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| Nakato | lifeless: upper-constraints isn't getting updated on liberty is it, with reference to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ correct? | 02:11 |
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| lifeless | Nakato: its a bit messy right now, the new backwards compat spec will clear it up | 02:24 |
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| lifeless | Nakato: it has had some updated | 02:24 |
| lifeless | Nakato: with the spec, it will be updated regularly | 02:25 |
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| tiswanso | Anyone have advice on how I can take over another user's abandoned review? pull the prior patch and resubmit a new patch? | 16:53 |
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| clarkb | tiswanso: core reviewers for the project or the change owner can unabandon | 17:04 |
| clarkb | tiswanso: its usually best ot unabandon and push a new patchset in order to keep all the review comments in one plcae | 17:04 |
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| tiswanso | clarkb: ahh...I see. Yeah, I tried proposing a new change and got that comment :-) | 17:05 |
| tiswanso | clarkb: can a core allow the review to be taken over by a different person? | 17:05 |
| clarkb | tiswanso: nothing special is needed to take over a review, you just push to it. In this case you have to unabandon the change first though | 17:06 |
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| tiswanso | clarkb: cool! thanks for the help. I'll go ping some cores now | 17:06 |
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| markmcclain1 | mordred: have a moment to talk os-client-config? | 18:03 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: I always have a moment to talk os-client-config | 18:10 |
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| markmcclain1 | mordred: so ran across a strange issue | 18:11 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: those are pretty much 100% of occ's world :) | 18:11 |
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| markmcclain1 | what is the precedence for options | 18:12 |
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| markmcclain1 | environ and then argparse options | 18:12 |
| markmcclain1 | or should argparse options trump environ? | 18:12 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: checking | 18:13 |
| mordred | markmcclain1: I _believe_ argparse should win | 18:13 |
| markmcclain1 | ok | 18:13 |
| mordred | in fact, yeah - because envvars are going to go into a cloud named "envvars" and then argparse are passed to get_one_cloud('envvars') to overlay on top of them | 18:14 |
| markmcclain1 | working through an issue where OS_TENANT_NAME is trumping --os-project-name | 18:14 |
| mordred | ah. interesting | 18:14 |
| markmcclain1 | so when keystone looks for project-name option it is missing | 18:14 |
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| mordred | there is some ugly code to handle those - I could imagine a bug for sure | 18:14 |
| markmcclain1 | falls back to tenant_name in auth | 18:14 |
| mordred | because OS_TENANT_NAME is set but empty or something? | 18:14 |
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| markmcclain1 | no there was trash in the environment | 18:15 |
| mordred | markmcclain1: occ internally collapses tenant_name and project_name into config['project_name'] | 18:15 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: is this with neutronclient? | 18:15 |
| markmcclain1 | yes | 18:15 |
| mordred | k. it might have to do with neutornclient setting default values to argparse based on envvars | 18:15 |
| mordred | lemme double check | 18:16 |
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| markmcclain1 | yeah it does do that | 18:16 |
| mordred | (even still, --os-project-name should trump --os-tenant-name if both are passed with values on the command line) | 18:16 |
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| mordred | so I would _still_ expect the right thing to happen here | 18:16 |
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| markmcclain1 | mordred: it's preferring the OS_TENANT_NAME env var or the command line | 18:18 |
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| adam_g | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-neutronclient/tree/neutronclient/shell.py#n557 | 18:20 |
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| mordred | yah. so, I need to followup patch to get neutronclient out of the business of doing that | 18:21 |
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| mordred | we have added more things in occ to be able to handle that | 18:21 |
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| mordred | however- it STILL shouldn't be breaking in the way you're seeing | 18:21 |
| mordred | because http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/config.py#n503 | 18:22 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: I'm going to have to dig in for a little bit - I do not see immediate reasons as to why you'd see that behavior - but that behavior is definitely no expect | 18:23 |
| mordred | not expected | 18:23 |
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| markmcclain1 | mordred: so I think I've isolated it | 18:23 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: ooh! you are magical pony | 18:24 |
| markmcclain1 | mordred: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/config.py#n451 | 18:24 |
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| markmcclain1 | basically the call to fix things up | 18:24 |
| mordred | yeah? | 18:25 |
| markmcclain1 | moves tenant_name sourced from the environ to ['auth']['project_name'] | 18:25 |
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| mordred | yah | 18:25 |
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| markmcclain1 | so now that the correct key exists in the auth config | 18:26 |
| markmcclain1 | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/config.py#n469 | 18:26 |
| markmcclain1 | oops wrong line | 18:26 |
| markmcclain1 | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/config.py#n465 | 18:26 |
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| markmcclain1 | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/config.py#n816 | 18:27 |
| markmcclain1 | is always going to find a project name | 18:27 |
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| mordred | AH yes | 18:28 |
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| mordred | because ['auth']['project_name'] is going to beat ['project_name'] which is what the argparse addition is goign to do | 18:29 |
