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| openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack/governance: Add Chef response to Ocata community goal https://review.openstack.org/398900 | 10:18 |
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| dmarlin_ | I am a new user to gerrit, and trying to reply to a patch comment. The reply remains Draft, and the only options I see are Edit and Discard. How can I submit it? | 13:13 |
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| dmarlin_ | I see this issue reported by another user: | 13:13 |
| dmarlin_ | https://bugs.chromium.org/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=4952&q=&colspec=ID%20Type%20Stars%20Milestone%20Status%20Priority%20Owner%20Summary | 13:13 |
| dmarlin_ | I am logged in, and the ICLA is Verified | 13:14 |
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| jroll | dmarlin_: press 'a' or go to the main screen for the patch and click the 'reply...' button | 13:19 |
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| jroll | that gives you a window to write an overall comment (to be submited with any inline comments) and vote | 13:20 |
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| dmarlin_ | jroll: so what does the "Reply" to the individual comment actually do? (which is what I did) | 13:23 |
| dmarlin_ | jroll: for example, I was on: | 13:23 |
| dmarlin_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398639/1/lib/common-defaults@29 | 13:23 |
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| jroll | dmarlin_: just puts your comment underneath that one | 13:24 |
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| dmarlin_ | jroll: that's what I wanted to do, but there is no "post" or "submit" option | 13:24 |
| dmarlin_ | only Edit and Discard | 13:24 |
| jroll | dmarlin_: right, so you can leave multiple inline comments like that | 13:24 |
| jroll | then you go up to the main screen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398639/1 | 13:25 |
| jroll | and click 'reply...' at the top to publish them and optionally vote | 13:25 |
| jroll | the shortcut for that is 'a', to save you a few clicks :) | 13:25 |
| jroll | (agree with that bug, it isn't discoverable at all, and pretty confusing) | 13:25 |
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| dmarlin_ | jroll: ok, I did the reply via the main screen | 13:27 |
| dmarlin_ | jroll: thank you for the tips | 13:27 |
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| jroll | dmarlin_: not a problem :) | 13:28 |
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| dmarlin_ | jroll: one last thing, where will my comment show up? | 13:31 |
| jroll | dmarlin_: should show at the bottom of the main screen and inline if it's inline | 13:32 |
| * jroll looks | 13:32 | |
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| jroll | hm, doesn't look like it published, did you press 'post' on the box that pops up when you push reply? | 13:33 |
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| dmarlin_ | jroll: no, I missed the post button. just did that now | 13:33 |
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| jroll | ah, cool, I see it now | 13:34 |
| dmarlin_ | jroll: now I see it | 13:34 |
| dmarlin_ | jroll: thank you very much | 13:34 |
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| jroll | dmarlin_: you're welcome :) | 13:39 |
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| cdent | SpamapS: I was hoping to be there for archwg this evening but unfortunately i've a conflict. I'm not abandoning. If some unassigned actions come out of it, let me know and I'll see if I can pick any of them up. | 15:42 |
| jroll | not sure who to ping about this, but what should one do if we managed to drop a deprecated thing, made the cycle boundary, but was not at the three month deprecation period yet | 15:45 |
| jroll | dhellmann: ttx: ^ maybe you could help? | 15:45 |
| jroll | it just landed, should we revert? or say we're sorry and move on | 15:45 |
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| ttx | jroll: how far are you from the 3-month deprecation period ? | 15:50 |
| jroll | ttx: about a month short | 15:50 |
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| ttx | I'd say if it just landed, revert it rather than setting precedent | 15:51 |
| jroll | yeah, that's what I was thinking | 15:51 |
| ttx | depends when you want to cut a release I guess | 15:51 |
| jroll | thank you :) | 15:51 |
| jroll | heh. soon | 15:51 |
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| amrith | mriedem, ping | 16:20 |
