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| mriedem1 | devananda: are you aware of anyone trying to add db2 support to ironic for the database migrations? | 01:12 |
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| devananda | mriedem1: nope. | 02:29 |
| mriedem1 | devananda: yeah, nvm, i think i sorted it out | 02:29 |
| devananda | k k | 02:30 |
| mriedem1 | it has apparently worked up until the latest db migration that merged on 4/2 | 02:30 |
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| steve2 | hi friends | 02:44 |
| steve2 | i am steve | 02:44 |
| steve2 | i am new developer in openstack nova | 02:44 |
| steve2 | can someone tell me how i can start writing code in nova? | 02:44 |
| steve2 | i want to write a new driver | 02:45 |
| steve2 | i have checked out the git source code for nova | 02:45 |
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| Qiming | steve2, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute | 02:46 |
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| pradeep1 | heat abandon is deprecated by any chance? | 06:54 |
| pradeep1 | "heat abandon" | 06:54 |
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| g_koutal | Hi, Could you please provide some help regarding the development of a new scheduler on OpenStack? I would like to implement a new one that would be able to separate adversaries tenants and never place them on the same physical machine. For example if companies A and B are competitors, my scheduler should never instantiate instances of A and B on the same physical node. Is the development of such scheduler possible on OpenStack? Co | 08:23 |
| g_koutal | uld you please provide any ideas about how something like this could be done? Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated. | 08:23 |
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| shardy | ttx: Hi, I was wondering what the status of Heat is wrt RC's? | 09:28 |
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| shardy | ttx: I think asalkeld is out and I'm running the heat meeting today, so wanted to check latest status | 09:29 |
| shardy | ttx: also, we've got a couple of patches proposed to proposed/kilo | 09:29 |
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| ttx | shardy: made a quick status update with stevebaker yesterday. We'd like to keep the RC1 up for a couple more days. We'll certainly have a RC2 early next week | 09:43 |
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| ttx | shardy: in the mean time, the idea is to get all the bugs fixed in master, so that they can easily be backported when needed | 09:44 |
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| shardy | ttx: Ok, sounds good, thanks for the update | 09:49 |
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| jogo | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173834/1 | 15:19 |
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| jogo | dhellmann: surprised to see a reqs change to stable/kilo novaclient already | 15:20 |
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| plaurin | Hello, in a jenkin job, how to I configure a nodepool to make devstack-gate build a multi node environnement? | 15:37 |
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| dhellmann | jogo: I'm not sure what triggered that. Possibly creating the stable branch? | 15:41 |
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| dhellmann | plaurin: you may want to ask that question in #openstack-infra | 15:42 |
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| plaurin | oh, right, thanks | 15:42 |
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| dhellmann | jogo: I wonder if we can drop that neutron-juno job from the kilo configuration? I don't know what that is. | 15:50 |
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| jogo | dhellmann: what is the full job name? that may be the job that checks master is compat with stable juno | 15:50 |
| jogo | which we don't need | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | jogo: gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-novaclient-juno | 15:51 |
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| jogo | dhellmann: yeah there is a patch up to remove that | 15:52 |
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| dhellmann | jogo: ok, cool | 15:52 |
| jogo | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173547/ | 15:53 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: ping | 17:19 |
| russellb | jgrassler: pong | 17:19 |
| russellb | jgrassler: sorry :) | 17:19 |
| russellb | jgriffith: pong | 17:20 |
| jgriffith | russellb: :) | 17:20 |
| jgriffith | russellb: hey ya... so I'm thinking about working on volume-attach for docker virt driver | 17:20 |
| jgriffith | russellb: wondering if you had any insights to the work being done by folks on that front? | 17:20 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: I used to bug ewindisch, but haven't seen him in quite a while | 17:20 |
| russellb | jgriffith: there was a bunch of work done on that, actually | 17:21 |
