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| _a_ | Good day. I am currently having problems with http://paste.kde.org/ps6nyoalh/dqhhcs/raw . Any ideas what might be going on here or where to start looking for clues and resolve this? | 05:38 |
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| teju | hi all...i installed devstack in centos 6.5 . When I am trying to boot an instance, i get the error "__init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'namedtuple_as_object" | 06:20 |
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| ekarlso | dtroyer: or jamielennox time for some OSC questions ? | 09:17 |
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| gongysh | hi, does anyone know why I run into this problem when I access my horizon: | 15:43 |
| gongysh | 15:43 | |
| gongysh | /bin/sh: django_pyscss.compressor.DjangoScssFilter: command not found | 15:43 |
| gongysh | Request Method:GET | 15:44 |
| gongysh | Request URL:http://localhost:8000/ | 15:44 |
| gongysh | Django Version:1.6.7 | 15:44 |
| gongysh | Exception Type:FilterError | 15:44 |
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| CaptainJack_ | Hey guys what is recommended maximum network/subnet size for neutron with openvswitch? | 18:56 |
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| CaptainJack_ | is 1100 VMs in one subnet too much for Openvswitch? I heard Rackspace recommended not to exceed 500 | 18:56 |
| CaptainJack_ | but maybe that is jsut saying | 18:57 |
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| CaptainJack_ | What is recommended maximum network/subnet size for neutron with openvswitch? | 19:02 |
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| CaptainJack_ | !! What is recommended maximum network/subnet size for neutron with openvswitch? !! Anyone? | 19:05 |
| openstack | CaptainJack_: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 19:05 |
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| CaptainJack_ | What is recommended maximum network/subnet size for neutron with openvswitch? Anyone? | 19:05 |
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| RichardRaseley | CaptainJack_: I don't know that there would be a recommended max size. Any bottlenecks would be related to the number of addresses / activity on the network. | 19:06 |
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| RichardRaseley | So a /8 and a /24 both with 10 instances using them have essentially the same overhead, AFAIK. | 19:07 |
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| CaptainJack_ | RichardRaseley: What about rule of thumb from Rackspace <500 good recommendation? | 19:08 |
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| RichardRaseley | CaptainJack_: I am not in a position to personally validate their recommendation, though I would tend to give some credence to it. | 19:10 |
| RichardRaseley | to them* | 19:10 |
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| CaptainJack_ | Cisco recommends to keep broadcast domains as small as possible up to /22 | 19:11 |
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| RichardRaseley | Sure, I think they are making that recommendation based on the max number of clients a /22 would support. That's like 1024, right (my subnet math is potato)? | 19:11 |
| CaptainJack_ | yes it is 1024-2 | 19:12 |
| RichardRaseley | If it were me, and I were using vanilla Neutron with OVS I probably wouldn't deploy anything larger than a /24. | 19:12 |
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| CaptainJack_ | I am having problems with Openvswitch when exceeding 1000 vms and I am wondering if openvswitch was not designed to hold brodcast domain of that size... | 19:12 |
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| CaptainJack_ | Richard, that is what I am thinking, but I have customer with /20 and I think wtf is this | 19:13 |
| RichardRaseley | CaptainJack_: Where is your OVS instance living? | 19:13 |
| CaptainJack_ | I have network background and it looks bad for me | 19:13 |
| RichardRaseley | You could think about deploying a dedicated box to run the OVS instances (if they are currently co-located). | 19:14 |
| CaptainJack_ | OVS is living on each compute node and network nodes | 19:14 |
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| CaptainJack_ | RichardRaseley_ if this is what you ask | 19:14 |
| RichardRaseley | OVS is suboptimal for a lot of reasons, first of which is scalability of throughput on a single instance. | 19:14 |
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| RichardRaseley | Yes, it is generally. You might want to look into breaking out the OVS instances into dedicated node(s) if you're set on using OVS. | 19:15 |
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| CaptainJack_ | RichardRaseley_ I know that has scale problems, what would you recommend as a replacement? | 19:15 |
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| CaptainJack_ | I have dedicated OVS nodes | 19:16 |
| RichardRaseley | The issue with OVS is that you only ever have one active process handling the traffic, AFAIK. Even with the new DVSs, they are more for resiliency than throughput. | 19:17 |
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| RichardRaseley | Have you looked at something like MidoNet (recently open sourced)? | 19:17 |
| RichardRaseley | Or PlumGrid, or NSX, or any number of other products in the space? | 19:17 |
| RichardRaseley | Going AFK for a few. | 19:18 |
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| CaptainJack_ | I heard about MidoNet but I am afraid of vendor lock-in and commercial products | 19:19 |
| CaptainJack_ | I did not know they opensourced | 19:19 |
