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| jaypipes | mwhahaha: hey there, quick question for ya (hopefully!) :) we're interested in putting together a Puppet manifest for the Freezer project. Do you recommend a particular existing Puppet manifest that we should use to copy/bootstrap the effort? Is there a particular openstack-puppet repo that you think is best to use as a template? | 14:15 |
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| mwhahaha | jaypipes: we have documentation (and a process). I shall find it and send it to you | 14:25 |
| mwhahaha | jaypipes: once I get to my computer for the day | 14:25 |
| jaypipes | mwhahaha: no problemo :) | 14:25 |
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| mwhahaha | leakypipes: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/puppet-openstack-guide/new-module.html | 14:40 |
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| leakypipes | mwhahaha: awesomesauce. thanks much, Alex :) | 14:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Document current base services https://review.openstack.org/430965 | 14:44 |
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| jordanP | lol https://github.com/mikem23/keepalive-race | 15:04 |
| jordanP | not sure if it's what we are seeing, but we are not alone with ('Connection aborted.', BadStatusLine("''",)) | 15:04 |
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| zzelle | bnemec, hi | 16:42 |
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| bnemec | zzelle: Hi | 16:44 |
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| zzelle | bnemec, i am looking for someone who has a good understand of eventlet | 16:45 |
| zzelle | according to https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/eventlet-best-practices.html, it seems you have :) | 16:45 |
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| bnemec | zzelle: Gotta warn you, my eventlet knowledge is pretty rusty. | 16:46 |
| zzelle | bnemec, you have eventlet knowledge so you master me :) | 16:47 |
| zzelle | bnemec, i am a bit surprised to see such import in neutron-fwaas: | 16:48 |
| zzelle | bnemec, https://github.com/openstack/neutron-fwaas/blob/master/neutron_fwaas/privileged/netlink_lib.py#L56-L57 | 16:48 |
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| zzelle | bnemec, is it normal that we import c lib in python with eventlet? | 16:49 |
| zzelle | bnemec, even more when nfct seems to interact with as file descriptor | 16:50 |
| kashyap | melwitt: Hi there, despite having 'placement-api' in my local.conf, I still see the failure: "No hosts found to map to cell, exiting." | 16:52 |
| kashyap | Am I doing something wrong? | 16:52 |
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| melwitt | kashyap: what is the context? you are running devstack? | 16:54 |
| kashyap | melwitt: Yeah | 16:54 |
| kashyap | (Should've said it out loud.) | 16:54 |
| melwitt | that error means it (the cell setup) didn't find any compute node records, so it sounds like your n-cpu service didn't start up correctly | 16:56 |
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| bnemec | zzelle: TBH, I'm not sure. I believe the C extensions had something to do with mysqldb being problematic with eventlet, but I don't know details on that. | 16:57 |
| bnemec | zzelle: If I had to speculate, I would say that it's probably an issue if the C code deals with any locks underneath eventlet. | 16:58 |
| bnemec | I don't know if that's the case here. | 16:58 |
| zzelle | bnemec, do you who can help me on this topic? | 16:58 |
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| zzelle | bnemec, haygo should be able to help us but he seems diffcult to reach over IRC | 16:59 |
| bnemec | zzelle: harlowja did some investigation into bad eventlet interactions too, but he doesn't appear to be around right now. | 17:00 |
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| kashyap | melwitt: Thanks, anything actionable I can do? Sorry, didn't see the message | 17:00 |
| mugsie | from what I can remember, C extentions will work, but will not do greenthreads right (aka, the thread will block while the I/O happens in C, and move on to another green thread like eventlet would) | 17:00 |
| melwitt | kashyap: and you said in your local.conf you have "enable_service placement-api" ? | 17:00 |
| bnemec | zzelle: Or talk to mugsie. :-) | 17:00 |
| kashyap | melwitt: Yeah: ENABLED_SERVICES=g-api,g-reg,key,c-api,c-bak,c-sch,c-vol,n-api,n-cpu,n-sch,n-cond,placement-api,mysql,rabbit,dstat,quantum,q-svc,q-agt,q-dhcp,q-l3,q-meta | 17:00 |
| melwitt | kashyap: is the screen session running? can you see what it says for n-cpu? | 17:01 |