| russellb | the main issue was that docker itself needed support for it | 17:21 |
| russellb | and i remember a patch being proposed | 17:21 |
| russellb | but i don't remember how it all ended up | 17:21 |
| jgriffith | russellb: Oh... well, seems the docker pass-through stuff is in so "should" work | 17:21 |
| russellb | ok | 17:21 |
| russellb | and you can add it while the container is already running? | 17:21 |
| jgriffith | russellb: Hmm... good point :) | 17:22 |
| jgriffith | russellb: I'll need to back up and look at that | 17:22 |
| jgriffith | russellb: I thought that change went in, but not sure | 17:22 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: I'll sort those parts out, then I guess ping ML or do a BP for the virt driver in Nova? | 17:22 |
| russellb | well the driver isn't in nova anymore | 17:22 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: well... right "nova-docker" | 17:23 |
| russellb | but yeah, can ping ML to see who's still paying attention to it | 17:23 |
| jgriffith | but.. | 17:23 |
| * russellb nods | 17:23 | |
| russellb | i pinged 'Slow' to see if he could join this channel | 17:23 |
| russellb | he was working on this a while ago, trying to see if he can fill in gaps on status | 17:23 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: oh, awesome | 17:24 |
| jgriffith | russellb: BTW... for clarity this is what I'm talking about: http://paste.openstack.org/show/204018/ | 17:24 |
| russellb | no response yet | 17:24 |
| jgriffith | russellb: so the nova-docker piece needs this impl assuming it's doable | 17:24 |
| * russellb nods | 17:24 | |
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| jgriffith | russellb: which I'm happy to tackle if somebody isn't already on it. I'll ping docker channel as well later | 17:25 |
| jgriffith | Meanwhile you were the only person I recognized on the commit list :) | 17:25 |
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| russellb | heh | 17:25 |
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| russellb | i haven't looked at it in ages | 17:25 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: you're just trying to get me to leave you alone :) | 17:25 |
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| russellb | ha, no | 17:26 |
| jgriffith | LOL.. :) | 17:26 |
| russellb | i just don't remember much about the status | 17:26 |
| russellb | and i consider the driver mostly a dead end | 17:26 |
| jgriffith | Ohhh! Hmm... well that's not good to hear. | 17:27 |
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| jgriffith | Sounds like I need to do some info gathering on whether this is even worth the investment or not | 17:27 |
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| russellb | jgriffith: well i think it works, it's just that I'm not sure how interesting it is in terms of supporting what most people are doing with containers | 17:28 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: so are you saying the docker driver in Nova/OpenStack may be a dead end? | 17:28 |
| russellb | yes | 17:28 |
| russellb | I think running something like Kubernetes on top of OpenStack VMs or bare metal is more interesting | 17:29 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: hmmm... so most moving to using *other* orchestration like Kubernetes? | 17:29 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 17:29 |
| russellb | maybe with a Heat template that spins up a set of CoreOS or Atomic hosts | 17:29 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: yah... I can see that as more attractive | 17:29 |
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| russellb | and magnum is another approach ... trying to make that pretty with an openstack API on top | 17:29 |
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| jgriffith | Interesting... I hadn't looked at Magnum | 17:30 |
| russellb | i don't think Magnum changes what you're interested in | 17:30 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: don't suppose there's any momentum behind one direction over another at this point? | 17:31 |
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| russellb | i think there's momentum around the general idea of running Kubernetes on top | 17:31 |
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| russellb | whether you do it some custom way, via a Heat template, or via Magnum, is a bit more of an open question IMO | 17:32 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: Yeah, but that shouldn't necessarily matter for me right now | 17:32 |
| russellb | i'd take a look at app models in kubernetes | 17:32 |
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| russellb | and see what block integration is possible, or could be added there | 17:32 |
| jgriffith | russellb: ok, well thanks for the info. I'll focus on the kubernetes/docker sutff by itsel first | 17:32 |
| russellb | cool :) | 17:32 |
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| jgriffith | russellb: yeah, sounds like great advice. Appreciate the info! | 17:33 |
