Tuesday, 2015-01-27

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crc32How do I run "gate-octavia-pep8" tests locally. It seems code that passes "tox -e py27 pep8" passes but eventually fails in jenkins?00:23
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crc32Also what does "D000 Inline emphasis start-string without end-string" mean?00:25
btranHi, any changes in devstack recently? I"m getting HTTP 401 error Authentication failure: Could not find user: %SERVICE_USER% .   Was running fine on friday00:25
andreykurilin_sdague: btw, imo, oslo namespace is not single problem. for example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150058/ . It looks like all oslo new features are frozen:(00:25
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andreykurilin_jogo: ^00:27
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clarkbcrc32: its possible you have an older version of the linters installed locally. try `tox -repep8` to rebuild your venv or do .tox/pep8/bin/pip -U -r requirements.txt -r test-requirements.txt00:36
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crc32I did "rm -rf ./.tox" to be safe00:37
crc32It seems its a doc8 error that doesn't run when I use tox00:37
crc32running the command "doc8 specs doc/source octavia CONSTITUTION.rst HACKING.rst README.rst ROADMAP.rst" manually reproduces the error.00:37
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clarkbcrc32: maybe doc8 is new and your change doesn't run that check?00:38
clarkbcrc32: but when rebased on master the check runs00:38
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f13oany idea why this url is not here anymore ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-glanceclient-library-proposals10:08
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dhellmannayoung_ZZzz__: when you have a few minutes, I'd like to get a status update on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-policy13:25
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marundtroyer: regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/141482017:35
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marundtroyer: I think automatically performing the lvm config if required makes more sense than requiring a service to be enabled.17:37
marundtroyer: I'll propose a patch.17:37
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dtroyermarun: agreed for this case; my concern is around getting into a habit of doing that.  I don't want to do more (or any?) auto-config because we get into a dependency resolver problem that I want to avoid (see pip :)17:39
dtroyerthat's the bit I wanted on record in the bug...thanks17:40
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marundtroyer: I likely lack the experience to be concerned. :)17:40
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marundtroyer: and at least in the near term I'd like to keep devstack from doing unnecessary work to minimize the cost of functional job setup17:42
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marundtroyer, sdague: Fix for always-init-lvm issue - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150518/17:50
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit and Zuul will be offline for a few minutes for a security update17:53
sdaguemarun: hey, so alternate idea17:53
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sdaguecan we set a global flag - DEVSTACK_LVM_INIT17:54
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sdagueand move this into both the places in nova and cinder17:54
sdaguebut don't run it if we did before17:54
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marunsdague: that would seem more complicated than the proposed approach, what am I missing?17:55
sdaguemissing having this live in stackrc17:56
sdaguesorry stack.sh17:56
marunsdague: ah, ok17:56
sdaguebecause if stack.sh has a ton of project specific variable conditions17:56
sdagueit gets huge and gross17:56
marunsdague: That I can understand.17:56
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sdagueso instead put it close to where it's needed17:56
sdagueand just put a global in place so we don't stomp over ourselves twice17:56
marunsdague: my attempts to minimize the amount of work that devstack has to do to configure the functional job has been gated by the fact that stack.sh does way too much in non-modular ways17:56
sdaguemarun: right17:57
sdagueagreed17:57
marunsdague: I'll implement your alternative.17:57
sdaguemarun: thank you17:57
marunsdague: thank you!17:57
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marunsdague: where would the global flag go?17:58
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marunsdague: stackrc?17:58
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sdaguemarun: honestly, I'd just make it a global in each file17:58
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sdagueDEVSTACK_LVM_INIT=${DEVSTACK_LVM_INIT:-0}17:58
marunsdague: my bash-foo is weak - how to ensure that a change in a var defined in one file affects another file?17:59
sdagueit's all global by default17:59
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marunsdague: ah, so that variable def you just provided simply goes in both files, and *magic*?17:59
sdagueyeh17:59
marunsdague: ok, I can work with that.17:59
sdaguethen just set it when you use it17:59
marunsdague: ok, sounds good17:59
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marunsdague: where should lvm init be performed?  init_{nova,cinder}?18:10
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sdaguemarun: yeh, that sounds right18:13
marunsdague: cool18:13
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sdagueI think in cinder there is a separate function for init_lvm18:15
sdaguebut, yes, at that level18:15
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marunsdague: ah, it looks like it might be only nova lvm init that is the issue.18:22
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marunsdague: question, though.  What value is assigned to be_name here? https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/cinder#L16618:23
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marunsdague: I'm assuming that cinder and nova are sharing configuration functions but are configuring different volumes, but want to confirm.18:24
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sdaguemarun: I don't know18:25
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marunsdague: updated patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150518/18:28
