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| Guest70241 | does any one know how to use devstack without docker? | 03:46 |
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| Guest70241 | disable_service? | 03:46 |
| Guest70241 | what is the service name for docker? | 03:47 |
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| Qiming | devstack without docker? | 03:49 |
| Qiming | not sure devstack has plugins for docker, excpet for the nova-docker thing | 03:50 |
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| Guest70241 | ok.. I'm behind a proxy.. | 03:50 |
| Guest70241 | so not able to use docker | 03:50 |
| Guest70241 | while building oemdocker | 03:50 |
| Qiming | and you are using docker with devstack? | 03:51 |
| Guest70241 | nope.. just wanted bring up devstack | 03:51 |
| Guest70241 | docker_build.bash is one of steps it executes as part of stack.sh I guess | 03:51 |
| Guest70241 | docker is trying to pull repository debian | 03:52 |
| Qiming | emm ... never saw that in stacksh | 03:52 |
| Guest70241 | "Step 0: FROM debian:jessie" | 03:52 |
| Guest70241 | after that it says "Get https://index.docker.io/ ... dial tcp .. connection timed out" | 03:53 |
| Guest70241 | I'm however able to reach the images library with wget | 03:53 |
| Qiming | Guest70241, so it is a customized devstack env | 03:54 |
| Guest70241 | I had set https_proxy and http_proxy in my env | 03:54 |
| Qiming | IIUC, no docker logic is in the official devstack repo | 03:54 |
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| Guest70241 | nope.. I haven't changed stack.sh | 03:54 |
| Qiming | maybe someone else has, ;) | 03:55 |
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| Qiming | good luck | 03:55 |
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| leakypipes | jd__: you and me both. can't friggin stand the new Gerrit. :( | 16:45 |
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| jd__ | leakypipes: I'm really frustrated by this login issue… the rest, I'm (almost) getting used to it | 16:48 |
| jd__ | I imagine everyone is moving to gertty though… | 16:49 |
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| leakypipes | jd__: I use both... more and more gertty though since the UI change. And yes, the login issue is complete fail. | 16:49 |
| clarkb | what is the login issue? | 16:49 |
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| leakypipes | clarkb: can't stay logged in for more than 24 hours. | 16:50 |
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| clarkb | hrm I dont notice because gerrit always made me log in a hundred times a day | 16:50 |
| leakypipes | clarkb: lol :) | 16:50 |
| clarkb | (whenever a new tab is used it gets confused) | 16:50 |
| clarkb | this was true of old gerrit too | 16:50 |
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| leakypipes | clarkb: ya, but it gets really annoying when you're in the middle of writing smoe review comments, hit save, and gerrit throws away your review comments and redirects you to a login. | 16:51 |
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| leakypipes | clarkb: I would contribute to Gerrit, but I don't feel like learning Java from the 90s and Prolog. | 16:52 |
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| leakypipes | clarkb: whatever happened to that Vinz project? | 16:52 |
| clarkb | it never caught on | 16:52 |
| jd__ | the old Gerrit kept me login for 7 days | 16:53 |
| jd__ | which was acceptable | 16:53 |
| clarkb | I proposed it to a universoty capstone group at one time but they all ran away from the java scripts | 16:53 |
| leakypipes | heh | 16:53 |
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| clarkb | looks like cache.web_sessions.maxAge should be configurable but dont know if that is sufficient | 16:57 |
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| clarkb | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit/tree/templates/gerrit.config.erb#n103 | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | fungi jeblair ^ maybe we should bump that number? | 17:01 |
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| jeblair | leakypipes: gerrit's next next-gen ui, polygerrit, is at least similar in spirit to vinz if not tech -- they're using polymer to make a web frontend and gerrit will just be a rest api server | 17:06 |
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| clarkb | jeblair sort of, there is a separate additional http server written in go aiui | 17:07 |
| clarkb | which sort of make the idea :( for me | 17:07 |
| jeblair | nice. nobody mentioned that when talking about it at the summit. | 17:08 |
| jeblair | i guess it could just be inferred since they're from google. | 17:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair I recall nibalizer saying it was part of his test deploy | 17:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb, jd__: are you saying that the authentication timeout is now an absolute 24 hours since authn, rather than 24 hourse idle? | 17:08 |