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| russellb | np | 17:33 |
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| reed | chmouel, Ok, I give up: give me an account on OpenStack Reactions: I'm having enough fun to justify adding another password :) | 17:37 |
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| russellb | Slower: o/ | 17:41 |
| Slower | hey russellb :) | 17:41 |
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| russellb | Slower: jgriffith was wondering how far volume attach support got in nova-docker and i couldn't remember all the details | 17:41 |
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| Slower | well it kind of died off in docker | 17:42 |
| Slower | I spent about 6 mo trying to get the patch in and it kind of just languished | 17:42 |
| Slower | we had to have dynamic support to attach volumes and that was kind of controversial | 17:43 |
| Slower | in the end they said they would do it though | 17:43 |
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| Slower | I think if someone took the time to bring that patch back and open a PR it could get in | 17:46 |
| Slower | then adding volume support is pretty straight forward from there | 17:46 |
| Slower | I think there's even an old patch to do that too | 17:47 |
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| Slower | we had it all working at one point | 17:47 |
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| russellb | jgriffith: ^^^ :) | 17:50 |
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| jgriffith | Slower: cool... I'd love to help out | 17:57 |
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| jgriffith | Slower: if you can point to what was in progress or whatever as a starting point I can try and pick it up | 17:57 |
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| zzzeek | that’s some restart | 18:10 |
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| _qb | anteaya: hi there | 18:22 |
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| anteaya | _qb: hello | 18:24 |
| anteaya | what project do you want to test with a third party ci? | 18:24 |
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| _qb | we're looking at doing Nova first. we want to provide tests against our Xen-based hypervisor | 18:24 |
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| anteaya | _qb: great | 18:25 |
| _qb | we have an Openstack distro, and we also make all kinds of hardware for which plugins/drivers are being developed, so I expect this will grow to where we're testing against lots of different projects | 18:25 |
| anteaya | well BobBall also tests Xen, and has been doing so for some time, he probably would be able to give you a reasonable idea of what kind of resources you would be looking at | 18:26 |
| anteaya | sure that is the most common usecase, start with something and expand | 18:26 |
| anteaya | so let's see if we can help you with some resonable resource estimates for the start with something step | 18:27 |
| anteaya | jogo: are you around? | 18:27 |
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| anteaya | _qb: if you have never seen this graph before it is helpful: https://github.com/openstack/nova/graphs/commit-activity | 18:28 |
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| anteaya | so nova averages somewhere between 80 and 90 merged patches a week, it dips around releases and summits | 18:29 |
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| anteaya | so to test a project you have to test all the patchsets proposed | 18:30 |
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| anteaya | which is substantially higher than merged | 18:30 |
| anteaya | http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ if you filter on nova, you can see how many nova patches are being tested at any given time | 18:31 |
| anteaya | you only have to match what the check pipeline is doing | 18:31 |
| _qb | I've been staring at that zuul status for a while today... | 18:31 |
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| anteaya | what if anything have you picked up from that endeavour? | 18:31 |
| _qb | for third party, you don't ever need to run the gate pipeline? | 18:31 |
| anteaya | no | 18:32 |
| anteaya | you don't ever need to worry about what is in the gate | 18:32 |
| anteaya | just check | 18:32 |
| _qb | hmm, so that implies I don't need an instance of zuul on my side? | 18:32 |
| anteaya | which will be tricky enough | 18:32 |
| anteaya | well you don't have to have your own zuul | 18:32 |
| anteaya | but most folks do | 18:33 |
| anteaya | some run with jenkins and a gerrit trigger plugin | 18:33 |
| anteaya | have you encountered this page yet? http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html | 18:33 |
| anteaya | some important reading there | 18:33 |
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| _qb | yes, I've seen it. I actually have a diagram (pdf) of how I think the components interact | 18:35 |
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| _qb | how do you guys typically share such docs here? | 18:35 |
