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| Balu_ | Hi Team, I am new to this openstack group and having 3+ years experience in OpenSatck Cloud and 10+ years of experience in IT, please guide me how can i participate for development activities, please help me out and suggest right direction. | 07:36 |
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| Balu_ | I would like to work on bug fixes to understand the development environement and process practically.. and coding related .. | 07:38 |
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| cartik | i have some set of security rules to be created whenever i create a tenant/projcet are there any policy.json or some file to achieve the same | 11:22 |
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| ciprian-barbu | hi, I have a change in gerrit that I'm trying to upstream | 11:56 |
| ciprian-barbu | but I cannot understand why jenkins verification fails | 11:56 |
| ciprian-barbu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315171/ | 11:56 |
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| dims_ | lifeless : sdague : markmcclain : please review the requirements team meeting logs when you get a chance - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-05-18-12.00.log.html and join us on #openstack-requirements | 12:57 |
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| sdague | dims_: will do. Though is there a reason to not do requirements in #dev? | 13:02 |
| sdague | it seems like the consequences are pretty wide in the community, and doing more of that over here might help people understand more | 13:03 |
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| dims_ | sdague : when we discuss an actual problem then we can definitely bring it here. | 13:07 |
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| dims_ | sdague : channel seems to help with the social aspect of getting a bunch of new folks together | 13:08 |
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| mriedem | jhesketh: dims: the spec for this is approved, can we get the bp approved? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.policy/+spec/policy-in-code | 13:20 |
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| mriedem | oops, s/jhesketh/harlowja/ | 13:24 |
| mriedem | dims_: can you approve that bp? ^ | 13:24 |
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| dims_ | mriedem : done | 13:25 |
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| tpsilva | why doesn't this go to gate? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315758/ | 13:28 |
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| jgriffith | tpsilva: maybe try a recheck to see if it gets picked up? | 13:30 |
| tpsilva | jgriffith: already did | 13:30 |
| jgriffith | tpsilva: ahh... 5:36 yeah | 13:30 |
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| jgriffith | tpsilva: other trick I use is update the commit. But I don't know if that will help you here or not | 13:31 |
| jgriffith | sometimes works, sometimes doesn't | 13:31 |
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| tpsilva | jgriffith: rebasing it shouldn't lose the workflow+1 right? | 13:31 |
| jgriffith | tpsilva: nope, trivial rebase should restore | 13:32 |
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| jgriffith | tpsilva: oh...ummm | 13:35 |
| jgriffith | tpsilva: you should just be patient for a while, like at least a day | 13:36 |
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| jgriffith | tpsilva: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 13:36 |
| jgriffith | tpsilva: the queue is pretty backed up, you won't be able to change that | 13:36 |
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| jroll | it isn't in the gate though :/ | 13:36 |
| anteaya | tpsilva: that change is a child of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315655/1 which is not approved for merging | 13:37 |
| jgriffith | jroll: true, but honestly why bother trying to shove it in there right now | 13:37 |
| tpsilva | anteaya: yep, just noticed that | 13:37 |
| jroll | aha, anteaya for the win | 13:37 |
| jroll | jgriffith: sure :) | 13:37 |
| anteaya | tpsilva: zuul won't put your change in the gate if it depends on a parent that is not approved | 13:37 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: nice eye | 13:37 |
| anteaya | jroll: :) | 13:37 |
| anteaya | thanks | 13:37 |
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| tpsilva | anteaya, jgriffith, jroll: do you guys know the irc nick of this sean m collins? | 13:43 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: | 13:44 |
| anteaya | and I'm not a guy | 13:44 |
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| tpsilva | anteaya: sorry :) | 13:44 |
| tpsilva | sc68cal: ping | 13:44 |
| anteaya | okay, I prefer folks, team, group, people | 13:45 |
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| jgriffith | anteaya: how about "flock" | 13:45 |
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| anteaya | jgriffith: I can live with flock | 13:46 |
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| anteaya | I can also tolerate cats, when used sparingly | 13:46 |
| jgriffith | anteaya: haha | 13:46 |
| anteaya | :) | 13:46 |
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| sc68cal | anteaya: my client just crashed, resend? | 13:51 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: oh I was just telling tpsilva your irc nick | 13:51 |
| tpsilva | sc68cal: hey | 13:51 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: I didn't actually say anything to you, not even ping | 13:51 |
| sc68cal | hmm, starting off right with 'this sean m collins' | 13:52 |
| tpsilva | sc68cal: I'm not familiar with devstack team | 13:52 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-dev/%23openstack-dev.2016-05-18.log.html#t2016-05-18T13:43:53 | 13:52 |
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| tpsilva | sc68cal: thank you, I was going to ask for this rebase :) | 14:00 |
| tpsilva | sc68cal: this should fix our manila CI, thanks a lot :) | 14:00 |