| amrith | this change (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392236/5) has broken trove's gate | 16:21 |
| mriedem | amrith: then you have a job that's using nova-net which should be using neutron, or not running on master | 16:21 |
| mriedem | amrith: which job? | 16:21 |
| amrith | we're currently running with neutron disabled till we can figure out why the thing doesn't work; but in the longer term need nova networking for stable | 16:21 |
| amrith | several jobs | 16:21 |
| amrith | we are explicitly enabling nova networking | 16:22 |
| amrith | per agreement with infra | 16:22 |
| amrith | trove-functional-dsvm-mysql and trove-scenario-functional-dsvm-* | 16:22 |
| mriedem | stable branches or jobs? | 16:22 |
| amrith | so, stable and master | 16:22 |
| mriedem | amrith: i brought this up 2 weeks ago in the mailing list | 16:22 |
| amrith | master is interim | 16:22 |
| mriedem | nova-network still runs on stable branches | 16:22 |
| amrith | mriedem, I missed it | 16:22 |
| amrith | we also need it on trove-integration | 16:23 |
| amrith | which is branchless | 16:23 |
| amrith | and currently in master | 16:23 |
| amrith | which neutron routing is broken for subnetpools | 16:23 |
| amrith | and potentially other things | 16:23 |
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| amrith | that we're still debugging | 16:23 |
| amrith | anyway, just wondering if there's some hack in the short term | 16:23 |
| amrith | that we can use to enable it | 16:23 |
| amrith | I see the code that says CONF.cells.... | 16:23 |
| amrith | for a couple of days till we get master/neutron issues worked out | 16:24 |
| mriedem | you'd have to enable cells v1 for the jobs right now, which you probably don't want to do | 16:24 |
| amrith | is there an avoidance? | 16:24 |
| mriedem | i don't know wha to tell you about trove-integration, that's a monster in itself that will need to have some branch logic in it probably | 16:24 |
| mriedem | like devstack-gate does | 16:24 |
| amrith | I hear you; but it takes two releases to kill it and that started | 16:25 |
| amrith | now trove-integration is NOT used for master | 16:25 |
| amrith | only m and n. | 16:25 |
| mriedem | to kill what? | 16:25 |
| amrith | after n goes bye-bye, trove-integration goes with it. | 16:25 |
| amrith | to kill trove-integration off | 16:25 |
| dansmith | this doesn't affect N right? | 16:25 |
| mriedem | no it doesn't affect stable branches | 16:25 |
| amrith | well trove-integration has its own CI jobs | 16:26 |
| amrith | and those are branchless. | 16:26 |
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| amrith | trove-integration is all master | 16:26 |
| amrith | I haven't run a job in it recently | 16:26 |
| amrith | and I'm less concerned about it honestly | 16:26 |
| mriedem | trove-integration will need to make some decisions based on branch logic | 16:26 |
| mriedem | or just skip trove-integration from running on mastetr | 16:26 |
| amrith | what I'm now concerned about is stable (which should be fine) and master which is in the short term in need of nova-networking. | 16:26 |
| mriedem | if it can only work with nova-net | 16:26 |
| amrith | trove-integration is not needed for trove's master | 16:27 |
| amrith | only its own master. | 16:27 |
| amrith | i.e. for m and n. | 16:27 |
| amrith | so let's ignore trove-integration | 16:27 |
| amrith | for trove master, we right now are in need of nova-networking till we can figure out what ails neutron in the infra setup. | 16:27 |
| mriedem | so what is special about trove that it doesn't work with neutron? | 16:27 |
| amrith | don't understand it yet | 16:28 |
| amrith | maybe trove's issues | 16:28 |
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| amrith | maybe something to do with infra's setup | 16:28 |
| amrith | maybe subnet pooling which doens't work right (I hear) | 16:28 |
| amrith | maybe something else we don't know yet | 16:28 |
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| amrith | but at this point we are dead in the water without nova networking. | 16:28 |
| mriedem | clarkb: mtreinish: ^ can you provide any more details on the trove + neutron issues? | 16:28 |
| mriedem | amrith: is trove using the newtork APIs at all? | 16:29 |
| mriedem | *network | 16:29 |
| jroll | amrith: it's that the instance can't talk to rabbit, right? I suspect devstack needs to do some ovs hacks to allow that | 16:29 |
| clarkb | mriedem: the issue is that on osic our default route is to 10.0.0.1. With devstack and subnet pools neutron thinks it "owns" 10.0.0.0/20 or something /2X | 16:29 |
