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| cdent | zzzeek++ | 14:43 |
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| zzzeek | cdent: did I win? | 14:43 |
| cdent | on the internet. today. you have won. | 14:43 |
| cdent | but only today. | 14:43 |
| zzzeek | great | 14:44 |
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| jroll | idk, sc68cal is also in the running :) | 14:48 |
| cdent | jroll: good point | 14:48 |
| sc68cal | :) | 14:48 |
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| cdent | but I already talked to him elsewhere. I have many prizes to give. | 14:48 |
| jroll | heh | 14:48 |
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| jroll | lol | 14:50 |
| jroll | "in the good way... until it isn't | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bence Romsics proposed openstack/governance master: Add openstack/neutron-trunk-ui to Horizon project https://review.openstack.org/428796 | 16:17 |
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| leakypipes | harlowja: what exactly are we looking at with that dozer output? having trouble understanding... | 18:59 |
| harlowja | leakypipes object counts | 19:00 |
| harlowja | and the little green line there is over time | 19:00 |
| leakypipes | harlowja: so there are 1638 modules loaded? | 19:00 |
| cdent | harlowja: props for pushing measurement over speculation | 19:01 |
| harlowja | leakypipes 218 | 19:01 |
| harlowja | its oslo man | 19:01 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:01 |
| harlowja | leakypipes when i click on the trace modules | 19:02 |
| harlowja | http://imgur.com/a/eAzus | 19:02 |
| harlowja | so ya, u can then see all the modules | 19:02 |
| leakypipes | harlowja: ah, sorry, was misreading... 1638 list objects... | 19:02 |
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| harlowja | leakypipes ya, the table layout with the dotted lines is sorta confusing | 19:02 |
| harlowja | leakypipes http://imgur.com/a/H3HOe an example of the count that has changed | 19:03 |
| harlowja | so the little green line is a graph | 19:04 |
| leakypipes | harlowja: what you're showing there is from which openstack service being traced? | 19:04 |
| harlowja | no | 19:04 |
| harlowja | just a demo wsgi setup that i was doing | 19:04 |
| leakypipes | ahh | 19:04 |
| harlowja | we were seeing keystone blow up memory a while ago | 19:04 |
| harlowja | this was a POC to see what this thing does :-P | 19:04 |
| leakypipes | harlowja: you planning to do this for an openstack service? | 19:04 |
| harlowja | eventually likely maybe | 19:04 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:04 |
| leakypipes | seems like a very useful exercise :) | 19:04 |
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| harlowja | it should just plug in to pipeline | 19:05 |
| harlowja | the thing i don't want to do is have this active outside of dev/test | 19:05 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/mgedmin/dozer/blob/master/dozer/leak.py#L134-L164 | 19:05 |
| harlowja | thats like a expensive routine ^ | 19:05 |
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| harlowja | `gc.get_objects()` basically walks the whole memory space | 19:06 |
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| jroll | I think doing it at the end of CI, when we dump the guru report and such, would be interesting | 19:07 |
| harlowja | ya | 19:07 |
| harlowja | cdent its all oslo, i just know it :-P | 19:07 |
| cdent | I've had pretty good success using similar things in the past, but it takes quite a lot of effort to extract the useful information | 19:07 |
| harlowja | yup | 19:07 |
| cdent | but of course, without the starting point, you can't do anything... | 19:08 |
| harlowja | gdb core dumps are useless so this was the next best | 19:08 |
| harlowja | cause we got a coredump of keystone when it was taking 5GB + | 19:08 |
| harlowja | but finding the valid python objects from that is ummm, not fun | 19:08 |
| harlowja | not impossible, but u have to really start poking down deep into the python memory space | 19:08 |
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| harlowja | and rebuilding the same kind of data that dozer gathers | 19:09 |
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| leakypipes | dtroyer: lol on loco. | 19:20 |
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| dtroyer | leakypipes: does it give away my thoughts too quickly? | 19:22 |
| leakypipes | dtroyer: a little, but I'll let it slide. | 19:23 |
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| dstanek | harlowja: memory during test runs? | 19:56 |
| harlowja | who what | 19:56 |
| dstanek | harlowja: you were saying you were seeing keystone memory blow up a while ago | 19:57 |
| harlowja | oh ya | 19:57 |
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| harlowja | nah, it was not during test runs | 19:57 |
| harlowja | it was during a real running it | 19:57 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:57 |
| dstanek | harlowja: hmmm...i've not seen that yet | 19:57 |
| harlowja | ya, something happened that caused it | 19:59 |
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| dstanek | harlowja: did it ever go back to normal or does it still run with a higher memory footprint? | 20:10 |