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| YorikSar | dims_: bad idea linking to lines in layout.yaml master. Those links seem to be invalidated 5 minutes after they are posted. | 14:03 |
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| dims_ | YorikSar :) | 14:03 |
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| YorikSar | dims_: btw, I don't see "check-requirements" in any of monasca projects. Where did they point to? | 14:04 |
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| dims_ | YorikSar : i was trying to point at where they should be. you can search for "check-requirements" elsewhere in the file | 14:07 |
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| YorikSar | dims_: Oh, ok. I thought not only line numers changed, but jobs were already gone as well :) | 14:08 |
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| dims_ | YorikSar : i was basically telling monasca folks where they should be adding the "check-requirements" | 14:09 |
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| dims_ | reused a really long comment in a review and turned that into an email :) | 14:09 |
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| YorikSar | dims_: I wonder what will be the future of this text - it can be like: review comment -> email -> wiki -> project doc -> ... | 14:11 |
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| dims_ | YorikSar : come find out :) we had a kickoff team meeting today http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-05-18-12.00.log.html | 14:12 |
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| jroll | random find of the day: https://teespring.com/you-wouldnt-reimplement-an-api | 16:14 |
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| mugsie | sdague: just put up a POC / WIP of the status codes thing we talked about yesterday - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318281/1 | 18:43 |
| mugsie | http status codes* | 18:44 |
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| sdague | mugsie: ok, I'll take a look | 18:45 |
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| sdague | ok, that looks interesting. I think we should spit ball this with anne and folks as well. You want to start an ML thread somewhere? | 18:52 |
| sdague | oh, I just saw it | 18:52 |
| sdague | so, never mind | 18:52 |
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| mugsie | yeah, I figured it would need a bit of talking | 18:55 |
| mugsie | I always find actually having something to talk around make it easier though | 18:55 |
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| bswartz | tonyb: ping re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314631/1 | 19:00 |
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| bswartz | tonyb: I don't see a reference to python-bitrot/peridoc jobs in the link you provided | 19:01 |
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| sdague | mugsie: yeh, definitely | 19:09 |
| sdague | thanks for that | 19:09 |
| sdague | I put some comments back on the list, and will ponder more | 19:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/governance: Adds the Sphinx extension used to publish API reference docs https://review.openstack.org/317686 | 19:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance: clarify language about expectations for cycle-with-intermediary releases https://review.openstack.org/318319 | 20:11 |
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| mriedem | nikhil: sigmavirus24: jokke_: flaper87: we got a nova bug today that was a duplicate, fix for it is in glanceclient here, has a +2 already, been up for 2.5 months https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287628/ | 20:26 |
| mriedem | 12 LOC | 20:26 |
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| nikhil | mriedem: OK thanks for raising | 20:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | i'll look at it now mriedem | 20:29 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: hi, about api-ref docs | 20:31 |
| sdague | samueldmq: yep... | 20:31 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: so, first I need to make a few definitions clear in my mind | 20:32 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: old (current for keystone) are written in WADL standard | 20:32 |
| samueldmq | sdague: both swagger and raml are other standards, but we aren't going with none of them | 20:32 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: we picked .rst format instead (with no defined standard to define http opertions) | 20:33 |
| samueldmq | and extended it to support our needs when building the docs | 20:33 |
| samueldmq | is this correct? | 20:34 |
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| sdague | mostly, though it's best to think about it this way | 20:34 |
| sdague | WADL, OpenAPI (swagger), and RAML are API design tools that give you a machine readable version of an API | 20:34 |
| sdague | which you can then build a tool which compiles that to an API reference website | 20:35 |
| sdague | we are just building the API reference website, in RST | 20:35 |
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| sdague | and built some sphinx stanzas to allow some of the data to be structured/semistructured and converted into some common elements (like tables) | 20:35 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: so sphinx stanzas are our tolls to compile the api reference website | 20:36 |
| sdague | well sphinx is our tool to take RST and make HTML | 20:37 |
| sdague | which is used everywhere in the community | 20:37 |
| samueldmq | sdague: and we are following no w3c standards to describe the APIs | 20:37 |
| sdague | there are no w3c standards | 20:37 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: the standard we are using is something we (openstck community) have designed for our needs | 20:37 |
| samueldmq | right? | 20:37 |
| sdague | it's not a standard | 20:38 |
| samueldmq | which is something based on .rst | 20:38 |
| sdague | a standard is a formal specification | 20:38 |
| samueldmq | sdague: agree, you're correct | 20:38 |
| samueldmq | sdague: it's the alternative we're using to existing standards like WADL/etc | 20:38 |