| anteaya | oh wonderful | 18:35 |
| anteaya | <-- not a guy | 18:35 |
| anteaya | we share many things | 18:35 |
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| anteaya | you are welcome to share your diagram if you wish | 18:35 |
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| anteaya | would really help ensure you are not off in the weeds to begin | 18:35 |
| _qb | sorry, I meant that in a gender neutral way. :) | 18:35 |
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| anteaya | I like folks, people, team, or y'all as gender neutral | 18:36 |
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| _qb | do you also have a preferred method of doc sharing? | 18:36 |
| anteaya | I too have an image I use for how the components interact | 18:36 |
| jogo | anteaya: o/ | 18:36 |
| anteaya | well not really, we use paste for code pasting and etherpad.openstack.org for colloborative editing | 18:37 |
| anteaya | jogo: hey thanks, _qb is looking to get starting with third party ci on nova testing xen | 18:37 |
| anteaya | I use imgur for images | 18:37 |
| anteaya | we don't tend to share entire docs | 18:37 |
| jogo | anteaya: I thought we already had a xen CI | 18:37 |
| anteaya | _qb: any open source solution is fine | 18:38 |
| anteaya | jogo: BobBall runs one, _qb wants to test xen for his/her company | 18:38 |
| anteaya | jogo: which is allowed, it is a big tent/yurt now | 18:38 |
| jogo | anteaya: why two different ones? | 18:38 |
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| jogo | anteaya: right, just trying to understand the reasoning | 18:38 |
| anteaya | jogo: yup | 18:39 |
| anteaya | different company/group | 18:39 |
| _qb | because it's a different xen-based product | 18:39 |
| anteaya | there we go | 18:39 |
| jogo | _qb: what product? and why nt work with BobBall? | 18:39 |
| anteaya | so back to sharing the diagram you have | 18:39 |
| sdague | _qb: is it a different driver in nova? | 18:39 |
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| _qb | sdague: I don't know what he's testing, so I don't know | 18:40 |
| sdague | _qb: he's testing the xenapi driver in nova | 18:40 |
| sdague | I don't know what version of xen is underneath it | 18:41 |
| sdague | it might be in the logs | 18:41 |
| _qb | ours is xen via libvirt | 18:42 |
| sdague | it's fine to provide additional testing here, but it might be worth while to figure out how close it is to the existing setup, mostly because getting Xen testing nested was far from trivial (you'll see a lot of very xen specific things in devstack-gate) | 18:42 |
| sdague | _qb: ok, yeh, that we don't have coverage on at the moment, so would be nice | 18:42 |
| jogo | _qb: ahh | 18:42 |
| _qb | (OracleVM is the product) | 18:42 |
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| anteaya | _qb: jogo and sdague work on nova as well as qa and infra, they are your best resources for getting started | 18:43 |
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| anteaya | _qb: I work in infra and with third party ci operators, so I run meetings and help with general openstack ci things, they can help with nova specific things | 18:44 |
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| _qb | here's the diagram for what it's worth: http://www.beer.net/m/etc/ci.pdf | 18:45 |
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| _qb | if I'm confused it would be good to know that now :) | 18:45 |
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| clarkb | _qb: that generally looks correct | 18:46 |
| clarkb | (one small thing I notice that that the zuul mergers will generally want to talk to gerrit directly so that they don't have to wait for replication to happen to the git mirrors) | 18:47 |
| clarkb | but thats an implementation detail | 18:47 |
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| anteaya | _qb: can we add a line of communication between oracle developers and oracle ci maintainers? | 18:49 |
| anteaya | the success of the system in the community kind of depends on that line | 18:49 |
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| _qb | haha, yes that is understood :) | 18:50 |
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| anteaya | okay good, in many systems it isn't | 18:51 |
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| anteaya | then they are surprised when they have problems | 18:51 |
| anteaya | I see cinder on your diagram | 18:51 |
| anteaya | do you know bruff? | 18:51 |
| anteaya | he is an oracle third party ci operator aimed at cinder | 18:51 |
| _qb | yep, he has been instrumental in getting me up to speed | 18:51 |
| anteaya | okay good | 18:52 |
| anteaya | btw his involvement in the community could be improved as well | 18:52 |
| _qb | we're building a corporate CI system which will be consumed by any internal team who needs it. bruff will be our first customer after we do nova | 18:52 |
| anteaya | I hope that is one of the possible outcomes of this foray | 18:52 |