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| sdague | harlowja: a "how to profile openstack components" talk at the summit would be double plus good if you were so inclined | 20:20 |
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| harlowja | sdague hmmm | 20:29 |
| harlowja | sdague good idea, i'll think about it | 20:29 |
| harlowja | dstanek it went down | 20:29 |
| harlowja | we tracked it partially down to a user was creating a crap-ton-of-tokens | 20:29 |
| harlowja | but ya, getting dozer enabled (to some degree) is still in the backlog (afaik) | 20:30 |
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| harlowja | or something like dozer | 20:30 |
| harlowja | cause gdb core dumps ummm, not so useful, lol | 20:30 |
| harlowja | ^ though easy to get when things are going bad | 20:30 |
| harlowja | i think py3.x has some better memory hooks | 20:31 |
| harlowja | but ya. py3.x.... | 20:31 |
| mordred | harlowja: real hackers just cat /proc/kcore | 20:31 |
| harlowja | extracting the python object hierachy (or even trying) from such cores is the suck | 20:32 |
| harlowja | https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/gdb-heap.git/tree/heap was the thing i started modifying to do it (but its not really functional as is) | 20:32 |
| harlowja | https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/gdb-heap.git/tree/heap/cpython.py (knows some level of how to extract it) | 20:33 |
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| harlowja | ^ is when i learned u can program (in python) to gdb | 20:33 |
| mordred | harlowja: have you read https://docs.python.org/devguide/gdb.html ? | 20:34 |
| harlowja | ya | 20:34 |
| mordred | I figured you had - but also figured I'd ask anyway :) | 20:34 |
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| harlowja | the harder part is when u get a core-dump of say uwsgi (or apache i would assume) | 20:35 |
| harlowja | then u have to first find the python interpreter in it | 20:35 |
| mtreinish | harlowja: have you played with any of the tools lifeless mentioned on the ML? (I hadn't heard of it before) | 20:35 |
| harlowja | negative | 20:35 |
| harlowja | just learned about those when he mentioned them, ha | 20:35 |
| harlowja | https://docs.python.org/3/library/tracemalloc.html is in 3.4 | 20:35 |
| harlowja | so that will be nice (someday, lol) | 20:36 |
| harlowja | maybe should run ^ in the gate for 3.4+ projects | 20:36 |
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| harlowja | i think haypo backported that to 2.7 but it requires custom python patches | 20:38 |
| harlowja | @ https://github.com/haypo/pytracemalloc | 20:38 |
| harlowja | so use at your own risk, lol | 20:38 |
| mtreinish | harlowja: yep: http://pytracemalloc.readthedocs.io/install.html#patch-python | 20:39 |
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| harlowja | so perhaps the 3.4 route is easiest to get some data | 20:41 |
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| harlowja | and just enable tracemalloc | 20:41 |
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| harlowja | though not sure where it write traces/data to when u just say set the env var PYTHONTRACEMALLOC=1 | 20:42 |
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| harlowja | also idk how this interacts with apache or uwsgi or other containers (that likely need to pass that var down to the interpeters they are using) | 20:42 |
| mtreinish | harlowja: there are py3.5 jobs running nv in the gate now, so it should be pretty easy to start playing with it | 20:43 |
| harlowja | ya | 20:43 |
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| mtreinish | harlowja: heh, we can just ask haypo :) | 20:43 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:43 |
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| harlowja | but ya, imho, turn it on, see what happens :-P | 20:44 |
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| mtreinish | harlowja: we could also do something like: http://pytracemalloc.readthedocs.io/examples.html#thread-to-write-snapshots-into-files-every-minutes | 20:50 |
| harlowja | ah nice | 20:51 |
| mtreinish | and patch it into oslo.service (or somewhere else that makes sense) | 20:51 |
| harlowja | ya, makes sense | 20:51 |
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| harlowja | might want to find haypo ,see what he thinks | 20:51 |
| harlowja | jd__ where is haypo, lol | 20:51 |
| harlowja | get the experts ideas around this :-P | 20:51 |
| harlowja | http://pytracemalloc.readthedocs.io/tracemallocqt.html looks nice to, cool | 20:52 |
| mtreinish | heh, probably better then me reading the docs and saying, "oh that looks cool" | 20:52 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:52 |
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| jd__ | harlowja: he's not very far from me in Brussels for FOSDEM :) I'll try to ping him! | 21:33 |
| harlowja | :-P | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/governance master: Acknowledge remove-incubated-oslo-code for octavia https://review.openstack.org/429059 | 22:31 |
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| harlowja | jd__ just poke him about tracemalloc | 23:14 |
| harlowja | in regard to the OOM thread | 23:14 |
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