| clarkb | uh, I only just heard of the issue so dont know the answer to that. | 17:09 |
| clarkb | jeblair however the gerrit cache docs say max age is absolute not relative to activity | 17:10 |
| jeblair | wow | 17:11 |
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| clarkb | "removed from cache and refreshed every max age interval" specificslly | 17:13 |
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| fungi | that seems less than ideal | 17:17 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: https://gerrit.googlesource.com/gerrit/+/master/polygerrit-ui/server.go is the polygerrit go server thing | 17:21 |
| clarkb | looks like its mostly a proxy, so maybe it isn't required | 17:21 |
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| clarkb | possibly as CORS workaround | 17:23 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: makes sense | 17:25 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: i would like to mitigate the "must log in again every 24h" problem, but, if it's an absolute time, what value makes sense? "must log in every 2 days?" 5 or 7 days? hopefully the working set for the session cache will not be too much larger, but we may run into a performance change if it is. | 17:27 |
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| clarkb | ya, the docs point out that its not a cheap cache entry. 346 bytes per | 17:27 |
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| clarkb | which is still probably far less than whatever is causing problems iwth the heap | 17:28 |
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| clarkb | with a few thousand users thats still on the order of a megabyte | 17:29 |
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| jd__ | jeblair: it used to be an absolute 7 days before IIRC | 17:50 |
| jd__ | I used to log in every Monday :) | 17:50 |
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| jeblair | jd__: i thought it was 24 hours idle -- which would still get you the same behavior if you used gerrit daily except on weekends. | 17:52 |
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| jd__ | jeblair: hum possible I guess :) | 17:53 |
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| SpamapS | mestery: I've been looking at ovsdb | 18:24 |
| SpamapS | mestery: it looks like it is Java, and entirely in-memory | 18:24 |
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| thingee | annegentle: hi | 18:41 |
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| thingee | annegentle: you want to hold a cross-project meeting for the service catalog spec? | 18:44 |
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| annegentle | thingee: hey! I was thinking about holding a session for the updates to the REST API documentation tooling. | 19:36 |
| annegentle | thingee: I have a blog post going live next week and wanted to see if you think a cross project meeting would help spread the word | 19:37 |
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| thingee | annegentle: certainly. could also mention it in the weekly dev summary if you have a link for me to reference | 20:53 |
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| leakypipes | sigmavirus24: couldn't agree with your concerns more. (on the image import stuff) | 20:57 |
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| annegentle | thingee: hm, I could ask Alison to publish today, but would rather wait until Monday and announce in next week's dev summary | 21:01 |
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| annegentle | timing timing | 21:01 |
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| leakypipes | sigmavirus24: though I disagree with your end solution (I think it can be simpler still and hide all of the import/translation/quarantine implementation entirely from the user) | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | leakypipes: sure, but my solution is also closest to the existing v2 API for it to at least be somewhat familiar | 21:05 |
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| sigmavirus24 | But yeah, I'm just trying to simplify that spec because it is not exactly ... optimal | 21:05 |
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| leakypipes | sigmavirus24: I'm proposing to not change anything at all about the v2 API. do an image-create, then image-upload just like normal, but for shops that need to validate/verify the upload, the image status would be QUARANTINED insted of ACTIVE once the upload completes. | 21:06 |
| thingee | annegentle: sounds good | 21:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | leakypipes: that's not the only consideration though sadly | 21:07 |
| leakypipes | sigmavirus24: what asre other considerations that cannot be met with that flow? | 21:07 |
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| annegentle | thingee: what's the process for calling a cross-project meeting | 21:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | Apparently at some point in the past, a (D)DoS attack against our (Rackspace's) public cloud occurred that was directly related to the current (simple) image upload workflow | 21:07 |