| sdague | we don't have a formal specification, we have "write rst because it's slightly easier than writing raw html" | 20:38 |
| samueldmq | ++ | 20:39 |
| samueldmq | about the migration approach, have you migrated the docs as it is -> update | 20:39 |
| samueldmq | or are you updating them as you go ? | 20:39 |
| sdague | samueldmq: it's all about what your end goal is | 20:39 |
| sdague | is your primary audience for your API people or machines | 20:39 |
| sdague | we have decided it's people | 20:39 |
| samueldmq | ++ | 20:40 |
| sdague | so optimize for people being able to update and fix the content and understand how that affects what other people see | 20:40 |
| sdague | and we have given up on having machine readable version of the api | 20:40 |
| sdague | for now | 20:40 |
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| samueldmq | nice, I agree this was a good decision that will help people to contribute/review docs (since tehy're rst) | 20:40 |
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| sdague | ok, so back to your migration question | 20:41 |
| sdague | what is the question there? | 20:41 |
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| djkonro | Hello, my name is Konrad Djimeli and I am a new contributor to openstack. I am having some issues while working on a glance bug and I made the following post http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095305.html to the mailing because I can not afford to always be on IRC. Please I would like to get some help. | 20:42 |
| samueldmq | sdague: how have people been migrating from SGML / XML ( WADL ) to rst? | 20:42 |
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| sdague | fairy-slipper has been retooled to be a converter | 20:43 |
| samueldmq | sdague: I heard about a tool for (semi-)automatic conversion? | 20:43 |
| samueldmq | nice | 20:43 |
| sdague | so that gives you a reasonable starting point | 20:43 |
| clarkb | djkonro: nikhil or rosmaita maybe able to help | 20:43 |
| sdague | but you still need to scrub from there | 20:43 |
| sdague | nova cut over early, we have a rather large api, and a lot of scrubbing | 20:43 |
| sdague | http://burndown.dague.org/ | 20:43 |
| samueldmq | sdague: nice burndown | 20:44 |
| samueldmq | sdague: I am planning to migrate the current api-ref as it is | 20:45 |
| samueldmq | sdague: then update what is necessary later | 20:45 |
| sdague | yep | 20:45 |
| samueldmq | sdague: where is the .rst code living? | 20:45 |
| samueldmq | sdague: openstack/project or openstack/project-specs ? | 20:45 |
| sdague | ? | 20:45 |
| samueldmq | where are people putting the new .rst code in ? | 20:46 |
| sdague | oh, most projects have it in openstack/project | 20:46 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: ok, keystone currently has it under keystoen-specs, but I think we can switch if everyone is doing so | 20:46 |
| samueldmq | sdague: I believe I have enough info to start, thanks! | 20:47 |
| sdague | yeh, the advantage of it being in the project with the code is you can land the API doc changes with the code changes | 20:47 |
| sdague | as a single commit | 20:47 |
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| sdague | also, you can do litteral include for sample files if you have them in tree | 20:47 |
| nikhil | djkonro: clarkb I looked at it earlier with tiny bit of time between meeting . djkonro you will need to look at logs and give more info. It can be a bug but not sure ATM. Also I'm out for a bit and on mob. So can help only later. | 20:48 |
| sdague | right now designate, ironic, nova, heat, senlin, and cinder seem to have stuff working | 20:48 |
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| djkonro | clarkb: | 20:49 |
| djkonro | thanks for the notification | 20:49 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: "litteral include for sample files" -> samples of API return ? | 20:49 |
| sdague | samueldmq: yeh, https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/30c1f71f6021b7a1687a15beb12aac6c9d0df6e9/api-ref/source/os-baremetal-nodes.inc#L89 | 20:50 |
| nikhil | djkonro: for glance specific things it's much easier to get help on #openstack-glance | 20:50 |
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| sdague | samueldmq: annegentle has been proposing some of the fairy slipper conversions | 20:52 |
| samueldmq | sdague: having in the project helps reviewers to ensure the implementation matches 100% the new api spec | 20:52 |
| sdague | so I would sync with her about doing it for keystone | 20:52 |
| samueldmq | sdague: about doing the initial conversion for keystone? | 20:53 |
| sdague | yeh | 20:53 |
| samueldmq | sdague: then I would just polish it ? | 20:53 |
| sdague | yeh | 20:53 |
| samueldmq | sdague: ok, let me know once you talk to her | 20:54 |
| sdague | samueldmq: no, you should talk to her :) | 20:54 |
| samueldmq | sdague: ah ok, you said : "so I would sync with her about doing it for keystone" | 20:55 |
| samueldmq | sdague: hehe, I will do :) | 20:55 |
| sdague | ah, yeh, complex gramar idiom :) | 20:55 |
| sdague | there is an implied "if I were you" | 20:55 |
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| samueldmq | sdague: yes, there's a "would" there | 20:56 |
| samueldmq | sdague: thanks for this conversation | 20:57 |
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| sdague | cool, np | 21:04 |
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| stewie925 | hey guys, how do you navigate (pageUp / pageDown) inside a devstack screen? | 23:45 |
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| jgriffith | stewie925: "ctrl-a [" | 23:51 |
| jgriffith | stewie925: then use up arrow down arrow | 23:51 |
| stewie925 | oh thank you jgriffin! | 23:51 |
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| jgriffith | stewie925: standard "screen" commands should all work for you | 23:52 |
| stewie925 | I am looking at a website and it says Ctrl + [ = its missing the 'A' | 23:52 |
| stewie925 | youre a lifesaver! | 23:52 |
| stewie925 | thank you jgriffith ! | 23:52 |
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| jgriffith | stewie925: NP | 23:53 |
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