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| anteaya | oh I see | 18:52 |
| anteaya | you like headaches | 18:52 |
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| _qb | apparently. :) | 18:53 |
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| anteaya | then given that as your scope I definitly would recommend that you dispence with any idea of deploying jenkins with a gerrit trigger plugin | 18:53 |
| anteaya | it won't meet your needs at all | 18:54 |
| anteaya | as your diagram outlines zuul and nodepool is what you should aim for | 18:54 |
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| anteaya | and since I don't know anyone attempting to create an internal ci to be consumed by internal ci operator users | 18:54 |
| anteaya | I couldn't even begin to estimate the resources you will need | 18:55 |
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| anteaya | http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1&leaf_id=7&select_first=true | 18:55 |
| _qb | that was my initial thought as well, but I was confused by how the gate pipeline fits in. I guess given that the fancy speculative patching zuul does was developed for the gate, I guess I just assumed the gate pipeline was needed for third parties as well | 18:55 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: you can talk to mriedem, he has dealt with that | 18:55 |
| anteaya | the left hand side shows the names of all our infra long lived servers, I think we have about 70 of them | 18:56 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: cool, thanks, I didn't know that | 18:56 |
| mriedem | do i need to read scrollback? | 18:56 |
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| mtreinish | mriedem: not really, anteaya was saying she didn't know anyone who has used an internal ci system | 18:56 |
| anteaya | mriedem: mtreinish is spreading the rumour that you have had to deal with an internal ci system that has ci operators as customers | 18:57 |
| mtreinish | and I threw you under the bus | 18:57 |
| anteaya | mriedem: he was going to jump in the grenade but he took the easier route | 18:57 |
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| mriedem | well, | 18:57 |
| _qb | mriedem: we're a large company interested in building a shared ci system which we can then turn around and provide as a service to any internal organization who needs to integrate with upstream CI for some reason | 18:57 |
| mriedem | we have two ci systems internally | 18:57 |
| anteaya | _qb: ah okay, well I am glad you are sharing your thoughts now | 18:58 |
| _qb | apparently you might be doing something similar? | 18:58 |
| mriedem | one for gerrit changes that uses the gerrit trigger plugin to run unit test jobs in a jenkins | 18:58 |
| mriedem | we have another jenkins that runs our deployment chef cookbooks with the packages we build (install/config/start) and then run a subset of tempest on that | 18:58 |
| mriedem | the latter is more or less on a cron, it's not triggered by anything | 18:59 |
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| anteaya | mriedem: that sounds like what most of our ci operators are doing | 18:59 |
| anteaya | or some variation thereof | 18:59 |
| anteaya | was saying that _qb's vision (or some manager's) is that they set up an internal system to serve internal ci operators | 19:00 |
| anteaya | which is a new one for me | 19:00 |
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| mriedem | we are kind of moving to something like that, kind of | 19:00 |
| _qb | it's more that we'll become the ci operator for any internal development org | 19:00 |
| mriedem | there are definitely other teams within ibm that would like to have the infra we have and ask to piggyback their development on ours | 19:00 |
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| anteaya | mriedem: do expand | 19:00 |
| anteaya | ah, how is that going? | 19:00 |
| _qb | yeah, how's that going? :) | 19:01 |
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| mriedem | sorry, in meetings talking about our CI systems now :) | 19:03 |
| mriedem | 2 days going | 19:03 |
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| mriedem | not 'we've been doing this for only 2 days' | 19:03 |
| anteaya | mriedem: 2 days of meetings, got it | 19:03 |
| mriedem | umm, so for our team it fits our needs, we could automate more on the packaging side | 19:03 |
| anteaya | that kind of sums it up right there | 19:03 |
| mriedem | for expanding it to allow other teams to use it, | 19:03 |
| anteaya | mriedem: sorry to disturb, thanks for responding to the hail | 19:04 |
| mriedem | it usually gets mired in politics | 19:04 |
| mriedem | and resources | 19:04 |
| anteaya | yup | 19:04 |
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| anteaya | _qb: so yeah, I guess your success entirely depends on how many resources you can comanndeer, if you are high up the food chain you might make it | 19:05 |
| _qb | I was thinking that a way to minimize headcount required we could simply clone the CI repo from upstream and run things the same way you guys do, but reading list archives suggests it's not easily consumable by third parties right now | 19:06 |
