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| jd__ | mtreinish: thanks for the approve :) | 08:04 |
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| mtreinish | jd__: sure, np. Sorry I didn't see that sooner | 08:05 |
| jd__ | mtreinish: that's good enough, I was gonna bring it on openstack-dev otherwise :) | 08:06 |
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| thingee | stevemar, dtroyer_zz: was thinking of just closing this one out with that last thought from my comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308460/ | 09:17 |
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| dtroyer_zz | thingee: I think the reason it was a cross-project spec is because it applies to plugins more than the OSC repo itself. the osc cores can veto in-repo changes we don't like, we can't control external stuff. That said, I was never in favor of that spec as written, I'm ok with abandoning it. | 11:41 |
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| thingee | dtroyer_zz: seems like bad things are already happening though. example congress policy | 11:53 |
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| thingee | dtroyer_zz: I know that doesn't really concern core. does osc have a standardize doc for plugins to follow? | 11:54 |
| thingee | dtroyer_zz: aside from your link doc of what exists today | 11:54 |
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| zigo | tristanC: Hi there! Were can we find the script to get the electorate for a given project? | 12:56 |
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| zigo | tristanC: I'd like to know, because we need to fix Stackalytics.com for the packaging_deb project, and it seems it's done the wrong way. | 12:57 |
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| anteaya | zigo: the electorate is not drawn using stackalytics | 13:58 |
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| zigo | andreaf: I know, thanks ! :) | 13:59 |
| zigo | Woops, wrong nick. | 13:59 |
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| zigo | anteaya: I know, thanks. Which is why I'd like to find the source code for the electorate, so we can fix Stackalytics. | 13:59 |
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| anteaya | fungi knows where the script is | 14:00 |
| anteaya | I believe tristanC is in apac | 14:00 |
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| kashyap | anteaya: He's in Canada, last time I checked :-) | 14:00 |
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| anteaya | kashyap: I'm told he is now in Korea | 14:01 |
| anteaya | and yeah he was in Montreal last I knew as well | 14:01 |
| kashyap | LOL, okay, I'll stop giving you dated info | 14:01 |
| anteaya | I don't know when he moved but I trust the source who told me | 14:02 |
| anteaya | kashyap: no worries, thanks for trying to help :) | 14:02 |
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| zigo | Cheers, asking him. | 14:02 |
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| anteaya | thanks, I haven't seen him yet today | 14:04 |
| anteaya | he might be in a meeting | 14:04 |
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| fungi | anteaya: zigo: in openstack-infra/system-config the script is tools/owners.py | 14:18 |
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| zigo | Cheers. | 14:18 |
| anteaya | fungi: thanks pleia2 helped us find it | 14:19 |
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| fungi | oh, cool. she's awesome | 14:24 |
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| fungi | thanks pleia2! | 14:24 |
| pleia2 | sure | 14:24 |
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| dhellmann | dtroyer_zz : I'm getting an error from OSC in the grenade job trying to set up stable/newton: http://logs.openstack.org/38/362438/2/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-ubuntu-trusty/09299cf/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz | 16:57 |
| dhellmann | stevemar : ^^ | 16:57 |
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| dhellmann | mtreinish : ^^ | 17:00 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: it appears that osc changed it's cli | 17:04 |
| dhellmann | sdague : yeah, seems like it. | 17:04 |
| dhellmann | I see the right args being passed in resources.sh in master. | 17:05 |
| dhellmann | though $ip may not be set? | 17:06 |
| sdague | yeh, I think that's it | 17:06 |
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| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/38/362438/2/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-ubuntu-trusty/09299cf/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2016-09-20_14_27_45_265 | 17:07 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if that's a bad column name | 17:07 |
| sdague | that's actually where it goes wrong | 17:07 |
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| dhellmann | yeah | 17:07 |
| sdague | it's returning one of the columns | 17:08 |
| dhellmann | right, I wonder if the name is not "ip" | 17:08 |
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| dhellmann | so we asked for a column that doesn't exist | 17:08 |
| sdague | yep, that's it | 17:09 |
| sdague | they changed column names | 17:09 |
| sdague | it is now floating_ip_address | 17:09 |
| stevemar | sdague: dhellmann i believe that landed when we did the 3.0.0 release | 17:09 |
