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| kashyap | ttx: What a nice idea on that "everyday OpenStack successes" thread! | 09:07 |
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| ttx | kashyap: glad you like it! | 09:07 |
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| sdague | ttx / flaper87: how many x-project slots are there ? | 12:01 |
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| sdague | and should we get a scratch space together for people up / downing them? | 12:01 |
| flaper87 | sdague: 21 http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/cross+project+workshops#.Vhug-s-1RZI | 12:03 |
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| sdague | flaper87: how do you envision sorting / sifting today? | 12:03 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: I think a scratch space would be great. I'm sending out an email now to remind that adding new proposals is now closed. I couldn't do it on Saturday. | 12:05 |
| flaper87 | sdague: I think we can either vote on IRC or use odsreg comments to vote | 12:05 |
| flaper87 | the later is probably less ideal | 12:05 |
| flaper87 | (vote using meetbot) | 12:05 |
| sdague | flaper87: ok, it's hard to see it all in one go in odsreg. In the past having an etherpad made more sense | 12:05 |
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| sdague | because building a schedule that makes sense includes trade offs usually | 12:06 |
| flaper87 | sdague: yeah, and there are many proposals so, it'll be hard to go through all of them | 12:06 |
| sdague | well, hopefully everyone has already done some of that pre work. | 12:07 |
| sdague | because, yes, there is 0 chance of going through everything in that timeblock. | 12:07 |
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| sdague | ttx: is there a way to get what's in odsreg exported back to something else for commenting? | 12:08 |
| flaper87 | sdague: I was looking into that now :D | 12:08 |
| flaper87 | I'll ping jeblair | 12:08 |
| flaper87 | ops, I just did :P | 12:08 |
| flaper87 | anteaya might know as well ^ | 12:09 |
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| ttx | sdague: I can access the DB and dump it | 12:13 |
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| ttx | sdague: maybe it's time to bring the system down anyway | 12:13 |
| sdague | ttx: that might be best, and get it in an etherpad for sifting | 12:13 |
| ttx | since we are supposedly past the deadline | 12:13 |
| sdague | yep | 12:13 |
| ttx | I'm on it | 12:13 |
| flaper87 | ttx: yeah, I just pinged jeblair about that (taking it down) | 12:13 |
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| sdague | we've only got 27 submissions, so it's going to be minor culling | 12:14 |
| sdague | then shifting into tracks | 12:14 |
| flaper87 | ttx: but he's not around so please, do | 12:14 |
| ttx | flaper87: ack, I'm on it | 12:14 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: thanks | 12:19 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: feel free to dump it somewhere and I'll organize the rest | 12:19 |
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| ttx | TIL: importing a sqlite3 databse crashes Calc | 12:19 |
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| flaper87 | lol | 12:19 |
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| ttx | flaper87, sdague: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1rp1yd0nee2nvye/file.csv?dl=0 | 12:29 |
| ttx | that's the curated csv containing proposer ID, name and description | 12:29 |
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| ttx | you can probably turn that into an etherpad | 12:29 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: yup, lemme do that | 12:30 |
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| sdague | ttx: does it keep any of the existing comments? | 12:41 |
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| sdague | because we had a reasonable amount of those in there | 12:42 |
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| sdague | ttx: this seems to lose all the comments, can we just get the sqlite up somewhere so we can extract all that together? | 12:43 |
| ttx | sdague: oh, hmm, haven't extracted that table | 12:43 |
| flaper87 | sdague: I don't see them so I'd guess it doesn't. | 12:43 |
| ttx | let me throw that sqlite3 db over the wall | 12:43 |
| sdague | great | 12:43 |
| flaper87 | ttx: give us the DATAAAAA! | 12:44 |
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| flaper87 | yelling* | 12:44 |
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| ttx | see pm | 12:45 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: u working on building something from this? | 12:45 |
| ttx | flaper87, sdague: proposals are in cfp_proposals | 12:45 |
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| ttx | comments in cfp_comment | 12:46 |
| ttx | you can join on cfp_proposal.proposer_id=auth_user.id to get auth_user.username | 12:46 |
| flaper87 | ttx: gotcha, thanks! | 12:46 |
| flaper87 | I guess the same to get the comments for a cfp | 12:47 |
| ttx | yeah, you can probably figure it out | 12:47 |
| * flaper87 can't sql | 12:47 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 12:47 |
| ttx | looks like we ned a "dump to etherpad" feature for odsreg | 12:47 |
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| ttx | need* | 12:47 |
| flaper87 | yeah, going to draft a script that we can prob get in | 12:48 |