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marunsdague: it turns out that the entry in stack.sh was only for nova anyway18:28
marunsdague: cinder performs its backend init entirely separately.18:28
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jamielennoxmordred: what's the rax/hp difference giving problems?18:29
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mordredjamielennox: yay you're here!18:39
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mordredjamielennox: so - for some reason in my code, if I provide a region_name it breaks on rax, but if I don't provide one it breaks on hp18:41
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mordredjamielennox: and - not having provided one to rax, I cannot figure out how it's operating since rax does have regions and it is returning me a list of servers18:42
mordredjamielennox: I'm _only_ passing a session and a version to the novaclient Client constructor18:42
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mordredjamielennox: I'm _only_ passing a session and a version to the novaclient Client constructor18:42
mordredgah18:43
mordredjamielennox: if I pass a region name to novaclient, I get:18:43
mordredkeystoneclient.openstack.common.apiclient.exceptions.EndpointNotFound: publicURL endpoint for compute service in DFW region not found18:43
mordredI also get that if I pass a region_name to the session itself18:43
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mordredjamielennox: so I'm thinking that somewhere these is something wrong in my sequence of session constructor, etc18:44
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jamielennoxmordred: do you have a dump of the two catalogs?18:45
mordredjamielennox: is there an easy way to get one?18:46
jamielennoxin general if you don't provide a region_name it just picks (i think the first) that matches the service_type, if you ask for a region_name specifically then it will require that region18:46
mordredgotcha18:46
mordredah - that makes sense then why no-region-name is working18:46
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jamielennoxfor viewing token, i always did like a openstack --debug token issue18:47
jamielennoxbut i think they got annoyed about all that being spewed into the jenkins logs and removed it from logging18:48
mordredOH WOW18:48
mordredkeystone catalog against my rackspace user does not show anything in compute18:48
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jamielennoxmordred: that could be it18:48
mordredbut nova list works18:48
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stevemarmagic?18:49
jamielennoxthat's weird from the cmdline18:49
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mordredand if I do --debug to nova list and dump that to a file18:50
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mordredI see compute in the json blob18:51
mordreddoesn't one of the command line things do pretty-printing of the debug output?18:51
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jamielennoxthere's jq that can do some stuff on the cmd line18:53
mordredso - I see type=compute and name=cloudServersOpenstack in a debug dump18:53
jamielennoxi think i generally end up c&p to ipython18:53
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mordredjamielennox, Shrews: ok. SO - if I pass in service_name explicitly set to cloudServersOpenStack it works19:00
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marunsdague: I've been running in circles, a new patch is pending anyway.19:00
jamielennoxmordred: that seems weird, name is optional and if there is only one entry it should get picked up regardless19:01
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mordredjamielennox: I do not know why service_type='compute' does not work19:01
mordredjamielennox: and I have verified that compute is listed in the service catalog19:02
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clarkbmordred: rax doesn't use the same tenant id for all services19:02
jamielennoxmordred: nova list might have been setting some defaults for region_name, but i'm not sure either19:02
clarkbmordred: so if you are filtering by tenant id that may be part of the problem19:02
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mordredk. let me be more clear19:04
mordredI'm not filtering by anything19:05
mordredI'm asking keystone to get me the thing19:05
morganfainbergthis is where i can't speak authoratatively to what rax's identity service does.19:05
morganfainbergsince it's definitely not keystone19:05
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mordredright. BUT - it does return a catalog that has a compute type section19:05
morganfainbergand no you're not crazy. it should return something.19:05
mordredwhich you can see if you do nova --debug list19:05
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clarkbmordred: are you using a tenant id as part of your auth?19:06
morganfainbergiirc they use the catalog in the token to limit what endpoints you can interact with.19:06
clarkbmordred: if so then you are filtering19:06
mordredclarkb: yes - and it is the correct id19:06
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morganfainbergand then they do filtering based on scope19:06
morganfainbergi *think*19:06
clarkbmordred: ok, its the one that matches compute but not object storage?19:06
mordredyes19:06
mordredand it works for non-session-based interactions19:06
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mordredthe only difference in the two is that one uses sessions and one uses novaclient username/password params19:06
mordredI have a workaround for right now, even though it's ugly19:07
mordredbut I'd like to communicate it to someone19:07
mordredbeause this ia  terrible experience19:07
marunsdague: so, the latest patch should be much better.19:07
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jamielennoxmordred: can you dump the token out to a pastebin somewhere19:07
morganfainbergso session = using already created token/session via username/password not specifically passing username/password?19:07
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marunsdague: It took me a while to figure out that we do need both cinder and nova to init the default volume group if either requires it \19:07
morganfainbergmordred, ^19:07
sdaguemarun: you are missing a $19:07
jamielennoxchange ['token']['id'] = 'xxxxx'19:07
marunsdague: arg19:07
marunsdague: danke19:08
sdaguejust left the comment19:08
mordredjamielennox: yes. one sec19:08
mordredtaht will, sadly, take more tahn one sec :)19:08