| sdague | stevemar: ok, except, what is the expected upgrade path? | 17:10 |
| dhellmann | is that an OSC change or is that a neutron change | 17:10 |
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| sdague | we've been using this -c approach everywhere in osc examples, so there is some assumption those column names weren't going to change | 17:11 |
| sdague | or if so, there is going to be some deprecation / warning cycle | 17:11 |
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| stevemar | sdague: unfortunately afk for a bit, hope dtroyer_zz can jump in :( | 17:13 |
| sdague | ok | 17:13 |
| sdague | dhellmann: so, you could try to update column name to floating_ip_address | 17:13 |
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| sdague | but we are going mitaka -> newton and mitaka -> master right now from grenade master | 17:14 |
| sdague | I don't know if it's going to be compatible | 17:14 |
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| dhellmann | sdague : at this point in the job, are we running the old versions of things? should we cap osc in mitaka? | 17:15 |
| dhellmann | maybe that's a separate question | 17:15 |
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| sdague | it's running constraints ... probably on old side | 17:16 |
| sdague | I think this is still old side | 17:16 |
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| dhellmann | it looks like it installs 3.2.0 | 17:17 |
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| dhellmann | that's the constrained version from master | 17:18 |
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| sdague | yeh, 2.3.0 is on this working version of the job I'm looking at | 17:19 |
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| dhellmann | sdague : https://review.openstack.org/373475 is the grenade change and https://review.openstack.org/362438 now depends on that | 17:22 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: sure | 17:23 |
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| dhellmann | I don't know whether asking for a column that doesn't exist is considered an error or if it's just ignored, so we'll see how that goes | 17:24 |
| sdague | dhellmann: well, it's not an error for sure | 17:24 |
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| dhellmann | oh, yeah, I guess not, or we'd see that already | 17:24 |
| sdague | because we are asking for ip, and it no longer exists, and it didn't error | 17:24 |
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| sdague | it feels like it should at least be a warning though | 17:25 |
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| dhellmann | I agree | 17:52 |
| dhellmann | sdague, stevemar, dtroyer_zz : https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1625745 | 17:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1625745 in python-openstackclient "floating ip column name change breaks grenade" [Undecided,New] | 17:55 |
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| dtroyer_zz | dhellmann, sdague: /me catching up... | 18:44 |
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| dtroyer_zz | given that it's floating IP that changed, it is probably linked to the re-working of those commands | 18:45 |
| dtroyer_zz | but in most cases, we are just passing through the field names from the underlying APIs, so if those were to change OSC wouldn't necessarily know. totally suboptinal | 18:45 |
| dtroyer_zz | the only non-reactive fix is to map those out ahead of time | 18:46 |
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| sdague | dtroyer_zz: sure, but if osc is claiming to be that stable interface, then it needs to be that. Otherwise the osc interface is completely random based on what version of libs are used, right? | 18:49 |
| dtroyer_zz | that particular regression is a bug and is because shortcuts were taken in deprecating the command… | 18:49 |
| dtroyer_zz | sdague: all of our CLIs are that | 18:49 |
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| dtroyer_zz | this will be my new poster child for keeping copies of code, not repurposing it | 18:50 |
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| dtroyer_zz | heh, here's why it is different… one name comes from nova-net, the other from Neutron | 18:52 |
| sdague | dtroyer_zz: ok, I guess I just assumed by declaring the interface, osc would keep that interface | 18:52 |
| dtroyer_zz | I'll jump on the locking down every field in and out, no problem, until we need a rev for every little thing to be added | 18:52 |
| sdague | dtroyer_zz: right, but the whole point is this was supposed to make it the same | 18:52 |
| dtroyer_zz | stop arguing my side, dang it! | 18:52 |
| sdague | heh | 18:53 |
| sdague | see, I'm all for your mission :) | 18:53 |
| sdague | I'm just holding you to the standard of that mission | 18:53 |
| dtroyer_zz | sure, and I suppose this means that we've gotten the first layer or two under our belts now | 18:54 |
| dtroyer_zz | I'm not exactly sure how far we are supposed to take mapping nova=net to neutron and where beaklage can ocur | 18:54 |
| dtroyer_zz | because neutron is rather fluid | 18:54 |
| dtroyer_zz | at least from an API standpoint over time + extensions | 18:54 |
| dtroyer_zz | + back-end | 18:54 |
| sdague | right, which is why you probably can't just rely on their fields | 18:54 |
| sdague | the value in OSC is going to be the stable interface | 18:54 |