| anteaya | if you are lower level, you will end up like everyone else, expected to set this up in 1 week and forget about it and be shocked it doesn't work that way | 19:06 |
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| anteaya | <-- not a guy | 19:06 |
| anteaya | the best person to talk to about that effort would be asselin | 19:06 |
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| anteaya | he is leading the puppet work to help infra tools be more consumable by third party cis | 19:07 |
| mriedem | yeah, so we basically copy a lot of what community does at a very small scale | 19:07 |
| mriedem | in that we're using jenkins job builder to manage our jenkins jobs | 19:08 |
| mriedem | we use chef, rather than puppet, to manage build slaves | 19:08 |
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| asselin | Hi _qb I think we chatted before in the past | 19:08 |
| mriedem | but basically when some other dev org comes along and says 'i want a project in your gerrit and hook it up to running my unit tests in your jenkins' we point them at our jjb repo and tell them to submit a change for review to add a jenkins job | 19:08 |
| _qb | asselin: hi, yes we did! | 19:08 |
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| _qb | we got svp approval to move fwd based on your help and others, and now I'm trying to get a BOM together | 19:09 |
| mriedem | at the point we tell them it's self service, they get confused b/c they can't follow directions and go away :) | 19:09 |
| anteaya | asselin: care to bring the rest of us up to speed, we are gathering a crowd we might as well have all the facts | 19:09 |
| asselin | _qb, if you want to help out make ci more consumable, here's the spec: | 19:09 |
| asselin | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/openstackci.html | 19:10 |
| * anteaya wonders what a BOM is | 19:10 | |
| _qb | bill of materials | 19:10 |
| asselin | _qb, we're making changes using the gerrit topic downstream-puppet | 19:10 |
| anteaya | mriedem: you are singing my song | 19:10 |
| asselin | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:downstream-puppet,n,z | 19:10 |
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| asselin | _qb, anteaya mriedem you can see the stories here to track progress: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000101 | 19:12 |
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| _qb | asselin: I think we are interested in helping here because it'll make our life way easier too. | 19:13 |
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| asselin | _qb, great! | 19:13 |
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| asselin | _qb, yes there's lots of lives that will improve with this :) | 19:14 |
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| _qb | here's a thought: why does third party CI need to be different from what is done upstream? couldn't things be set up so that the same code runs the check pipeline upstream and at third parties? | 19:14 |
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| _qb | that way when changes are merged in for upstream, they get picked up for third parties too | 19:14 |
| _qb | i.e. hopefully either everyone is broken or no one is | 19:14 |
| asselin | _qb, well...for the most part, that is my ci repo does (https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing) | 19:15 |
| asselin | it basically a out-of-tree copy of upstream + sync of master where possible | 19:16 |
| asselin | eventually, (i hope) it will cease to exist, and we can use upstream | 19:16 |
| _qb | that's what I was getting at, in-tree and just refactor so that the upstream is just another instance of the same thing | 19:17 |
| asselin | _qb, you'll still need some customizations, especially wrt to the jobs....that's the whole point | 19:17 |
| asselin | _qb, that's where we're heading | 19:17 |
| asselin | _qb, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:downstream-puppet+owner:%22Ramy+Asselin+%253Cramy.asselin%2540hp.com%253E%22+status:open,n,z | 19:18 |
| anteaya | _qb: you can learn a lot from asselin | 19:18 |
| asselin | for example ^^ are 3 patches to setup a log server | 19:18 |
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| asselin | test it, and make openstack consume it directly | 19:18 |
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| _qb | well, this looks great. | 19:20 |
| _qb | how can we help? | 19:20 |
| anteaya | _qb: testing and reviewing asselin's patches would be wonderful | 19:21 |
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| asselin | _qb, yes what anteaya said | 19:21 |
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| asselin | _qb, those 3 patches are 'the first' module. | 19:21 |
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| anteaya | as you go through the set up and documentation if you hit bugs or something isn't clear be sure to tell asselin and he can help you navigate our workflow so you can submit patches | 19:22 |