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morganfainbergmordred, well if you really trust the whole internet to "just not be mean with your token" - don't scrub the token id >.>19:08
morganfainberg:P19:08
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mordredjamielennox: http://paste.openstack.org/show/16287419:10
mordredOH19:10
mordredI see it19:10
mordredthere are two compute endpoints19:11
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mordredone has the name cloudServers and one has the name cloudServersOpenStack19:11
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jamielennoxoh - that's not cool19:11
sdaguemarun: +219:11
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marunsdague: danke :)19:11
mordredso - now - why can python-novaclient shell handle this?19:11
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mordredit seems that there are two versionIds19:12
jamielennoxwe had that proposed to us in a bug report on ksc a while ago - we said that ksc could never have handled it19:12
mordredhow do I filter by versionId?19:12
jamielennoxversionId is not a keystone thing19:12
mordredawesome19:12
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jamielennoxneither is half of that catalog19:13
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mordredis it that novaclient.client.authenticate does a bunch of looking for v2 ina  url?19:14
mordredis taht my the shell works and direct novaclient works but novaclient with session does not wor?19:15
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mordredbecause session doesn't use that authenticate logic?19:15
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mordredShrews: see above for scrollback19:15
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jamielennoxso the session logic if it finds a service catalog entry with the right service_type then it won't continue to process the list if it doesn't find a matching URL19:16
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jamielennoxim guessing that the nova catalog code must have allowed it to fall through and check the rest of the catalog19:16
jamielennoxi've never seen a catalog with multiple entries for the same servcie_type19:17
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marundtroyer: after some back and forth on the implementation with sdague, I think the fix for lvm init is looking good19:18
marundtroyer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150518/19:18
marundtroyer: I'm not entirely sure how to test, though.  Will the gate exercise it ?19:19
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mordredjamielennox: https://review.openstack.org/15055419:22
mordredjamielennox: I mean, that's not logic19:22
mordredclarkb, Shrews, dtroyer ^^19:22
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dtroyermordred: after-the-fact +2 on that…19:28
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dtroyerjamielennox: rax service catalogs have always been a source of entertainment…19:29
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mordredmikal: ^^ you just made a novaclient group - as you guys move novaclient to use keystone sessions, you're going to need to be aware of the above if you ever want to ditch non-session code paths19:32
mordreddtroyer: thanks!19:32
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mordredmikal: also, I hear you work there - maybe you can get them to fix something so that I can have nice things?19:34
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morganfainbergjamielennox, i'm going to bug you later about some phrasing on an email i'm sending to the ML19:40
morganfainbergjamielennox, re: service catalog stuff19:40
morganfainbergjamielennox, trying to be more prescriptive about the contents in a sane way19:40
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jamielennoxmorganfainberg: sure19:40
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morganfainbergjamielennox, i'll plan to circle up tonight / when things are less crazy19:40
jamielennoxmorganfainberg: i'm not sure if mordred's case above is something we need to/should handle in keystoneclient19:41
morganfainbergjamielennox, that is part of what the email will be about19:41
morganfainbergjamielennox, i'll bug you later on19:41
morganfainbergi need breafa^w lunch now19:42
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mordredmorganfainberg, jamielennox: while you guys look at that - also try to figure out why keystone catalog doesn't show all of the entries in the catalog returned on rax20:47
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arosendtroyer_zz:  Looking at the python-openstackclient it looks like it doesn't support  a noauth mode (for example if I don't want to use keystone). Do you know off hand if this is true?21:15
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dtroyer_zzarosen: that is true.  is there a project other than swift that even has such a concept?21:23
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arosendtroyer_zz:  For the python-congressclient we'd like to be able to work without keystone (since the goal of the project is to not be openstack specific).21:24
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dtroyer_zzok, so that's a bit different then…it should be possible to build a path through with no auth, but it isn't there today.21:25
arosendtroyer_zz:  I'm happy to add support to the python-openstackclient for --os-auth-type noauth21:25
dtroyer_zzarosen: ok…I don't think I've looked at the path with that in mind to see if it would just work or not.  it might be easy to do21:26
arosendtroyer_zz:  i'm looking to be able to do something like this in the end i think21:26
arosenopenstack --os-auth-type noauth --os-tenant-id foo   --os-policy-api-version 1 --os-url http://10.33.78.225:9696/ congress datasource list21:26
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dtroyer_zzarosen: that looks reasonable, it might just be the noath type to bypass some assumptions is all that is necessary to do yet21:27
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arosendtroyer_zz:  cool, i'll go a head and start working on this. Thanks21:31
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arosendragondm_:  I wonder if there should be a NoAuth class in python-keystoneclient instead?21:54
arosenCurrently all of the auth_plugins are loaded like this:  https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/master/openstackclient/api/auth.py#L3721:54
arosendtroyer_zz:  i mean sorry dragondm_21:54
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arosenAnd they use the keystoneclient/auth/base.py file to get at all the options: https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/master/openstackclient/api/auth.py#L9921:54