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| markmcclain1 | right | 18:29 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: awesome. also, damn. but awesome | 18:30 |
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| markmcclain1 | mordred: yeah this is crazy one | 18:31 |
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| markmcclain1 | mordred: was thinking of making the fix auth gather are potential auth keys into the auth dict | 18:32 |
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| markmcclain1 | before normalizing the names | 18:32 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: I wonder if maybe we shouldn't move the fix-auth until later | 18:32 |
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| mordred | once we've collected all of the things like argparse into the base config dict | 18:33 |
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| markmcclain1 | mordred: makes sense | 18:34 |
| mordred | markmcclain1: somethign like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/483807 | 18:34 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: if that fixes it for you, I can work that up into a real patch with tests and stuff | 18:35 |
| markmcclain1 | ok.. I'll test when the meeting I'm in is up | 18:35 |
| mordred | kk | 18:35 |
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| mordred | markmcclain1: https://review.openstack.org/267092 with a unittest that shows the failure and verifies the fix | 18:46 |
| mordred | markmcclain1: (the unittest fails as expected when the patch is not applied) | 18:46 |
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| mordred | adam_g: ^^ you too | 18:48 |
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| markmcclain1 | mordred: that fix works | 18:52 |
| mordred | markmcclain1: woot! | 18:53 |
| mordred | markmcclain1: thanks for doing the detective work - it's very spaghetti in that area at the moment and I really want to refactor the layers of config so that it's clearer what's going on and what is from where | 18:54 |
| markmcclain1 | mordred: you're welcome... that was the first time that I dug into the occ it was fairly easy to navigate within the code | 18:55 |
| mordred | oh good! | 18:55 |
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| njohnston | Quick git question... I am working on a change with another fellow. The change is on PatchSet 10. We both start work on separate areas; he commits his changes, which become PS 11. If I was to upload my changes, however, it would become a new PS12 that completely stomps my colleague's PS11 changes. How can I do the equivalent of a rebasing, but have it be a rebase between PatchSets that keeps everything inside t | 19:02 |
| njohnston | he same commit, so that I can commit my changes gracefully on top of my colleague's changes? | 19:02 |
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| anteaya | git review -d <gerrit patchnumber> | 19:11 |
| anteaya | pulls the patchset to your local env | 19:11 |
| anteaya | so either do that first and work ontop of it | 19:12 |
| anteaya | or do that and merge your changes | 19:12 |
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| njohnston | OK, I just did that, and it overwrote the files I had changed (glad I saved the directory tree to a new location). | 19:19 |
| njohnston | So I guess I will need to do a 'git diff' in my saved directory tree, and swivel-chair the changes in. | 19:19 |
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| anteaya | yes | 19:21 |
| anteaya | if you use git review -d it should create a new branch for the patch it pulls down | 19:21 |
| anteaya | did it not do that? | 19:21 |
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| anteaya | so if you were working in a branch for your changes, using git review -d should have pulled down the latest patchset in a new branch | 19:23 |
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| njohnston | I had previously run 'git review -d' to create the branch I was working on, so rerunning the exact same 'git review -d' command recreated the same branch name that I had been working on before. That must have been my mistake. | 19:26 |
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| anteaya | oh yeah that would do it | 19:27 |
| anteaya | now I understand | 19:27 |
| njohnston | Thanks for chatting with me about this, anteaya. | 19:27 |
| anteaya | thanks for sharing your experience | 19:28 |
| anteaya | I appreciate it, I hadn't envisioned your actions | 19:28 |
| anteaya | :) | 19:28 |
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| adam_g | mordred, w00t thanks | 19:32 |
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| mordred | adam_g: hopeully get you a new release todayish | 19:34 |
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| anteaya | thingee: have you met piet? | 20:32 |
| anteaya | piet is the ptl for all things ux | 20:32 |
| thingee | anteaya: yes | 20:33 |
| anteaya | thingee: he was looking for who does the newsletter | 20:33 |
| anteaya | thingee: awesome | 20:33 |
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| ZiLi0n | Hello everyone, I am setting up a three node setup, with data/tenant vlan-based network. I have created a bridge br-vlan and associated with corresponding physical interface eth1. However I don't see a default gateway in the namespace (network node) when I create a VLAN network, so that I can't assing floating ips from an external network, to a vm connected to this tenant vlan i have created. What should I checked? | 20:50 |
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| anteaya | ZiLi0n: the #openstack channel is probably your better bet for deployment questions, this channel is for questions about developing the code | 21:11 |
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| ZiLi0n | anteaya, thanks very much, I will ask there. Now I have solved that problem, but now I am running into another one. I have disabled security groups in Neutron, but when I create an instance, it does not boot up, because it says is looking for the list_of_security_groups I can't find it, 404 Not found. Actually I had to disable security_groups, because I have port_security disabled in the network, and the ovs log was saying that if port_sec | 21:14 |
| ZiLi0n | urity should be enabled to set the corresponding security_groups | 21:14 |
| ZiLi0n | hehe | 21:14 |
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| anteaya | again #openstack is your best bet | 21:15 |