| amrith | yes we do use some network API's but that's not the place where we are running into trouble (as best as we can tell) | 16:29 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: then a route is applied for that netowrk on br-ex which is not an interface which you can hit the router 10.0.0.1 form | 16:30 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: this means that any traffic bound for the internet which needs to go through the 10.0.0.1 router for NATing to ipv4 internets stops working | 16:30 |
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| clarkb | kevinbenton has proposed a patch to devstack that infra can psuh data into that very clearly says "this IP range is the one that neutron can use safely" | 16:31 |
| clarkb | and that is hopefully going to be happyness for the devstack cores and we can use that to fix all these issues | 16:31 |
| amrith | and that doesn't (as best as we can tell) completely fix the issue; there may be other issues and till we figure them out, would like to use nova networking as a way to keep the trove CI moving forward. | 16:31 |
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| dansmith | amrith: you know we're trying to rip nova-network out right? | 16:32 |
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| dansmith | like, yesterday | 16:32 |
| amrith | for example, there are things that passed check but now fail gate and we'd like to merge for the b1 drop today | 16:32 |
| amrith | dansmith, yes, we'd like to as well but testing in the CI setup is very different from testing in our desktop env's. and there are rax to osic differences that we didn't factor. | 16:32 |
| amrith | so yes, I'd like to be off nova networking yesterday as well | 16:33 |
| dansmith | amrith: yeah, we all deal with those things every day | 16:33 |
| mriedem | so the options are change your jobs to use cells v1, which will probably cause other unforseen issues, or we revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392236/ temporarily | 16:33 |
| dansmith | mriedem: if we revert, I think we set a date to put it back in and stick to it | 16:33 |
| amrith | mriedem, that (latter) would be my request. Would you be OK if I pushed two patches; one to revert and second to add it back in 1 week. | 16:33 |
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| mriedem | you think you're going to have this figured out in a week/ | 16:34 |
| mriedem | ? | 16:34 |
| mriedem | i was thinking o-2 | 16:34 |
| mriedem | 12/15 | 16:34 |
| amrith | I'll take day after o-2 if that works for you. | 16:34 |
| dansmith | I was thinking end of nov | 16:34 |
| mriedem | that also means sdague would be back to help on devstack side | 16:35 |
| mriedem | if needd | 16:35 |
| mriedem | *needed | 16:35 |
| dansmith | 12/15 is well into when most people are already gone | 16:35 |
| dansmith | well, not most gone, but going | 16:35 |
| amrith | mriedem, that would be awesome; we've been pushing changes to devstack/neutron for some time to get our neutron support to work | 16:35 |
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| amrith | but those changes were not accepted in neutron's plugin. | 16:35 |
| amrith | so we've been at this for a while and admittedly I missed your email of a week ago. | 16:35 |
| mriedem | dansmith: reverting that doesn't block anything for us for cells v2 does it? | 16:35 |
| mriedem | dansmith: we're already not running n-net jobs on master for nova except the cells v1 job | 16:36 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, it just means as we start to land cellsv2 things that break n-net, you'll still be able to start it in that configuration and be confused about why it doesn't work | 16:36 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ok, but that's a pretty small window i think unless you're doing CD, and if you're doing CD with deprecated nova-net you're kind of fubar anyway. we could log a warning if you're running nova-net w/o cells v1 until we re-revert | 16:38 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I'm not saying it's a reason not to do it, I'm just answering your question | 16:38 |
| mriedem | ok, cool | 16:38 |
| mriedem | so i'll push a patch to revert, and a patch on top of that to add the warning when starting it that it's going to stop working in non-cellsv1 configs, | 16:39 |
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| amrith | thx mriedem | 16:39 |
| mriedem | and then at o-2 we rip it out again | 16:39 |
| amrith | agreed | 16:39 |
| mriedem | dansmith: sound good? | 16:39 |
| amrith | many thanks | 16:39 |
| dansmith | mriedem: sounds too long to me, but you da boss :) | 16:39 |
