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| med_ | ttx, zul is there a target date for 2015.1.1 in place yet? | 15:44 |
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| med_ | https://launchpad.net/openstack/+milestone/2015.1.1 says the wrong date | 15:44 |
| med_ | 2015-04-02 | 15:44 |
| zul | med_, not that i know of | 15:45 |
| ttx | med_: no there isn't a date yet. Actually at the summit we suggested doing away with point releases since they don't mean anything more than a random commit | 15:45 |
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| ttx | med_: We'll be having a discussion about that on the ML soon | 15:45 |
| med_ | ttx, okay, it came up in several of the Ops Sessions. | 15:45 |
| med_ | thanks, I'll track it there. | 15:45 |
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| Daviey | med_: Was the summary of what ops wanted from point releases? | 15:48 |
| med_ | Daviey, just that many ops have "learned" to wait for the .1 before doing their initial upgrade as a lot of key bugs get fixed between 2015.1.0 and 2015.1.1 | 15:49 |
| med_ | so they want less pain, they wait for .1 | 15:49 |
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| Daviey | med_: Did the types of issues get dug into? Upstream issues, distro issues, dep issues? | 15:50 |
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| med_ | Daviey, not in the sessions I was in, just that there always seems to be a quick little flood of backports to stable as soon as the release comes out. I don't recall hearing any specifics. | 15:51 |
| Daviey | med_: ok, thanks | 15:52 |
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| med_ | Daviey, I've asked in #o-operators Tim Bell is one of the ones that definitely waits though | 15:53 |
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| med_ | mdorman, question in scrollback about why Ops sometimes/typically wait for .1 release before upgrading | 15:56 |
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| med_ | there will be a maillist discussion but Daviey was wondering if there were specific reasons other than "goodness* | 15:57 |
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| mdorman | Daviey: yeah i’d say it’s mainly about getting the first batch of bugfixes | 16:06 |
| mdorman | don’t recall off the top of my head anything specific in the past. it’s more of an intuitive thing | 16:07 |
| mdorman | that and many times we have not had time to do the upgrade before .1 comes out, anyway. | 16:07 |
| Daviey | mdorman: thanks :) | 16:07 |
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| mdorman | personally i would rather see individual releases of each project, with their own version numbering, and then published inter-project version deps… that way we can upgrade each component as necessary when each is released. | 16:08 |
| mdorman | the more i think about it, the more i think the integrated release stuff causes unneeded complexity | 16:08 |
| mdorman | but that is another discussion :) moving in the right direction (imo) with the tagging stuff | 16:08 |
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| jdandrea | dims: Nice meeting you too - thanks again for your help at the conference! | 16:15 |
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| dims | jdandrea: likewise. nice to meet you | 16:16 |
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| med_ | Daviey, Tim Bell said nearly the same thing in twitter. I'll tag you there. | 16:17 |
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| mdorman | tim’s point about “it’s fast enough for our users” is relevant, too. | 16:19 |
| Daviey | med_: thanks | 16:20 |
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| mdorman | being on the latest just for hte sake of being on latest isn’t always valuable enough to be worth the effort | 16:20 |
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| med_ | nod | 16:20 |
| med_ | yw. | 16:20 |
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| ayoung | dims, what is Michael Klishin's IRC handle? Want to connect him with rharwood for getting Kerberos into Erlang and Rabbit | 17:06 |
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| dims | ayoung: haven't seen him on IRC yet | 17:06 |
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| ayoung | dims, is he the only one? Is there someone else from Pivotal? | 17:07 |
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| dims | ayoung: pm | 17:07 |
| dims | pm'ed you the emails | 17:08 |
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| lbragstad | annegentle: dtroyer do you happen to know where the service catalog standardization etherpad went? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/service-catalog-cross-project-vancouver seems to be the wrong one? | 17:53 |
| annegentle | lbragstad: half of it was lost when etherpad came down | 17:53 |
| annegentle | lbragstad: I'll try to re-create from my notes | 17:54 |
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| lbragstad | annegentle: I'll be happy to migrate your notes to that etherpad | 17:54 |
| annegentle | lbragstad: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/228687/ | 17:54 |
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| annegentle | lbragstad: ^^ best we've got | 17:54 |
| lbragstad | annegentle: works for me, I'll see what I can do | 17:55 |
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| lbragstad | annegentle: dtroyer sdague morganfainberg dolphm attempted to rebuild the service catalog etherpad here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/service-catalog-cross-project-vancouver | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | feel free to add to it! | 18:30 |
| annegentle | lbragstad: thank you!!! | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | oh mordred too, I know he was in there ^ | 18:30 |
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| dolphm | lbragstad: thank you! | 18:32 |
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| lbragstad | no problem! | 18:33 |
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