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| sdague | because if I need to write a mapping layer on top of osc to provide compatibility for callers ... | 18:55 |
| dtroyer_zz | I was really hoping to get the auth finished first ;) | 18:55 |
| sdague | then, I'm honestly about 1/2 a step from writing my own rest client in grenade :) | 18:55 |
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| dtroyer_zz | please? can we? and do it in not-dynamically-installed/loaded language | 18:56 |
| dtroyer_zz | sorry, I got that out of my system now for today | 18:56 |
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| dtroyer_zz | the complaint from most projects is that we're obfuscating the interface to their API, so now we'll have to do even more of that | 18:57 |
| dtroyer_zz | I'm totally fine with that BTW | 18:57 |
| dtroyer_zz | (see tenant -> project, or metadata -> property) | 18:57 |
| dtroyer_zz | time to put the drive to get off project libs into overdrive | 18:58 |
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| Rockyg | Please, please, please keep bringing more consistency, if necessary through obfuscating bad decisions. One consistent client no matter how bad the underlying code | 18:59 |
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| Rockyg | dtroyer_zz, you are doing the heavy lifting. Once OSC is the rule, the projcts might com in line, too. | 19:00 |
| dtroyer_zz | Rockyg: that why we exist! :) and like I said, this is evidence that we've pushed the bar far enough for this to be the pain point, so thats progress | 19:00 |
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| dtroyer_zz | Rockyg: don't hold your breath for projects, they rarely are interested in more than they need to use. that's not a bad thing necessarily, it is what I expected 4 years ago and is why OSC started to begin with. The plan has always been to let projects worry about their own libs and for us to use something else, that something else is still not at a 1.0 release though, and is even more understaffed than OSC. | 19:02 |
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| dhellmann | sdague , dtroyer_zz : it would be nice to resurrect the sdk project to be a more stable client lib | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer_zz | AFAIK briancurtin is the only one actively working on it, and he is still in the midst of an interface refactor (and 1.0 release) that keeps us from adopting it | 19:07 |
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| dhellmann | dtroyer_zz: ok, I wasn't sure if briancurtin was actually actively working on it | 19:11 |
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| Rockyg | some of the user groups are interested in being able to use SDK. Mayb we can gt a developr or two out of some of those companies | 19:13 |
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| anteaya | Rockyg: when you say user groups, what do you mean? | 19:21 |
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| anteaya | or even better, who(m) do you mean? | 19:23 |
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| Rockyg | OK. Ummm, app ecosystem, is on. There is the interop folks, but they aren't a user group.... but I sm to rcall at least one more, hmmm. | 19:26 |
| Rockyg | Oh. nterprise working group, too. | 19:27 |
| Rockyg | Enterprise | 19:27 |
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| anteaya | oh | 19:30 |
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| anteaya | well I guess I am having trouble keeping track, I'd consider that a working group if they are calling themselves a working group | 19:30 |
| anteaya | do you consider working groups user groups? | 19:31 |
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| anteaya | I don't know enough about it to know the language | 19:31 |
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| Rockyg | Yeah. Working groups tend to b the order of the day for the User Group community. Most of them don't consider themselves projects, just WGs | 19:33 |
| Rockyg | I shouldn't say Just. It's that they don't see their product as being code | 19:34 |
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| anteaya | okay thanks for explaining | 19:36 |
| anteaya | I'm not sure that I understand yet but that is okay | 19:36 |
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| Rockyg | I think they would call themselves teams, but that wasn't part of the OpenStack common vocabulary when the groups started coalescing. And you, anteaya have bben extremely helpful getting them educatd in OpenStack process/tools. | 19:41 |
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| anteaya | have I? | 19:42 |
| anteaya | teams I understand, thank you | 19:42 |
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| Rockyg | anteaya, yes, thank you. Help with IRC meetings is very much appreciated. | 19:43 |
| anteaya | ah yes | 19:43 |
| anteaya | irc can be a steep learning curve | 19:43 |
| anteaya | glad folks find my guidance useful | 19:44 |
| anteaya | thanks for that feedback Rockyg | 19:44 |
| anteaya | that is kind of you to say | 19:44 |
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| mriedem | jamespage: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373498/ something you need in newton-rc2 | 19:46 |
| mriedem | ? | 19:46 |