| dansmith | I mean, yes. | 16:39 |
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| mriedem | dude, angela is the boss | 16:40 |
| mriedem | maybe mona | 16:40 |
| dansmith | amrith: can someone from trove join the nova meeting for the next few weeks and provide status? | 16:40 |
| amrith | dansmith, sure thing | 16:40 |
| mriedem | amrith: are you tracking the gate faliure with a bug? | 16:40 |
| dansmith | that would make me feel better about the longer timeline and keeping the pressure on | 16:40 |
| amrith | mriedem, not currently; will add one. | 16:41 |
| amrith | should say, not that I know of, will check and add one if not. | 16:41 |
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| amrith | so the nova meeting is even weeks, thursday 1400utc and odd at 2100utc? | 16:41 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1629133 ? | 16:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629133 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "New neutron subnet pool support breaks multinode testing." [Undecided,In progress] | 16:41 |
| amrith | or a different nova meeting | 16:41 |
| mriedem | amrith: should i just track under that bug? | 16:42 |
| dansmith | amrith: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 16:42 |
| amrith | we could use that but I think there may be more than one | 16:42 |
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| amrith | dansmith, yes. same thing. I found it on eavesdrop | 16:42 |
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| amrith | dansmith, I'll be on the next nova meeting; next week, 2100utc | 16:46 |
| amrith | mriedem, dansmith thanks | 16:46 |
| dansmith | ack | 16:46 |
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| mriedem | heh at least we didn't get that into the nova o-1 tag | 16:50 |
| mriedem | b/c the release note would have been out | 16:50 |
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| mriedem | amrith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399132/ | 16:54 |
| amrith | mriedem, ack | 16:55 |
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| SpamapS | cdent: thanks for the heads up. :) | 17:06 |
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| amrith | mriedem, dansmith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399132/ failed some check (pci-check). peterstac just rechecked it. | 17:25 |
| dansmith | amrith: recheck won't re-run that test, nor does that failure matter | 17:25 |
| mriedem | that's third party non-voting | 17:25 |
| amrith | oh, ok! then the recheck is a noop | 17:26 |
| amrith | peterstac ^^ | 17:26 |
| peterstac | yep, I see, thx | 17:26 |
| dansmith | mriedem: that said, I've rechecked another patch several times this morning and keep getting nailed, so we might have a bit of a tough time getting this revert in | 17:26 |
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| amrith | dansmith, don't know about y'all and how sensitive you are to timing but I emailed mordred last night with some stats. 25% of the trove ci jobs get a node where devstack takes > 20 minutes and logs itself as a really slow node :) | 17:27 |
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| dansmith | amrith: not sure what your point is, but I'm referring to a known cinder failure | 17:28 |
| mriedem | dan is talking about http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/index.html#1642111 | 17:28 |
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| mriedem | we could have other uncategorized failures going on http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/data/integrated_gate.html | 17:29 |
| amrith | we're having jobs timeout at an astonishing rate of late; didn't realize that yours were rechecks because of a known bug. ours are rechecks because devstack didn't finish fast enough and by extensions our tests whihc take a while too, timed out | 17:29 |
| mriedem | looks like ceph is barfing | 17:29 |
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| mriedem | amrith: sounds like ironic | 17:29 |
| mriedem | ironic used to have a lot of timeouts | 17:29 |
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| amrith | could be similar issues; launching VM's. | 17:30 |
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| amrith | dansmith, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399132/ failed xen server CI. I didn't want to blindly recheck | 19:57 |
| dansmith | amrith: doesn't matter | 19:57 |
| amrith | ok, it's verified -1 now. | 19:57 |
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| dansmith | amrith: it's #8 in the gate | 19:58 |
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