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| larsks | briancurtin: when you're next around, I would appreciate your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437781/. This starts exposing some role assignment methods in openstack.identity. | 03:53 |
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| sdague | any keystone folks around, trying to understand a 404 that's being gotten when a 403 was expected - https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/identity/v3/index.html?expanded=show-project-details-detail#show-project-details | 14:26 |
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| breton | sdague: how can i help you? | 15:43 |
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| notmorgan | sdague: good question | 15:46 |
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| notmorgan | sdague: typically that would imply the project-id isn't found but you have access to get the project | 15:46 |
| notmorgan | sdague: so non-existant project? | 15:47 |
| sdague | notmorgan: ok, we were told differently | 15:47 |
| sdague | notmorgan: that appears to be the main concern | 15:47 |
| notmorgan | sdague: ahhh sorry about that. yeah .get_project should return a 404 if the project doesn't exist but you have access to the api | 15:47 |
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| notmorgan | s/.get_project/get_project api/ | 15:47 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/6d87d1d06162a973b22720b58686b31ff2d0db3d/nova/api/openstack/identity.py#L46-L58 | 15:47 |
| sdague | ok, so that means it's *not* possible to verify a project does not exist | 15:48 |
| sdague | because you can't distinguish between I don't have permission and it's no there | 15:48 |
| notmorgan | your code looks correct | 15:48 |
| sdague | notmorgan: it's not though | 15:48 |
| notmorgan | a 403 is I don't have permission to use that api, 404 means the project doesn't exist | 15:48 |
| sdague | because you will never get the 403 | 15:48 |
| notmorgan | oh wait | 15:48 |
| notmorgan | ohhhh | 15:49 |
| sdague | ok, let me come over to keystone | 15:49 |
| notmorgan | yeah i see the issue | 15:49 |
| notmorgan | hm. | 15:49 |
| notmorgan | easier to talk this through here vs over irc for sure. i think you're right. we have an odd policy bit there. | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: move the UX team to legacy status https://review.openstack.org/437957 | 16:02 |
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| sdague | notmorgan: I think https://review.openstack.org/437975 should expose some of this | 16:28 |
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| notmorgan | ok | 16:28 |
| notmorgan | looking | 16:28 |
| notmorgan | sdague: that looks sane to me | 16:30 |
| notmorgan | sdague: lets see what results we get | 16:30 |
| sdague | yeh | 16:30 |
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| notmorgan | sdague: oooh hm. so i think we might have some data leak here | 16:30 |
| notmorgan | let me come over to your room. | 16:31 |
| sdague | I can come back | 16:31 |
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| mordred | sdague, notmorgan: fwiw, in the api discovery session on monday we talked about the different formats - I put up scripts to look at those here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431720 in the occ repo | 16:52 |
| mordred | (I forgot to mention those in the room) | 16:52 |
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| ihrachys | sdague: may I ask you to get this going in for neutron gate sake? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437802/ | 16:55 |
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| francisca | Is it possible to actually see a Jenkins job overview? jenkins01.openstack.org doesn't resolve anymore for example. | 22:02 |
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| clarkb | francisca: we dont use jenkins anymore. what info are you looking for? | 22:03 |
| francisca | clarkb: in that case, I would like to know what you are using. | 22:04 |
| clarkb | francisca: we are running zuul with the ansible job launcher | 22:04 |
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| clarkb | francisca: its a halfway point between jenkins and zuulv3 so ee dont really support it but that is what we use | 22:05 |
| francisca | clarkb: is this a distributed shared state job queue? | 22:05 |
| clarkb | the scheduler isnt distributed but the workers are | 22:05 |
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| francisca | clarkb: so, how does an upgrade work of the scheduler? | 22:06 |
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| francisca | clarkb: it just means that all the workers have to idle during that period? | 22:06 |
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| clarkb | we save queue state, restart, restore queue state | 22:07 |
| clarkb | the workers dont need to be idle we just drop any running tests | 22:07 |
| francisca | clarkb: ok, and so what exactly do you run now then? Since you called it a halfway point between jenkins and zuulv3. | 22:08 |
| clarkb | they get restarted when we restore the queue so its fine | 22:08 |
| clarkb | zuul with the ansible launcher. its zuul v2.5 | 22:08 |
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| francisca | clarkb: what uptime have you been able to achieve with this setup? | 22:09 |
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| francisca | clarkb: i.e. how many 9s? | 22:09 |
| clarkb | I dunno we dont track it too closely. its far better than jenkins was | 22:09 |
| clarkb | which us why there is a big push to zuulv3 at which point we can support other similar setups | 22:10 |
| francisca | It's zuul the netflix thing? | 22:10 |
| francisca | I had never heard of zuul before. | 22:10 |
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| clarkb | no | 22:10 |
| clarkb | our zuul predates their zuul its zuul the openstaxk thing | 22:10 |
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| clarkb | we've run it for years with jenkins and half a year ago or so stopped using jenkins | 22:11 |
| francisca | Do the two zuuls do the same thing? | 22:12 |
| francisca | Is one "better" assuming no legacy? | 22:12 |
| clarkb | no they are completely different | 22:12 |
| clarkb | one is for load balancing http connections the other manages CI | 22:13 |
| francisca | clarkb: Have you guys also looked at dkron? | 22:14 |
| francisca | clarkb: or k8s for that matter? | 22:14 |
| clarkb | no those solve a different problem | 22:14 |
| clarkb | you can use zuul with k8s | 22:14 |
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| clarkb | zuul is an event based project gating system. it can run its jobs on VMs or baremtal or containers. however you present compute to it | 22:15 |
| francisca | clarkb: high available, dependable DAG job execution is what I am interested in. | 22:15 |
| francisca | clarkb: but k8s doesn't do this yet and dkron is quite limited. | 22:16 |
| clarkb | well jenkins isnt that either... | 22:16 |
| francisca | clarkb: (and Jenkins is not dependable.) | 22:16 |
| clarkb | docs are at https://docs.openstack.org/infra/zuul/ | 22:17 |
| francisca | clarkb: but zuul also cannot be used for that? | 22:17 |
| clarkb | and https://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/zuulv3.html is the plan for version 3 which is closer to ehat you want | 22:18 |
| francisca | clarkb: I am a bit surprised that there is nothing open-source which does this, since Google has been doing this for years. | 22:18 |
| clarkb | zuul is a project gating system | 22:18 |
| clarkb | which can have the properties ypu want but v2 doesnt currently | 22:18 |
| francisca | Chronos also sort of works in theory, but it looks a bit iffy. | 22:19 |
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| francisca | clarkb: thanks for your comments. Quite interesting. | 22:25 |
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| clayg | clarkb: mtreinish: totally got a swift bug out of this deal - thank you guys - i'll keep on it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1667833 | 22:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667833 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "func tests must not assert accept-ranges on 304" [Undecided,New] | 22:55 |
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