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| jamespage | mriedem, not required no - I can work around it with a small packaging override | 19:59 |
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| briancurtin | catching up on back scroll: you can use openstacksdk today, it’s not like it’s forbidden or something, it just doesn’t have 100% coverage of all APIs ever because of a combination of people to write those and lack of documentation for the people writing. and yeah, i work on it every day | 20:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance: Update tags per the validate tags script https://review.openstack.org/368086 | 20:06 |
| anteaya | briancurtin: thank you | 20:07 |
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| mdurrant | Any Horizon devs have a few minutes to chat about DeleteAction and some frustrating behavior I'm dealing with? | 20:23 |
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| mdurrant | Primarily, the fact that my `delete` and `action` methods never get called. Instead, it posts to the index view and I have to do some ugly stuff to extract IDs and actions from the query string and body. | 20:24 |
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| anteaya | mdurrant: if you are an operator you might get your best response asking on #openstack | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | mdurrant: if you move to #openstack-horizon there will be more folks, but I can help you | 20:26 |
| anteaya | david-lyle: ah there you are | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | anteaya: reading the stream from another room :) | 20:27 |
| anteaya | david-lyle: me too :) | 20:27 |
| mdurrant | I'm a combo operator/dev of sorts. :) I tried in #openstack-horizon and didn't get a response. | 20:27 |
| mdurrant | and the folks in #openstack sent me here :) | 20:27 |
| mdurrant | Thank you for your offer to assist | 20:27 |
| anteaya | mdurrant: ah | 20:28 |
| Krenair | hi Kiall | 20:28 |
| anteaya | mdurrant: well david-lyle is your person | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | mdurrant: this is a django based view? | 20:28 |
| Krenair | So is my python-designateclient patch going into Ocata now? | 20:28 |
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| mdurrant | It's a DeleteAction attached to a DataTable in the row and table actions. | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | mdurrant: one you defined or is in upstream horizon? | 20:29 |
| mdurrant | One I defined - one sec I'll make a snippet | 20:29 |
| anteaya | mdurrant: paste.openstack.org is available if you need it | 20:30 |
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| mdurrant | http://paste.openstack.org/show/582315/ | 20:32 |
| mdurrant | Ty | 20:32 |
| anteaya | welcome | 20:33 |
| mdurrant | Please let me know if I need to include more - it seems that DeleteAction should handle everything I need but it never calls the delete/action methods. I have it as a row action on the table. | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | mdurrant: well first thing is that delete is a batch action by default and the exception handling is built into the DeleteAction code already | 20:36 |
| mdurrant | Good to know, ty | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | so delete() is not really necessary | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | just make the API call directly from action() | 20:37 |
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| david-lyle | mdurrant: just an example, but deleting an instance looks like https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/instances/tables.py#L114 | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed openstack/governance: Mention where the metric rules are defined/used https://review.openstack.org/342225 | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | mdurrant: if you | 20:39 |
| mdurrant | I was looking at that and noticed instance deleting doesn't appear to post back to the form | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | 're interested in looking at the DeleteAction code it's https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/tables/actions.py#L885 | 20:39 |
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| david-lyle | mdurrant: not it's not posting back, it will perform the action then redirect to the Index to force a new data fetch | 20:40 |
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| david-lyle | if there is a failure, it will post a message to that page that will render when Index loads | 20:41 |
| mdurrant | OK that's gotta be the issue with mine - it's trying to do it via a post and I implemented delete hijacking the post method of the index and now I'm trying to repent for my terrible coding sins. :) Thank you so much for your help. The biggest difference I see is I've implemented a few more attributes in my DeleteAction - I'll remove them 1 by 1 and see which is causing the weird behavior. | 20:41 |
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| mdurrant | Thank you! | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | mdurrant: sure, come back to #openstack-horizon with further questions, I'm usually not napping | 20:42 |
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| mdurrant | Hahah ty. | 20:43 |
| anteaya | david-lyle: is great at hearing confession | 20:43 |
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