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| CaptainJack_ | talked to Cisco about theur solution | 19:19 |
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| adjohn | @RichardRaseley happy to talk about MidoNet if you have any questions | 19:25 |
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| adjohn | er sorry CaptainJack_ | 19:25 |
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| RichardRaseley | adjohn: I am assuming this is Adam? I know all about MidoNet. =] Great stuff. | 19:31 |
| adjohn | This is, and thanks :) | 19:31 |
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| RichardRaseley | CaptainJack_: Yeah, I think you're just hitting the scalability limitations of OVS. I would seriously consider talking to adjohn about MidoNet or dig into some of the other solutions out there. | 19:35 |
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| ihrachyshka | mordred: hey! | 20:13 |
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| ihrachyshka | mordred: I'd like to ask for review for a patch to sqlalchemy-migrate that fixes a regression that we've introduced in prev release | 20:14 |
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| ihrachyshka | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121517/ | 20:15 |
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| annegent_ | Anyone who's table savvy know what's wrong with this table? | 22:21 |
| annegent_ | http://logs.openstack.org/50/134350/1/check/gate-neutron-specs-docs/3319dfb/console.html | 22:21 |
| annegent_ | (yes, I admit I have no idea how sphinx/rst tables work) | 22:22 |
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| Joe630 | yo | 22:22 |
| Joe630 | does devstack have bugtracking | 22:22 |
| Joe630 | i found one I don't know enough to fix yet | 22:22 |
| annegent_ | Joe630: sure, https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack | 22:22 |
| Joe630 | thanks | 22:23 |
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| Joe630 | this is an easy one to fix, for someone smarter than me | 22:23 |
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| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, hi | 23:03 |
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| miguelgrinberg | cyeoh: are you around? | 23:11 |
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| dhellmann | ZZelle_: hi | 23:14 |
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| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, one question about i18n | 23:15 |
| dhellmann | annegent_: it looks like the "Yes" under Required needs to be indented one more space, and that whole column may have to be moved over a bit to make space for the Boolean in the Type column | 23:15 |
| dhellmann | ZZelle_: go for it | 23:16 |
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| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, we should use log.info(_LI(...), ) or msg = _(...); log.info(msg, ) | 23:17 |
| annegent_ | dhellmann: Ty | 23:17 |
| dhellmann | annegent_: I may have a fix for you shortly | 23:17 |
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| dhellmann | ZZelle_: are you asking which marker function to use, or are you asking which code style to use? | 23:18 |
| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, for debug log, we should use log.debug('...') or msg = '...'; log.debug(msg) | 23:18 |
| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, msg = _('...'); log.debug(msg) | 23:18 |
| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, said differently should translate debug messages when defined outside of the log.debug call? | 23:19 |
| dhellmann | ZZelle_: you do not need to translate debug messages at all | 23:19 |
| dhellmann | ZZelle_: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/guidelines.html | 23:19 |
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| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, great, less work :) | 23:19 |
| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, thanks | 23:19 |
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| dhellmann | annegent_: ok, I have a fix but don't want to overwrite what you might be working on so let me know if you want me to post it to that review | 23:21 |
| annegent_ | dhellmann: ok go ahead and upload what you've got, I still can't get it to build locally. thanks | 23:21 |
| dhellmann | ZZelle_: let me know if the docs don't answer your questions so we can improve them | 23:22 |
| dhellmann | annegent_: I had to fix up the spacing for the first few columns -- you're not allowed to have values bleed out between the columns | 23:22 |
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| annegent_ | dhellmann: ok, so the ===== lines need to be as long as the longest content of a cell? | 23:22 |
| dhellmann | annegent_: a csvtable might be easier for some of this data, but those are a little harder to parse as a human | 23:22 |
| dhellmann | annegent_: yeah, basically | 23:23 |
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| dhellmann | annegent_: ok, update posted for you to see the difference | 23:23 |
| annegent_ | dhellmann: ok, that helps. Yeah I'm really trying to get rid of most tables unless absolutely necessary | 23:23 |
| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, it seems fine | 23:23 |
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| dhellmann | annegent_: csvtable or list-table might be easier for some of this long content: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/directives.html#id4 | 23:24 |
| * annegent_ perks up | 23:24 | |
| annegent_ | nice. cvs table makes total sense somehow | 23:24 |
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