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arosenunfortunately  it doesn't look like there is a way to append this noAuth extension into: PLUGIN_LIST va stevedore.ExtensionManager()21:55
dtroyer_zzarosen: maybe, jamielennox would have a voice in that.  but OSC can deviate from that where necessary, we have once or twice already21:55
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dtroyer_zzlook at how osc_password plugin is added in the entry points in setup.cfg21:56
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etoewsmiguelgrinberg: when you have a minute, can you please add the affected CPLs ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141229/ ) to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141229/ ?22:05
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etoewsoops. CPLs == https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#API_Guidelines22:10
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miguelgrinbergetoews: sure, have a meeting right now, I'll do it after I get out of that.22:29
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jamielennoxarosen: what do you need the noAuth plugin to do?23:03
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arosenjamielennox:  to basically just make the request directly to the url specified23:05
arosenjamielennox: and not talk to keystone.23:05
jamielennoxarosen: it's a bit clunky but have you tried --os-auth-type token_endpoint23:06
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jamielennoxgives --os-endpoint and --os-token23:06
jamielennoxi *think* you will need to specify some value for token currently - i have a patch to fix that somewhere23:06
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jamielennoxbut if you're not passing through auth_token middleware then just put some text there23:06
arosenjamielennox:  do you mean token?23:07
aroseninvalid choice: 'token_endpoint' (choose from 'v2token', 'v2password', 'v3password', 'v3scopedsaml', 'v3unscopedadfs', 'token', 'v3token', 'password', 'v3unscopedsaml')23:07
jamielennox.. no23:07
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jamielennoxcrap - it's not there23:07
arosenjamielennox:  --os-auth-type doesn't have a token_endpoint option.23:07
jamielennoxhmm, sorry about that - it really should be23:08
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arosenjamielennox: hrm yea it's in the same place as the others: PLUGIN_NAMESPACE = 'keystoneclient.auth.plugin'23:09
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miguelgrinbergetoews: added CPLs for nova, glance & swift to the metadata spec. Did not include the Heat CPL, since the metadata usage in Heat is so different (and also appears to be read-only)23:13
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miguelgrinbergI assume based on your design doc that the other APIs do not have metadata. Is there a need to double check?23:14
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arosenjamielennox: any idea why it isn't there? The namespace is the same for both.23:15
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jamielennoxarosen: it's not listed as an option in setup.cfg23:16
arosenjamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/master/setup.cfg#L30 ?23:17
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jamielennoxarosen: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150615/23:17
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jamielennoxarosen: oh - i didn't realize that osc installed one23:18
jamielennoxhmm23:18
jamielennox in which case i feel it should work23:18
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dtroyer_zzjamielennox, arosen:  that might work, I've been kinda-sorta paying attention in nova meetup so didn't take the time to look through this completely yet…having the token header should actually be harmless to congress, without auth_token configured, right?23:27
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jamielennoxdtroyer_zz: yea - without auth_token middleware the header will just be ignored23:28
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etoewsmiguelgrinberg: i did a pretty basic search. you're certainly welcome to double check.23:41
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miguelgrinbergetoews: swift CPL responded, need to think about the many issues he raised23:43
notmynamemiguelgrinberg: that's me23:43
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miguelgrinbergnotmyname: hi, thanks for reviewing. You raise valid points, but I'm not sure everything you say applies to a guideline document. What we are trying to do is to lay out the base recommendation.23:46
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notmynamemiguelgrinberg: ok, but if that's adopted as a "guideline", then swift is immediately not following the guidelines and has no real path forward23:47
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notmynameie no way to actually follow them and also have anything close to the current api23:47
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miguelgrinbergnotmyname: the idea is not to write these documents to match existing implementations, that would be impossible because there are inconsistencies.23:49
miguelgrinbergso it is understood that some implementations will not agree with the guidelines23:49
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notmynamemiguelgrinberg: but isn't the important question what happens after the guidelines are adopted? of course there will be discrepancies as they are created23:55
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miguelgrinbergnotmyname: the guidelines are going to be recommendations. Existing projects will not have to change, since obviously that will break clients. But when the time comes to rev the API these guidelines can be used.23:56
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notmynamemiguelgrinberg: I believe that you have the best intentions to find some common ground. we all want the clients/API to be good, and we'd all like them to feel somewhat similar. but I don't have much faith in anything that says "we'll have guidelines but it's ok for there to be some differences". that's not how this community works, as a whole23:56
miguelgrinbergnotmyname: I don't think the message is that "it is ok to have differences". I think it is more a "we need to transition to consistent APIs". This will take time, it's not going to happen today.23:57
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