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| ZiLi0n | ok, thanks a lot! I will ask over there | 21:15 |
| ZiLi0n | thanks! | 21:15 |
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| anteaya | welcome | 21:27 |
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| smckee | Hi everyone, does anybody know of someone at openstack who handles a lot of Git merging/pull request integration types of tasks? | 21:51 |
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| anteaya | what do you need | 21:54 |
| anteaya | every developer does as part of their workflow | 21:55 |
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| smckee | I'm hoping to find someone who does it quite a lot. I'm working on a study that aims to find out more about the workflow of people who do these kinds of large-scale code merging tasks | 21:58 |
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| anteaya | we all do | 22:07 |
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| anteaya | is there any information on the study you can provide? | 22:07 |
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| anteaya | it is affliated with an educational institution? | 22:07 |
| smckee | Yes, I'm working with Dr. Danny Dig at Oregon State University. | 22:08 |
| anteaya | and actually we work with git everyday but none of us merge | 22:08 |
| anteaya | as our merging is automated as part of our workflow | 22:08 |
| smckee | The study started out as something to study how people resolve merge conflicts | 22:08 |
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| anteaya | this is our developer workflow: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 22:09 |
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| anteaya | oh okay well if merge conflicts is your primary focus we might be a bit of a dry well | 22:09 |
| anteaya | merges to master are automated | 22:09 |
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| anteaya | we have rebase conflicts | 22:09 |
| anteaya | simple rebase conflicts are solved by clicking the rebase button on a patch | 22:10 |
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| smckee | Ya, I've noticed that about some projects. It's an easy resolution | 22:10 |
| anteaya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267171/1 | 22:10 |
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| anteaya | for example here | 22:10 |
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| anteaya | complex rebases have to take place locally | 22:10 |
| smckee | but with larger projects that require backporting and things like that, you end up having to deal with some major conflicts | 22:10 |
| anteaya | but our workflow minimizes the time needed to be spent there | 22:10 |
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| smckee | OK, interesting | 22:11 |
| smckee | Definitely good to do when you can pull it off :) | 22:11 |
| anteaya | it is the only way we can handle the volume of new contributors | 22:11 |
| anteaya | many of which haven't done open source work before | 22:11 |
| anteaya | many of which haven't used git before | 22:11 |
| smckee | I was actually looking around logs, and all I could find was Jenkins and Gerrit handling everything for you | 22:12 |
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| anteaya | yes | 22:12 |
| anteaya | that is how our system is set up | 22:12 |
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| anteaya | so I don't think we are a good candidate for your study evaluating merging decisions | 22:12 |
| smckee | Ya, it's really clean. | 22:12 |
| anteaya | it is | 22:12 |
| smckee | Alright, thanks anyway! | 22:12 |
| anteaya | thanks for dropping by | 22:13 |
| anteaya | hope you find some subjects for your stude | 22:13 |
| anteaya | study* | 22:13 |
| smckee | It's still interesting to know how things operate within different projects, even if I don't get the data. | 22:13 |
| smckee | Thanks :) | 22:13 |
| anteaya | sure | 22:13 |
| anteaya | if you want to know more about how our workflow works read the infra manual I linked to | 22:14 |
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| anteaya | then if you want more I can link you to videos of talks by some of our infra team (the team that runs the tools for development) that explains it more | 22:14 |
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| anteaya | but start with the infra manual | 22:15 |
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| smckee | Ya, I'll definitely take a look at it and get back to you if I need more. It could definitely become relevant if we notice certain patterns with certain infra setups | 22:16 |
| anteaya | yup | 22:16 |
| anteaya | our system is becoming popular | 22:16 |
| anteaya | more and more projects are adopting the workflow | 22:16 |
| anteaya | as it works with many many developers | 22:16 |
| smckee | Oh ya, it was the first major open source project that I thought of off the top of my head | 22:16 |
| anteaya | nice | 22:16 |
| anteaya | thanks for that | 22:16 |
| anteaya | let me know if you want names of other projects using our tools/workflow | 22:17 |
| anteaya | or some of the tools we use, for instance gerrit which we use is used a lot | 22:17 |
| smckee | Ya, and thanks again for your time! I never know when I'm going to jump into an IRC channel and just get flamed | 22:17 |
| anteaya | yup | 22:17 |
| anteaya | it alwasys is a roll of the dice | 22:17 |
| anteaya | nice courage | 22:18 |
| anteaya | I too enjoyed our chat | 22:18 |
| smckee | Do you know of other projects that have stated to adopt your tools/workflow? | 22:18 |
| anteaya | yes | 22:18 |
| smckee | *started | 22:18 |
| anteaya | do you want names? | 22:18 |
| smckee | That would be great, if it's not too much trouble | 22:18 |
| anteaya | no, I just didn't want to pollute if you didn't want them | 22:18 |
| anteaya | wikimedia off the top of my head | 22:18 |
| anteaya | hashar in #openstack-infra works on wikimedia | 22:19 |
| anteaya | there are others | 22:19 |
| anteaya | waynr in #openstack-infra also uses them but I don't know what company he works with | 22:19 |
| anteaya | hpe has an internal system | 22:19 |
| anteaya | those are the names I have without asking others | 22:20 |
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| anteaya | join #openstack-infra and I'll introduce you to the channel | 22:20 |
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| anteaya | then I have to offline but others may respond | 22:20 |
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| smckee | Ok, will do | 22:20 |
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