient / sdk session? | 20:37 |
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| Murali_ | any one faced this issue -- devstack installation issue: Failed to upload image ( HTTP 500) | 20:38 |
| eandersson | Take a look at this maybe? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22113136/devstack-installation-with-swift-enabled | 20:39 |
| eandersson | Seems to be the same issue. | 20:39 |
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| jogo | Terry Howe seems to be the top python-openstacksdk contributor | 20:40 |
| jogo | russellb: at least in the past quarter, but I don't think he is very vocal on the community | 20:41 |
| russellb | i've got to step out for now | 20:42 |
| russellb | will ttyl | 20:42 |
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| jogo | russellb: ttyl, hopefully dtroyer is around today | 20:42 |
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| sdague | jogo: poke dtroyer | 20:49 |
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| maishsk | Hi all. | 20:51 |
| maishsk | Is there a way to reach out to all of the PTL's (besides getting their emails from the ML and mailing them all directly)? | 20:52 |
| maishsk | An Openstack PTL mailing list? | 20:52 |
| jogo | sdague: russellb already has | 20:53 |
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| jogo | maishsk: AFAIK, no why? | 20:53 |
| jogo | maishsk: anything that should go to all PTLs should go to the -dev ML IMHO | 20:53 |
| jogo | (with a few small exceptions of course) | 20:53 |
| maishsk | jogo: Just wanted to save time.. :) | 20:53 |
| maishsk | jogo: If so with any specific tag in the subject? | 20:54 |
| jogo | maishsk: not sure what tag | 20:54 |
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| jogo | if it applies to all projects then [All] ? | 20:54 |
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| maishsk | jogo: Thanks | 20:54 |
| maishsk | will do | 20:54 |
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| Murali_ | Need Help: Failed to upload image ( HTTP 500) here is the glance api log https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b966848f2941592b345a | 21:01 |
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