| leakypipes | annegentle: smoke signal and carrier pidgeon. | 21:07 |
| leakypipes | sigmavirus24: erm, that is a failure to place rate limiting in front of the Glance API services, nothing about Glance's API for getting image bits into the cloud. | 21:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | leakypipes: so apparently image-upload isn't optimal for our use cases (I wasn't around when that attack happened and haven't received any details around it exactly) | 21:09 |
| thingee | annegentle: aside from the service catalog meeting which is meeting weekly, we haven't done a one time meeting. We've just done the add an item to the cross project meeting to call for one | 21:09 |
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| thingee | annegentle: and if there is nothing on the agenda we skip. | 21:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | leakypipes: actually I think it has to do with image bits to glance server to backing storage (in our case Swift) | 21:09 |
| leakypipes | thingee: I much preferred smoke signals :) | 21:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm not saying they're right, I can just also understand why you'd want to mimic AWS's flow | 21:09 |
| annegentle | thingee: all my pigeons are out! :) | 21:10 |
| leakypipes | sigmavirus24: glance image-create --copy-from <SWIFT_LOCATION> has existed for 3+ years :) | 21:10 |
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| annegentle | thingee: ok I'll add to the agenda then | 21:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | leakypipes: exactly | 21:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | actually, I think --copy-from disappeared in v2 | 21:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | I think that's technically a task now? | 21:13 |
| leakypipes | eww. | 21:13 |
| leakypipes | :) | 21:13 |
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| annegentle | thingee: I put us down both as chairs, but I can run it as needed | 21:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | leakypipes: *shrug* | 21:15 |
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| thingee | annegentle: excellent! | 21:16 |
| sigmavirus24 | leakypipes: I'm just hoping to stop an overly complicated API design from landing | 21:16 |
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| leakypipes | sigmavirus24: I tried to do that back in 2011 ;) | 21:17 |
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| annegentle | thingee: email going next | 21:18 |
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| sigmavirus24 | heh | 21:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | leakypipes: I wasn't even alive in 2011 :P | 21:20 |
| leakypipes | sigmavirus24: lol | 21:21 |
| thingee | notsogentle: I'll make a note to reference the email thread in the next dev summary | 21:22 |
| notsogentle | thingee: good idea! thanks | 21:23 |
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| notsogentle | thingee: /me writes post :) | 21:23 |
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| notsogentle | hee yours is so cas already :) | 21:27 |
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| thingee | haha | 21:28 |
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| rcrit | dtroyer, ping re stud in devstack | 22:01 |
| mriedem | is stackalytics busted? doesn't seem to be tracking recent review activity | 22:01 |
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| notsogentle | mriedem: I noticed that myself yesterday. | 22:03 |
| notsogentle | mriedem: so, good question | 22:03 |
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| dkranz | ayoung: Is there a reason there are no keystone log files in the tempest runs? | 22:15 |
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| dkranz | ayoung: I would have expected a screen-** file here http://logs.openstack.org/18/262218/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/f808f24/logs/ | 22:16 |
| bknudson_ | dkranz: they're in apache/ | 22:17 |
| bknudson_ | because keystone runs in apache by default | 22:17 |
| clarkb | dkranz: if you grep for keystone it will show you where the logs are | 22:17 |
| clarkb | the help footer explains it | 22:17 |
| dkranz | clarkb: thanks! I didn't notice when this changed. | 22:18 |
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| dkranz | clarkb: link is broken though http://logs.openstack.org/18/262218/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/f808f24/logs/screen-key.txt.gz | 22:19 |
| clarkb | dkranz: yes because eventlet was not used | 22:19 |
| clarkb | some jobs use eventlet, others use apache | 22:19 |
| dkranz | clarkb: ok :) | 22:20 |
| clarkb | at least until keystone stops supporting eventlet entirely | 22:20 |
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| bknudson_ | the only job using eventlet now runs only in keystone | 22:44 |
| bknudson_ | should say the only job running keystone in eventlet | 22:45 |
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