| mugsie | so, in some small areas it can be OK. but for the DB driver, having blocking I/O would be a big bottleneck | 17:01 |
| kashyap | melwitt: Yeah, just looking there | 17:01 |
| zzelle | bnemec, thanks, mugsie, it's also my understand | 17:01 |
| kashyap | melwitt: You are right: n-cpu is not running, the error is: | 17:02 |
| zzelle | mugsie, according to the code it seems the C code interacts with a file descriptor or socket so it implies blocking I/O? | 17:02 |
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| kashyap | melwitt: http://paste.openstack.org/show/598437/ | 17:02 |
| mugsie | zzelle: yeah looks like it | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | but, if it causes an overall speedup, that could be OK | 17:02 |
| kashyap | melwitt: But the placement API service itself is running | 17:03 |
| melwitt | kashyap: hm, it says failed to connect to libvirt | 17:04 |
| kashyap | $ systemctl status libvirtd | 17:04 |
| kashyap | ● libvirtd.service - Virtualization daemon | 17:04 |
| kashyap | Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) | 17:04 |
| kashyap | Active: active (running) since Fri 2017-02-10 08:55:01 EST; 3h 9min ago | 17:04 |
| kashyap | melwitt: At least libvirt daemon is running | 17:04 |
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| kashyap | melwitt: Disregard me if you're in the middle of something, it's not super urgent. /me also needs to run to the grocery before it's closed.) | 17:05 |
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| melwitt | kashyap: okay. yeah, I'm not sure what's going on there if it's not able to connect to libvirt | 17:06 |
| mugsie | zzelle: looks like the commit remove a call to the shell, which might have improved perfomace, but without the background, I am not sure I can give an opinion | 17:06 |
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| kashyap | Yep, I'll investigate tonight or Mon. | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | zzelle: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_8G7NNXC7KBWoImXbfpvkQNcH2NsWQtSo7u3Uj9x6Rk/edit#gid=0 claims the patch uses 0.2% of the time the old python way did | 17:09 |
| mugsie | so, blocking I/O might be fine then | 17:09 |
| zzelle | mugsie, imo, it proves nothing | 17:10 |
| zzelle | mugsie, it's faster BUT what if something happens concurrently | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | sure - you will use another one of your workers | 17:12 |
| mugsie | and, afaik eventlets wsgi server will hold the connection until a worker is availible | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | xgerman merged it - I would ask him and see did they consider it | 17:17 |
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| trevormc | hi ildikov | 19:50 |
| ildikov | trevormc: hi | 19:51 |
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| trevormc | sorry I missed last weeks meeting | 19:51 |
| trevormc | I was curious about if the training guides had anything about creating something similar to this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories#User_Story_Workflow | 19:52 |
| trevormc | and if we were interested in adding something to cover something to this extent | 19:52 |
| ildikov | trevormc: you mean like a developer workflow? | 19:52 |
| trevormc | well there's the contributor's commit workflow | 19:53 |
| trevormc | but yeah this is more focused on specs | 19:53 |
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| ildikov | trevormc: from pure training perspective I would say we are shooting for interaction and exercises for now | 20:06 |
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| trevormc | ildikov: thanks for the info! | 20:07 |
| ildikov | trevormc: although I think it's useful to look into your idea as well in general | 20:08 |
| ildikov | trevormc: I heard plans that connect to this | 20:08 |
| ildikov | trevormc: I will try to find out more and getting back to you | 20:08 |
| trevormc | yeah absolutely, I can put some effort into it if you'd like. Carol I think had some work with it | 20:08 |
| ildikov | trevormc: does it sound ok? | 20:08 |
| trevormc | ildikov: yes and thank you | 20:09 |
| ildikov | trevormc: great | 20:09 |
| ildikov | trevormc: thanks for bringing this up! | 20:09 |
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| ildikov | trevormc: this is just an area that can always be improved further | 20:10 |
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| trevormc | ildikov: definitely or indefinitely I should say :) | 20:11 |
| ildikov | trevormc: :) | 20:11 |
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