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| flaper87 | I'll contribute back to our beloved odsreg | 12:48 |
| sdague | honestly, I think odsreg is just not really suitable for this task, because it assumes a single track coordinator | 12:48 |
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| sdague | the data model is just wrong for what's needed here | 12:48 |
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| sdague | flaper87: ok, you are working through sql needed here? | 12:56 |
| flaper87 | yeah, mostly converting that into an etherpad | 12:56 |
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| sdague | ok, cool, I'll leave that to you, I have to run an errand in an hour | 12:57 |
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| anteaya | I do not know how to export things from osdreg, flaper87 | 14:01 |
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| anteaya | just as a data point | 14:01 |
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| anteaya | sounds like you have what you need to move forward | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: ttx https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cross-project-session-planning | 14:03 |
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| sdague | flaper87: so I think we should do the -3 -> +3 scoring we did a couple of times ago | 15:40 |
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| sdague | flaper87: ok, doing some reformating | 16:13 |
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| dhellmann | ayoung: did you see the comments about changing the scope of your cross-project session? | 20:19 |
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| ayoung | dhellmann, nope; l;ink? | 20:19 |
| dhellmann | ayoung: http://odsreg.openstack.org/cfp/details/12 | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | ayoung: if you reply here I can relay -- we're discussing now | 20:20 |
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| ayoung | dhellmann, looking | 20:21 |
| ayoung | dhellmann, so, I think I have a stopga pfor global admin | 20:21 |
| ayoung | dhellmann, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233480/ | 20:22 |
| dhellmann | ayoung: does that need discussion? | 20:22 |
| ayoung | dhellmann, yes, I think so. | 20:22 |
| ayoung | dhellmann, I think we can do that ahead of the summit, though, in the review | 20:23 |
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| dhellmann | ayoung: are you ok with just talking about that, and leaving dynamic policy out of the session? | 20:23 |
| ayoung | if the general approach is OK, then the cross project summit session actuially can focus on making policy bearable | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | or do you want to drop the session entirely? | 20:23 |
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| ayoung | No, not drop | 20:23 |
| ayoung | Ideall,y get approval on the patch prior to summit, focus on long terrm policy approach at summit | 20:23 |
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| ayoung | dhellmann, I can do a better write up. The general approach is this: | 20:24 |
| ayoung | split policy into two pieces; static. dynamic. Static is what is shipped from the projects now | 20:25 |
| ayoung | it is essentially "here is how you match the scope" | 20:25 |
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| ayoung | and an override for admin | 20:25 |
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| dhellmann | ayoung: we don't want the dynamic policy stuff for now, so the question is how do you want to frame the discussion about standardizing policy configuration | 20:25 |
| ayoung | the dynamic portion then moves into middleware, and is used to fine tune the roles used to access the APIs | 20:25 |
| ayoung | dhellmann, many people do. I'm playing middleman here | 20:26 |
| dhellmann | ayoung: I'm just relaying the current discussion on the cross-project track, not the subject as a whole | 20:26 |
| ayoung | where is the discussion | 20:26 |
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| dhellmann | ayoung: the tc is building an etherpad with the track proposals | 20:30 |
| ayoung | dhellmann, tell you what, we probably need the time for the bug-fix approach anyway | 20:30 |
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| ayoung | getting consensus on that will probably take a session, even though it should not | 20:30 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's sort of what I thought | 20:31 |
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| ayoung | so...lets keep that session for the but 968696 workaround, and if we happend to get lucky, I'll prep the dyanic policy stuff as a back up | 20:31 |
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| ayoung | dhellmann, application error trying to modify it | 20:35 |
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| dhellmann | ayoung: it's locked now that we're evaluating them | 20:35 |
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| dhellmann | ayoung: I've relayed the intent | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | ayoung: but tbh, we were much more interested in a discussion of standardizing roles than dynamic policy | 20:36 |
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| ayoung | dhellmann, fine by me. Its all progress | 20:37 |
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