| asselin | _qb, that means they're the hardest in a way.....b/c they set a precedent | 19:22 |
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| anteaya | asselin: and if you hit something you don't know how to address be sure to let us know | 19:22 |
| asselin | _qb, but then we can start to do more with confidence, although surely hit new issues | 19:22 |
| asselin | _qb, you can also join these meetings https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Agenda_for_next_Working_Group_meeting | 19:23 |
| _qb | hm, ok so we're not going to be much use until we get our CI system up and running | 19:24 |
| anteaya | _qb: that usually takes a full release | 19:25 |
| asselin | _qb, start with my repo: (https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing) | 19:25 |
| asselin | _qb, i'm actively maintaining it and keeping it close to upstream | 19:26 |
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| anteaya | _qb: asselin definitly has the best approach for the openstack infra supported direction | 19:26 |
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| _qb | so back to the original question of how much hardware is needed for nova third party... | 19:33 |
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| _qb | zuul status page shows a point-in-time, but what's a good peak value for test WIP? | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | _qb you can ask gerrit for number of $project changes + patchsets over time to calculate rough numbers | 19:35 |
| clarkb | we peak at about 25-30k tests per day | 19:35 |
| clarkb | graphite.openstack.org has those numbers | 19:36 |
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| _qb | thanks! that helps | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | also cacti.openstack.org has stats on the control plane | 19:38 |
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| clarkb | ram disk cpu load io etc | 19:38 |
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| breton | folks, what are proposed/ branches for? | 20:04 |
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| breton | in keystone we had proposed/kilo for some time and now there is stable/kilo | 20:05 |
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| anteaya | breton: well we have been discussing that in -infra for a good chunk of the day | 20:08 |
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| anteaya | bascially when testing something and needing to pull in dependencies our testing structure didn't have a way to deal with proposed possibly not being there in the dependency as it may have become stable | 20:10 |
| anteaya | so rather than having both proposed and stable as well as master as options for what zuul should be looking for when testing all the things together, it was decided that life would be easier for everyone if it just had either stable or master to look for | 20:11 |
| anteaya | does that make sense? | 20:11 |
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| breton | yep, thank you for explanation | 20:13 |
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| breton | anteaya: is there a public announcement of the change? In the ml for example? | 20:15 |
| anteaya | breton: not that I have seen so far | 20:16 |
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| anteaya | breton: you might want to ping ttx or dhellmann about it | 20:16 |
| breton | dhellmann: ttx: ^ | 20:16 |
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| ttx | breton: abit busy right now | 20:18 |
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| breton | ttx: no problems, take your time | 20:19 |
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| dhellmann | breton: proposed branches are meant to be pre-release branches, and turn into stable/ branches. However, we've hit some issues with tooling, so we're renaming the branches early. We're resubmitting any patches that were up for proposed/kilo as a convenience to the original authors/backporters | 20:24 |
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| dhellmann | breton: anteaya's description looks better than mine :-) | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | breton: all of this is in play right now, so when we get it working I expect ttx will send a note to the ML describing it | 20:25 |
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| ttx | breton: yeah, what dhellmann said :) | 20:27 |
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| breton | great, thank you for your work | 20:30 |
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| jogo | dhellmann: ping https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174024/ | 21:28 |
| jogo | dhellmann: wanted to sanity check the idea behind that patch with you | 21:29 |
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| jogo | dhellmann: goal is to be able to automatically tags when possible | 21:29 |
| jogo | and the script would be run by hand every so often | 21:30 |
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